Bethesda's Many Scandals 

They brought it down on Steam, and at Gamestop. However, Microsoft and Sony wouldn't let them drop it for PSN. I forget which dev announced this issue before, but they messed up when pricing a map pack. This resulted in the Xbox version being priced higher than the PSN. Microsoft refused to drop it and Sony forced them to increase the PSN price because there must be parity.

HAHA damn I forgot to put that in, it was meant to be in the bit with the interview with Todd!

@@backlogbuddies”we accidentally set the price too high and won’t let you turn it down” Sony chimes in “well if they are selling it for higher we should increase the price too”

Then it wasn’t a joke was it ? It was deliberate.

@@RU-vidcanfuckagoatno can you not read? The joke was supposed to be temporary not permanent. So no it didn’t.

😂

The next one will have 16 times the scandals

4 times the size

Title of your sex tape.

that what she sayed

No kidding. People just walked around naked in that game. They were usually crazy but it was a norm for me to see in that age of gaming.

Yup, I think BattleSpire had nudity as well, and flew by with a teen rating oddly enough.

Oh well, we have BG3 now

i mean you can be an assassin but we draw the line at nudity!

​@@jamesblake5176that's america for you

really adds to the immersion

Amateurs, we don´t need those mods here in Daggerfall and Morrowind...

Tbf there isn't enough racism in vanilla Windhelm

@@AveCruxSpesUnica There isn't any racism in vanilla Windhelm. The people there took in as refugees some of the most xenophobic and militaristic slavers on the face of the planet, that spent hundreds of years subjugating other races. Not only that, but they received and entire quarter of the city. Did people honestly expend everyone there to be 100% friendly to them? Maybe i have a different perspective because i'm from the Balkans, but calling Windhelm racist is insane. Solitude is racist, if anything.

@@999mi999 yeah its because you are a balkaner man lol. your racism is commiting genocide, here in the west our racism is much different. You guys never had racial inequalities because of communism and mostly uniform ethnicities (just shades of white skin people)

At this stage I fully expect TES6and Starfield to have built-in micro-transaction tabs like a phone game each time you enter a store urging you to buy bethesdabucks,

Dj Khaled edition

@@planescaped that already exists in TES5 and FO4. It's called the creation club.

"odd" makes up 75% of Todd's name, what did you expect.

T-odd edition

Wasn't just freebies. ALL mods were free. They were an expression of how much a person loved an IP. Money fucked that relationship right in the ass.

A fool and his money are quickly parted

Why not? Why buy it? It basically doesn''t do anything.

And it's still up.

I can't believe I actually bought that armor.

Agreed

That's how it starts, these publishers watched as people bought it without much fuss and then decided to do it themselves and now we live in a gaming society plagued by the bloody things.

@@Altoryu They indoctrinated an entire generation of kids, and ignorant adults into thinking that micro-transactions are how things work. Games, movies, music, Super Chats, Patreon, Twitch, streaming services, Amazon, FREE RAM, and just about all paywalled content from just about anywhere. "Pay with just a click!" to save your/parent's bank info automatically propaganda making it sound convenient, which is another addiction society now has. Convenience trumps everything. No matter how petty, just a "taste" of annoyance will convince most to just go along with it no matter how many of their own rights, or freedoms they have to sacrifice. Of course it also traps kids, who are by nature far more spontaneous, and unable to think actions through to a more sensible conclusion because they want things NOW. It's way easier to convince a gullible kid to buy 50 Fortnite skins for $1.99 each to get some social clout online than to sell them another $60 game, and make them think nothing of it. Kids are much more susceptible to emotional manipulation too, which a fair amount of the independent creators tend to prey upon, and social clout does as well when they make things like "skins" important to that game's culture. Anytime something in a game is "new", and other friends have it already, kids are just suckers for keeping up with their peers. "Limited" as well...marketing language manipulation isn't just for marketing anymore though. It's for the news to attack the gamers when we don't go along with paying corporations our last dime. Almost every tech, or media platform has implemented some sort of micro-transaction system. So they have a credit card number already to use on all of them, with zero concept of the value of money because it isn't theirs. This has moved into Super chat kind of stuff, Patreon, etc. Certainly, giving money to "creators" is a better thing, and worthwhile, but that is still another huge scam by places like YT raking in such a high percentage to literally do nothing like Valve does.

Modders that doing it for free makes an expansion size DLC, while some retexture have a price tag on it? Doesn't seem fair to me.

40% modders, 30% Bethesda, 30 valve would have been fairer, since we know for a fact that an active community brings in new players to buy the base game and all the expansions. But it is all owned by miscrosoft now and so game pass gets you the whole catalogue anyway.

