Indeed. As a teacher all I find so hard to explain and put into words the pride (the good sense of it) I feel when my former students achieve their goals. I´m not happy for me, but purely for them.
ugh yess! But I do think Never crossing paths again + beth finding out he passed away (but always kept track of her achievements) gave a bigger payoff when she finally beat Borgov
When my father died I was only 11 and a half years old... I didn't even shed a single tear.....now my heart cries for him everytime. At that age understanding that we lost someone forever is difficult.
It is understandable she not wanting to come back to the orphanage as most kids do not have many happy memorys from such a place. But seeing that board really sparked the few happy memorys that she hade to life from that place and the regret instantly hits her hard now when it´s to late.
I keep wondering that during her first photoshoot at home, her mentioned Mr. Shaibel taught her how to play chess. That shows she did miss him, but never once visited him until now.
mhm. Mr Shaibel showed her a door to a whole world and devotedly followed her exploits in that world until he died, a stoic man who was so proud of Beth's achievements.
that's what I was thinking as well. I think it was the bigger picture of seeing her develop rather than being paid back the money. Of course the principle of paying someone back is there but I believe Mr. Shaibel didn't mind too much.
Not entirely sure if Shaibel would have felt insulted if Beth sent him the money after the tournament she won. The money wasn't the important part. The fact that Shaibel sent her the money with no hesitation because he fully believed in her ability is what the money was saying when sent to her. If she sent it back after winning it's still a victory for both of them and is a contract fulfilled. If Shaibel hadn't kept up with her chess career sending the money back would have been a sign that she had succeeded at the tournament too.
@@VejmR and also because she thought that he didn't care that he was a mean old man. She didnt even expect him to give her the money. And now she has to go on without paying him back the money or in a way never see him again.
They were truly father and daughter, complete with awkward family photo (brilliant payoff from when it was first taken early in the series and just seemed at the time as a funny awkward moment). I liked that she took it with her from that basement. She may never have paid him the $10, but he wouldn’t have cared. Knowing his student went on to become a champion must have brought him so much pride as a lover of the game.
I think she cried inconsolably because she just realised how she is making a mess of Mr. Shaibel's legacy with all her drinking. The revelation that Mr. Shaibel was rooting for her silently made her realise, her success is not just her own business... She had responsibility towards others who helped her. She cleaned up her act immediately after this.
Mr Shaibel introduced her to drinking -- remember? Plus there is the picture of the two of them on the bulletin board. Mr Shaibel looks like a stricken man -- by what, who knows. But stricken nonetheless. And yet, he changes her life (but was unable to change his?). There is an air of tragedy about it all -- and then throw in her neglect of him and you gotta a very sad girl.
Can you imagine being in Beth's shoes at that moment. Walking down into that basement, sitting down in your former teacher's chair, probably reminiscing all the games played opposite of that chair, and then looking towards the wall and unexpectedly seeing all your accomplishments pinned alongside a picture of the past. Every emotion hitting you at one time. Then realizing this teacher cared more than you ever thought.
The movie left out how she always felt bad that she didn't pay Mr. Shaibel back as she promised in her letter. But this is a wonderful scene, and the first time you really see her facade crack and let her emotions out. As an emotionally abused child she learned to repress her emotions and hide her hurt. For all its sadness, this is a wonderful scene because she's finally letting some of it out.
@@alexnagy4520 it didn't leave out anything, she didn't have the correct emotions, her mother sheltered her and could not raise a child... She killed herself so that her child could have a chance at a better life than being poor and abandoned by her father, she could not provide the emotional support of support of any kind to Beth, this changed Beth to be extremely unemotional and naive about love... In the end she found all of that but it came at a price ... However she did overcome all that by having this breakdown and ditching the drugs and gaining back her friends she lost along the way
I was thinking the exact same thing. It was never about the money. I believe he was proud she made something of herself. The fact that he played a small part in her finding that success is a reward in itself
Completely agreed! Bittersweet magic. There’s a moment in ReadyPlayer One at the very end when he holds the egg, sheds a tear and his enemy sees the look in his eyes and doesnt kill him, simply smiles. Or in lala land, the ending. Movie magic eh?
