BEWARE! Engine Tick 3.6 Pentastar Owners | Engine Flaw

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This is an awareness video for all who own or know someone who owns a Dodge, Jeep or Chrysler with the 3.6 liter Pentastar engine. They suffer from premature rocker arm failure and if gone unrepaired it can ruin the engine.
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@mortonclary5358 10 месяцев назад

Problem is dry starts. Baxter makes an oil fill adapter with spin on filter that eliminates dry starts

@bruceblackerby3742 10 месяцев назад

The 4.0L inline six was far superior. And a lot easier to work on if needed.

@terrybrown3224 10 месяцев назад

Absolutely the 4.0 jeep and 4.9 straight 6 by ford till years ago

@variableknife4702 9 месяцев назад

The 4.0 wasn't perfect, and I'm not even sure superior applies. Great for the vehicles it was in, sure. Good torque at low RPM, sure. I'm also not sure you could get it to pass modern emissions standards, which is a reality-level problem for manufacturers.

@cromBumny 6 месяцев назад

The 4.0 was simple but had a terrible design from the horse power perspective

@dukejukebox775 Год назад

I was thinking on buying a brand new Wrangler and I am glad I did thorough research on 3.6 L pentastar engines.Them Jeeps cost way too much to begin with to have such big issues, and I understand fan following, etc. but I ain't a masochist to enjoy the pain on a regular basis with engin issues.

@jbuelman2025 Год назад

Did the same job on our 2015 Jeep Wrangler with 75K a couple years ago. I didn't take the cams off as they weren't damaged, I simply loosened the journals and gently lifted the cam at the front of the head to get to those rocker followers. My advise to anyone who has to do this is to do both sides, replacing at least all of the rocker followers. Additionally if you're into the engine that far, take the lower intake plenum off and replace the crappy oil cooler with an all metal one such as the Dorman all aluminum oil cooler. These were three separate jobs that I had to do when I could have done it all at once. HIndsight... The engine now has 115K and runs great. Above all, change the oil regularly. I change ours in 5K increments and I use Penzoil Platinum high mileage.

@ValleyMobileAutomotive Год назад

Good advice! I agree 👍

@jonpeterson4085 8 месяцев назад

@@ValleyMobileAutomotive 2023 any good??

@ElricX 11 месяцев назад

Flawed but I really like the Pentastar. Very powerful for what it is.

@cjsteele9594 9 месяцев назад

Use good oil, change every 5000mi.

@melvinjacobs2328 9 месяцев назад

I've had 4 cars with that engine, and never had one problem with it.

@TanManFixes 5 месяцев назад

u have been very lucky. and hope to god u don't have the trash 62TE transmission.

@roundman-1972 Год назад

have a 14 TC started hearing ticking and took it right away. bad rocker. and for the guy that says change your oil, i have a 3rd party warranty on this van and they checked everything to not pay but i am very good on oil changes before needed and i had all of them done at dealership so there was no question on my part. they ended up doing it but not liking it! nice vid showing the problem. now if you could figure out my 4.3 ticking id be happy!

@seans63lemansSD Год назад

I just replaced my rockers on engine with 120k. Only one. Bad rocker on each side, but i replace all. Nice not having to remove the cams.

@Penske_Truck_Roseburg-Ore Год назад

I have the transversed type Engine in my Dodge Grand caravan 3.6 VVT and I have 94,850 miles on it and no ticking. After looking at this video, I decided to go start mine up and let it run for a while to see if there is a ticking, but nothing just smooth running. I change my Oil every 5,500 miles with fully synthetic Oil also change my Transmission fluid every 47,000 Miles. I guess I'm good to go. It's very cheap to put very good Oil in both you Engine and Transmission, then having to replace an Engine or Transmission.

@TanManFixes 5 месяцев назад

sell it. the transmissions are known for terrible transmission issues.

@generac43 Год назад

Very helpful! My 2019 Ram has 48,000. I'll keep an ear out for that later on.

