Beyond the Hints on Ancestry.com and FamilySearch.org 

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@@GenealogyTV I did have a stroke of luck, only one courthouse fire. But it was in the county we came from, the migrant to the county came before 1844. A fire in 1869 destroyed every deed except one. My 4th greats. The residence listed was 200 miles SE in the same state, so they went west then back east, so I feel it was meant to be found. Thanks for doing these videos, very informative. I hope more get interested in finding their ancestors, we began in 1977, this man being a Wall until we found that deed. We learned we aren't Hannah/Hanna nor Scottish, but Swiss French through Wales with children of the Swiss Reformers. Another thing learned was many who claim German National from the Rhineland are more than likely Swiss migrants. Thanks again.

Well SB, I try to create videos that appeal to everyone. I was hoping that everyone could get some new tidbit out it... but I guess you're experience was beyond this video. Maybe next time. Thanks for the kudos.

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Thank you Neta Jane Doris. And thanks for supporting the channel.

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I just want to thank you for your continued support. You may get this message a couple of times as I'm trying to clear out old comments... but I do appreciate you.

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Hi Mark, I'm not sure if you're looking to hire a professional or you're talking about online paid software like Ancestry. I'm assuming you're talking about services like Ancestry. Here is a video that might help ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dmMKKzYZ4Tc.html

Val, I'm not sure if I'll be a Rootstech or not. I'm dying to go, but hubby has been sick, so I don't know where he'll be by then. If I do go, it will be a last minute decision.

@@GenealogyTV I hope your hubby gets better.

@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Thank you.

Thanks Connie I learned some good hints. But my family is from Spain and I'm having difficulty finding information on them. Where should I go to find more?

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Great question. Changing your privacy settings... start in the tree view,... (below is from the support page)... In your tree, click the tree name menu and select Tree Settings. On the Tree Settings page, select the Privacy Settings tab. Select Public Tree or Private Tree. If you're making your tree private and want to prevent it from being found in searches, select Also prevent your tree from being found in searches in the Private Tree section. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.

I'm not sure what you're asking. Are you talking about the editing software maybe?

@@GenealogyTV sorry to be confusing. but on your video you showed your screen page and then drew a red box around it. I wondered how you did that. does that help

Someone simply downloaded and the re-uploaded the items making them look like they originally shared it.

Agreed! I get so frustrated when people download and re-upload the images because it takes away the link to the people who truly did post items originally.

While this is frustrating, keep in mind that this loss of attribution can happen if the person uses genealogy software that syncs their tree with Ancestry. If they experience a corrupted file and have to re-upload the tree to Ancestry from a backup on their computer, Ancestry strips this attribution. Not to excuse the practice because I NEVER download or save anything from other Ancestry trees; however, many people started creating their own copy when they found that the original uploader of the image or document had removed it and then anyone who had saved it via the proper way in Ancestry were left with a generic placeholder image and no longer had access to the item they had linked to. This led many to save their own copy. Again, I’m not excusing it, but rather explaining why this tends to happen. This is also the reason you will see that someone has re-uploaded it but if you check the description, many thoughtful researchers will give credit to the original member who uploaded it.

FamilySearch.org and Ancestry.com are not the same company. This is why I'm talking about using both for your research... as a strategy to further your search results. You'll find different records on each of them... and keep in mind that on Ancestry it is your tree... on FamilySearch it is one shared tree. On FamilySearch others could change what you put up there if they have evidence suggesting different data. If you have a tree at Ancestry.com, it is only you and those you allow to change it (like a contributor or editor permission level) can change it.

Kathy, when you do a search for records for someone in your tree, AND you already have matching records for that person, there is a greenish box toward the top of the search results that shows the Smart Filtering On/Off. If you don't already have records for that person, then you might not see the greenish box with the Smart Filter in the upper right corner of the box. Turning off the Smart Filter, might get additional results as I showed in the video. I hope that answered your question.

You can see that I'm talking about at 3:00 minutes into that video.