@@JWalters388 But remember what Gary said in the video? If someone makes a retexture and sells it for $10, it won't sell. People won't buy that nor are people being forced to buy it. Wheras if the expansion sized DLC was sufficient enough to be worth $10, shouldn't they be supported?

@@FraserSouris i think modders should put that work out for free and then hold discussions with the community surrounding their mods on whether they should put a price to it, or set a price from the very beginning and don't charge or publish until it's completely done and free of bugs.

@@kraktjoetv That's not really a good idea. Firstly, if modders put something out for free at first, they can't then change it afterwards. Even if they do, people will then share the pirated files or use the old version. There's also the issue that the modder won't be paid for the duration of the free mod's work and life which is pretty unfair. Secondly, having a discussion with the community is pointless because the community will always say "Keep it free". We have examples of mod makers putting thousands of hours into making a free mod that gets 200,000 downloads but only 2 donations

I never even considered that. They can't legally sell something they don't have the copyright to.

Nobody actually plays with those mods though. All those goofy copyrighted mods are just for redditors to laugh at like "hahah tomas train funny" when in reality none of the successful mods on nexus are copyrighted. They're all either unique IP or stuff like bug fixes/quality of life.

@@Odeon1970 Dang, two really good points in one comment thread. I guess you're right!

@@Odeon1970 Total conversion mods are really popular. Not disagreeing on the meme stuff but warhammer and star wars TCM are very common across many games.

@@anshd927 Ive yet to see a TCM that uses copyrighted material. I'm mostly familiar with SSE though, maybe those were popular with the og Skyrim idk.

"How dare you take away my job that I wasn't planning on doing in the first place?" - Bethesda, probably.

Lol true the whole point of people buying their games is like you said because of the amount of mod support they all have without mod support they probably won’t be as big as they are now.

What bethesda fails to realize in its arrogance is that without mods their games are just shallow mediocrity at best.

The very nature of capitalism means that isn't possible. These companies don't just want *some* of the money, they want *all* of the money. Microtransactions, by their nature, are required to be predatory. Microtransactions only exist if they work, if they work poorly, they get 'optimized' until they work 'as desired' - Sure there may be a dev here or a company there that only charges 0.99c for their 20 hour expansion, but there too will also, ALWAYS be those who will charge $9.99 for a reskinned character model. Once the $9.99 seller makes enough money, they can then make this the norm because they can afford to buy out the majority of their smaller competition (who are smaller because they don't have the money from selling garbage for gold) and then you end up with 3/4 companies who are all in an equilibrium trying to charge as much as possible while delivering as little as possible. By its very nature, if it costs money, then it will have an incentive to make as much money as possible, and to make as much money as possible, you have to disregard the source of that money.

I will say that I do not believe Todd has as much control over the prices as many may think. It reeks of corporate entities taking over.

@@EroPatches Anyone who actually believes it's all Todd is most certainly an immature neckbeard, todd is merely the game director nothing else. It was the Zenimax board of directors who are behind the outrageous pricing.

@@ihatetrainyards4859 have u seen the making of oblivion? todd has no fucking idea how to make a damn game the documentary which he stars in and pretty much directs i couldn't stop watching out of comedy gold. the engine did not support more than one type of skeleton so they turned the human skeleton into the horses. among other many laughable moments in the video. u ask yourself "wow this guys job is to just make levels?" "this guys job is to just make random lore" and their desks are covered in miniature figures. looks like a kids party city rather than a studio.

I pay 10 dollars to your mother then i get something physical too

Cyberpunk was the only game I’ve ever preordered outside of Bethesda game studios games. There was way too much fake information about the game and the trailers were extremely misleading. I know what I’m gonna get with BGS games and don’t care about their problems like bugs because I grew up on games like Fallout new Vegas on PS3 (worst version ever of any game) yet that is still my favorite game of all time. I just am well aware there’s only one company I’m willing to pre order from now because their single player game worlds are literally my bread and butter. That being said it’s absolutely valid to never pre order a game don’t take me wrong