@greggc8088 Год назад

170K on my wife's Caravan and no rockers or oil filter housing yet. 10W-30 synthetic oil changes every 5K and the fact that she doesn't put it into the high RPM range helps I suppose. I've seen them go at 70Kish and some last to over 250K. I suppose if hers doesn't start the cold morning squeak before 200K, I'll probably yank the valve covers and intake and do the oil filter housing and a set of rockers then just as a preventative.

@heydude4532 Год назад

My 2012 wrangler was bought new and has 118,000 plus miles with numerous high RPM pulls with ZERO problems other than having the defective head replaced around the 24,000-mile mark. I've always ran a quality full synthetic brand oil with once a year oil changes providing, I didn't go over 10,000 miles. I do an oil filter change every 6 months and let it ride. I believe most problems are people not doing proper routine maintenance.

@hollowdog7208 10 месяцев назад

Not "common" affects less than 1% of 3.6 engines.

@uberdetail5408 2 месяца назад

1% doesn’t seem like much if you don’t understand basic arithmetic. 1% of 1million engines? It’s far more than 1% hence the class action against Chrysler regarding the shite 3.6lt valve train issues. I have a JT and the Pentastar is a shite engine with a cheap valve train.

@tuffmccabe3097 Год назад

I am at 135k and developed the tick about 3k ago. Looking to replace the rockers and hope it'll do. Misfire on 3 so hoping that's where it'll be to save lots of time. 21 ram 1500 3.6L

@brianm9007 Год назад

Great explanation and demonstration! Thanks!!

@marene76 Год назад

I have watched a few of this videos but not many people talk about the Hydraulic Valve lifters being also a problem if they become soft it leaves the rocker to move around causing ticking also.

@Swanny. 5 месяцев назад

The issue was addressed in the second gen of the 3.6 that came out in 2016 for the 2017+ models...

@whythatsfantastic4602 4 месяца назад

How did they correct the defect?

@briansherman7132 Месяц назад

@@whythatsfantastic4602 did you ever find the answer?

@marcokahny709 9 месяцев назад

I have the first gen 2011 penastar in a VW Routan always used 10w30 since it was new And it still sounds like it's new the thinner oils were made for better gas mileage not engine protection my wife is hard on that van so i did what makes sense to me After 6 to 8 thousand miles the oil is still right where I filled it to

@mike479 9 месяцев назад

Very good explanation and video. I have a 2015 Journey that just rolled 100k KM. I bought it at 81k. I do my oil changes every 8000km on the dot. My oil filter housing isn’t even sweating either. I commute all highway miles with it, so it lives a pretty easy live cruising along at 2000rpm.

@289hipo 9 месяцев назад

Recommend you reduce it to 3-5k intervals

@mails5054 8 месяцев назад

I have 75k miles, my dad had 200k on a jeep. I think it is just luck cus the rockers are made by melling, not chrysler

@PhamVans Год назад

An unfortunate flaw, otherwise the engine is actually quite good despite some of it's other weaknesses (plastic fuel rail and plastic oil cooler to name a few.) I think the secret to this issue is to not cheap out on the oil. Go with a high end synthetic (these engines came out of the factory with a Penzoil blend) and a slightly heavier weight. This will reduce the amount of friction on the rockers and should extend the life of them. Also, if you notice the ticking, just spend the money to replace the rocker(s) if you actually plan on keeping the vehicle. It's not the hardest job in the world, unless you get really unlucky and it ends up being a rocker close to the timing chain which I think you would have to remove the main timing cover for access to the tensioner.

@blugan 7 месяцев назад

Hello, What kind of high-end synthetic oil do you recommend? My dealer used 5W20, is that good? Thank you.

@mekon04 Год назад

my 2014 300 has 155k on it use full synth no issues

@greggcollins4215 8 месяцев назад

Glad that in 2018 I bought a Ridgeline instead of the Durango I was considering. The Dodge salesman was a high pressure jerk and the Honda guy more laid back.