I would not focus too much attention on any ethnicity estimate that is so small. Instead, follow the cousin matches and their trees... for clues. You'll want to focus on 4th cousins or closer.

I have a lot of Danish heritage and what I've done in the past is created a cheat sheet of common words that are seen in Danish records. Also, I was lucky enough to make some DNA cousin connections (on Facebook) who are Danish, living in Denmark who translated some for me. However, if you read the words and spell them out and then go to Google Translate, that's where I was able to get most of mine done. At least you get the general gist by doing that. Lastly, I bought a couple of Danish to English dictionaries... this one.... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-792WHKBIOy4.html and this one... amzn.to/2RT5BdH. Of the two books, I like the first one better. Full disclosure, those are affiliate links... but doesn't cost you anything extra. If I find an good expert on Danish research, I will happily do a video on it. While I've got experience in it, I'm not an expert.

@@GenealogyTV thank you. If I can read it I can translate about 75% of it. My problem is that I can tread it since it's in that Old Gothic handwriting. Wiki has cheat sheets but I need to find a source for the docs to be straight read. Maybe a future video?!?! Love your videos - thanks!!!!!

In some areas yes. I mentioned it in this video. If you look in the gallery of an ancestors profile and drill into the photo or record you uploaded, look on the right side... it will show you who saved that record.

Both FamilySearch and Ancestry have print options. Just be careful about how much you print because family trees can be huge and thus will tile the print causing you to tape together a bunch. For Ancestry there is print button on the upper right side. For FamilySearch it's under the Options button on the right side. You can also print the individual profiles of your ancestors.

Also on Ancestry support.ancestry.com/s/topic/0TO1C0000009bQCWAY/printing-family-trees

Start looking on FamilySearch.org. If it's not there, check with the county in which he was born.

Keep digging. You’ll find it.

They may have downloaded them for their files and then when they uploaded and attached them to their own, it appears like they’re the original source. Happens to me all the time.

@bigwaverider I don't mind people attaching my research, etc., to their trees -- in fact, I want them to! I would want people to be that helpful to me. But I'm less okay with it when people have downloaded photos I have the original copies of (and was the original poster of) and then re-uploaded them so that it looks like they own the originals. I can't quite say why this bugs me so much, except I feel rather protective of those precious old photos.

Let me preface this that I NEVER copy anything at all from other trees, but I do know of multiple reasons why this loss of attribution happens other than the reason covered already where people download, save, and re-upload. While this is a frustrating thing to happen for many people, keep in mind that this loss of attribution can happen if the person uses genealogy software that syncs their tree with Ancestry. If they experience a corrupted file and have to re-upload the tree to Ancestry from a backup on their computer, Ancestry strips this attribution and makes it appear as if this person is the originator. Not to excuse the practice because I NEVER download or save anything from other Ancestry trees; however, many people started creating their own copy when they found that the original uploader of the image or document had removed it and then anyone who had saved it via the proper way in Ancestry were left with a generic placeholder image and no longer had access to the item they had linked to. This led many to save their own copy. Again, I’m not excusing it, but rather explaining why this tends to happen. This is also the reason you will see that someone has re-uploaded it but if you check the description, many thoughtful researchers will give credit to the original member who uploaded it. A good clue to see who the best bet of the original contributor of the material is look at the oldest upload date. Oftentimes, this is the person that originally submitted the item(s).

Don't be so quick to call it a "false positive." I suspect that if you have cousin matches that are more than say 6cM, then think again. They are likely very real DNA cousins. Keep in mind that you may not understand the connection... but somewhere there may have been an unknown relationship that resulted in your cousin matches. Go to dnapainter.com/tools/sharedcmv4 and type in the shared cM and look at the possible relationships. Use this on both persons that you say are not in your genetic tree (typing their cM in as separate runs) and see if you can figure out their relationship to you. It could be they're half cousins of some sort. At 400 cM DNA Painter says the relationships could be 75.02%Great-Great-Aunt / Uncle Half Great-Aunt / Uncle Half 1C 1C1R Half Great-Niece / Nephew Great-Great-Niece / Nephew. 400 cM is significant. Hope that helps.

