BeyondATC - The new ATC REVOLUTION? Let's FLY and find out! Munich - Cologne | Real Airline Pilot 

I'm a retired commercial pilot and a former Vatsim participant . I left Vatsim because of the problems with controllers, pilots and the entire network. Although not perfect now, this is a refreshing alternative. Looking forward to future enhancements and upgrades. Thanks for the video.

Emi, you need to contact them and see if you can be one of the Guest voices. If that happens all buy it for sure my friend.😝😜🤪

8:42 Eminem moment haha

Excellent video! My cat was going crazy trying to "get" the wipers during the taxi-out.

Thank you for sharing in a way we can easily understand. That's brilliant to type the atc instructions on the scratchpad for read back and easy access! Was looking for the link to this A330. Currently in the Fenix A320. Thanks again!

Whilst its not perfect, its definitely been a great addition to my flights. There are some clear areas where it can be improved and it seems the devs are aware of these, and it has already been updated a few times since I first downloaded it so I'm looking forward to seeing what other improvements come soon. Always great to get a professional's insight into this technology though!

My biggest hope for this tool is for it to eventually be able to simulate region-specific oddities outside NA and EU. I would LOVE to be able to do stuff like switching to metric system in China or be required to apply different transponder rules.

Gotta love the asobo wiper effect 😅

A continued positive attitude to constructive criticism and adoption of these where practical will make this a great product. I too am very hopeful.

Did my first flight with Beyond in the TBM today and loved it. Not perfect, but way better then what else is out there for the price.

Hi Emanuel, you are the best sim youtuber, wonderfully useful training videos

Very funny about arriving at the Cologne airport. Thank you for the video, I also think some instructions during my flight were strange, but it is still the best ATC replacement we have certainly accept VATSIM/IVAO

I've done about 2 flights now (in the US only) and I think it's amazing. I had a few issues but nothing major. I know it's only going to get better after they get more community feedback.

lol ASKIK, reminds me of the two ASOLE, one east of Kilimanjaro and the other NE of Addis Ababa

Auf dein video für BATC hab ich gewartet lol. Danke fürs hochladen :)

You sound tired Emi, take care.

Emi, I was really hoping you'd do a review. I've done a few flights and had the same results as you. The phraseology really needs work. And I'm not complaining. Evan as it is, it's a great alternative when Vatsim is offline in the Chicago area. I love it. Glad it wasn't just me with issues. Thanks for reviewing.

Thank you Emanuel ..., i will wait a bit and stay on VatSim :)

Great landing!!

Must be interesting to try! I've never been on vatsim or IVAO because i'm quite shy but that could be an option to practice, although i'm short on money so yk, maybe for another time great video as well btw

I’ve tried quite few flights and apart from odd taxi routings (airports incorrect ?) and being alittle high on finals it’s been really great. I’m using auto respond which is lazy but helps learn use it and works brilliantly. Ofc the speaking back which is huge part of the BATC IM NOT USING BUT SUITS ME FINE. It’s got huge promise and will update/develop quickly now as ppl use and report issues. Thx for video. Premium or basic that’s personal cost choice. I’ve tried both and basic is more than useable. Keeping a copy of all the comms in the BATC window is extremely useful when checking instructions

Hi Emi, Overall I think its a very good product, true it is very raw at the moment, however the potential is huge....and the developers have gone to great lengths to make sure that you know that is early access and not to have expectations too high.. Personally I'm loving it, as someone that is terrified of joining in on Vatsim, it is to me a wonderful training tool, not so much that the procedures are true to life, but just that it gets me used to listening to and following instructions from ATC as well as flying the aircraft and building my confidence. I can see this leading me on to Vatsim in the not too distant future. well worth the $30

Is there a reason you use pushback pro instead of GSX? I really like using GSX. I have the parking sign that tells you what’s going on, how long you have to departure. I like using their pushback a lot. Even lifts it up slowly.

