Better Call Saul 6x12 "Kim betrays Saul with Howard's wife" Season 6 Episode 12 HD "Waterworks" 

I like how Howard’s wife basically got the whole script of BCS

It actually really hit me hard when Kim pointed out there are no surviving witnesses. Besides her and Jimmy, pretty much everyone is dead at this point.

I just realized... Kim mentions Mike in her letter, so if this gets public, kaylee and his mother would know the horrible things that he did...

4:20 She says "Assuming he's still alive". Kim knows Jimmy is alive, so she's not betraying him. In the previous scene she got confirmation from Jimmy that Lalo, Mike, and Gus were all dead. This gave her free reign to clear her conscience and clear Howard's name without threat of death.

On a monopoly board the next stop after "Waterworks" is, GO TO JAIL.

I guess 20 years in the can might be better than 20 years of "YUP! YUP! YUP!"

You gotta love the irony of the fact that the only people trying to clear Howards name is his ex wife who the morning of his murder couldn't have acted colder and the one that pushed to frame him as an uncredited drug addict for giggles

This scene makes me so happy tbh. Howard deserves justice and for his good name to be cleared of the horrible smokescreen that Kim set up at his funeral and this helps start the path to exactly that as she was one of the last 2 confirmed people to see him alive. I'm glad that Kim hasn't leapfrogged the events of Howard's murder in an attempt to use mental gymnastics to avoid admitting her responsibility in his death but is instead doing the right thing, telling the truth and accepting all consequences (including possible prosecution) no matter what comes in stark contrast to Jimmy who still refuses to confront his feelings and instead chooses to put up a front either as Saul Goodman or Gene Takavic and run away from them (literally and figuratively). I'm really glad that there's at least a little bit of a positive to his ending with Cheryl knowing the brutal truth about what happened to him on that fateful night and knowing that he was a good, pure man untouched by drugs to the end. This gives me at least a little bit of MUCH needed closure on the character of Howard Hamlin so that he can rest a bit more peacefully and knowing that he wasn't absolutely screwed over in the end, I appreciate the hell out of it.

This was the most cathartic scene in either show for me. Howard was a good man and what they did to him was so hard to watch. The truth being revealed here honestly made me cry some tears of relief, I got way too invested in this show, lol.

Cheryl is so dumb. She would’ve known what happened to Howard if she just watched the first half of the season.

His wife waited 6 years with this tragedy. Kim telling her this late is still pretty shitty of her but better late than never i guess

Some justice at last for Howard…. Granted it’s not much and his body will never be found but hopefully this will at least clear his name and partially restore his reputation….. and even though Cheryl wasn’t the best wife to him she at least has some closure by knowing that she wasn’t too selfish to be ignorant of his fake drug addiction and that their collapsing marriage was the sole cause of his supposed “suicide”.

Kim facing the music is what I was hoping Jimmy was gonna do. I'm glad she owned up to her role in it though, she's my favorite character in the show along with Jimmy

I wish the police had looked for more evidence about Howard's behaviour. Because when Jimmy drove his car in front of a restaurant, Howard was at a therapy session with his *psychologist*. In those moments, the psychologist was the only witness of Howard's true presence. Perhaps there would have been a chance to set everything clear.

She isn't suing for the money. She's suing because it's the only justice she is going to get. Kim isn't going to fight it

The moment when Howard's wife reads the document is completely inspired by the scene where Melfi reads the psychologist's text in the penultimate episode of The Sopranos, where she finds out why criminals go to therapy

She didn't betray him. She suggested he's probably dead: "assuming he's still alive". She's somewhat protecting him while clearing her conscience.

No ONE saw Kim going back to Howard’s wife and telling the truth! Then meeting Jesse outside Saul’s office! Absolutely brilliant writing! Writers strike again! Pure Gold!

The "He didn't suffer" line reminds me of the "Justice" line from Mike's scene with Nacho's dad. Both meaning well but not fully appreciating the that their morals are still compromised, despite how they try to justify themselves. Both Mike and Kim get a verbal beating down after this, and while it's questionable Mike had enough goodness left in him to really self-reflect on what Nacho's father was saying, I think Kim really takes it on board. I think that's why Kim breaks down on the bus, this is the realisation she can't ever truly redeem herself for what she's done. She's permanently broken.

Cheryl: “You gangster and your JUSTICE. You are all the same.”

When Saul met Marie, Marie mentioned that they found Hank and Steve's body on the hole that means Skyler told the DEA of the coordinations from Walt about their bodies and Marie felt relieved of it. Meanwhile in here, no one know where Howard's body was. It's already been a skeleton since it's been 6 years. And even worse, Superlab has been burnt by Walt and Jesse. The only one who knows are Mike, Gus and Gus' men and they all dead.

