Bethel and Bill Johnson’s Bridge to the New Age and Spiritual Fakery. 

“This is what the Lord of armies says: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who are prophesying to you. They are leading you into futility; They tell a vision of their own imagination, Not from the mouth of the Lord.” ‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭23‬:‭16‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

By the grace of God, I was pulled out of this movement. It completely distorts the Word. It's insane. I am genuinely grieved by my error and gullibility falling for this for even a minute. Mike is right on when he says we are prone to stray. God woke me up and pulled me out. I am so thankful for His mercy!

Thank you for this!!!! I was a psychic medium, and I “opened up my gifts” while trying to develop psychic abilities….while praying to Jesus. (Sooo much more to this story as you can imagine) The devil creeped in, in disguise and took over… I developed extremely accurate psychic abilities, I later had a “vision” (it was a very scary astral projection experience) that a false version of “Jesus” told me to help people with my “gifts” and not to be scared. It led me down a dark path that led a couple thousand people astray more. 💔 finally in June 2021 the Lord thankfully saved me and delivered me of my abilities in prayer when I realized the truth and begged him to take my “gifts” away. It was like in acts 18…a dark force left me I could see with my eyes and my abilities were gone forever. My point is…you CAN open yourself to demonic possession by messing with this stuff if you are not born again and do not have discernment!!!!! The new age is a black hole, if you dabble in it you will fall in…the only thing that can get you out is repentance and faith in the Lord Jesus.

My wife and I left the Bethel movement because of the New Age teaching I was hearing and its implications. When this book came out I read it. It was shocking to me and my wife, especially the authors I knew personally. I immediately took this book and other publications from Bethel and tossed them in the garbage. I also cancelled a Bethel seminar, in which I was a key note speaker.

After listening to Bethel teachings for 15 plus years, I am so thankful that at last I am free. Good for you, Pastor Mike

Great video, Mike. Thanks so much for taking the time to read and review these works!

Im from Norway too, and I left my previous church because they started on a course based on Bill Johnson's books.. I used to be in new age so I reacted and said that it wasn't good, but no one listened to me.. so the same people getting me out of new age telling me all the dangers, suddenly was learning how to do the same stuff themselves.. I just tried a new church, and had a good time, untill the pastor said something about Bethel and his books, and how much good that is coming from them.. this has really annoied me, and I thought that I might be over reacting and been thinking about this the last couple of days, and then suddenly this came up ❤

In December 2017 my Southern California town was in the path of what at the time was California's worst wildfire ever - the "Thomas Fire". I prayed for God to intercede as a 50-foot wall of flames the length of our town quickly descended toward our home - and with it, our downtown area. My wife and I packed everything we could fit into our car, grabbed our kitten, and sat in the car watching our neighbors also prepare to evacuate. When the wall of flames reached two blocks from us, we drove toward the ocean - and safety. It was midnight. As we later learned, shortly after we evacuated, the winds suddenly changed direction, pushing the fire through the hills and fields - sparing our home and downtown. Could other Christians have commanded the winds and the fire? I don't know. It's possible - but that kind of individual power (or the belief in it) would likely give people the glory, rather than God. In my understanding, God heard our prayers, and supernaturally shifted the winds. In the natural, our home and our entire town was "toast", so I credit God in His sovereignty for keeping losses to a minimum. Some of our Christian friends DID lose their homes and all their belongings - but the devastation could've been so much worse. Do I credit God for the outcome? Absolutely. Do I understand why some homes were destroyed and not others? Not in a million years. That's where trusting in the Lord's ways comes into play. He is God - and we are not.

As an Australian, I am really appreciating being introduced to the technical term "Woo Woo Science"

Pastor Mike - please know that the hours and hours of time you must have put into this video are deeply appreciated. God has given you a gift of communicating truths of Biblical theology at a kitchen table level. Thank you for being a blessing to so many.

I began my adult Christian walk in a church heavily influenced by bethel. Strange things began to happen that I knew just weren’t right. I began questioning things and was told by leaders that “we cannot question someone’s experience with the Holy Spirit” when I asked how we knew it was the Holy Spirit they really had no good answer . Something along the lines of “is God not big enough to capture you imagination “ so really nothing was allowed to be questioned because everything was considered to be the Holy Spirit and to question it would be wrong. I left that church and got back into being an alcoholic. Thankfully God restored me again , fully recovered me from 15 years of alcoholism and has brought my heart to a place of desiring his true word and his true works! I feel so grieved for my brothers that are still inside in this church … recently I’ve shown them why their wrong and they told me “Jesus is bigger than a book” I have no words

Thank you Pastor Mike for the video. I already involved with NAR and Bethel influenced church for 10 years in Indonesia. I was in the prayer department in that church, they taught us some teaching based on this book. In early 2020 during the first wave of pandemic, i started to felt something is wrong with the teaching and i left the department. For the last 3 years i'm studying from many sermons, books and learning how to read the bible with the right context. and that made rethink, reconsider about that church teaching. I know there're some errors about the teaching but i can't sure. Then i found this channel and this video. Your explanations answered my questions, it's like God makes me find the missing pieces through your explanations. God bless you, Pastor Mike!

"Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;" - 2 Corinthians 10:5 KJV As someone who was set free from New Age by Jesus Christ, and used to meditating and visualising, this particular scripture has been very helpful for me.

Being from Norway, it so hard to find a Bible believing church. So hard in fact that I am so isolated and has been disconnected and isolated from the true church just because I will not compromise on the the word of God. It's so hard.......

This is the most disturbing and hilarious thing I’ve heard in a long time. It reminds me of the 70’s when I was doing acid and looking for spiritual enlightenment. I encountered a spirit I thought was Jesus who was “telling“ me some of the same things this book is teaching. Thank you Pastor Mike for exposing this ridiculous, deceptive and frightening movement.

My brother is a pastor of several churches and he was just invited to Bethel in California. He went, (he's gone for a week) so I am going to send this to him and PRAY! ❤🙏

As an ex-pagan, ex-new agey type myself (now a Biblical Christian) this New Age adulteration of God's word turned my stomach to hear. But I'm really grateful that you took on the task and exposed it for the error and deception it is. Thank you for calling it out, Mike.

Mike, thanks so much for this word of warning. I’m a pastor and I will definitely make good use of this informative and well documented teaching with my worship team and my congregation. You’re a blessing bro.

My son had cancer, we prayed, we anointed him with oil, had elders pray over him, did all the things our faith would have us do to call heaven down and heal our son. This did not happen. He went home June 2020. It makes me sad and angry when people suggest a "lack of faith" had to do with his passing. It was not God's will that he would be healed here on earth. This kind of teaching from Bill Johnson and others is damaging to the Christian faith. I hope and pray that people in this church and others following this unbiblical teaching would repent, additionally I would LOVE to speak with anyone who believes this ...forgive me...crap. Jesus is the goal, He alone has sovereignty and providence over what happens here on earth. I trust Him alone and I thank God one day He will make all things right. -- Keep going Mike

Late to this video but my mother and I enjoyed it, my father REALLY needs to hear it, anyone willing please pray for him anyone who see's this!

I had a coworker when I was 18 who loaned me one of these books and I couldn’t put my finger on it but the whole time I was reading the book I was just like “wait. What?!” And I’m pretty sure it was the Holy Spirit going “that’s heresy Patrick” 😂 I couldn’t finish the book because it was so off

Please pray for my son and his wife. They are fully immersed in the Bethel Church. Pray that God will strip off the blinders and lead them out of heresy. Thanks.

What's even better than the great exposure by Mike is this comment section underneath. All these authentic personal stories that perfectly resonate what Mike is warning us about - that's a home run.

I came out of the New Age years ago and am sensitive to scripture twisting and false teaching. I sincerely appreciate that you share your thoughts and accurately handle the Word because truth nulls every false teaching. Edit: We can use our imagination in a healthy way as we meditate on the Word. We can think on Bible scenes and wonder how the people felt or imagine what it may have been like, but this is meditating on truth.

The creepy part about imagination.... Literally in the Bible it says the battle is in your mind. The mind is the worst thing to rely on. Get the heart right and daily transform and renew your mind.

This is why it is soo important to read the bible and study the word ourselves. I havw run across soo many people that listen to multiple podcast, listen to multiple preachers, but they don't read any of the bible for themselves.

It's hard, but this type of video HAS to be made because lives are at stake. Your analysis here, Mike Winger, is bullet proof. Thank you for stepping up. 👍

I attended a church that had a guest speaker, Kathy Walters. She encouraged us to use our imagination to take trips to heaven, and engaged with angels, and such things. This teaching seemed exciting to me as a baby Christian. But i paid the price: i had a demon enter my body in my sleep one night shortly after the exposure to her teaching. It took years before i was finally delivered from that demon. While it lived in my body i experienced increased pain in my body, mental dullness and confusion, and other symptoms. It made me sick. I praise God for the profound encounter i had with Him by His grace when He delivered me from that demon. I now warn people against these sorts of teachings and practices. They ARE dangerous and you will pay the price for playing around with them.

FYI: Some of us have know this about Bethel and Bill Johnson for decades or since they started to make waves in the christian media. It is the reason many thought you were in error when you first did your review of Bill Johnson by not calling him a heretic.. "The Physics of Heaven" passed through my hands many years ago. It contains so much obvious error, that is seemed anathema. Thanks for your review of it. May God richly bless your ministry.

Pastor Mike. Thank you for the solid Biblical teaching on your channel. Please do not apoligise for lenghty presentations. These deep dives into Scripture are food to the soul. My mother used to say that she loved it when she actually learned something from Bible Studies. By God's grace I am on a continous learning curve through your Bible Studies. Thank you for rightly dividing the Word of God. Robert Fourie, South Africa.

