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BFG 9060 68060 Accelerator for the Amiga review - With a virtual FPU? 

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This week on 10 Minute Amiga Retro Cast I am reviewing the fantastic new 68060 accelerator for the #Amiga 3000 and 4000. Join me as we install it in my A3000 and see how fast she can go!
Please look at Matthias Heinrichs Github all about the BFG 9060
gitlab.com/MHeinrichs/a4000-tk
This is a fantastic resource all about the settings of the card
gitlab.com/tkurbad/amiga-hard...
Where can you get these wonderful cards? Check AmiBay and eBay, or right here!
www.retropassion.co.uk/bfg906...
Check out Thomas Richters new Software FPU! It works pretty darn good!
eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t...
Take a peek at my other #Amiga 3000 videos:
Commodores Best Amiga is the A3000
• Amiga 3000 Adventures:...
The ReAmiga 3000 Review
• The ReAmiga 3000 Mothe...
Upgrading my Amiga 3000 with an A3640 Accelerator
• Upgrading my Amiga 300...
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@HoldandModify
@HoldandModify Год назад
I have one of these for my a4000. However the cpu I have for it currently being “repaired” and once and hopefully it’s fixed, I can finally use this BFG card. Thank you for covering in such detail. Love all the Amiga options we have! We’re fortunate! Also, in my tests, a 68060 with no FPU is around the same speed as a 68020 with FPU.
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
I hope that CPU of yours gets working again. I bet it will. My RC 68060 was broken like that, but Paul fixed it. I will never take her out of the socket, though as I know she would just break again!
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Год назад
Some freaking youtuber bent the pins. Then it showed up at my house
@HoldandModify
@HoldandModify Год назад
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration har hat har!
@curiousottman
@curiousottman Год назад
The a3000 truly is the best Amiga ever made. Always enjoy your videos that contain one.
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
It is such a wonderful machine. Even my 16 MHz version was so fantastic up until it stopped working in 1996 or so.
@joeteejoetee
@joeteejoetee Год назад
Thank you for showing everyone the A3000 MB jumpers, and detailing the (GeniusAuthor!!!) SoftIEEE into the startup scripts. ...but every thing else in this video too@
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
I really like the SoftIEEE - it is such a big help for me! It might get a touch faster and more stable with time.
@byrons8956
@byrons8956 Год назад
I wonder if the Cyberstorm MkIII SCSI INT2 wiring patch would help any other of the A3000 accelerators
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
I may have to look into that!
@mathiasheyer3079
@mathiasheyer3079 Год назад
The INT2 mod is not needed as the BFG9060 doesn't have a SCSI controller onboard that even could generate an INT2
@DikkeBetha
@DikkeBetha Год назад
Forget SCSI2SD. It has been surpassed by ZuluSCSI. I use the latest generation ZuluSCSI, the RP2040 in my A1200 with blizzard 1240T @ 40Mhz + SCSI-Kit IV. It pumps out 5.56 MB/s in Sync SCSI mode (4.42 in Async). It is rock-stable. Write speeds are also very good (Firmware 1.2.0 fixes an issue with write-speeds that earlier firmwares had). I'm putting ZuluSCSI RP2040's in all my Amiga's now. The Zulu kicks bottom!
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
Rats! Now I have to go spend more money on a ZULUSCSI??? I almost bought one from Alex of Inertial Computing during AmiWest this year... I suppose I should get one! The SCSI2SD V6 is finally stable, but faster is better!
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 Год назад
That's nuts!
@metesev
@metesev Год назад
"Only Amiga makes it possible" while "only Doug reviews them throughly"... Thanks for another great video again...
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
Always happy to share knowledge!
@bitbarn
@bitbarn Год назад
Nice jacket.👌
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
It is a Christmas gift from my wife. She gave it to me early!
@andiroemer8180
@andiroemer8180 Год назад
Hi Doug, again a great video! Really enjoyed it! The virtual FPU-Option is quite interesting concerning the huge price differences between a LC and a real RC 060 CPU. The cooling option with your little flat cooling fan with the sideways exhaust is also very useful für TF1260 inside a an A1200, i suppose. Do you have an (affiliate) link for ths little fan? Where can I buy it?🤗
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
Thanks! The Soft IEEE is a big help for sure to get some of my software working without reinstalling everything. It is maybe as fast as a 68881 running at 7 Mhz or so, but it does the job. I got the fans on Amazon. RU-vid freaks out with links so do a search for this: Wathai 30mm x 10mm 5V Small DC Brushless Cooling Blower Fan
@retrotechtive
@retrotechtive Год назад
Got a blank board to build of one of these, only haven't started it as I expected some of the parts to be unobtainium right now. Now I see you using it though, my soldering iron hand is twitching... 😁
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
Oh it is a nice board for sure! Is it the Xylink chips that are hard to get?
@retrotechtive
@retrotechtive Год назад
​@@10MARC That was my main concern - although I admit I haven't checked recently. On most of my projects over the last year, I've been surprised at how difficult even some ordinary components are to find too - though that seems to be easing of late. I'll check a bit later today I think - here's hoping!