She didn't betray him. She confessed and then covered for him by implying he might be dead. She still cares for him enough to protect him.

dawg this is just like the scene with the therapist in Sopranos

Kim coming in with the redemption arc

Kim Wexler’s “I did it for me” moment

His body will never be found but at least justice will be done. RIP Howard Hamlin 🙏🏽 👔

I felt so much better after watching this scene. Despite not being a saint, Howard didn't deserve his career and reputation to be ruined like that. At least he had some justice in the end, poor man

I wish we got more background on Cheryl and Howard’s relationship. As far as we’ve seen, Cheryl was very cold and distant to Howard, but changes her tune once Howard died. I think it would be important to know why Cheryl and Howard’s relationship was strained and if Cheryl’s intentions were good or not.

Next thing you know Howard and Lalo bodies would be found under the Super Lab after all this time. It's not impossible. Given Saul connection to Walt and to Gus, it possible the police would search even the Super Lab over again. Even someone buying it at a police auction and digging in the ground should uncover the pair.

That title can be interpreted in many ways

This title makes it sound like Kim snuck off the reservation for a little dirty damp and deep with Cheryl

Well now I love Kim more than I did before

This was the moment that Kim became a canary.

The title "Kim betrays Saul with Howard's wife" sure reads differently without context lol

Kim is trying to redeem herself. Seeing what Jimmy has become left her heartbroken and now guilt is the only thing that remains. She's ready to face the consecuences, doesn't mind if Jimmy does to, she wants him to but won't turn himself in, she just wants to do what she thinks is the right thing for her own good.

Your title is all wrong. Kim didn’t “betray” Jimmy at all. He told her to turn herself in. And she still protected him by saying she didn’t know if he was alive.

I have to say that there was only one thing throughout all this season that gave me real chills and goosebumps and that was the way that the producers made so close shots to the letters from 1:10 to 1:16, from 1:23 and 1:27, from 1:39 to 1:41 and from 1:53 to 1:55. Nothing else throughout all this season and the entire series caused me that creepy sensation than that.

The title makes it sound like Kim and Cheryl had a sexual rendezvous...

Man , I wish we got to read Kim's full confession

The title looks intimate.

i REALLY want to see kim's written retelling of the events, even if its all info i already know, the way she write would give insight in her emotions and perspective with everything that has happened

Really great scene, the way she is reading the letter and how the editing is giving us the same feel as the character

Cheryl was wearing her wedding ring in the scene she was introduced and still now years later. Suggests that deep down she cared and still cares about Howard

"He didn't suffer" was a very dumb thing for Kim to say.

She came forward because Jimmy essentially said "You want me to turn myself in? Then you should too" she confessed because of Jimmy. She wouldn't have said anything if he hadn't called her. He confessed because of Kim. He wouldn't have said anything if Kim weren't in the courtroom.

_The lies you two made up, the picture you painted, that’s all he is now… that’s all that anyone remembers_ 😞

You know, seeing all the shit they did written out on that document really makes it hit home just how depraved, yet intricate this whole scheme was.

The title should be Kim looks for redemption

For a wife who treated Howard obnoxiously, she suddenly seems to care a lot!

If I’ve learned anything in life: atonement is messy. This scene illustrates why most people try it, but don’t have the heart to feel that burn , but keep going until the burning turns into purification, like cauterizing a wound

The way they showed the letter is insane. Genuenly gave me goosebumps

"Betrays" Saul? LOLOLOLOL

I wouldn’t have labeled it this way, betraying Saul. She didn’t tell him she wasn’t going to confess. He egged her onto it?

Kim should have done this when they were investigating Gus before he died and before the meth lab was burnt down

Damn i want to read this whole thing

Kim cleared her conscience, but not for the right reasons. It was to make herself feel better. I think back to her comment about narcissists during the episode with the traffic cone. She's not compassionate nor empathetic. Yes, her tears on the bus are real, but not for Howard's family, reputation, or Legacy, it's about Kim. Perhaps PTSD, but she wouldn't have done it had Jimmy not called her with the FBI likely listening in.

I've always considered the resolution here to be very unsatisfying. And to be clear I don't mean that as a criticism I actually think it really works. The lack of any real catharsis for Howard makes it even more tragic what happened to him. Maybe the cops think to dig up Gus' superlab and find Lalo and Howard it's not outside the realm of possibilities but most likely they aren't going to find Howard's body. Saul is going to prison and his confession to his involvement in Howard's death was likely taken into account but even if it weren't Saul is still going to prison for the rest of his life for everything else he did. Because of that, it being a punishment for what happens to Howard feels like an afterthought. Kim's only ever gonna be punished financially since the DA is likely not gonna prosecute. Her reputation may be ruined but she doesn't live in Albuquerque anymore so it's not like that's worth much. The way it's set up robs you of any catharsis and sense that justice has been done. Howard's body will probably never be found, Jimmy's going to prison but it's mostly for everything else he did for Walt, and Kim may have confessed but it's not like anything substantial is gonna come of it outside of her losing money. Howard's reputation may be restored but it's a cold comfort knowing there's never really gonna be justice. And I think that narratively that works so well

This scene reminded me of a scene in the Blue Comet from the Sopranos, which was when Dr.Melfi was reading the anti social personality research essay

I’d hate to see Clifford Mains reaction to finding out what truly happened to Saul. He was one of the few innocent people in the show who was with Howard every step of the way while being sabotaged. He tried to get Howard help but didn’t believe Howard when he said it was Jimmy making a mockery of him.

