Mud or All Terrain? We tested both tyres for 35000Km's and this is our thoughts on these tyres #explore #tyres #offroad Ko Vs KO2 • BFGoodrich KO2 35000Km...
Its like an illustration of annoying presenter techniques. Makes it hard to follow his message. Almost as bad as those guys who keep waiving their hands in front of the lense.
How on earth do you do "tyre... Reviews" and say some bs like that? What tin can were you born in ¯\_(ツ)_/¯🤣 So, let me help here. They are making tires better and BETTER! I had a set of Hercules Trail Diggers MT. I'll admit it when I 1st saw them. I just knew they wouldn't last. I do a lot of highway driving. I had them for 4 years. I only put 62K on them. They went WITH the Jeep when I sold it. They had a good 10k left. They were some bad ass tires!!!
When I worked at an independent tire dealer, I was fortunate enough to attend a BF Goodrich ride and drive event at Rod Hall's offroad driving school in Nevada. One of the things they showed us is just how much better all-terrains were in almost every situation save for deep mud. All terrains are much more resistant to treadface punctures than mud-terrains because they have much less void areas. Also, all terrains spit out dirt/gravel/mud/snow behind them, whereas mud terrains carry this up and over the tire, depositing it back in front of the tire. Overall result? Mud terrains dig down faster than they repel you forward, causing you to get mired. I used to be a mud terrain fanboy, until that trip. Ever since, I've been an all-terrain guy, and never looked back.
I'll definitely be sticking with my ko2's. 2 years and 20k+ miles and I still have 7/32. They're ok when it does get muddy here in Arizona, but in the dry dirt, rocks, wet roads and snow they're fantastic. I always reccomend them to people.
I’m running KO2’s on a 2018 VDJ LC76 here in Costa Rica. The KO2’s are amazing as they are very quiet and give loads of traction. I love mud tires but they only last 30,000kms here with the heat and moisture.
Good honest review. I might only use my 4x4 for 5% off road but, when I go off road at least I know my car is safe to tackle anything I want to throw at it. So all terrains might go double the distance but when they let you down that one time, you’ll hate yourself for putting them on..
I have the all terrains on my Tacoma and they are great most of the time but when you hit any kind of mud they turn into a slick. Hence now I’m getting a winch and probably a second set of wheels with bfg mud terrains
I have a set of KO2 ‘s on my F250 powerstroke and one input I would give is the ko2’s are wonderful in the snow. They are one of the few all-terrain tires that have a snowflake rating and they work great
I own 2 full size trucks. One has KM2's and the other has the new KO2's. The KO2's are surprisingly good for most conditions and as was stated are much quieter. I think another consideration is tire size. Even though my vehicles are both lifted 4 inches over stock I chose a modest size tire instead of the biggest thing I could fit under the fenders. I recommend the new KO2's in the proper size for the vehicle. Just my 2 cents....
Great review, thanks. 35X12.5x15" KM2's on my 2003 HiLux, 98% road work, 60,000 km's and only half worn, quiet as a mouse, can drive past pedestrians without them looking up. Great grip on the highway as with off road. Would certainly buy them again.
Have the KM3`s ...not a fan, they`re loud rock magnets. Constantly picking rocks put of the tread, sounds like I`m tap dancing half the time. Fan of the brand, just not this particular tire.
I love the bfg all terrains, they are incredible tires. BUT, I run a mud tire, because I prefer to know I am going to get through whatever shit I might encounter. the all terrains plug right up immediately. nobody runs off-road tires for the long-life, they want a tire that looks good and will get them through the worst stuff. I ran swampers on my bronco exclusively, and yeah, the +40C pavement summers were torture on them, but, they got me through anything that I ever encountered.
Put KO2s on my ride. They've done an amazing job on dirt, mud, slippery water crossings, snow, slush, deep soft sand, and all the pavement in between from driving from coast to coast in Canada/US. Next tire is definitely going to be a KO2!