@kavanoz64
@kavanoz64 Год назад
@@retrotechtive You can contact me (kavanoz) and I can send you the missing parts. You can get my info from Chris Edwards’ BFG video
@retrotechtive
@retrotechtive Год назад
@@kavanoz64 Wow, thank you very much! :)
@timdaeleman
@timdaeleman Год назад
In case you didn't know, WHDLoad comes with startup and shutdown scripts where you can disable & enable network & usb ( in S:). No need to do that manually.
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
Oh for sure. I just don't bother because my Amiga 1200 is six feet away! I just use that or my Amiga 600 instead
@GadgetUK164
@GadgetUK164 Год назад
Really nice CPU card =D
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
Yes, I am quite impressed with it so far!
@JamonyorkeRecords
@JamonyorkeRecords Год назад
Hi Doug! Which version of the fastlane z3 have you got? According to bigbookofamigahardware , cards older than v2.4 (with firmwares which have not been updated to >=8.0) seem to have problems with the 68060. Could this be the issue?
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
I have the 8.0 update - a friend of mine flashed one for me! Those boards are just plain weird. Work fantastic with some things, totally fail with others
@stevenoldham1471
@stevenoldham1471 Год назад
Hi just stumbled upon your videos I'm having a little trouble loading floppys on the 600 keeps saying read error block 1402 would appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction thanks great videos too!
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
Thanks for stumbling upon my channel! RU-vid is a poor place for corresponding, but please contact me either via one of my Social Media links or via Email - you can find that under "About" on my main RU-vid Page.
@curiousottman
@curiousottman Год назад
Do you have dmacontrol running in your startup sequence to ensure that your Fastlane z3 uses its onboard ram with your scsi2sd card? It will greatly improve your hard drive performance.
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
Oh really? No, I do not. But when I use the card again I will have to try it.
@curiousottman
@curiousottman Год назад
@@10MARC : I'll send you an email with the programs and the script you can run to optimize the Fastlane Z3.
@jameshenry8015
@jameshenry8015 Год назад
I ran a stock A3640 in my A3000 for 6 or 7 years with no problems. I hope that old 3000 still works, it looks to be in excellent shape.
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
They are so funny that way. Some people have zero issues with accelerator cards in their A3000 and some people have weird SCSI problems. I hope your A3000 is still working!
@jameshenry8015
@jameshenry8015 Год назад
I know some people have had problems. Strange thing is, my 3000 is a relatively early one and the original SCSI Quantum LPS 105 drive worked fine right up to the end of that machine's use. In fact it still worked last year when I backed it up to a CF card with my Warp 4040 in an A4000! That backup works fine in WinUAE on a peecee.
@a4000t
@a4000t Год назад
@@jameshenry8015 you know u can convert the warpengine to 060/96mhz right?
@jameshenry8015
@jameshenry8015 Год назад
@@a4000t I recall reading something about that a while back, but I have a Cyberstorm 060 and a PPC/060 so I really don't need to hack the WarpEngine 040. The PPC/060 is in my A4000T so the 3000 will get either the Warp or CS 060, haven't decided yet.
@a4000t
@a4000t Год назад
@@jameshenry8015 nice!
@manueljesus3147
@manueljesus3147 Год назад
The SoftIEEE doesn't work for me. It does display an FPU when used with my sans FPU 060 but FPU software won't work.
@manueljesus3147
@manueljesus3147 Год назад
for example lightwave floating point crashes
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
Interesting. Which version of Lightwave are you using? I can see if it does the same for me. The EAB thread in my description is where Thomas looks at the issues with his software being incompatible. So far I haver had good luck with it. It is not fast, but is about equal to maybe a 14 Mhz 68882 or so.
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Год назад
The new firmware allows the onboard scsi in 50 mhz and maybe in 100
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
Oh I see! I wonder what Firmware my card has. I received it in the middle of November so it must be pretty recent. No SCSI at 75 MHz?
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Год назад
@@10MARC no 75mhz, if i have the newer firmware on mine, it is possible you have it too
@DikkeBetha
@DikkeBetha Год назад
Hi Doug, small question: you are using the A3000's original SCSI Controller with the BFG and you had no issues with it since creating this video? No data corruption or other issues? Tnx. By the way, if you search eBay for "Amiga 3000 led" you will find several people offering LED replacements. Tip 2: solder a Jumper-header onto the ZuluSCSI RP2040 and connect the HDD LED to it.
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
No, the onboard SCSI does not work reliably with the BFG9060. I get corruption and checksum errors after about four days. Oddly, my 16 MHz A3000 board seemed to work with my 68040 card fine, but my new ReAmiga 25 MHz board does not. I might swap the Ramsey and DMAC chips between my two boards and see if I can stabilize the ReAmiga, since that's the board I use
@DikkeBetha
@DikkeBetha Год назад
@@10MARC Bummer :-( You also have an A3660 "remake" (quasi a v3.3) card (by John Hertell) am I right? Does that work accelerator work reliably with the A3000's onboard skuzzi ? I'm about to pull the trigger on a freshly built A3660/3640 with a 33 or 40Mhz 040 running at a cool 25Mhz (I refuse to go the 060 route).