@@GenealogyTV I just think it's weird that one person is at 524cms and another is at 429 cms. that high a match and no common ancestor to warrant a 1st-2nd cousin match . I guess I'll need to wait until my siblings test and see if they come up on their matches also. I guess I was wondering If I happen to be XYY on my chromosomes and that would explain the anomaly I have in my dna matches.

Darrell, If I understand you correctly, that you're questioning the fact that there is no common ancestor... Keep in mind Ancestry suggests common ancestors based on member trees + data. So if there aren't any members who know who their biological parent is (possibly a mystery to everyone in that circle) then Ancestry is not going to show you a Common Ancestor, because they don't know either. Think of it this way... the entire hint system is based on member trees (user input) in combination with data that is extracted from records. Data alone is likely not going to give you a Common Ancestor. So if no one has connected the dots yet (a true biological parent/child relationship) then the Ancestry algorithm can't show it to you either. Even ThruLine's is using member trees to make assumptions (or "potential ancestors"). It's for the user to analyze and determine if it's right or not. You may need to be the detective here. You have strong cousin matches, somewhere there is an unknown biological relationship. The trick to figuring it out is organization of the DNA, record analysis and a process of elimination method.

@@GenealogyTV I figured it out. non paternal event. I had to rethink everything and look at it from the other person cheating and everything fell in place

Shared centimorgans at that range is not a false positive at all. Glad you figured out that it was an NPE that was tripping your research up.

Source is typically where or who it came from. The record is the document.

@@GenealogyTV Well, that makes sense. Thank you! :)

It is a community tree so its info is only as good as the genealogist who put it there. Where the real gold is in the records. The tree is great for clues.

@@GenealogyTV ok thank you. I put in my parents, grandparents and great grandparents and it filled in the rest. But I don't know if they have it right, because it's showing I'm a descendant of the royal families of Europe. 🤷‍♂️

Start with yourself and work backwards carefully examining all the records. Often others in the records such as witnesses and such help tie the family together as a cluster or community. This is what Cluster Genealogy a.k.a. the FAN Club is all about. See my videos on FAN or Cluster research to help understand the concept. Here's one on the FAN club ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Pf-66EkobC4.html and here's one using census records to organize the connections but it can be done with any types of records. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tMkAWEMb79M.html

@@GenealogyTV My ex started me on ancestry.com on 2001 and now I have a little over 20, 000 people. What is bad is I do have duplicate individuals which contributes to maybe a couple thousand that I am combining. My Question: My mother had me out of wed lock. Since it was Sixties it wasn't acceptable so I was moved away from the family and isolated. I'm in my Fifties but before I die are there anyways to figure out who my father is? I'm also certain he is deceased so would 123 and me Heritage help? I did do Ancestry DNA got excited that I might get a match of a brother or sister just plenty of cousins. Then there are circles in Ancestry to link up too but I'm afraid of doing that but I'd like too. I mean I'm related to George Washington, Ben Franklin, Grover Cleveland my one relative Philip Arcularius used to do a weekly radio show and his grandfather was good friend with George Washington. My mom never introduced me. I'm just looking for any websites that can help me find the ID of my dad.

