yea, but if you watched the whole video you'd see the price of the older USA made is the same as the modern cheaper line of boots... Yes, you can get the union made, but they're like 250$ now
If you're looking for a domestic made moc toe Carolina, there are EIGHT to choose from. Maybe you're store didn't have one in your size but had the cheaper imported style that you bought. Carolina has a number of great USA made styles to pick from. Ask your store to stock them!
Carolina didn’t downgrade, you bought their budget friendly boot. Buy Carolina AMP USA for the most comfortable boot ever. I have Thorogoods and Georgias, but Carolina Is the best by far.
I bought a pair on 01-2022 and mine are made in America.They have the flag on the lace and side. Model #7502 and they were more comfortable than the Thorogoods
You are not comparing Apples to Apples. The most recent boot which is still for sale is one of their cheaper boots while the middle one is one of their mid to higher end that is still being produced as well.
I have a pair of USA made 9 inch Carolina 922 loggers and they are the most comfortable footwear I have ever worn. The only time I do not wear them is Sunday morning church service. It's hard to believe that a big heavy boot like this is like heaven on my feet I can't recommend them enough.
First thing I notice is 2 rows of the speed lace rivets vs 3 rows on the old. For me two rows just don't usually allow me to get my foot in and out without untying the laces totally. Defeats the whole purpose of a speed lace for me usually.
I have worn them for years just got a new pair and noticed that they were made differently and the size wasn’t the same as I’ve worn for years. I ended up trying them on did not like the fit and gave them away. Looks like they are not making the boots I’ve worn for years so I guess I’ll be looking for another boot that yes is made in America. That was the best part about them . Thanks for your video
My understanding is that to get the American made boots, you have to look for the American flag logo. They still make them here. They also get some styles from overseas.
They're a completely different price point the the made in the USA pair is a basically a $200 boot while the Vietnam pair is just above $100, they're half the cost of course they're not going to be as good. The middle boot competes with brands like thorogood while the cheap one competes with Carhartt
I love the USA made boot. Check out my first video where I was raving about them. It was my understanding from Carolina boot that they are discontinuing the USA made boot. When I asked them they said they were discontinuing them. I hope that is not true, but that was from the company rep I spoke with.
I just walked into a store to buy new Carolina boots. I was floored by how cheap are low quality the boots were I was looking at compared to the Carolina boots I was looking to replace. It’s unbelievable.
I reviewed them previously in another video. Best boots I’ve had. So disappointing that Carolina said they are discontinuing them. Thanks for watching. Sub to see more videos
Thorogoods have one massive problem, and that is the inconsistent location of the mock toe stitch, which is so often, not even in the same location on the left to right boots! If I do purchase another pair, it will most definitely be from a local mom and pop shoe store, where I can properly inspect them before working over my money for them. I've unfortunately already gone to multiple shoe stores in the hopes of purchasing a new pair, yet every time I've been disappointed to find that the stitch was not in the correct location.
I’ve been buying keen boots made in Oregon. They have other boots that aren’t made in US but the steel toe I buy are made right here in Oregon and they actually last a lot longer!
I always assume that unless a boot specifically states made in America that it's made elsewhere. I've been looking at the Carolina website lately and a lot of the boots look cheap and oddly designed. But you can't really tell unless you do a live and on your foot fitting. I had a pair of their jump boots about thirty years ago and they were pretty solid. I was a bike messenger back then and I wore them for a couple winters running. But the salt and road grime just destroyed the leather. I cleaned them regularly, even used the vinegar trick to dissolve the salt. But salty Chicago streets sent them to an early grave. They were good boots. The leather was good and thick, the zippers were real tough and the soles were great with a nice chewy tread. I think the made in USA Carolina's are still solid.
@@bluegrassman3040 Can confirm. Went to buy a pair and the one with the features I wanted was not made here. Shopped around forever and couldn't find what I wanted in the size I wanted so I finally threw up my hands and ordered a pair of Keen Chicago's. It was very frustrating. I looked at half a dozen websites.
The barnyard middle pair is the amp usa but the newest boot is the flatiron. I just bought a pair of 7811 looks like the middle pair. Hopefully they continue doing amp usa as well as cheaper versions.
You didn't do your homework bro! These are not the same model of carolina boots you're comparing. They're still making the union made version. The model you got was a price point alternative when manufacturing was almost non existent last year and they couldn't keep up building boots.