@calbob750 Год назад

My 2014 T&C with 135,000 miles and regular maintenance at dealership had the Cylinder Head replaced last month. $3000+ repair. Surprise! Minivan is back in shop same problem. P0302 code. Another $3000+ fix. Only $10,000 in warranty work since new. First time code P0302. Second time P0306.

@garmstr400 Год назад

The Pentastar is a good engine, 5w20 Pennzoil or Valvoline Synthetic, keep the oil changed and watch out long periods of Idling same as the 5.7 Hemi dont go over 5000 miles on an oil change

@ValleyMobileAutomotive Год назад

I agree overall these are good engines. I have a good number of customers sporting this engine in different vehicles. Few things go wrong with them. The rocker arm issue almost seems random on who it will affect. This Jeep only had 75k on it and I know they changed their oil religiously. I did a Caravan recently and it had around 150k before failure. I don't think all these engines are guaranteed to fail but it's definitely something to be aware of.

@mfr5725 Год назад

@@ValleyMobileAutomotive could be a fluke or its possible the Jeep gets rev'd out twice as much as the mini van. Shorter oil change interval for the jeeper?

@jimrusch22 10 месяцев назад

What’s strange is that this particular pentastar was well maintained judging from the absents of sludge. I thought this issue was totally resolved with the Gen 3 Pentastar from 2016 on.

@Japplesnap 7 месяцев назад

I haven't seen a single Gen 3 Pentastar with the rocker failure issue.

@fraudsarentfriends4717 7 месяцев назад

Or that cylinder head has been off in the past and this is warranty work on a remanufactured head or engine. Might be a Jiffy Lube we forgot to put oil back in special. Nobody really knows the history behind any of these engines in these videos.

@NessNik 8 месяцев назад

Mine only has 48k and needed newrockers , lifters and exost cam!!!! I drive alot of short trips , so alot of dry starts from the poor oil filter design

@shameelshemi8057 6 месяцев назад

Well explained

@skynetwifi9211 Год назад

I have 2 of the POS .How much should this repair cost ?

@ryoung6730 Год назад

for the rollers on the rocker assembly to be so loose that the rollers sink in past the frame the bearings have to just about be gone, therefor you must assume that all of the metal from those hardened roller bearings os currently migrating through your oil galleries and has no doubt been caught between other moving parts causing other damage and creating more metal etc, etc, this is just poor quality.

@TheOriginalBeeCee Год назад

Good video!

@jeffmoore9179 9 месяцев назад

Is this issue related on how they designed the oil system, where all the oil drains back down because the filter is on top of engine?

@289hipo 9 месяцев назад

Oil changes at 3-5000 mi with quality oil & filter cover a lot of sins

@mrlbjunk 10 месяцев назад

Hi. How much shop time would it take to remove and replace a bank of roller bearings? Thx

@bigd835 10 месяцев назад

this is the exact same issue chyrsler had on the 5.7 hemi engine a few years ago. lots of camshafts ruined by roller bearings. that was a very expenisve repair once the roller bearing completely failed. why isnt this a recall ? why has chrysler once again produced a faulty engine ? the big 3 are a disaster. has the roller rocker been redesigned - if so what year vehicle got the improved design ?

@j.rcoker9051 6 месяцев назад

I have a 14 Grand Cherokee 3.6 with 165k on it and it runs like a top. Only issue I have ever had was the oil cooler. I run high mi full synthetic oil FROM WALMART every 5000 miles.

@BigEightiesNewWave 11 месяцев назад

DAMB like my 4-cylinder Focus is reliable, 21.5 years/207k miles, NO issues.

@charliebyrd1806 10 месяцев назад

Lost my intake cams. Butnot till 140. I never used 0 weight oil always used 10 weight mobile 1.