This took many years to come to fruition... Many executives did not care for this series when pitched to them, glad someone had the guts to do it and my god it is perfect
I hád hoped that Beth would have spoken a few words at that funeral. From all the people there, how she knew him and what he ment to her.... starting the story with: ' ten dollars'... Then reciting how she asked him for those ten dollars to enter her fírst real chesstourney... how Mr Shaibel was the man who taught her éverything about chess, and saw something in her. How the Chessworld actually got a hold of her, after that first tourney that Mr Shaibel 'borrowed' her the fee for, and what a brilliant mentor was hidden in that 'unknown concierge' of that orphanage.
This scene is absolutely beautiful. I got high hopes she’d see him again. Then he died. She had already been on a self destructive spiral then hears her mentor and dear friend passed away. Owing him $10. Never once seeming like she mentioned him or had any gratitude to his teaching of her. She sees that he thought of her as his pride. And realizes she was throwing it all away. The picture was where I sobbed. Just beautiful.
@Steven I felt bad, ik he didn't care whether she mentioned him or not but I feel like if he saw her say something about him in an interview it would've made him happy :(
This show had so many great moments and it was really good at subverting expectations. But this moment is a stand alone moment. It is as close to a perfect moment caught on film as you can get. You know when she goes down there she will find something , many predict it will be their old chess board. And you expect whatever it is to be some big reveal and big dramatic moment, but they instead have a slow reveal they let Beth explore they let her feel, she doesn't break down right away. And when she finds that picture Beth and the show give us the audience a few moments to catch up with her emotionally. So that when she does break down in the car our minds have raced for those few moments, our minds have thought about this proud man who loved this young girl as his own. This moment is everything. On top of how they played the emotions. It's such a beautiful scene, the lighting the camera just beautiful.
When beth went to the funeral she thought "oh I owed him 10 dollars", but when she went to the basement she thought"I owed him my career and my life", this is arguably the best mini series that I have ever watched, really great cast and great writing
This moment in the series wrecked me...I lost it the second you see the collage of newspapers articles and photos...he followed her journey the whole time.
This is a beautiful scene. It got me teared up seeing how Mr. Shaibel had been keeping news, articles, and pictures of Beth as she clawed her way up in the chess game and became famous.
This series is the perfect example that when even an average story is directed perfectly the result is awesome. The fact that she lets go and cries when she is at the safety of her friend's company and not before is what makes this scene perfect for me.
I knew right away that this was my favorite scene in the series as I couldn’t keep myself from tearing up. The final episode was amazing in general. I absolutely loved this show so much and really hope in some way they can make a season 2.
To this day, still the only scene in TV that has ever genuinely made me cry. Others make my eyes watery and I feel like crying, but I don’t genuinely start doing it. This scene was just something else, I wasn’t ready for it at all when I saw it the first time
This was one of the beautiful scenes i have ever seen. Mr. Shaibel didn’t care for the money, he cared for her, supported her all the way because he saw potential. He believed in her. And Beth did actually thanked Mr. Shaibel through the statement she made in Moscow that a janitor from the basement taught her chess...she wanted the world to know that Mr. Shaibel is as brilliant as USSR grandmasters and that she is not Beth Harmon, the World Chess Champion without the Mr. Shaibel. She is forever grateful to Mr.Shaibel and him in return would be forever proud of her.
Very moving scene. There are many things in life that you get only one chance to get right. If you don't take it, there are no second chances. All you have is regret. How you deal with that is what decides the rest of your life.
I watched this too many times and I just gotta ask: did anyone else felt the most horrible pain in the moment, when the chorals transpired into the violin? The music was a masterpiece in this series, but this exact moment ( around 0:56 ) ... it’s actually painful
A fitting alternative ending could have been: Beth returning with Borgov's King piece (that he gave her after his defeat) and placing it on top of a ten dollar bill at Mr. Shaebel's Tombstone.