I had 3 pair. Money wasn’t the issue. Bought them expecting American made, but ended up let down. The American ones were being discontinued, but seems like they may have put them back on the website. The American ones are excellent for the money. I gladly would pay more for the American made boot. I even contacted them wanting those, but they told me they were discontinuing them. I have raved about them in the past. Check out my other videos.
Carolinas apparently are a near-clone of Thorogoods. If you hunt around on RU-vid you can find the video of both pair being cut apart and the differences are extremely minor to the point that the reviewer had to double check they weren't made in the same factory (they are not). As such, the storm welt they both use is synthetic and not leather, and the top row of stitching is actually a faux stitch that doesn't hold anything so losing that second row is no big deal. It was obviously changed to save some money, just like using the cheaper insoles.
I know this. But when I contacted them in the past they said they were discontinuing the American made ones that I loved. Since then it looks like they have decided to continue them, but not that model specifically.
Old post but yea, a year later and i just looked up on there website and they still make the domestic ones (the pair in the middle). Just make sure you keep buying those ones instead of the cheap overseas pair. If people keep buying there cheap overseas products instead of domestic then in the end they'll stop making making them in the USA...
For many years I have bought the CA8821 elm loggers. And in the past 2 yrs I’ve noticed QC has gone down hill as well as the comfort. Information on them says made in America and overseas. I will be looking for another boot soon.
There lower end models to keep up with the irish setters thats why its cheaper in price. There just trying to keep up with the competition. If you pay a lil more you will get a better boot. CA8012 will always be my favorite boot.
I’ve only worn 8” Carolina 28 series boots for years but my last two pair sucked the sole is horrible I can feel everything I step or stand on like I’m bare footed.
I never even knew Carolina made any boots in America. I got my first pair of loggers from them in 2007, for something like $75 off the Cintas truck, and they were made in China. Those were some great boots. I'm on my fourth pair of Carolina's right now,
They still make American made boots in North Carolina. They have a couple different lines. This guy bought the cheaper overseas made line. Their USA made moc toe boots cost around $225.00
I just bought a pair like the middle ones but in an 8 inch moc and they have the same stitching and everything for 206$ the only difference is they have a sole that looks exactly like thorogoods maxwear sole just with Carolina in the middle. I think they are more comfortable than my thorogoods and unfortunately thorogood upped their pricing recently to over 250$
I purchased a CA 1816 boot, made in America last year. I love them so much that I was going to get a pair for my son, but I see they are discontinued. I wrote Carolina and they confirmed they are discontinued. These 1816's are made in the USA and are made very well. They did take a while to break in, but they are worth it. I don't get why Carolina is doing away with this model of boot. It is very disappointing.
This is very sad news to me. Incredibly. I’ve been bragging to my friends about these “AMERICAN” made boots. God damn pitiful shame. But, thanks for bringing this to light. 👍 Edit: not all of them will be Vietnamese? Right? Please say no 😭
I like the CA9824 steel toe logger. I have 5 identical pairs, the last few were marked Made in Vietnam. The fit, quality, and wear are very good. I bought a pair from an aftermarket company that were marked Made in China. The boots were shorter by 1 inch, they fit loose, and the variation in Leather quality in the boots varied within the same boit. I'm going back to buying exclusively from the CAROLINA Boot company itself.
I just bought a pair today and they are made in the USA. Maybe it's the model you bought. They probably have a cheaper line made over seas and the more expensive made in USA. Just get the USA version and you're fine.
Carolina boots told me that they are discontinuing the line of USA made moc toes that I was reviewing. I hope this is wrong, but that was from their company representative. They are a great value when made in the USA, but I will no longer buy them if they continue to make them overseas. Thanks for watching.
Well that's lousy news then. I guess we'll have to buy Thorogood instead. They're supposedly a little better, but the price tag also goes up a bit. I just ordered a pair the other day, but haven't received them yet.
@@Alan_B_Trehern I work at one of Toyota’s plants in the weld shop, and on my feet for 8-10 hours and have no problems with the Thorogood moc toe boots. Mine have the Maxwear Wedge soles. Several people I work with wear the exact same boot. They hood up well for us. Of course Toyota gives us $100 towards boots every year and they have their own shoe store, and they carry Thorogoods. Once they get broken in they are comfortable. The factory insert is removable, which is a plus. I put Superfeet inserts in mine. Also, I could be wrong, but I believe that Carolina was bought out by some corporation several years ago, and the plant in NC was shut down.