@brianv.1300 7 месяцев назад

Oil is never thinner than the largest number. 0w stands for winter not weight. 0w20 at operating temp is still 20 weight. Oils weight are designed to be 20weight At 212F. 0winter-20 just resists way over thickening at cold temps or room temp better than a 5winter-20 would.

@KubanKevin 10 месяцев назад

I've seen a few JL wranglers with over 100k and they don't seem to have this problem anymore.

@Rubi747HVY 8 месяцев назад

Do you think a thicker oil would help?

@PaulWiltsey 6 месяцев назад

Currently at 41K on a 2020 JLU and all is running well. I see these videos ( this was an excellent video by the way .. best I have seen ) ... and I would like to know if there is something I can do now to bulletproof / prevent / get ahead of hitting this in the next 30K potentially ? Dorman has a few related products to replace the weaker composite parts. Are there any other products / procedures you would recommend ahead of the issues becoming noticeable or something failing?

@Helloitsmeagain12345 Год назад

Should have used ceramic bearings for that .

@fraudsarentfriends4717 7 месяцев назад

As far as anyone knows this is damage from a local Jiffy oil change service forgetting to put the oil back in.

@peterboyd7452 Год назад

I heard this only on certain years of the 3.6

@fattygamer94 Год назад

@Lauren Hariton This pretty much affects almost all Jeep Dodge in Chrysler's with the same 3.6

@alwayslearningthefacts5881 8 месяцев назад

@2:50 why are these rockers failing ? poor heat treatment of roller bearings ? That same cam lobe, I would not worry about the damage on the edges of the lobe. That never rides the cam anyway . I just bought a 15 durango with 67,000 fingers crossed. I think a revised rocker was implemented in the 16 and newer.

@beerdragon4583 Год назад

I wish the Pentastar had aluminum valve covers vs the cheap plastic crap.

@neilduncan8657 6 месяцев назад

It has been said that the metal used in jeeps doesn't have a good layer of hardness on the cams and other components.....I would avoid jeeps due to the aluminum wiring harnesses

@justinchamberlin3651 8 месяцев назад

My mother in laws 2021 grand Cherokee L had cam/lifer failure at 12,000 miles.....

@pujabelgian Год назад

I've got a 2015 2 dr wrangler. Spends more time parked inside than outside. Only has 12000 kms on it. (about 7300 miles) I've been changing the synthetic oil once a yr with sometimes less than a 1000 kms. It runs fine but the posts are freaking me out, like maybe I should sell it! My daily driver is a 99 astro in great condit. 137000 kms.

@clintperry799 8 месяцев назад

I had a 2012 Rubicon and sold it with 99500 miles. The thought of that type of repair convinced me to sell it. I don't think I will buy a jeep or a Chrysler product ever again.

@lightningsmokerXx 3 месяца назад

What about a popping noise at idle, sounds more like a pop than a tick, comes from somewhere around the firewall area under the hood in the engine bay. Have you ever heard that , ours has this odd noise.

@calbob750 8 месяцев назад

Believe it or not. Just had the cylinder head replaced for the THIRD time on my 2014 Town & Country with 154,000 miles!!! My understanding is the 2016 Pentastar was modified and doesn’t have the problem. Is it possible to install a 2016 engine in a 2014 minivan. My 2014 has the Mopar lifetime maximum warranty. ( no longer available)

@rhunter3406 9 месяцев назад

Drove mine like this for over 2 years before I was able to fix it. Mileage may vary LOL

@hudekhoustonartist 3 месяца назад

Just had both sides done on my 2014 jeep GC with 90,000 miles on it. Total cost was $4900. all new cams rockers and lifters. This was a real bitter pill to swallow. Going with Toyota next car.

@tripleseven8361 3 месяца назад

Very informative… Thanks, but I don’t think you talked about what causes this problem… Is it a design flaw? What can be done to prevent it from happening in the first place?