My wife used to go to Jesus Culture and Bethel when she lived in California. She left Christianity for New Age for a while after her prior husband passed from cancer. God moved her to Indiana, she repented of her prior involvement, and slowly started putting her faith back together. She is grateful that God unplugged her but she still knows a few people who teach there.

Thank you for your stellar research and for clarifying your stance on Bethel! I am from Sedona, and yes there are true believers here, To come and listen to the New Age practitioners here and then try to incorporate it into Christian practice is absolutely crazy and dangerous. 🤯

Thank you for speaking so plainly about this. I have been in those prophetic lines. I have been in those circles where people decree and declare things and they don’t occur. It is like a drug because you are always chasing the next anointing, the next mantle, the next level of revelation. When I left, I went through a 2 year detox. It was brutal, but necessary. I left not knowing I was getting course corrected/disciplined. I just left because by faith, I felt The Lord moving us to help our family. And boy did he ever-after he detangled and uprooted so much of my theology. I am so thankful for expository teachings that were a major part of that process.

My husband and I were involved in a Bethel-founded ministry around 15 years ago. It purported to be cutting-edge and radical for Jesus. I became very uncomfortable with the straining after signs and wonders and an absence of preaching the gospel. We were being pressurised to make prophecy the main thing. I began to have warning dreams that there was a spirit of divination at the heart of that particular ministry and we left.

They say- "There is something missing in our (christian) lives that we need to find somewhere else". God's word says- "...His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge of Him... by these... precious and magnificent promises, so that by them you may become partakers of the divine nature...2 Peter 1:3-4. EVERYTHING WE NEED IS FOUND IN THE BIBLE- HIS DIVINE WORD. Woe to those who "...causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble..." Matt 18:6.

oh my gosh! I was a banker, and immediately recognized the error of "studying" the counterfeit to find the authentic. That is SO wrong! Focus on the Lord Jesus and His Spirit will guide us as we study His revealed Word. Thank you, Mike, for this video.

This is what can happen when you accept all kinds of manifestations that cannot be supported by Scripture or Church history. If we cannot clearly show how something is backed by Scripture we have no sure way of saying it is of God. Thanks Mike for doing this video, so important that the Church sees these errors.

I used to be a bank teller, and what Mike is saying here about counterfeit money is so true! We had to learn the look and feel of REAL money in order to recognize the fake. The Holy Bible is the REAL source of true doctrine for us.

i used to be a part of Bethel. I'm currently fighting for my life that Jesus would help me to know I truly belong to Him. I don't want this evil. It terrifies me and confuses me as Bethel was in the middle of my walk with Christ, it makes me wonder if I truly came to know Christ if I was able to be misled. Please pray for me! I don't know what is Jesus and what isn't anymore. All I know is that He is Lord and He died for my sins and rose again and that I want to give Him everything. I am praying He has chosen me.

I've left this movement. Our church, at the time, was part of RAIN (Bill Johnson in leadership). At one conference, at a RAIN church in Minnesota, we were told to go to the graves of our ancestors, because their angels werw waiting at the tomb, bearing gifts that haven't been received, yet, to this family. Grave Sucklng. I remember having CDs from David VanKeuvering (soelling?) We had a house fire and lost everything: pets, books, cds, etc. The refining fire returned me to sound thinking. Thank you for bringing this message to us! We need to return to the Lord Jesus Christ!

Thank you Lord! I just watched your last video on Bethel a couple weeks ago because I was researching their teachings. I came out of the new age trap. I’ve been watching your videos off and on since I first found the Lord four years ago. I first heard what was written in the Bible through your videos before I owned my own bible. I love the way you are always careful to do your research, and that you always test everything against scripture. My heart sunk a little when I heard you say you would fellowship with them. I prayed that the Lord would reveal the truth about Bethel to you and praise God, He was showing you already. I will continue to keep you in my prayers. God bless you Mike! Your ministry holds a special place in my heart. Praise Jesus! 🙌🏽❤️

Thanks for the hard work Mike, truly. I was a new believer, spent over 10 years in charismatic churches and that finally led me to Bethel’s school of worship. I then toured nationally and played with some of the biggest names at Bethel (and other affiliate bands) I’ve now been on a 5 year journey trying to “start over” and begin a foundation for a biblical life of service to Christ. It’s astounding how much influence that teachers of unhealthy doctrine have amassed in our digital age. From an ex-professional “charismatic” touring musician I’d like to say thanks. Your content and work helps me learn/follow the Lord and his word one day at a time. May I one day use my gifts again to build HIS kingdom ❤️

"Their obsession is the counterfeit"... says it all. Thank you Mike. We who believe and will defend the faith all need to be crystal clear on this topic.

About 2 years ago, I posted teachings showing the errors of New Age being taught by Bethel. I received a lot of backlash from Christians rebuking me for exposing these teachings from the book you are sharing from. Thank you so much for your review on this subject. Hopefully, they will repent and leave these New Age teachings.

Matthew 24:24 "For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect."