@@bluegrassman3040 Thanks for letting me know. I recently purchased the Thorogood mock toe, but I haven't started to wear them yet. They do feel rugged and it's good to know they're going to hold up well for me. 👍
lol buying a cheap $120 pair of boots and trying to say the brand is cheaping out is like saying you bought a McDouble at McDonald’s and were expecting a quarter pounder. Buy cheap boots you get cheap boots. I spent $230 on my Carolinas and was not disappointed.
basically everything you said about these boots can be said about every major work boot company in the USA, it's not just Carolina. .. everyone is going over seas, everyone is making things cheaper. . . it is what it is. . not everyone can afford $300+ boots, which is what it would cost to make a quality boot here in the US.
Carolina still has an all union made in America line. This guy bought their cheaper line and didn’t realize it. Their made in America Moc Toe boots are around $225.00.
No its not "is what it is" its treason and these companies need shut down and raided. They get government loans and hired Americans. And fired all these people. Not only do the companies need raided the CEOs need jailed and their assets go to those they harmed. The day of CuckServatism is over.....
I just ordered from their website. They have the US version and a cheaper outside the US version. I like to see they offer both for some on a budget. I happily paid the extra $75 to support American union labor and for the higher quality.
This video is bunk, those aren't the made in USA AMP moc toe carolina boots (the black ones) . You bought the non made in USA version and clearly you didn't buy them from carolina directly because they sent you a return shipping label when you do.
I feel like you should pin a comment correcting yourself or edit the video title or something I mean its 2 ½ hours before 2023 and they still make an American made moc toe for a reasonable price. Maybe they discontinued the exact model you used to buy but they didnt just ship all production over seas.
Nick's boots in Spokane WA. They are pricey but you don't buy off the shelf, they build the boot by hand to your needs. Check out their RU-vid channel.
I’m not sure why you’re complaining. Why should a foreign made boot have American flags on them? Why are you even comparing foreign made Carolinas to domestic? You realize Carolina still offers domestic built boots, right? Those boots are also 50% more expensive. It’s why domestic Carolinas are made with better materials.
So far u can still get the usa models.they are like $234 for the steel toe version tho.the mexico model say mx online when I looked.i hope it's still a option to get the usa model in the future.i will not buy the mx version
I hardly ever get a pair of boots to last more then 2yrs ever, but I also weigh 280lbs. But Carolina boots lost my business years ago because their soles would never last more then a year for me. But I know that's not everyone's experience. I hope these last a decent amount of time for you Patrick.
Nick's boots in Spokane WA. They are pricey but you don't buy off the shelf, they build the boot by hand to your needs. Check out their RU-vid channel.
@@guitstikkustoms4448 I have seen a few videos about them, I would have to try them on first. I have sasquatch feet, size 15 and wide, so a lot of bit designs just don't work for me.
Did the Carolina boots you owned have the wedge soles on them? They could have had the Vibram Christy soles, which wear down fast from what I understand.
well they aren't made in CHYNA! if they were made in CHYNA i'd be mad lmao. seriously bro you can still buy american made carolina boots, and there's nothing wrong with cheaper options...
Daddy probably gave the company to his son and the son said screw the consumers we are now going to move manufacturing to the cheapest place so I can make the largest profits, that way I can have my 3 homes and 2 yachts. It happened with Red Wing and their quality is crap now.
I just bought a pair of CA7012 black moc toe boots made in America the details look exactly like the ones in the middle except for the color. You must have gotten an imitation/ counterfeit?
He didn’t give good information he didn’t get the same boot as the middle CA7011 because he didn’t repurchase the CA7011 which is still made in the USA the information he gave was comparing an American made boot to a non USA boot as if they don’t make boots in America at all anymore
During the time of this video 2 years ago, I was told directly by Carolina that they would not be continuing that line of boots. They have since reinstated the line and now have the American made ones back in stock. This was 2 years ago.
What is a good boot for not replacing but taking to a cobbler for repair? In my experience with boots the tops last nearly forever (on a soft toe). That said is it a practical idea to have the soles replaced?