Great review man! I was going to buy the mud terrains for a little off road use but not as much as they’ll be used for driving back and forth to work. Thank you for changing my mind and having me stick with the KO2s
great advice - I was considering KM3's (because they look awesome) but your advice is clear as to the driving I do so KO2's are more applicable - will be going with that gain
During your time in the UAE/OMAN and generally the gulf desert, the locals use balloon sand tires. They come commonly in 9.00-16 and 9.00-17 sizes. What's your opinion on them, why are they so popular? are they a good choice?
I use KO2 on Land Cruiser 100. (285/75R16) Tires are very very durable, however they can slip on wet asphalt or behavior on snow is also average. Overall, I am happy with them 🙂
@@kingofhearts4395 can have serious cracking and you might doubt it from the looks but you will be surprise how the side wall manages intense and deep cracking.. even after leaving one tire flat. Sun of AZ cracked it. I aired it thinking it was gonna be junk.. and it held its air for a few days even though it has nails as well. . That’s why I’m here debasing if I should go with KM3s knowing how really really good the KO2s really are
For highway driving and wet tarmac, I use Cooper AT3s, best AT tyre I ve ever used. They performed really well in snow as well. My 80 series Land Cruiser didn't do well on slippery surfaces whilst braking with the KO2s. I have a 200hp boosted diesel and the AT3s grip the road really well. For rock crawling and on mountain tracks, I use KM3. I'd also rate the Cooper STT Pros up there with the KM3s, that's a solid tyre as well. Both perform excellent in mud. Can't go wrong with either.
I have used bf Goodrich for several decades and I wanted to save $ when my diesel truck needed new rubber. I bought copper mud tires and hate them. My jeep also had cooper sst s on them. I still have 50% tread on them but took them off due to terrible driving quality and bought bf ko 2 even though I drive off road on a regular basis.
I had KO2s on my JL and struggled with grip on wet road conditions and felt downright dangerous in heavy rain! Road noise was better than expected but they got increasingly louder after 30k miles! They were excellent while off-roading tho!
I have a set of General Grabber ATx that will be needing replaced soon. Looking for a different set that will have better tread life. I pull 7-14k trailers 90% of the time with my Silverado 2500HD. Mostly around town, occasional freeway but also on gravel and dirt roads. What would you recommend?
I run KO2s load range E on my 2500 Silverado HD and pull a 25 ft gooseneck 15-18k and a 14ft gooseneck dump. I am getting great wear. But I have always been a BFG customer and swear by them best tires I've ever used
My bfs ko2 on my Hilux use it's as my daily driver......has had 70708km or 44000 miles roughly that's 2yrs 9 months in East Africa Kenya never used my spare... I go off-road as much as on tarmac, haul stuff like farm supplies, building supplies ,go on trips, recover stuck cars..... Love love bfs.....wouldn't change it for anything....if only I could show mine or give it to you sir for demonstration..😂😂, they are on there last legs.... Slow punctures and stuff...
Not much call for desert driving here in the UK but I can tell you 100% from first hand experience, in fresh deep snow there ain't much difference between the two but in hard and icy snow, the KO2 is infinitely better. I wouldn't fit muds in the UK in winter because I have seen too many people lose control on them on icy roads. KO2 in a different league. Just my 2p worth.
I've had ko2s on my truck for 2 years now going all over alabama and traveling back and forth to central Florida and they still have 30% of tread still left! I will definitely buy them again!
@Rjr J atleast 55,000 if your not going alot of highway back and forth burning rubber you'll probably get more than that to be honest! I just changed them about 3 months ago and I LOVED THEM
@Rjr J honestly brother my trucks on a 6" lift with 35s haha I'm not able to save gas, but they would be great if your looking for an all terrain tire that is a beast!
The only issue I can think about on KO2's is the wet performance on the blacktop is on sub-par with the counterpart, other than that, all good and I love it.
I loved this review I personally use km2 on my 4runner, and I love them. I feel that the noise on the road is low, and above all, it has very resistant side walls for dirt, stone and rough roads. My use is 60% pavement and 40% Offroad. I love BF and have only been using BF tires for at least 5 years. I invite you to see the last videos of my channel "Enrutados Chile", and see the last videos "Altiplano Chile" and "Aventura hacia el río Silala con viento blanco"
Just excellent...thevmost excellent review of the two tyre types...i live in dubai and would love to meet and drive some routes together ..how do i find you
I been running 37” KM3’s on my Raptor for almost a year now & besides being kinda rough which the size of my rims are probably the main reason I’ve been having good wear & performance at around 37 psi which I think I need to air them down a little more but not sure!?