@@deborahleroy5323 I'm not a pro (yet) but I have been working on things like this in my family - mainly Scandinavian, which has a whole set of other naming headaches - but also with my spouse's line. My suggestion, basic as it is, is to first take a look at your birth certificate. The father's name is usually there, but sometimes it isn't. You can see, though, if your surname matches your mother's or is different. If it's different, you may have been given the surname of your father. If it's your mother's maiden name, and no father listed, then you may want to see if there is any note about whether you were a preemie or full-term. This helps establish a time frame for when your mother would have been in contact with the man, and so with that in mind, look at your mother's travels or if you have family still around, records of family vacations, etc. That can help narrow down geography for searching. It's all a matter of linking one piece of documentation to another. I find a lot of extremely good information in the archived newspapers at GenealogyBank, which helped me finally differentiate between a father and son who were both married to women with the same first name and had children with similar names - both families living in the same Iowa town, too. Your situation sounds similar to one of mine. One of my great-grandmothers was the product of such a union. The father's name is on her birth certificate and that he was born in Canada, but that's all we know. Even she knew little else, as her mother had run away from home and returned about 18 months later to the family home with a newborn (my great-grandmother). Our search here for who he is is perhaps starting to pan out. The location of her birth was a railroad hub, and there were family members working for the railroads at the time. The family had come from Norway via Quebec, then down into Michigan, and sort of "met up" in one specific area of Wisconsin. I looked at where the railroad lines ran - easiest way for a 15 year old to flee, I figured - and where they connected. One line went from the town where she was born to a town near the Michigan- Canada border. There are a few men in that area's city directories and census records with the correct age range, name, and nationality, but they are all married. Doesn't rule them out though. And I found a listing for a woman with her mother's name as "servant" in the home of one of the Canadian relatives. I wondered if she had gone to stay with some she knew, met the man there, or what. We have a single photo and know where it was taken of the couple, could be a wedding photo, but the town (where I have been often) is indeed along the railway. No other mark except the photographer's studio. I've been a pro photographer and started studying historical dating of old photos, and since I found a city directory with that studio listed, I'm fairly confident the location is correct and we know it is my great-great-grandmother. The mystery man is the missing Canadian, we believe. I tell you the story because my grandfather died in 1997, having always wondered who his grandfather was. We have part of his family traced back to 932 C.E. (I am currently working on attaching documentation and verifying that part of the family scroll) but having things just STOP with no idea as to his maternal grandfather was frustrating to him and to his mother, who never knew her father. Just the name. In good Norwegian tradition, she had been fostered as a child, so she simply adopted the foster parents' surname as her own rather than what is on her birth certificate. Meanwhile, through tracing the movements of her mother in the newspaper clippings and matching them to known family members, we know she was referring to herself as a "Mrs." even though we have nothing to show she and this man were ever married. Out of wedlock births were unremarkable and relatively common where she came from, but she may have quickly learned after coming here from there as a youngster that the culture here was not so forgiving. If so, she may simply have started using his name, unmarried, figuring he'd never know as he was too far away. (Or with the REAL Mrs.) It all becomes a detective case. Learn about your mother's movements, interests, travels. Even in the 1960s, unless she had a negative encounter with a stranger, she likely met your father someplace often enough (shared interests? Check membership directories, etc) to grow close and eventually you came along. But if you know where you were born, or have a pretty good guess, check with the clerk at vital statistics in that county to get a copy of your birth certificate if you don't have one. If one cannot be found, check for infant religious documentation such as baptism records which might also contain clues. Good luck!

@@rarmccoy My birthcertificate is ripped up I have one tiny pc. In that pc Father's name was left blank but my mother had changed my first name 2xs before she decided on my first name. There is family but we have never met most of the family that might remember my mother or what happened are deceased their living children don't know or ever heard of me . The idea to look into her interest is good. I do know she along with my grandmother was a member of the Eastern Stars but of coarse that's all women. I did count back 9 months and look around the time I was conceive to see if it was a date/stranger rape and have not found anything. I'm thinking it was a friendly encounter . I was very hopefully when I took the Ancestry DNA test but that too turn into a dead end because my father either had no other children , they are deceased or haven't taken the Ancestry DNA test because I have no exact matches. They could be listed on another site too so all hope isn't lost. I can share my results on other sites through Ancestry but I want to read before I commit. Yes I had subscribe to News Papers.com and after 10 years of searching learn the death date and place of my Great Great Greatgrandmother. She wasn't where I thought she was either she died in N. New Jersey and I had her in Indianapolis Indiana. How off was I??? Thanks PS G.Bank is awesome very good site. I like LDS family search too ( since its free)