@thomasrial4444 Fallout 76 was a monumentally worse situation than CP2077. Not only did the marketing lie, not only did it release before covid meaning that didn't hinder its development, not only did it launch in a nearly unplayable state, not only was it a multiplayer game with numerous exploits, the entire game and merchandise was actually a scam. In classic Bugthesda fashion, it's still a bug filled mess years after release, but now it's a bug filled mess packed to bursting with microtransactions and a pay to win subscription. 2077 is still a little rough around the edges, but at least CDPR has actually worked on the bugs without relying entirely on free work from modders, and the PL 2.0 update might turn it into the game that was advertised and perhaps even more. Also, personal opinion but the story and characters are far better than anything Todd has put out. Keep in mind, New Vegas, objectively the best Fallout game post Bethesda, wasn't even made by Bethesda, but by Obsidian and much of the team that created the series. Of course, I'll never hold it against anyone for treating CDPR with a lot of skepticism from now on, but to proclaim that CDPR should never be trusted again while mindlessly ignoring the fucking mountains of problems that Shithesda continually builds upon with release after rerelease is a level of doublethink that should mark someone for being a risk to themselves and others. The fact that Bethesda remains one of the more loved devs when they're arguably one of the worst is insane to me. I may keep an eye on Starfield and its modding scene, but I got so burnt out on Fallout 4 and having to spend more time modding it into a game I actually wanted to play.

​@@ivansmirnoff6987lol people still dickride CDPR by comparing to 76? Imagine blaming Cyberpunk's horrible launch on COVID, i guess CDPR lying about the game was also covids fault? Dont even get me started on how pathetic it was on the consoles. Fallout 76 was expected to be a crap game, while Cyberpunk is a singleplayer game with massive hype (hell i remember when people thought CDPR eat bethesda), thats why it was evem more of a disapointment when it launched.

@@scaryclouds1403 imagine thinking that people weren't hyped for 76. Also, imagine thinking that I'm dickriding CDPR because I'm not mindlessly shitting on them for one fuck up that still turned into a great game. 76 is still a buggy microtransaction shop. 2077 is a great game now, and only people who had consoles or shit pcs would continue to think otherwise.

@@ivansmirnoff6987 so now youre lying, 76 was never hyped, sceptical at best, and its was never on Cyberpunk level of hype. And now youre saying its a great game (still dogshit on consoles i bet) after 3 years? It should be great at day 1, not after however years. CDPR created 1 (witcher 3) great game in the sea of mediocrity, and people like you are dickriding it to high heavens.

I'm convinced 76 was Pagliarulo's idea. It has all the tell-tale signs of his work and ideology, and is also terrible, like most things he works on.

Are you saying Zennimax trying to have 2 live service games so they could be bought out isn't znnimax fault?

​@@patrickmcpartland1398Zenimax is Bethesda, Bethesda created Zenimax as a holding company just like Google created Alphabet.

To be honest dude, games have stayed the same price for a very long time despite being larger, requiring more teams and have way more additions than previously despite inflation rising quite significantly. Personally I would rather game prices go up a little bit than have shitty microtransactions peppered through my games. Can't comment on MS and fallout 76 but that game was fucked from the get go and this was before Bethesda was sold to them

76 was ultimately Zenimax/Bethesda's responsibility but if they weren't trying to be bought out I doubt they would have pushed it out as quickly so while it wasn't directly Microsoft's, or any other potential buyer, fault their money bags influenced what we ended up getting since highly monetizable live-services are exactly what big publishers like to see. I hate to sound like a fanboy simp (though I guess I am lol) but people blamed Todd Howard and BGS for 76 when it released but I never got the impression that it was a project they really cared about or wanted. To me it didn't had that "feeling" that BGS games always have. Or maybe I'm just an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about... that's always possible lol.

It isnt overpowered, its a feature 😍

If you see multiple versions of yourself, that's just how it interacts with GER ($650 USD from our store). It's definitely not something we still need to fix and is totally a modder's fault somehow

I think server transfer fees in MMOs should have been one too.

Sony ponies going to do anything possible to keep starfield down lol (I'm 100% joking btw. Nothing he said is invalid and the timing is actually great for views)

Starfield is going to be such a hot mess. Runs on a 20+ year old engine that barely sees any updates because nobody at Bethesda has the talent to do so, 110 dollar price tag for early access, refuses to show any gameplay even at Gamescom. The warning signs are so blatant. It's curious how similar this is to Cyberpunk. I assure you the fanboys will have a rude awakening this Friday.

​@@requiemagent3014honestly i want it to do well if only for the sake of the employees who are probably gonna get fired in fucking droves if it sucks

⁠@@requiemagent3014unlike cyberpunk bethesda bugs are fun, so at least in possible disapointment we will have fun 😩😭🥳

@@iwakeupandboomimarat Ah maybe Microsoft will finally replace them. I have the hope Microsoft takes the Fallout IP and gives it back to Obsidian entertainment. Maybe Starfield is a wake up call to finally shut down Bethesda studios and give the IP's they own to actual competent studios.

It's also worth pointing out that this was Valve's idea. Per their own words.