The title is wrong because Kim didn't rat Jimmy out. In fact, she was protecting him by saying “assuming he’s still alive” instead of outright saying he’s in Nebraska

It's funny that she says she doesn't think they'll find Howard's body because they almost certainly are going to find Howard's body - his body is buried beneath a super lab that got burned down by the most famous drug lord in the country. If there's one place where they'll eventually find any bodies buried on the premises, it's beneath that laundromat. Given that they know Howard was killed by the Salamanca crime family, I wouldn't be surprised if they could positively ID him because he'd be one of the people whose dental records they'd run now that they know a Salamanca murdered him.

Wow anyone notice she still has her ring on ? Even after howards death she kept it on, she truly loved him

Kim is like Walter White coming back from Albuquerque to defeat Jack

Judging from Howard's morning routine, Kim and Jimmy weren't the only ones Howard suffered from

How the written confession didn’t land Kim up on charges escapes me.

This is the moment Cheryl became Chef Skinner from Ratatouille (2007)

Special commendation to the actress that played Cheryl, she has like 3 scenes but its a great performance, this one is great

"Kim betrays saul" 🤣 Let me Guess, are You a Skyler hater? Public school? Fanboy of real time criminals?

"betrays" is a bit harsh

You can really see the regret in Cheryl for having bought into the image of Howard that Jimmy and Kim were manufacturing.

I dont know if im reaching or not but at 2:32, the lamp or whatever that is behind howards wife looks like howard himself.

3:11 Kim’s right. Lalo didn’t make Howard suffer, but Kim and Jimmy did

Kim literally stepping into the light at the start of this scene

The end cards touting your other videos, which cover the faces of these fine actors, are infuriating.

"Kim cheats Saul with Howard's wife" sounds better.

this didnot go public. mike and gus would never let that happen. wait just realised this happened after the breaking bad. forgot the black and white was from the future. heh.

I probably would have emailed it.

Given the title, I was expecting something else

Cheryl got to keep the house. Good for her!

Kim didn't betray Jimmy or anyone else by going to Howard's widow. At this point everyone on the criminal side directly or indirectly involved in Howard's murder and cover up is either dead, imprisoned or a fugitive. So Kim wasn't bringing anything information that was going to do further implicate or complicate anyone except for Kim herself. Hence one of if not possibly the only reason she didn't come forward with this information sooner.

This is a clickbait title if I ever seen one

Kim submitted an affadavit expecting to be tried, but that's not a certainty. She went to his estranged ex-wife and confessed but it's not certain if she'll sue. She's faced the music expecting swift justice, but it didn't come. She may very well get away with it.

I am kind of glad, even if I like Kim as a character, that she didn't get off the hook here.

Somewhere, in the same city this scene takes place. Skylar, Walter Jr. and Holly are enjoying the money from Gretchen and Elliot’s charitable donation.

Glad howard name was cleared.

Question - how long after BrBa is the Gene timeline?

Howard is probably hugging Lalo in a dark hole somewhere for finally getting some justice.

Kim had way more courage than the great Heizenberg. She found resolve to look her victim in the eyes and face her admonition. She was not afraid of shame and humiliation.

"he didn't suffer" yeah he didn't suffer my ass He was at the lowest point of his life, and only to be met with a terrible fate

I was expecting a scene where a builder finds Lalo & Howard's bodies after reconstruction on the burnt lab.

I imagine Howard’s widow must feels extreme guilty.

4:35 we can see that Kim is now using "Yep" instead of "Okay"

First few seconds: Kim waits for Howard’s wife to invite her to seat; realizes this ain’t gonna happen but still this would take toi long to stand; so decides to sit but picks the further most chair.

“Betrays Saul”

I'd probably have to watch Breaking Bad again, specifically the Season 4 finale, but is there a chance the bodies of Howard and Lalo could be found beneath the lab?

Good thing it's been six years since 2004, because it turns out the statute of limitations for defamation in New Mexico is three years, meaning that Cheryl's threat to take everything from Kim has no standing.

The title out of context is going to throw someone off if they haven't seen the 6th season yet.

Why does she ask “Howard was murdered?”…lady, you just read that he was shot in the head.

She cleared her guilty conscience

To make things right, Kim would do whatever it takes to make it right. Even if it involves paying someone for life.