I cried so hard when I watched this scene and even played it back, it's just so touching and heartbreaking she didn't get a chance to visit him when he was still alive. And that she realized, the importance of her talents, and the one who first helped her to show it to the world. demn
When I first saw this scene I was fully convinced he had bought tickets to watch her in moscow and bawled. I know that's not what happened but the.idea made me cry as much I'd in it's intention form
it’s too good to met the good teacher in the limited lifetime. At least, her new mother and Shaibel encouraged Beth to live her life confidently and bravely.
a very beautiful scene. Sometimes we forget where we come from being busy going forward. And it is also the right thing. But then, suddenly, something happens taking us back into the memories to realize how far we got. Also, seemingly small acts and conversation can lead to very big things.
So powerful. The Nostalgia portrayed in this scene is incredible. Going back the the very beginning of the journey is powerful in itself. Along with seeing her mentor in a way she didn’t until he was gone. And seeing it as an adult, how much he cared and followed her and impacted without her knowing.she is literally in her past looking at The reasons she is who she is. I have seen something like this done very few times in movies and tv. And In a short series They make the viewer feel like they went all these years with Harmon. Brilliant writing and directing. They are marvels.
I love this scene for all the emotional weight it has but also the whole butterfly effect theory. Who would’ve thought teaching a nosey and bad tempered child chess who basically spawn the greatest player of the time. You can also feel her shame almost like she lost her way and never really paid respect to the man who set her on the path. Didn’t matter to him though. He was so proud of her and she became what he knew she could be. Best Netflix series hands down!
@@tachibanarui2572 Sure! It's well over 90% true to the novel. More like 95%. Having read the book multiple times, I *was* acutely aware of the small (make that *very* small) differences. Okay, it's a common refrain in my household for me to say, "In the book..." when pointing out things that differ in movies. I never felt all that motivated to do that with THE QUEEN'S GAMBIT, it was that close. However, there were some *things* which were notably changed/added, but I will limit my comments to what you asked about...The Ending. In the book... 1) There was no American CIA goon sent with Beth. 2) When she defeated Borgov, he signaled his resignation by standing up, and extended his hand holding the King: "Take it." 3) There was a banquet afterwards that Beth attended, with lots of Press, but she gravitated to the Old Lion Ex-champ, who shared a moment with her, "This...THIS isn't chess." 4) She left...but asked the driver to pull over near a park, one lined with people playing chess along the sidewalk. She got out, and pulled her coat closer, putting her hands in her pocket...feeling the King piece that Borgov had given her. *It filled her with warmth.* She saw an old man sitting alone before a board, one all set up for play. She sat down across from him, he looked at her quizzically. *He didn't recognize her.* In her best Russian, she asked, "Would you like play chess?" And now I'm in tears. Please, read the book, you'll love it!
He didn't teach her to play because he thought she would be great. He taught her because she was capable of learning. Great men plant a seed, knowing they will never see the tree grown.
Here's my statement: she cries because her real mother's dead, her adopt mother, the dead of shaibel and her bad behavior. Her cropped up emotions came lose in this scene. The character is set as a damaged girl because she saw her real mother kill herself. That made her cool and hard with little emotion left.
I can't remember the last time I cried as much while watching a tv show than during this scene. Such a bittersweet moment seeing how much Mr Scheibel loved Beth
I loved that following this moment, when being interviewed in Moscow she made a point to immortalise Mr Shaibel in the press as the man who taught her to play chess, so that he would be remembered.
Young people can mean so much to older people. The young are all wrapped up in their little lives and it doesn't occur to them that the older people have lives too. To the young people they tend to take it for granted that the older people will always be there - because the older people always were there when they were children. Until ... the older person dies and the younger person is always surprised that that could happen - and it's then - after it's to late, that they realize how much the older person meant to them. I'm certain that Beth always intended to pay him back the $10 she owed him. She was just so busy with her how life, it just never crossed her mind that he was going to die before she got around to it. .
I suspect she never realized he cared that much. He was caring but very reserved and didn't know how to express his affection. When she got adopted and left, she tried waving at him from the car and he didn't reciprocate, which she probably interpeted as indifference. That, and the fact that she likely had trauma associated with the orphanage.