I was wondering what this look was reminding me off

He looks perfect

Haaaaaaaa

Why would it need it if it has no space, only loading screens.

Well he certainly doesn't have any good strategies.

Eh not so sure. He goes around convincing dumb cavemen to follow him so...

Its true that hes not Jesus, but a Godd /s

But he is Jesus, lies just as much.

A guy I know was trying to convince me that they fixed 76. I was extremely sceptical that such a thing would even be possible, let alone whether Bethesda could do it. Literally a week later, PatricianTV dropped his 76 video and every minute I spent watching it was a minute I spent feeling sorry for this guy at how hard he'd been suckered.

and the TES fandom (or should i say, skyrim fandom) as well

​@@MioAkiyama3686as a TES fan since Arena, well aware of Uriel Septim and Jaggar Tharn, Skyrim was almost the worst of them all. It's like they took the concept and made it for dumb people. (I say almost, because morrowind was a dumpster fire; though I hardly consider it an elder scrolls game, it came out in a weird time for games, and I seems like they made it very lineal, and optimized for console)

@@redneckroy8947you consider skyrim the worst and morrowind a dumpster fire? an is a fan since arena? you not a morrowboomer or daggerfall elder, must be a ARENA ancient then, a rare species among the TES fandom

Can you please be more specific? Because that could mean two things; 1. Acting like dissatisfied consumers with very little actual power and influence who 'bully' the poor, innocent, massively wealthy corporations for hacking out garbage products meant only to siphon as much money as possible? or 2. Revel in being the exact kind of consumers said corporation loves pleasing most, that is to say, incredibly stupid people who will buy anything as long as it can be associated with the brand?

and good that they did becayse every game since morrowind was fun and morrowind wasn't

@miwoj I'm kinda of the opposite opinion. I loved Daggerfall and Morrowind and was okay with Oblivion and bored with Skyrim. To each their own I guess. I don't like games that hold your hand. Skyrim and Oblivion fell into the category.

Interestingly enough, I could never get into Morrowind while the one Elder Scrolls game I will easily put in more hours than all others in the series to this day is Daggerfall. Oblivion was fine and enjoyable but didn't have that "it" that Daggerfall had and Skyrim has always seemed to me as "the game where you put buckets on people's heads lol".

@@abadenoughdude300 i never got into morrowind either. i thought it was because by the time i was the age to enjoy anything properly, WoW had just come out as well as a bunch of other industry defining games but as i got older and more heavy into gaming, morrowind was one of the only games i just couldnt play. no idea why, i just found it so boring and stale. in saying that though anyone who started playing wow in 04, basically just had a hatred for any other game but.

At this point the only game I pre order is Nintendo's Zelda games. Everything else il watch the before you buy-gameranx. Even Nintendo has let us down though for example pokemon: scarlet/violet.🥲

brand new and incredibly in depth take /s

@@hickory654 Would you like to buy the take-armor DLC? Only $5.99.

I looked at your other comments and so based on this it makes sense you were complaining about people making fun of incels.

@@Mooinator3000 I'm an incel because I think that Bethesda produces low quality games? That's a pretty incel take right there. Are you a movie screen brother? Because you be projecting.

@@The13thRonin nah I'm talking about the comment on the gamers rise up video

At least they had a good excuse. They attempted something considered impossible for the time, a few somethings, and it mostly worked. The difference is I can look past jank and confusion if I enjoy the end product and I'm reasonably sure it's the best you could do.

Companies would give out patch discs to stores, or even mail you one if you paid for shipping, if you couldn't use the internet. No joke, I have a patch disc for Guitar Hero Wii and Call of Duty W@W Wii. I also had a patch disk for Quake 2 growing up and a couple other games. I even have a patch disc/replacement for a pre-order OST CD for SMT: Strange Journey on the DS. Which needed its own replacement CD because they forgot a track and told us to deal with it.

Actually though 😭

How does it feel saying that line over and over and not making any difference? You know how many times I've not preordered a game I want and instead listened to someone saying not to? Literally zero. Ah yes yes, but in that case "I'm part of the problem" right? You know how many times I've given a fuck about buying a game I want that doesn't meet someone else's standards? Literally zero.

You can pre-order if you want of course, but it's just good practice to see what reviews are before making a purchase big. It's not like it's 1999 and best buy is going to run out of copies of whatever game if you don't pre-order. Plus think of all the big games that have had buggy borderline unplayable releases in the last 5 years that need months of patches.