Could you imagine? Cruising FL straight down to the IAF MCA. My goodness, every flight would be a perfect idle continuous descent angle. Here in the states it’s not (usually) quite as bad as it is in the euro FIR’s, it’s typically a descend via (RNAV STAR) when into a larger class Bravo, but we do get lots of amended altitudes and speeds. When not on a STAR it’s similar to Europe where we will get stop altitudes to keep your vertical profile in the current ARTCC airspace and then further down after handover per traffic spacing. The nice thing about flying in the states though is we use 18K msl/FL180 for the transition alt/transition level everywhere and the UIR’s all start at 17,999msl so it makes things a bit simpler. I rather enjoy flying across the pond though, the varying transition altitudes and levels make things a bit interesting. You also seem to fly a lot more published procedural approaches for both precision AND non precision approaches (race track patterns, lots of procedure turns, etc) where here the vast majority of the time it’s gonna be Radar vectors for a straight in here. Of course there are exceptions, but I’m just talking about the majority of the time.

How do you make these videos if you're in your hotel at 5am making them Emi? Assume you also have an RTX powered laptop in addition to your main gaming desktop rig? If you do have a laptop, how do you find it performs with MSFS and the payware aircraft? Thanks!

you have to say 9 - 8 english it dont pick up niner-eight sometimes or other numbers said in aviation tone but getting there

Thanks

29:32 a330 Moment😂

1:03:10 It sound like a combination of ATC and Angry bird 😂

Legendary Livery....

Hello ! is it possible to know where did you buy your computer or where did you assembled it please ? Also, is it necessary to get these specs ? or msfs mainly need a good internet connexion as I heard ?

I was really looking forward to this product and followed the development closely. I have to say that i don't enjoy it at the moment, but i am sure that it will be a great thing in the future. The phraseology is weird, the TOD planning and the altitude clearences are very off, but i bet all these things can and will be changed in the future.

and why you don't you use the Ftsim soundpack? I'm curious... 😄

It’s pretty nice to have BATC as a practice tool since I’m not comfortable flying in the vatsim network yet. My only annoyance is that I always need to repeat my callsign, because it’s unable to read what I’m telling them. I think BATC is an awesome addition for some flight simmers including me. Can’t wait for further updates!

I was in Munich Monday and a big storm hit later in the day when I was leaving towards Innsbruck. Was this that live weather?

hey! I have a question can you hear the cabin announcements from the b737 cockpit ?

If youre using obs you could shiw the whole screen if that could be an option ;)

I miss that airberlin livery (also the classic one) :(

I personally prefer to use Pilot2ATC in combination with XTC-Chatter for XPlane. Still not perfect, but I mainly use this to get used to the phrasiology and the use of radios to prepare myself to fly on VATSIM one day. My impression is that there are no big differences. Although...the voices in this AI application sound more natural.

It's always a pleasure to watch a great review.

When BeyondATC mentioned that you left your planned route and you shall resume own navigation to TABUM: Might it be that somehow BeyondATC was internally expecting that you fly your initially planned route over ASKIK even thou they cleared you DCT TABUM before? So maybe they just told you DCT TABUM but the internal flight plan was not changed?

"Berlin 170 Quebec"... So I've been meaning to ask - what is the significance/reason for callsign differing from a flight number? Example, currently there's a Brussels flight operating from MUC-BRU, flight nr is SN2646, but callsign is BEL8HT.. Thanks!

Btw, u can phonetically spell the Waypoints!!

what kind of headset do you use? any recommandations?

Moin @A330driver, warum hast du kein livestream tun?. aber ein Schön video mein freund!! 👍 👌

Hey. Why do you select Flaps 40 in case of an RTO?

Comment at 1h 1m about no traffic and a made up excuse does not consider the program was completely rewritten last year to handle injected traffic. Just because you are the only aircraft in the sky at the moment doesn't mean the code is making up an excuse. To have it consider you as the only aircraft would mean a regression back to the single user version with uncontrolled traffic.

Interesting program but reminds me somehow to FS2Crew and how i get frustrated when it doesn't understand me, reason why i stopped using it. I think I'll stick with Vatsim for now.