@blecgaming9069 2 года назад

Owned a 2015 dodge journey with the 3.6 penastar. 10W40 Castrol, is best to use with the engine. The lighter weight oil breaks down to quickly and causes lifter failure/rocker failure and timing chain stretch. 10W40 Castrol. is just right to keep the lobs from burning up and the chain from stretching. The vehicle I owned in question, made 171,877

@OffTheBeatenPath_ Год назад

I've got 167,000 on my '12 wrangler. So far so good

@BigTravGill Год назад

You're happy at 171,000..? my god man thats not much at all...

@blecgaming9069 Год назад

@Travis Gill I agree, it's not much. Probably would have went farther if a wreck didn't total it lol. I'm content to trade to a new vehicle if I get 200K/more or five years.

@BigTravGill Год назад

@@blecgaming9069 trust me man no hating from me... I work on cars for a living and its sad to see so many terrible designs... I have the old 4.0 straight 6 in my Jeep..270,000 and its never been into for repairs...well yet lol

@blecgaming9069 Год назад

@Travis Gill I gotcha, I also have a older dodge with the 5.9 magnums V8. Super tough engine as it's 15K away from 300K , originally engine and transmission shockingly lol

@palmlimit9297 11 месяцев назад

I got a 2013 jeep wrangler with a 3.6 it now has 150,000 miles on it bought it brand new in 2013. It has ticked since the day I bought it. This is a solution in search of a problem.

@alexrebmann1253 Год назад

2012 bought a new 200 with this engine. 11 years later put on only 58 thousand miles, and still looks new. Changed oil evet 3, to 5000 miles with synthetic oil.Engine check light came on and got misfire code. Took to dealership and told me I need to replacement left cylinder head. 4000$ repair. Did some research and found that this is another big problem with this engine. If right cylinder should go bad, I will call the junk yard to pick it up.

@ValleyMobileAutomotive Год назад

Ah man that's a bummer! Did they give an explanation like a burnt valve?

@alexrebmann1253 Год назад

@@ValleyMobileAutomotive valve seats, chrysler put out a TSB on this problem. They extended warranty from date of purchase 10 years or 150 thousand miles. Have only 58 thousand miles but 10 year ran out 2022. I think chrysler should cover some of the cost even thow the warranty ran out.

@jomanji1608 8 месяцев назад

I have a 2015 journey. 145 k . No noise.

@Laurasunshine94 3 месяца назад

My wrangler makes the same rattle noise no codes, what could be the problem? We replaced the rocker arms and lifters (none were bad) what's next?

@blurglide 10 месяцев назад

Would adding a little ZDDP to the oil...maybe just like 1 cup of diesel oil, prevent this? Would that little amount cause too much damage to the cats?

@ValleyMobileAutomotive 10 месяцев назад

Unfortunately nothing can prevent this. The parts used during manufacturing cannot handle the load put on them and the needle bearings fail. While this is affecting a large number of vehicles there is still the majority not affected.

@gnd111 Год назад

Not a major flaw. Takes 2 hours to change rockers, my first one failed at 150k

@matt9c1 11 месяцев назад

Yes. Yes it is. This has been a problem for years and never addressed by Chrysler/Daimler/Fiat/Stellantis or whomever owns them today. Same as GM's AFM. Tens of thousands of 5.3 engines died way too soon because it, and GM kept pooping them out and had no care in the world. All Chrysler has to do is put "that much" more effort into quality and they'd have a decent vehicle. But they never had, and never will. So, I only buy Toyota products now. The only time I see the mechanic is for oil changes, tires and brakes.

@shdw6662 11 месяцев назад

@@matt9c1typical Toyota fan boy

@matt9c1 11 месяцев назад

@@shdw6662 Shame on me for being smart about my money eh ?

@shdw6662 11 месяцев назад

@@matt9c1 lol just pulling your leg. Toyota is undeniably one of those most reliable vehicle manufacturers. My dream car is a AE86 and I know I’ll get one someday cause they’ll still be on the road running ;) but the pentastar 3.6 are reasonably reliable compared to other v6s on the market.