Changed my 285/75 16" KO2's to 255/85 16" KM3's in April of this year .. got over 40K on two set's of KO2's .. went to rebalance and rotate my KM3's at 7056 miles they are now 'JUNK' .. they can't be balanced and have humps. I never even got to air them down! I run them at 32 psi and they are mounted on a set of Steelies. I now have to look at a new set of tires .. 7056 miles! Great tire life, eh! My rig is a Ford Explorer Sport 2Dr and weighs 4500 lbs full loaded. No rock crawling or the like .. just over landing.
Most mileage ive gotten is from bfgoodrich with my 6000 pound dodge ram on 33's. Ive used ALOT of brands. Lots of hills, potholes and sharp turns where i live. Continentals for cars for treadlife.
I have a jeep and I drive it off road often! My jeep had cooper sst s on it when I bought it and they had plenty of tread left on them but they drive terribly. I couldn’t wait to put bf Goodrich on my jeep
K02 tires up to 30,000 gave me great traction except in muddy rain, I’ve had proper traction even in snow. When tire degradation became an issue the most is while rock crawling as I’ve noticed the side walls become gash with abuse. During most seasons they performed a treat.
Best tire ever in my opinion. They came stock on the JK willys wheelers and man did they perform did everything and anything. First willys I had 0-53k miles on those tires. Punctures, nails everything and they still drove
I agree.. but here is a problem. I pushed all terrain too far on a power company road and got stuck to the frame. No tree big enough to winch from... i needed a serious tow company and paid 685 to get back to a gravel road...so i am buying the mud tires to avoid another huge tow bill..
I live in australia and I do 40% offroad but still use km3s only because got shit ton of mud steep rocks and about 3 inch branches impaling side-walls and its like that all around.
the tread depth is a pisstake, km 3s should have 21/32 minimum like other manufacturers . preferably more on the shoulders . i can see mine wearing before my eyes every 1000ks
My truck has 40's MAXXIS rubber and they are the same tread as these KM3's, They are awesome in the snow and highway too! I've been rescuing vehicles stuck in snow all over the place!
No brainer to the wise. Only thing to add would be if you have the money, buy a tire for each terrain/weather condition. IE: Spending your time on the tarmac in your commuter in the rainy season, I would not suggest either of these tires. ;)
I drive like 15-25% offroad and i have KM3. they have been quieter than my wranglers AT but they are fairly new. Unfortunately, Florida is either very easy off-road or super muddy. The state is flat and only real obstacle is mud. So i went with Km3 and so far so good. With full lockers the Only time i get stuck is if I bottom out...
HI am a big fan of the KO2s. Probably fitted 10-12 sets over the years and absolutely love them. Have a set on my 2017 Ford F150 and its going for 78000km with 70% highway and the rest mud and snow driving and it still not close to hit the low level markers.
I have had 2x sets of KO2's. I live in the wettest part of Australia. I find them no good on the wet blacktop. They just can't spit the water out and I find they aquaplane heaps.
I do a lot of off-roading but still always pick AT tires that are snow homologated because its so versatile and comfortable anywhere in northern Canada.
KO2s were out of stock everywhere last October/November. Purchased KM3s instead and are way better than KM2s I owned 9 years ago. I would buy KM3s again.
My question is. You put 3500 on both models ! So, was it the same environment and did the KO2’s still do the job. I’m not interested in use which for which Did the KO2’s still get it done in same environment ? Yes or no ? I have a 2020 Gladiator lifted with KO2’s and a 1994 XJ not lifted with KO2’s. Firm believer in these tires. Got hooked in early 80’s in Utah on BFG AT’s. Never have I found a better tire. Toyo about same but much more expensive.
Since you are in dubai and i am in dubai too, you know that most of us do ride in the desert during the winter most of the time. So would it be wise to use the KO2 since most of my driving is on the highway and i only go to the desert during winter.