I'm only 31 minutes into this but I'm completely shocked. This "let's examine the new age to extract the truths" is the exact kind of attitude I used to have. My husband kept telling me I shouldnt have been listening to the stuff I was, but I thought I was strong enough not to be deceived. I ended up denouncing my faith and fully joining new age beliefs. It was by the grace of God that I was delivered through hearing someone's testimony online. I actually felt the "vails" get torn off my eyes. I suddenly saw that everything I had been doing to believed was all from demonic doctrine and deception. I immediately stopped all new age practices and have never looked back. I'm so thankful the Lord delivered me. I now see all the scriptures that warns us from doing such things. This is absolutely crazy to me bc my church just had bill Johnston as a guest speaker and all my friends love him and his books.

Thank you for this. I never had so much fun listening to a serious podcast like this. I can laugh because I used to be like this (not through Bethel but explored a lot of new age teachings & have had some friends and acquaintances who are still into this stuff). When you read it, it all sounds so ridiculous. It's also so sad that people are missing the mark so badly. It is a reminder to pray for these people that I've lost touch with.

I’ve been there. I left. At one prayer meeting my elder told us to close our eyes and imagine while a soft music played. He also told when I confronted him about new apostles and prophets, he told me that I don’t have the Holy Spirit in me. He also had padded so many books endorsed by Bethel in the past. I was blessed when pastors and teacher on line opened my eyes. So thank you and God Bless. By the way I don’t have a physical church but my church but 9n line 🙏🏻🇨🇦

No talk of repentance, sin, salvation or grace. That’s where I question it immediately. But wow, what a crazy and dangerous form of witchcraft and spirituality! Thanks for this video Mike Winger God is not the author of confusion!!

I can’t tel you how incredibly helpful it is that you include your notes. I was feeling sorta panicky because I can’t just sit and listen and take notes from your videos like a seminar but to know that I have all the quotes and Bible references available to me helps me to just really focus on what you say without worrying about recording. So THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!

I’m just watching this now, and so thankful for people like you who call this out. I left my former church because God opened my eyes to the stuff they were teaching. They followed Bethel and Bill Johnson among numerous others from that camp. I cannot believe looking back now that I accepted some of this stuff. It’s insane. And this book is just takes it to an even bigger level! It needs to be called out and people need to be made aware.

I began to be pulled into this movement in the early 2000s in Australia. After a brother warned me i was clearly led to pray "Lord, i dont want to be deceived, please show me if i am". We were outa there within a few months. that pastor abandoned that fellowship, moved to USA to get closer to it all.

I can only imagine how difficult this research was for you to do, Pastor Mike. Thank you. This is necessary for the Body to be aware of.

Thank you so much for making this video. An elder at my previous church loved this book, and responded of any of my objections to it saying that “God just hasn’t opened your mind up enough yet”. I’m very grateful to have access to this video to share with the many people I know who are caught up in this!

Excellent analogy of everything. I am glad you believe in all the miracles and the gifts of the the Holy Spirit. It makes it even better to listen to your discernment on everything they are saying in the book. I was raised Assemblies of God. I actually had to confront a home church that said they read the satanic Bible as well as the Holy Bible, and this would make them more aware of how to fight the enemy. They claimed to have special insights no one else had. Back then God showed me they were actually a New Age church disguising themselves as Christians in a home church setting. I had a good friend that was entangled and deceived in their church. I fasted and prayed and asked God to show me what to do. One word God gave me I remember, was the scripture, “What does light have to do with darkness”. God gave me lots of scriptures and words of wisdom back then. My friend that was entangled still believed they were okay. I told the pastor and my friend on how I didn’t agree with their teachings. I even wrote a letter explaining what God had shown me. The pastor actually excommunicated me from the church. I did all this for the sake of my friend. Finally 2 months later she called me and told me I was right. Praise God! What a crazy time that was. I am glad I went through all of that because it was training on seeking God and not going through the darkness to try to understand the light. No I went straight to God through Jesus and Jesus helped me all the way. Seeking Jesus with your whole heart is what we all need to do whenever we need help. What does light have to do with darkness? Never in the Kingdom of God! Praise His Holy Name!

1:08:54 geology student here: this is the most insane take I’ve heard on geology to date Edit: I think there’s a very important point to think about: the most effective deceptions take objective truths and twist them, which is doubly why we shouldn’t go looking for the truth in the lies. Trying to find those twisted truths (I think) can make us more prone to being deceived. Other false denominations/churches do that slight twisting of truth Edit pt 2: the deception honestly makes me think of the insanity of the oneness pentecostal church I went to with a friend once

Pastor Mike thanks for bringing this to the body of Christ!!!! I pray those that are involved in this would truly come to repentance!!!

Mike, I’ve watched you and loved your channel for a few years now, and your humility and grace in addressing misinterpretation and risky teachings has always been a hallmark of your character that my family and I appreciate. When you come right out and are this blunt about the dangers of such teachings, I know there is a serious issue being addressed. Thank you for your attention and devotion to God’s True Word.