@johngranato2673 6 месяцев назад

I am in the class car hobby. I have pulled apart many engines that have sat for years and they still had oil in and on the rockers, lifters, and journals. Dry start argument for the 3.6 Mopar is nonsense. No such thing in any car that sits overnight or while you're on vacation. What's the problem, then? Poor design and materials. The overhead cam(s) design goes back a long way with Fiat, Triumph, Jaguar, etc. This should not be a problem with modern engines. Again, poor design and materials!

@cwmeekins2364 Год назад

I never see anyone checking engine oil level- they add fuel and go.

@tuffmccabe3097 Год назад

You can't check the oil on them.

@unitfour3097 8 месяцев назад

I'm currently looking at a '15 Ram with this engine. It is very quiet with 98k miles. Just how expensive of a repair is it ? (non Dealer)

@darryljacobs4090 Год назад

You can say what you want, I'm running not walking away from this Pentastar 3.6 garbage. My 99 Jeep cherokee with 4.0L 6 cyl has 341,000 miles and the engine has never been open up. My 2015 wrangler has 75k and its ticking and I baby all my vehicles.

@alwayslearningthefacts5881 10 месяцев назад

Why does the auto makers recommend 15k mile oil changes ? The oil has to be filthy by then ! Will 5k oil changes prevent this ?

@lrobie123 11 дней назад

15k oil changes is meant to create auto sales for dealership in 6 years from the time the new vehicle was bought

@dionmoore879 Год назад

I had my eye on a super clean 2014 Caravan 136k and all maint records, But to take a chance on major engine worries..nope. pass it by.

@mame-lomamee Год назад

Did you buy it?

@dionmoore879 Год назад

@@mame-lomamee Nope, I was afraid.

@jonmitchell7626 Год назад

This was incredibly informative. I just got told that my 2012 VW Routan has pretty much this same issue. It has 146k miles. Their recommendation was replacing valve lifters, timing chain, and catalytic converter totaling $11k. I’m at a loss. Obviously I’m not going to put that much into my van. Does this seem right?

@seatime674 8 месяцев назад

Yes that's very wrong, with 146000 miles just have a new engine put in it and would be less than what you were quoted

@jonmitchell7626 8 месяцев назад

@@seatime674 A new engine was quoted at around $8k. Still to much to invest into an older van unfortunately.

@MrRGM10 5 месяцев назад

How much is the rocker arm?

@carlolopresti280 Месяц назад

I change the cemmis at 40 k and the rocker arm add 50,000 MI and after that I changed the rock arm and the camms 3 more times

@joeb2588 11 дней назад

Seems like the oil cooler, rocker ticking both fail between 75k - 125k. I was interested in a Ram with this engine but i stopped looking at it.. im not dealing with this. Chrysler never changed.

@33sansan Год назад

2015grand Cherokee 40k miles same problem will never by 3.6 pentastar

@gnd111 Год назад

215k on 2012..changed 4 rockers in 10 years. Great engine

@4x4_travel 11 месяцев назад

Are there any aftermarket solutions or do you have to put OEM parts back in and wait for them to fail again?

@ValleyMobileAutomotive 11 месяцев назад

The new OEM parts are updated and more robust. If you decide to use aftermarket parts I would use a well known good quality brand.

@hinahanta 5 месяцев назад

Could the issue be coming from the the thin 0w20 oil being used? And would it be ok to use a 5w30 instead of the 0w20?

@EasternUNO 2 месяца назад

I have 2017 dodge grand caravan and I am using 5W-30. I have no issues at all. I change oil every 5 - 6k miles

@JO3BID3N-is-a-P3D0 8 месяцев назад

my 2018 journey is aight at about 100k miles. i use synthetic with lucas oil synthetic safe oil additive. and i try not to let it idle long. when i have to idle it ill blip the gas every now and again to help oil get to all the components.