Your price has to be very competitive. Most people will spend extra to get the Road Hazard warranty. It definitely comes in handy if you use KM3’s and K02’s how they’re intended. You have to severely lower whatever your price is. People that can afford these tires expect a warranty and free services that you wouldn’t be able to provide.
Ko2's are the first tyre ive cared about and boy theyve done me well! 90,000km so far and id say they have about 10k left . . . 8-9years old so i should replace them soon just for the age but they have definitely sold me and i wouldnt buy anything else. Gotta say the km3's are very tempting but for my driving they just wouldnt be a good choice . . . Still very tempting tho 😜
iam in northern Nevada so same type of terrain and find the KM3s have way better traction and ability's to claw in and climb going up loose shale and damp dry lake beds , now these are on a light truck i use mostly for prospecting/camping. i have the KO2s on my wifes 4runner and my ford full size and are a great all around mud snow tire although sketchy feeling in deep sand like at lake lahontan . ive noticed with the KM2s and 3s that they never wear out i think because my toyota truck only weighs 3000 lbs. just my 2 cents on them
@@phoneone1371 I frequent the Comstock and surrounding areas as I live between Nor Cal and Stagecoach, Nv.....I have used KO2 tires on my 4Runner and Ram 1500....Very Good Tires! I just ordered a 2022 Power Wagon and I am going to try out the KM3 even though I do quite a bit of freeway driving...I will rotate and keep them a bit soft on the highway..The only thing I worry about is Ice and water...They might grip well on the go pedal, but I know that slamming on the brakes, the mud terrain tires tend to slip a bit more....It'll just make me take my time.... I am wondering how long the KM3 will last with a 2500 truck compared to a 4Runner....Im sure not as long...I'll be happy with 40000 miles...
I should've saw this video before I bought my KM3's..... I love how it looks but hot dang it's freaking loud! Don't believe the forums. I am going back to KO2's once my km's wear out.
I agree about the dura tracs in the winter i put on a set of falken wildpeaks last winter and now I gotta say the wildpeaks out did the duratracs in snow
@@bobbymoore8883 Yes, I've run Duratrac, Cooper STT/Pro, and now Yoko G003 on my LR3 (Disco 3) and the Duratrac was the best in snow by a good bit. Not on rocks or mud certainly, but for snow or more of a daily driver car it's a winner.
@@garnetcampbell4389 Pizza cutters don't cut it out here (Sierras) - they're great for shallow stuff on a road with a solid base, but in the mountains you just sink and high-center. We need max flotation as once the snow gets more than a few feet it might as well be infinite depth. But for a street car/truck it can work.
I got a set of K02 on my 2500 silverado, never been stuck, and haven't been able to hear road noise over wind noise. Gotta say I'm loving them for my HD truck
bobscratchit I have a set of E load on my Hilux, yes I slid twice with them happened by just tapping the brakes !! When driving on wet pavement you have to be mindful of braking distances. I switched from highway tyres to these ko2 and I noticed that you don’t have as much grip when the road is wet! Now I take it easy when the road is wet, no probs with sliding since
@@chrisg1234fly They're great in rain, a sotory of mine: It was raining and I accidentaly hit a pile of sand that was on the side of the road, I slided so hard that i was almost sideways, and had to do an agressive manouver to recover and not hit a tree, not gonna lie, it grabbed like if it was dry pavement. Great tires overall. (Sorry if my english isn't perfect, not my main)
I have the KO2 as a summer tire when it’s dry and use them when it gets really cold and dry snow. But in the times between, when there is a lot of rain and lots of mud in autumn and spring, I use the Cooper Discoverer STT Pros, even when the real offroading is only 20%. When I don‘t use them, I get stuck. The AT is a great tire, but when I have them on and I happen to come across a difficult situation, I have a problem. So half of the year I have to drive the MT‘s on the road a lot too for the offroading in between. But they seem to hold up pretty well, the wear of the tire is very minimal.