Nick's boots in Spokane WA. They are pricey but you don't buy off the shelf, they build the boot by hand to your needs. Check out their RU-vid channel. They will rebuild the boot for less than the cost of a new pair of Carolina's or any other boot.
That’s just those boots don’t buy the ones that aren’t made here I just ordered another pair and I’m a met guard guy Iv worn metguards for years had all kinds of brands Carolina ones are the best I broke off metguard and ordered a pair of ferrics just soft toe boots it’s just the ones u got Order these differently it tells u what’s what on the post
They handle temporary water conditions well, but once wet take a very long time to dry and become heavy. The more you wax/oil then, the better they do, but they are still leather boots.
The same thing happened with RedWing and now RedWing boots suck ass. The early ones in the 90's and before were really comfortable with really great soles that easily lasted 7 years and were resoled perfectly and went another 8. My new Carolinas have the flags and no plastic, but I really hope they don't go the way of Redwing in the future. Boots made in China, Vietnam, or any other shithole will never be as good as US made boots. The stitching and fake rubber is what went to hell with RedWing.
@@PreparedPatriotNC Not yet but I did see a few of their offerings. I'm a plumber and I work on steam boilers and controls so I wanted certain features like electrical insulation etc... RedWing didn't have any domestic boots that matched what I was looking for.
Just last year I would have argued with you... unfortunately Carolina boots has let me down. Great price, quality, and USA made apparently don’t go together anymore.Thorogood boots may be the next best option made in America, but the price is significantly higher. Thanks for watching!
super disappointed...... damn..just damn, i dont want anything made in a country we have been to war with especially one that we wasent beating anytime soon.
My CA8821 logger's outer sole delaminated in less than a year .. made in China .. a waste of 170 bucks. on the bright side .. the nice uppers will never wear out, sitting in my basement. 🙃👎
I'm sick of seeing these white crappy soles that wear so fast it's pathetic. Vibram soles were awesome and I have a pair that's about 5 years old and the sole is still in good enough condition with tread left. Try that with those crap white soles they try to claim are more comfortable but definitely aren't in my opinion. The only thing good about the white soles to me is that they make it an easy choice not to buy. I don't buy the more comfort crap either since I have both. I find the 5 yo vibram every bit as comfortable as the 1 yo white sole shoes which are wearing fast barely wearing them. People, don't be careful about falling for the more comfort so they'll wear super fast crap. Vibram soles are very comfortable and last sooooooo much longer.
Everyone is trying to get rich off of gimmicks and garbage. There's only so much return year after year you can give to stock holders. That to me is indicative of an economic collapse. before buy NOS and very lightly worn boots. I'm a boot collector. If you go on ebay you can find $400 boots for under $100. You just have to know what to look for. Some of the most quality boots don't even have labels. That's how it was in the 1940s and 50s these are USA cobbler handmade made boots that can be resoled 80 years later. No "man made" or artificial materials besides the rubber sole. There rare as hens teeth but most people don't know what they have.
If they are actually discontinuing them then I suggest thorogood boots. Made in USA. Extremely similar construction. Also you can have your old Carolinas resoled by a good cobbler. Also whites boots has their Perry boot that is regularly put on sale for 20% off.
@@budjiman1 I'm referring to their moc toe boots which are made in the US. Also since my original comment was posted new options have come to the market that are a much better buy including the Franks Patriot at $350 and handmade in Spokane Washington or if made in USA isn't a priority the Drew's Boots Logger for $350 which is made in Leon Mexico but is incredibly well made and comfortable. While they are more expensive than the Thorogoods or the Carolinas in the video the Frank's and the Drew's are worth the added expense.
@@budjiman1 Also the Perry boot from whites that I recommended is in fact only bottomed in the US with the uppers being made in the Dominican Republic which is quite disappointing because they are marketed as made in the US.
I got mine like 6 months ago and they were the middle pair... where did you buy your new pair, they look like a cheap knockoff or something haha also they say assembled in America .. not all parts are made in America even before
Made in America. . . . I need those little American flags on all of my clothing Chippewa boots had them , I went to buy a new pair, no flags! I had to have an older pair of Chips boots rebuilt Are we not making boots in America no more, I mean these are our feet, my feet are not made in Vietnam , just sayin
They are actually not bad. I wear them, and they have held up fairly well. I just prefer made in America, and the quality difference wasn’t worth the price saved.