@briangong007 Год назад

What's the estimated labor charge on this repair?

@jduda1127 Год назад

I believe service manual says like 8hrs

@seatime674 8 месяцев назад

The new 3rd Gen Pentastar starting in '18 and in the new Pacificas wont have this issue its been resolved..

@whythatsfantastic4602 4 месяца назад

How?

@seatime674 4 месяца назад

@@whythatsfantastic4602 The top end valve train has been redesigned and a few bugs ironed out

@LugoDH Год назад

Are there aftermarket rockers/lifters that you recommend? Are there upgraded/updated oem rockers/lifters? Where should I order from. Also, if replacing a camshaft, just go OEM?

@ValleyMobileAutomotive Год назад

The OEM rockers have been updated. If at all possible I would stick with OEM parts. Melling is also a good aftermarket brand if the OEM parts are out of stock.

@LugoDH Год назад

@@ValleyMobileAutomotive ok great. Thanks for the quick reply!

@olenygard9346 Год назад

Don't get a recommend from this promotor.

@alvaritoesquivel875 8 месяцев назад

I change my oil every 4k snd no issues at 95k

@yamalflores5269 10 месяцев назад

Hey was there loss of power ? My 3rd cylinder keeps misfiring any info will be appreciated

@Capt-awesome 9 месяцев назад

Dealership said my head gasket had a micro leak into cylinder 3. They replaced the spark plug and the coil before doing the head gasket job had to film it to get Chrysler to warranty it. 2018 Pacifica.

@johnmadsen37 11 месяцев назад

My gas engine sound like a Diesel engine. It sounds so cool.

@LOVE-JC777 8 месяцев назад

Since car companies say ever 5k or more change your oil. Stick to grandpas days 3k

@davefried81 4 месяца назад

Just started on my 2016 300 with 107K. I was quoted $575 for parts and labor to replace arms. I am terribly worried about the shaft tho

@ValleyMobileAutomotive 4 месяца назад

It's hard to tell what the cam looks like until you pull it apart but if it's ticking most likely there is substantial wear on the lobe already. I would be cautious about that price though. It seems too low. Labor alone is 5.5 hours. I would get a second quote from another shop and ask both shops what brand of parts they are using and what their shop's hourly rate is. I would recommend only using genuine Mopar or Melling parts 👍

@user-kb8jd7bt3r 9 месяцев назад

If the damage to the camshaft is confined to the area where the frame of the failed rocker arm made contact, and not to the area where the roller on the new rocker arm will make contact, would you still recommend replacing the camshaft?

@ValleyMobileAutomotive 9 месяцев назад

I would recommend replacement. There is a reason the engineers left the cam lobes wider than the actual contact area. Also the roller stops rolling so the lobe will no longer have the correct shape. You may be able to keep it and have it run fine but for how long?

@user-kb8jd7bt3r 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for your reply. That makes sense. And thanks for your videos in general. They are very helpful. @@ValleyMobileAutomotive

@ijaxon6675 10 месяцев назад

It can be a manufacturing defect and a metallurgical failure because of it. If you're replacing it with another one that can fail because of a flaw you are simply going to have to keep doing it. Unfortunately you can't visually inspect the needle bearing in the rocker after manufacturing, you'd need to do it before and we're talking thousands of them.

@ValleyMobileAutomotive 10 месяцев назад

Fortunately the parts have been updated, so hopefully they fixed whatever was causing the failure.

@mikefoehr235 Год назад

If the ticking issue is not repaired, will the engine show first a misfire code and then ultimately, will it chuck a rod or piston thru the block?