Moin moin und viele Grüße aus EDDM, vielen Dank für das Video. Bin etwas neidisch, dass BATC bei dir besser funktioniert als bei mir. Eine Fehlermeldung jagt die andere, wohl doch etwas zu viel early Stage. Die Ansage bei Wechsel zu Ground ist lustig, das Programm sagt zwar “niner “ versteht aber nur “nine”, probiers mit “nine”, dann kommt auch kein negativ. Respekt für das morgendliche Aufzeichnen im Hotelzimmer 👏 Deine Videos helfen mir immer sehr. Happy flights 🛫✌️

It’ll be interesting to see how the AI handles different regions and accents. There’s too much variance in local procedure, even in a single country, for the program to incorporate them all correctly and I don’t believe that’s a realistic expectation. It probably understands accents better than most humans would. I struggle mightily with German accents and you won’t ever find me on VatSim in Germany as a result. I’ve heard some German transmissions that I know are in English but just don’t register as such with me.

Thanks for sharing. Whose 737 is this?

Is there a way to Update this nav Data? Because for me its Not working for several Airports Like EDDS or EDDK:(

Can't beat the immersion of VATSIM. As real as it gets...

Thanks for reviewing. I need to preface my comment by saying I am not a real pilot. Far from it. Just a casual simmer, so I could TOTALLY be doing a bunch of things wrong, and I'm OK with that. That said, I get mush mouth and trip over my words, and have a super-hard time multitasking. I also have a tendency to... erm.... get chippy with people, if I think they're losing patience or talking down to me, so VATSIM, let's just say, is not for me. So for me this is a good replacement for MSFS's abysmal ATC.... albeit, not exactly a stellar bar to clear.... So far, I've been overall happy. I find from requesting clearance at the gate, through cruise and descent, BATC has been really good. Approach, for me, is where it shits the bed fairly frequently. Occasionally, it keeps me at too high an altitude, or gives me a closed runway. Last night coming into KSEA it made me do circles - not a hold - literal circles. Had to end the flight. Often, I've had to just ignore it and do what I'd normally do until I land, at which point, it does a decent job again. That's OK because it doesn't nag me the whole way to the ground like the default ATC in MSFS does if I have to deviate because I want to, you know... land. From what I've seen, I'm not the only one with approach issues, so hopefully this'll all be ironed out. The "basic" voices are more than enough for me, which is nice, so I won't have constantly buy characters for premium voices. Because I'm a cheapskate. Overall, though, it's not half bad, and I'm excited to see where they go.

"And another one as well"... Someone is sponsored lol.

At the moment, apart from the voices I don’t see what’s the big difference compared to FSHud.

In the RW it's common to have an instruction like "line up and clear for take off" or "line up and wait" or " after the landing traffic line up and wait", I disagree with your comment concerning the line-up.

At the first frequency readback the mighty AI system is already stuck. And the TL is wrong.

I personally think that BATC is a bit too american. I flew out of Munich once and got 26L instead of 26R (flying to Frankfurt) and no SID but rather "fly on runway heading and expect vectors to GIVMI".

Practice engine failures on takeoff. See how well it does

Transition Level 050 … naaaaaaah

What a line up! MSFS in all its glory 😢

The ai is rly stupid now with two and to. It rly fuckes up on any frequencies containing number 2, with nunber 22 its even worse

You're using premium voices. I watched another review video, and the free voices are pretty bad, they are barely understandable. I don't know if they plan to fix that, I sure hope so. At this point those free voices are pretty much unusable.

I think you’re having issues with them understanding you because of your accent. I’ve never had issues with them understanding me, as an American

I did 4 flights now, and there was not a single time when this stupid thing seemed to work properly. Taxiways not valid, radar vectors completely and I mean COMPLETELY messed up.. feels like I just wasted 30 bucks to be an alpha tester yet again on an unfinished product that was overhyped by other youtubers..

If you're going to speak so fast in your briefing, you may as well not bother. Can't understand most of what was said.

Will be intersting how it compares to SayIntentions.

I think that BATC's biggest problem is not using data from Navigraph but from the simulator. This creates a lot of problems.