Mike, I grew up reformed baptist. Didn't believe in tongues or drunk in the spirit or hardly any of this stuff. One day i went to hear a missonary at an AOG church. I came in skeptical thought he was false. But i had dreamed the night before something, and his sermon lined up with my dream. In my dream i had walked up to this man and recieved something. So i took this as God was telling me to have him pray for me. I went up after service and asked him to pray for me telling him my story. As he was praying i could not hardly stand up i almost fell over and i felt as if i was drunk stumbling around for a little bit after being prayed for. I went home and for about 2 weeks had so much patience for my 3 kids and even led 2 youngest to Christ. Shared Jesus story with them just felt compelled. I did not speak in tongues and at that time wasnt sure of it still. I did not try to fall or stumble on the contrary i did all i could to hold myself up even the man praying for me did all he could to hold me up. Im a big guy. 350lbs. I know for a fact something happened to me on that day. That was more than my imagination or my expectations. 1 of 2 things happened the Spirit of God moved on me or the Spirit of the devil did. What say you?

Thank you so much for explaining all of this. I was raised in this type of environment where my dad was the preacher. When my daughter was diagnosed with cancer, my dad accused me of failing to heal her because I didn’t have enough belief. When my dad moved out of the country to focus on missions, I attended James River Assembly for 12 years. I continually felt that I was failing my walk with God because I couldn’t attain God’s healing for my daughter. She was in remission, but “plagued”with paralysis on the left side. It was a grueling 12 years. Finally something made me think that God made my daughter exactly the way that he wanted her, and that he chose to allow her to be disabled. I was fighting his will every time that I demanded healing. That changed everything for me. It was the catalyst that caused me to leave that church and opened my eyes to the problems. Now, I have absolute peace in my daughter’s condition. I can see her for the perfection that she is in God’s eyes, and “Your will be done.” is my constant prayer. I never believed that walking with God could be this easy.

Bethel´s influence is all over the place here in Norway, and our young ones are being sent to BSSM by the plenty (one is one too many). I have been sharing my concern about their new age woo woo (fancy the lingo) for over a decade, but often to closed ears. Thanks for your efforts brother! Apreciate it and pray and hope that people watching it has their eyes opened 🙏🏼

I went to a bssm satellite school at my church. They taught all this and said that all this new age stuff was always ours and we are taking it back from the new age.leaders set up booths at the new age events in the community and basically faked being new age to infiltrate the events to pray for people. I always thought it was so bizarre and off since I'd come out of the new age. I did 2 full years of the bssm satellite school, and the whole time, I questioned everything. My pastor never answered me when I'd say I don't think this is for us...there is so much that doesn't make sense..... But They love Bill and Bethel and have been to their leadership conferences and watch Bill all the time and quote him. They refuse to listen to anything negative said about anyone at bethel about Bethel. They gaslight anyone who doesn't agree and they make you out to be religious. I had to stop attending as they then started incorporating the passion translation into the sermons, and I could no longer stand by and allow them to teach my Young adult kids this nonsense. The way bethel works is if you go against them, then they make you out to be the one in the wrong. It's disgusting.

How sad. 😢 I'm new, I came from the new age, witchcraft, tarot, etc. I'm just over a year. I started reading thr Bible, I feel blessed that that's sherry I started, reading the Bible. There are just so many out there Making claims and promises. Offering desperate people miracles and answers that aren't real, biblical. So many are desperate for answers, fora solid foundation, place, belonging, being part of something bigger than themselves. Ans if you can't hear their sound, let me guess; it's all because you're not ready.😢 This is just bad. And mean and using the Lord's name in vain. 😢

Hi Mike. Firstly thanks for all you do and here is another great talk. I too am a charismatic living in the uk and my family and I left our former non denominational charismatic fellowship right around the time of the Lakeland debacle. Main reason was one of our elders was being influenced by the bethel movement. Even then their ideas rang alarm bells with me. And even then they were into some new-age practices. Our elder invited a bethel accredited youth worker into our church. I went into one of her sessions to find her teaching our kids to empty their minds and picture a tv screen and that whatever appeared on that screen was a prophetic image straight from God. I challenged her and she told me I was possessed by a demon of antagonism. And also that I should be prepared to look for God in the same way I eat fish. Swallowing the meat and spitting out the bones!!! Rather like your quote from the book of extracting the precious!! Same old age old new age eh.

Sola Scriptura. This is what happens when you don't believe the Scripture is sufficient.. Sad what is happening especially with the deception. I just want to say thank you Mike for your videos, recently was going through Exodus and your videos on Jesus in the Old Testament has opened my eyes! The way you connect the New Testament back to the Old Testament and vice versa has helped me alot in Exodus! Thank you so much ! Praise God for your ministry through RU-vid!

Thank you for sharing. We have two daughters wrapped up in a branch of Bethal. They have separated themselves from our family. We have 8 children and they speak to no one. I was told as mom I had a demon. Their behavior has shredded our hearts.