​@@AlleyCatNinjato be fair you're not part of the problem, cause you are at least aware of your wrongdoings and that's why you're so defensive, you know you're in the wrong lmao you're not even dumb enough to be part of the problem, that's sad

​@@AlleyCatNinjaI'm so deep and different 😎

He thinks he's a rebel. 🤣 And he thinks mentioning the critizism and then disagreeing is an argument. That's even funnier. @@kokomine578

Why not both? Both is good.

Yet... I hope he gets cancelled for something stupid like stealing a snickers bar. Lelelelelelel

@@daoyang223 He will steal the last choco milk in Australia kek

Sometimes foreshadowing is relatively obvious.

We need dynamic weather systems!

Preach n'wah!

Starfield looks like Fallout 4 meets No Man's Sky so my expectations are low

It ain't no hot take it's the truth

Todd and Pete everyone Todd and Pete.

Very true.

I feel part to blame 16 yr old me bought horse armor I'm sorry guys I'm part of thr problem

The unholy trinity is nearly complete.

You're forgetting Todd's weird refusal to use anything else but his incredibly outdated engine.

yep we all hoping that microsoft can fix this

Gamers.... learning from the past?

I don't understand how anyone has confidence in Bugthesda releasing a non-broken game.

@@lukew6725 no one doubts it'll be broken. Will it be good tho?

​@@nickgotvyak5890the leaks say otherwise lol.

@@pnwTaco i can tell youre a hardcore gamer that's a sick name

Did it though? I'm sure a lot of people didn't preorder it

I heard all the hype drooling and unending fapping going on because of the like 30 second trailer where they showed a ship a walking robot and a desk near a porthole and absolutely no gameplay and people were calling it amazing Then I saw gameplay and thought it looked like any other fps I'm sure lots of people pre-ordered I just have no clue why

Even in this comment section it is all too depressingly obvious why this shit isn't going away :/

Exactly what I was thinking. This game releases TOMORROW. They refuse to show gameplay, the early access edition costs 110 dollar, world's are probably even more empty then your regular Bethesda game. This is Cyberpunk all over again. The red flags here are so blatant and people pre order this overpriced garbage like crazy. It's absolute madness at this point

If you expect any kind of market impact due to your concept of "morality" you're going to be continuously disappointed and tired. People buy stuff they like and enjoy, the "vote with your wallet" spiel is a myth and always has been. Their "scams" will have monetary consequences when they stop providing things people want, you can get frustrated that people want things you think dont hit an quality bar for what "they deserve" but all they deserve is what they knowingly pay for. We have a cynical economic system, if you approach with anything other than cynicism you're going to be perpetually confused and outraged for no good reason. I do not find gaming tiring because I exclusively pay for stuff I know im gonna like or at least will only dislike because of taste. Totally ignore any idea of "industry health" or "the state of gaming" and immediately all discussion about "WAOW! [corporation] prioritized profit over user enjoyment???" immediately becomes as meaningless to you as it rightfully should be. Under the circumstance a corporation tries to scam you regarding something you want, simply steal it, problem solved 100% of the time.

At least give the new DOOMs a chance Those have been excellent, despite the second one being a little platformy

@@whocares9033 I have. Those are produced by Bethesda, not made by them

@@CocoHutzpah that would explain the better quality lol All I know is that the Bethesda logo pops up at the intro hahahaha

Yea people need to stop worshiping modders, it gives too much ego.

Don’t forget to update this comment when the reviews go live

Stuff like that could be a joke internally for the devs too, that's kind of what I think the hot coffee thing was with San Andreas.

@@Flyon86”haha, I fully modelled and textured breasts. Did you find them funny?”

To be serious. Did anyone really pre order starfield?

@@daoyang223Millions definitely

damn man. Makes me sad. @@vjbd2757

.......what are you talking about? The guy who founded Bethesda made ZeniMax which owned Bethesda. Why are you lying here?

Also, the founder was the piece of shit pushing all the micro transactions.

I'd honestly love to hear more about that. I was unaware that happened.

He was one of the people, and he got pushed out

@@blackhatfreak I believe he's talking about Weaver, who founded Bethesda Softworks.

Good idea in theory, but it'd be super inefficient with games that take 40-500 hours to actually play lol. You could just blow through the tutorial/first few levels, but then you'd miss things like the Dark Brotherhood quest. (Not to mention they'd need to have a playable version of the game before even getting it rated)

Well they have to rate like 5000 games per year with not that many employees. So they need to rely on the information they are given. Playing Wii Sports for 15 minutes probably tells you everything you need about the game but if there is a side quest in a 50+ hour RPG there is no way they will ever see it without it being pointed out.

Do you realize how many videogames are released each year? That would never be a viable strategy, there simply isn't enough time/manpower for it.