@ValleyMobileAutomotive Год назад

It might misfire but it might not show any symptoms other than a tick. It has 2 intake and 2 exhaust valves per Cylinder. If one no longer opens properly it still has the other. The biggest risk I see is the potential for the rocker arm to kick out and or jam under the camshaft. Depending on how that happens it can crack the head or leave a valve open colliding with the piston head. Not to mention the metal debris it's creating 😕

@mikefoehr235 Год назад

@@ValleyMobileAutomotive 👍

@rarelibra 4 месяца назад

I have not one, but two 3.6L Pentastars ... 2015 Jeep Wrangler JKU and 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee WK2 ... the Wrangler has 110k miles, the Grand Cherokee has 85k miles ... both of them are in great shape. Why? Because if you do regular maintenance on them, change oil every 5k miles, etc... you won't run into these issues.

@robertvelten346 4 месяца назад

Design flaw that's it change oil every 2 weeks It won't help

@rarelibra 4 месяца назад

@@robertvelten346 that's your opinion.

@olduhfguy 3 месяца назад

I would think that a roller rocker with needle bearings would be able to survive on little or no oil unlike regular plain bearings that require constant oil and could be wiped out by dry starts. Seems like something else is in play here........

@st5637 4 месяца назад

So how often does this need to be done? In another 75k miles?

@ValleyMobileAutomotive 4 месяца назад

Once it's done with quality parts you shouldn't need to do it again 👍

@SibRevs Год назад

Has this issue been resolved?

@ValleyMobileAutomotive Год назад

I believe so. Mopar has updated their rockers. So the new ones should be better.

@rayhofmeister6693 Месяц назад

With just keep oil change every 3k it won't tick use quality oil and fitler

@williamhenry1934 10 месяцев назад

2014 wrangler 90 k and ticking . This shouldn’t happen until 150 thousand miles or more. Costly and upsetting.

@Superbonker-np6iz 10 месяцев назад

What's the average cost to do a job like that ?

@southernkeyz1 10 месяцев назад

I’ve been seeing between $1200-$1400 for the most….(provided that there’s no damage to the cams)

@stevenlengyel9701 4 месяца назад

Oh yes it’s ticking like a drummer

@short5stick Месяц назад

Took. My 3.6 Pacifica 2019 making ticking. They said they replaced four rockers arms and I got it back. It's still ticking. I took pictures before I took it in and did video. I get it back and they never took the valve covers off but they told me they replaced four rockers. I got the service manager and said how'd you do it without taking the valve covers off now? It's been in the shop for a week and they said they'll make it right. Waiting on parts for a week. Only 54k on my Pacifica they lied. They cheated the company. They cheated me now. I called her BS and relying on them to fix it and this is a dealer where I bought my van at brand new

@ValleyMobileAutomotive Месяц назад

Sorry to hear you're having trouble. It's good you have proof to help you out. Hopefully they make it right this time.

@dm19609721 10 месяцев назад

I have the older chrysler 3.3L engine in an 09 caravan that is rusting....engine has 180,000 and burns about .75 quarts of oil every 5 miles......Never has a problem except I needed to change the instake gasket.....the thing is bullet proof. I need a new car and simply don't know what to get.....many large cars like SUVs are going to turbo......they run hot....many cars use plastic oil housings.....Kia/Hyundai 3.5/3.8L are know to have excessive oil burning and piston slap......I don't fit into the highlander....I dont want to spend $50K on a car now adays only to spend $5000 on engine work like this. When are these car makers going to get it right?

@brianjebe7797 8 месяцев назад

that's a lot of oil...

@baldbollocks 9 месяцев назад

I can remember the hype years ago with the introduction of this Pentastar engine. It was amazing.... Really. As usual typical Chrysler junk. Just save all the hassle and get a Honda or Toyota !

@d_manoil1647 Год назад

Sounds like my Hemi

@7628739 5 месяцев назад

No ticks until 200k, then it came fast and the oil cooler failure

@methanial73 Год назад

Well considering they literally made millions upon millions of these engines. Mine has 185K on it and still runs great. I get 33 mpg or better on a 4k lb car.