Thanks again for another video centered on Bethel and the Johnsons, I have had a few friends over the years attend BSSM and recall the Physics book mentioned was a part of the required reading and wow. Just wow. I only recalled hearing the positives of being there such as the community of people, healings, how people need to be open to Bill Johnson’s great teachings, etc. Never had a full picture of how the New Age infiltrates their beliefs. Also the I volunteered with YWAM in neighboring Chico, CA, the church’s teachings and presence had significant influence on our location and other NorCal locations especially south of Redding. I recall fellow volunteers in my YWAM location and others make reference to their materials ( don’t’ recall the Physics book though,) but some of it did seem to steer towards new age. I would even hear about YWAM folks set up booths at new age festivals and inviting us to join.

wow... I had a friend disappear and jet off to Redding, CA to go to that school. I haven't seen her in a few years... It was crazy, she started raving about this amazing church, quit her job, stopped talking to family and friends... I need to pray for her... I was suspicious of it at first, but I had no idea it was this bad.

This was well done and much needed. Thank you.

Thank you for exposing this dangerous stuff. As a Pentecostal believer, I long for the genuine moving of the Holy Spirit and the activity of the spiritual gifts and balance with scripture. This is not that! Run to God’s word, Rhonda, his presence, and run away from this nonsense.

Thank you for doing this. It was hard to watch as my heart breaks especially for new and vulnerable Christian’s caught up in this. 2Thessalonians 2:10 ‘He will enable him to deceive in all kinds of wicked ways, those headed for destruction because they would not receive the love of the truth’ All the truth. Genesis to revelation. May we hear the warning of the scriptural prophets for ourselves and the church. It wasn’t just for Israel alone but for us. ‘If it’s new, it’s not true. If it’s true, it’s not new’ Keep at it Mike!

I recently went to a Bethel women’s retreat in Indiana, I had no idea the controversy around this church. They made us get into small groups and practice “giving words” to people in the small groups with our eyes closed. The speaker, Connie jones, was there. She had a “prophetess” who would on command give prophetic words to people. Very strange. I won’t be going back and I’m scared to say I did go at all!!!

Excellent teaching and very sound & well balanced Biblically. New Age practices are creeping into Christianity everywhere and it’s sooooo subtle. May God open the eyes of His people to see what they’ve embraced and judge ALL things by God’s Word correctly interpreted. I’m what people would call Pentecostal and used to be a member of a Pentecostal Word of Faith church years ago. It truly became just another form of legalism. It bought death and pain into many born again Christian’s lives (mine included) and to Churches. The Church I was a part of 45 years ago moved to a different state and we didn’t follow. I was told years later it broke up. These were born again Christians that I’m talking about and I’m glad you highlighted in your teaching that Bethel would contain saved Christians! But like us, they have become deceived and follow men/women instead of the Bible. It took me many years to rid myself of the imbalances and error and legalism I learnt. I did learn good lessons too on how to walk by faith which I still carry with me today. Being part of a Church where I live (Victoria Australia) is a scary thing because of New Age, Word of Faith, and worldliness or they just plain dead, has crept into the Churches here. I just stay home these days and listen to teaching like this via the internet and read my Bible. Thanks this was a very informative video on the dangers of Bethel and that book.

Thank you for this video. I have been talking about this as my friends are still influenced by BSSM. People think I’m being extreme and exaggerative with these claims but it’s plain as day when you read the books.

Do we underatand how invaluable men of God, like Pastor Mike, are to us when they are reading all of these books (I just can't) & telling us what's in them & pointing out the snares? How grateful I am for this! ❤❤

Mike, thank you for this video... I live in Brazil and I'm attending a church that is heavily influenced by Bethel. Even the pastor's sister is a psychologist and graduated from Bethel's school, and she has brought a lot of these teachings of prophesying things of the mind in the name of God... I am becoming more and more certain every day that the best thing to do is to look for another church to attend.

Mike, super job. I could see you fighting back the tears at stages, I live and work as a pastor in Norway and most youth churches are going down the bethel route, they desire programs of entertaining Vs enteRtraining.... stayed up until 01.00 to watch this, have tried to warn so many, even close friends reject me and say who am I to judge .......was praying for you this morning and all of us that see this danger. Lets raise the Gospel high.

Oh dear brother. I know this was difficult for you to do. Many years ago I listened to Bill Johnson,etc. Loved him so much. I tried to make excuses for him and others wanting to believe the best or as they say I would “eat the grape and spit out the seed”. However as I saw and heard him inch closer and closer to accepting new age practices I had to shout from the rooftop warnings to all I knew who followed him and others and the music. Music is used as such a tunnel ever seducing the listener to follow “The Pied Piper”. I believe this came into the church along with the Jesus movement long ago that I was also swept up in after my hippie days. I know we all want to be radical for Jesus and hip and cool for Jesus at the same time. But the snare of the enemy is cunning indeed and he has certainly been setting this up for years…. seeking whom he may devour. It was painful for me to toss out books from Bethel and forsake what is being taught there …and admit I had been drawn in for a time but now I constantly sound the alarm. Unfortunately many love their music and continue to listen to the sermons & teachings.