I'm in a conundrum between my situations. I live in the "city", and most my driving is just around doing errands. But I also have a property on a river where a mud tire is absolutely necessary all year round. I know for a fact, the many times that I've been stuck on the river bottom fields could've been avoided by just tire selection, let alone winch options etc. Given price differences, I'm leaning towards having the KM3s just because the two different types aren't all that much in that area. I've got a second truck with KO2s on it with over 50 thousand miles and they look brand new. However, they cake up just as bad and just as quick as a street tire would out at my property. So what I'm thinking is that I'd rather have what I needed for the conditions at any given time, over mileage longevity because getting out of my truck(s) just to have to use the winch anyway is a no brainer. And yeah, call me a pavement princess or mall crawler all you want, you'll also be calling me to come get you out.
If you _need_ mud terrain sometimes, and it sounds like you do, why are you even debating it? Get the KM3s unless they're entirely not suitable for something else you do.
Wow Bob we're so glad you can get mental help right here on youtube....please tell us what you decided and please don't take a month to get back to us...we really might think something bad happened to you....
I'm in a similar situation. I do by far the most ks on tar. But it's driving to jobs where I am off road daily, not always mud, but when it gets at all wet I'm stuck. Im also driving through areas of bush I have just mulched trees out of. So not even on tracks.
I am KO OG user nothing was as good. Took set down Escalante rough roads found out about tire wearing and issues for first time. I hope heck new KO2 has similar grip and towing quality of heavy loads in C. Old three ply new is two ply hope heck it does not get smooshy. Goodyear tires on old Toyota Tacomas was first thing come off they smooshy new with no weight in vehicle.
This Really is simple. If you actually go offroad get muds. If your trucks a mall crawler you sometimes take to the hiking trailhead like 95% of folks no terrains are yer freinds. As far as saving wear on the muds with a second set of wheel/tire in no terrain....I feel like the hassle here can't be worth it unless you go on one maybe two offroad trips a year. Save the cost and hassle of the second set and just replace the muds when the time comes.
How much PSI would you recommend for a lighter vehicle like a Jeep wrangler with KO2 Load C for the highway? I have a relatively lighter vehicle (2018 Toyota 4Runner) like a Jeep Wrangler and feel like 35+ PSI are too bumpy on highway. Wonder if its safe to go down to 28 or 30 psi on highway doing 100-120kmph? Will the tire over heat and cause problems? My setup - Toyota 4Runner BFG KO2 LT285/70R17 Load C.
I am in the northeastern US. I put KO2s on after deciding I wasn't going to do serious rock or mud crawling. Noticeably quieter on pavement. Noticeably better on light snow/ice. Noticeably better acceleration. I had on M/Ts before and logged 20k miles on them on mostly pavement.
Mate, From Aus.. They are a Fucking shit tyre... For the last 5 years people have been shifting far away from these tyres. Try Toyo Champion or a Japan'es Tyre.
I have a set of bf muddies on my patrol my partner had bf all terrains on her wagon they hate the dirt road pop lives on 12 months and I have never had so many flats and chunks of rubber just rip of them back to the carcass and thread hanging out they have not lasted at all cut chip and rip to bits nice tyre but wrong for what I do and worst of all the tyre bloke recommended them I’m very unhappy worst luck
Do you think the tread pattern of th km2 and km3 act like a paddle which helps you sand ? Because other mud terrains have a sharper tread pattern like the Toyo mt and pro comp
with chipping like that on the KM3 there is no way I'll be sticking with BF's again after my KM2's. Nearly 90,000km out of my KM2's. These wont last anywhere near as well.
I would love to have the choice. But they don’t do anything for patrol y62 with 18”x7”. Excellent review though. I’d like the km3 just for the side wall strength for the wadis and mountains. If someone can give me clarity on whether it would go on 7” rim safely I’d appreciate it. 33x12.50R18
I went from KO2's in 34x10.5-17 (really 33.5") to Firestone Destination MT2's in 295-70R-18 (34.3"). I loved the KO2's. Only issue was they picked up small stones alot. Then they flick them, think tink under the truck all day. I'm very surprised how smooth the MT2's are so far. Very aggressive tread! They are supposed to be better side hilling or in ruts then the KM3
I probably go offroading every 4-6 weeks but when I do its always really thick mud or technical hill climbs, my car is a daily diver but pretty suited up for offroad with lockers ect. Do you think M/T are worth it, maybe even a hybrid