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
@@DikkeBetha No. I only have two A3640 cards. I never got the A3660 because they would have such slow access to onboard RAM.
@classicarcadeamusementpark4242
@classicarcadeamusementpark4242 6 месяцев назад
Interesting, but I'd like to see a comparison to the Amiga WinUAE emulator with 68060 emulation. I recently sold my last of four Amiga's as I've switched from the original hardware to the free WinUAE software emulator. I'm thrilled it runs everything I've tried on it really well. It can run from the original Amiga 1000 with Kickstart 1.1 to the latest AGA system with all kinds of enhancements. I'm running off a 19" CRT RGB arcade monitor, so I have an authentic picture and hi-res flicker free. I was a big fan of the Amiga since getting the Amiga 1000 when it first came out. I became President of an Amiga users group in 1986, and I eventually got an Amiga 2000HD 68030 system with Video Toaster, 11 megs of ram, duel SCSI drives and more. Plus an Amiga 1200 when it came out and a 2nd Amiga 1000. I even upgraded my original Amiga 1000 with the now rare Expert Systems Rejuvinator board. I'm amazed more people don't try to PC software emulation route. It's an excellent alternative to the original hardware, and a lot cheaper too. It's like have all versions of the Amiga for free, and without taking up the space.
@10MARC
@10MARC 6 месяцев назад
Emulation of course is faster than real hardware, but many of us truly love to collect and use the original hardware. The biggest collectors and users of Amiga's already use WinUAE for many reasons. I have it on several machines, but use it for testing and sometimes for data transfer to the real thing. A good analogy would be collecting classic cars. You could get a driving emulator and collect pics of that 57 Chevy, or you could own one. I truly enjoy doing things on and pushing the limits of my real hardware. It just feels better than firing up an emulator to me, personally.
@classicarcadeamusementpark4242
@classicarcadeamusementpark4242 6 месяцев назад
@@10MARC I get what your saying, but I'm not sure that is a good comparison to a picture of a car though. Sure there is nostalgia to seeing and using the real hardware vs a software emulator, but at the end of the day, why did we buy our Amiga's in the first place? For most of us.....to run the software. Maybe to play some games and various other things. The emulator provides the ability to do the same thing and run Amiga software, only the physical box doing it is different, but the results are almost identical. Well, if you have it running on an RGB CRT as I do. I also have adapters to use original game controllers if I want, but I generally prefer using arcade machine joysticks. Back in the day, the Amiga for me was also running my games, my multi-media video production software/tools and especially for software synths with MIDI keyboards. Video has switched from our NTSC and PAL standards to digital HDTV, so I'd rather use modern software tools for making videos as you probably do, but I had a Video Toaster setup back in the day. Obsolete now for most of us. Not many making NTSC or PAL videos today. And while the Amiga MIDI soft synths were revolutionary, today's VST synths on my PC are far superior. And the online stuff I did with my Amiga terminal emulators and modems have been replaced by the Internet and I prefer what PC's today can do for that. So it's mostly games that are left for me. What other kinds of software are you running on your Amiga's today, and why do you use Amiga's for it vs a modern PC or Mac? While I'm not overly nostalgia about having the actual physical hardware, I'm not at all satisfied with Amiga software running on a modern LCD screen. It looks totally different, and except for business software, it looks a lot worse for display graphics than a nice Amiga 1080 RGB CRT. Fortunately I'm able to use an RGB CRT with the WinUAE emulator and get an authentic picture. If I could have used the WinUAE emulator to run Amiga software in the 80s I would have. The reasons for owning real Amiga hardware disappeared for me. But I do understand the nostalgia of it for some people. If I had unlimited room and money, I would have kept all my vintage machines just for the memories. But in truth, with great software emulators, I really don't miss it.The Amiga lives on for me, just in a different physical form the same way as movies and music has changed physical forms for most of us from vinyl LP records and VHS video tapes to CD's, Blu-Ray's and online streaming. At the end of the day, the movies and albums are still pretty much the same. The players and physical media have changed.
@rogerandrelassen3355
@rogerandrelassen3355 Год назад
Doubleclicking on files in the requester. Just try it ;-)
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
In which requester?
@rogerandrelassen3355
@rogerandrelassen3355 Год назад
Every amiga requester :-) when you're trying to open a file. Doubleclick the file you want to open instead of choosing the file & clicking open :)
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
@@rogerandrelassen3355 oh I got you! It's just habit really.
@3viis
@3viis Год назад
Overclock it!
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
I may take this one up to 75 MHz. I do worry about the heat, though. She is so nice and cool at 50 MHz.
@3viis
@3viis Год назад
@@10MARC She'll be fine with a fan. I have 060@62Mhz on TF1260 without cooling. No problems.
@10MARC
@10MARC Год назад
@@3viis My 68RC060 in my A4000 is overclocked to 66 Mhz and she is like an oven. I think it is a Gen 1 chip, though. I think those ran hot. My LC Chip is newer and probably will work fine at 75 Mhz.
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