Thank you, Pastor Mike, for bringing this information to us. I see how much work you've put into this, and it is greatly appreciated. Please keep informing people who watch your videos of the false teachers in the Body of Christ in these last days. 2 Peter 2.

There is such worry in my heart as I pray for two of my pastors that at this moment at a healing seminar at Bethel. I have vaguely dug into Bethel before this…but now I am digging in deep. Prayers that discernment of truth hits them and what they are listening to are lies. Our God is a God of order. He never works in chaos; hHe quells chaos. Jesus asked the 4,000+ and 5,000+ to sit in groups before He feeds them. He calls for order; He knows chaos Will ensue if He does not bring order before hand. Where ever there is chaos is not of God. The fire tunnel and what ensues afterwards is nothing but pure chaos.

Thanks Pastor Mike. My family and I were under Bethel's influence for so many years. I believed so many lies back then. We're so thankful that God opened our eyes and showed us His truth!!!

I have family that grew up in a traditional Baptist church. In fact, pretty much most of my family and they have all have all fallen away to the charismatic, word of faith, and new apostolic reformation, belief system, and frankly, my heart is greatly burdened over this. I have family that have gone to the Bethel school of supernatural ministries and have come out and are ordained both husband and wife as pastors who also have their own school of Ministry now. It is heartbreaking to me and I really just do not know what to do. Other than pray. thank you so much for your video, it took a lot of research and investigation on your part to present this information. I covet your prayers for my family. 🙏😢

Please keep doing what you’re doing. You’ve been such a big part of confirming the evil of many things I grew up with that I tried with no result, grew to question with common sense, and then ultimately see as wrong after reading God’s word. I really appreciate you and your work and I’m thanking God for you.

If you reach a million views know half of them was me. I keep falling asleep because your voice is so soothing but I keep replaying it because the way you information is so captivating 😩😭😂😂😂

As someone who was once in these sort of teachings, yes, it does take years and years to unlearn and heal from. I am still suffering the side effects and hyper vigilance of having come out of these teachings in late 2019. It breaks my heart to see and hear so many falling for it.

I also am blessed to have left this movement after God put doubt into my heart and led my family out of this dangerous movement . In part thanks to multiple studies with Mike online and being fed truth my eyes were opened to truth and the importance of knowing the bible. Thank you.

Hi Mike, I am super pragmatic in the way I think and analyse the world around me. I wanna tell you that I love how pragmatic you are, too, in your way of thinking and analysing! Nothing blurry, vague, … it’s all suuuuper clear! Thank you for your work!

Thank you, Mike, for such a clear analysis. 25 years ago I taught a course on the links between neo-charismatics and the New Age. It’s only gotten worse. Back then you had to prove the links by example and argument. Now Bethel is saying the quiet part out loud.

Amen, we are called to warn people of false teaching .. I thank God for you Mike Winger

I, too, was under this type of teaching. All the way in South Africa. As i was walking in nature, sitting on a rock cliff, there, an image of a lion running towards me(imagine narnia lion) from below the cliff I was sitting on jumping up towards me. I was thinking to myself that this was the lion of Judah, what a powerful moment. As this moment was unraveling, as one could expect(very sarcastic), the lion offered me a cigarette. It was at this point that I knew that I was being deceived! Praise God, His faithful love endures forever. He will not let His sheep stray; His faithful love endures forever. I hope this can help someone

I have some family members and friends that are very much influenced by this church/movement. I really feel like we should be praying for this church. Bill his co pastors and all the believers in that church need our prayers. I don’t think they started out this way but as you said they are moving down a path that leaves the doors open to Satan. Sadly this is not the only place this is happening. Thankfully God’s mercy and grace is steadfast and abundant. Thank you for posting this. I’ll be praying for them and their members for the Holy Spirit’s conviction and correction 🙏

Their desire for spiritual movement is more important than the careful handling of The Word of God. WELL SAID Pastor Mike

I left my church community almost 20 years ago because of all these issues. People have real problem and we are called to give them love in the form of food, shelter, cold water and the truthful hope that all things will be made right at the second coming. We aren’t bringing the kingdom without the King. We are preparing hearts and patiently enduring in love. I still haven’t found a church community that feels dedicated to the truth. Even the less frenzied ones seem to have a disconnect when it comes to the truth of suffering. It’s getting dark out there ya’ll. Keep your eyes on Jesus and pray for the genuine fruits of the Holy Spirit to be evident in your life. Do good. Do good. Do good. That is what people need. True Righteous is his name.

Thank you for doing this video. By God’s grace only have I come out of the teaching of Bethel. Praying for others who are still under the spell.😢

The foundational issue, I believe, is the dissatisfaction many Christians feel with their faith journey. We want heaven now, and don't want to suffer either for our testimony, or through the process of sanctification. But God allows us to deeply feel the void in our hearts so that He will become our everything. Instead we run to quick fixes and experiences that ignite our senses and capture our imaginations. Daily obedience to Christ is intentionally mundane because our Lord is growing us in patience, longsuffering, and faithfulness.

wow wow wow. Getting into the passages in Deuteronomy and Paul's letters to the Corinthians in minutes 35-36 or so are blowing me away. This is great exposition and I am GLAD you are looking to the Scriptures to make sense of this. The guys over at Remnant Radio just did a prophetic review of all the 2023 prophecies (given at the beginning of 2023 or just before) to see if they ended up holding up - one of them was that there would be a rising up of Jehu's on social media who were not afraid to speak to charismatics on where they were going astray - because we need that accountability! That was about the only one they were able to say was actually happening and I see this same heart here. Let's take these things seriously because God's house should be PURE! Love your zeal for God's word and His bride. Keep it up.

This is so helpful. Thank you. I know how much time it takes to thoughtfully compare a book to Scripture, and you've done a very thorough job here. I lived in the Bay Area for about 20 years, and in that time I knew lots of people who attended the school of worship at Bethel. Some had really good and positive experiences that led to spiritual growth, but some came out with very strange ideas, usually those who lacked a Biblical foundation through which to examine what they were being taught, the very young. I had a friend who had been and who wanted me to go back with her, but the opportunity wasn't there, and I never felt a big draw to go. I watched your video on Bill Johnson and Bethel that you did some time ago, and I agreed at that time with your assessment. I read the book "When Heaven Invades Earth," and my general assessment was that Bill Johnson is not a Bible scholar and that he often uses Scripture in a very loose way, but I didn't come away from that book feeling very concerned about what was going on at Bethel. In fact, my husband and I visited Bethel during the time I was reading that book. There was a guest speaker. My general impression was of genuine and devoted people mixed in among others who seemed to be there for more social reasons (there are concrete observations that created this impression). But isn't this the state of the Church in general? The guest speaker was right in step with Scripture but after preaching, spiraled off into some territory that was unusual and uncomfortable for me. My husband and I stayed focused on praying and being responsive to God. I'm very hesitant about criticizing the worship styles of others, so even if its weird to me, I will let it be. In the confusing mix of things has been the accusation that Bethel leaders were doing or teaching things that the leaders themselves denied doing or teaching. I have always taken them at their word, but in seeing actual quotes from this book, I can see how one might not teach a certain practice, but the practice could still flow out of this teaching and be accepted and even encouraged. Reading these quotes as you present them grieves me greatly, and I have been praying while watching your video. So important to understand how dangerous the teachings in this book are. So very sad. I am very much on the side of "don't believe everything you hear people saying about a ministry," especially a prominent ministry, but when the leaders endorse books and write chapters to books, we should all pay attention! When they stand up and teach something, we should believe they believe it. It was about 20 years ago that I was at a church that was discussing things like having the staff walk a labyrinth (which they did) and using the Scripture about the freedom to eat foods sacrificed to idols to say we have the freedom to use practices not used in Scripture in our worship if we worship God in doing them. Does this include pagan practices? New Age practices? evidently the leaders at Bethel think so. But then again, isn't the Scripture about the meat offered to idols really about how we might give something up or stay away from something in order to avoid causing an immature believer to stumble? At the very least, it seems that Bethel is treating this particular Biblical teaching very casually.

I have a cousin who pastors a church near me and he has gone into this hook, line and sinker. I left the church because I felt God telling me to get out! You have answered every question I had about the church. I am going to pray for a awakening for him.

Thank you Mike for videos like this. I have a best friend who I believe genuinely gets visions and to an extent, prophecy from God. She received them through two near death experiences and a few specific dreams over the last couple decades. The way Jenny describes her "visions"..... sound nothing like my friend's visions, who was a child when she first saw things that matched up perfectly with scripture when she never knew of those things at the time. She is also INCREDIBLY descerning and doesn't take every single dream as some sort of sign or vision from God, there have only been a select few. She doesn't use these visions to prop herself up, only to encourage very close friends if there's a serious spiritual battle underway. They're kept close to the chest and only shared amongst close friends and family, if at all. It was when she learned from me (in college) that the dreams she had lined up with scripture perfectly, that started her journey into becoming a Christian and putting her faith and trust in Jesus a few years later. Unlike Jenny's "visions" that add things to the gospel, my friend's visions always POINTED to the gospel and affirmed the words and teachings of it. Before that time I'd never considered that people experienced dreams/visions in modern times, but it led me to learn about those sorts of things in scripture. I don't believe that her testimony of these visions/dreams are in order to convince everyone. But their existence have helped me and other friends, as well as her own faith.

This is such a helpful video - it's embarrassing to think that I've participated in these practices without even knowing it. I'm so glad God is opening my eyes to His truth and false prophets. 🙌