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BG3 Sorcerer vs Warlock vs Wizard - Which Baldur's Gate 3 Class Should You Play? 

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@Fextralife
@Fextralife Год назад
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@ottobot1234
@ottobot1234 Год назад
Has there been any information on how the warlock pact is going to work as far as interaction with your patron will they give you tasks? What happens if you obey or ignore them? I'm curious how much Larian put into these potential interactions
@a.m.pietroschek1972
@a.m.pietroschek1972 Год назад
Warlock martial proficiencies are for beating-up or mugging distracted wizards. 🤣
@nicmalugin9287
@nicmalugin9287 Год назад
@@ottobot1234Also Is Something similar to the coffee lock possible to increase the number of spell slots even further
@MyanRiller
@MyanRiller Год назад
Wizards have one massive hidden buff compared to tabletop. Most DMs (in my experience) will not freely shower your wizard with scrolls/spellbooks to give you an encyclopedia sized known spell list. The game engine is not going to place artificial boundaries like this, meaning your spell list in BG3 is likely to be a LOT larger than an equivalent leveled wizard on table top. Gold is likely going to be the limiting factor on the size of your spellbooks.
@jacobmendoza6050
@jacobmendoza6050 Год назад
Or perhaps sleight of hand could be the determining factor. :)
@hasseo195
@hasseo195 Год назад
And you can even spare a lot of spell points, by using the scrolls. Instant of the prepared spell
@צמחישראלמרום
@צמחישראלמרום Год назад
@@hasseo195 true. even though, remember that sometimes you want to cast a spell on higher level, and spell scrolls are most of the time the base level of that spell.
@TheKillaShow
@TheKillaShow Год назад
You'll have 150 spells in your book and still cast the same 5 per day.
@BW022
@BW022 Год назад
@@TheKillaShow +1. Even in PnP tables (where players have time) I rarely see clerics and druids swapping out spells unless it is darn obvious they needs something and even then it is often one spell. I'm a good PnP player and I rarely take the time to swap out spells -- especially in a semi-diverse party which can usually cover it. Typically, you have one common offensive and defensive spell per level (magic missile, web, fireball + shield, misty step, fly) and then you are down to three or so you can also memorize. You then use these exclusively, get used to them, etc. Unless you know you are facing something immune to fire, maybe you switch. In 6+ years of 5e play, Adventure League plus home games, I can count the number of times I've switched spells around. Also note that sorcerers and warlocks (along with bards and other classes which have a limited number of spells known) can swap out one spell each time they level. So, a first level sorcerer might take sleep. By 5th-level, if they find it isn't scaling well enough, they can swap it out for say magic missile. IMO, this is good enough. IMO, the power of learning spells is not so much having a dozen spells which you could memorized, but having a dozen rituals in the book which you can use -- find familiar, detect spells, identify, water breathing, tiny hut, etc. These pretty much ensure that you don't need to memorize most utility spells.
@Jay-eo4pm
@Jay-eo4pm Год назад
Dude these guides are so much better than standalone guides for classes. Generally speaking people know what type of class they're going to play so it's nice seeing it side by side
@iamweapon
@iamweapon Год назад
If you're fighting Illithids (mindflayers), Intelligence saving throws are actually very useful.
@NyJoanzy
@NyJoanzy Год назад
GOO warlock also useful in that scenario.
@Argonian0727
@Argonian0727 Год назад
What’s a illithid?
@Danielhuren
@Danielhuren Год назад
@@Argonian0727 its undercommon for mind flayer and there proper name most people in the overworld wont even know what an illithid is but they do know what mind flayers are
@JT-mt6ku
@JT-mt6ku Год назад
@@Argonian0727It’s a class of monsters that use psionic abilities, not all illithids are mind flayers. It’s like how humans are primates but not all primates are humans.
@kohtalainenalias
@kohtalainenalias Год назад
@@Argonian0727 Squidmancers!
@HeartoftheWinter
@HeartoftheWinter Год назад
Its worth adding that Wild Magic can also be used in conversations to affect certain outcomes.
@Deris87
@Deris87 Год назад
Most sub-classes provide additional conversation options though.
@skewdower9522
@skewdower9522 Год назад
@@Deris87 they were talking about how it can give you advantage in rolls
@ziwuri
@ziwuri Год назад
Oh that's really cool, how exactly does it work?
@dj32798
@dj32798 Год назад
@@ziwuri "Tides of Chaos: Manipulate the forces of chaos to gain Advantage on the next Attack Roll, Ability Check or Saving Throw." Recharges on a short or long rest.
@ziwuri
@ziwuri Год назад
@@dj32798 how does that interact with dialogue, like does it just trigger combat if it procs an aggressive effect?
@NyJoanzy
@NyJoanzy Год назад
The difference between wizard and sorcerer is basically - wizard will have the right tool for the job. - sorcerer's will be more skillful with the tools they have.
@barcster2003
@barcster2003 Год назад
This is how I think about it. Sorcerer - "you made your kids with magic." "Thats what every mother does." Think scarlet witch they break the rules of magic. Warlock - "where you are going every day is Halloween" think spawn they all have otherworldly patrons. They are pretty customizable. Wizard - "for in dreams we enter a world that is entirely our own" think dumbledore the most magic a character can have and do.
@michaelbeard4883
@michaelbeard4883 Год назад
@@barcster2003scarlet witch, dr strange, dumedore
@hasseo195
@hasseo195 Год назад
I compared them as: Wizard = support chara. Sorcerer = DD class
@twistedumbrella7537
@twistedumbrella7537 Год назад
@@hasseo195 For a second I thought you were saying Sorcerer was a D&D class, and I was confused as Wizard is too, Idk why I did not realize it was damage dealer immediately.
@Joyapp
@Joyapp Год назад
and warlock eldritch blast. all the time.
@Koshea69
@Koshea69 Год назад
Classes to compare: Wade into the middle of battle Marshal: Fighter vs Paladin vs Barbarian Healer and Buffer: Druid vs Cleric vs Bard I never knew you could change out your spells as a wizard any time you weren't in combat, thought like 5e it was a rest thing, that's quite a bit more versatile I like it! Makes all those extra spells in your book feel useful!
@stephens021
@stephens021 Год назад
It the same with all spell casters in BG3 not just the wizard.
@Koshea69
@Koshea69 Год назад
@@stephens021 cool, well with prepared casters anyway, bards, warlocks and sorcerers don't get the option. But was mentioning it specifically in the case of wizards because I love wizards but haven't seen a single reason to play one vs a sorcerer who just seemed to have everything going better for them in this game.
@jeepersmcgee3466
@jeepersmcgee3466 Год назад
​@@Koshea69yupagreed, sorcerer seems better in every regard, but freely swapping spells out of combat while having by far the most to choose from, that sounds VERY fun
@alexbosse8528
@alexbosse8528 Год назад
Loved Warlock in EA. Once you got the double shot knockback eldritch blast its like having a magical shotgun.
@ChaoticGoodPeasant23
@ChaoticGoodPeasant23 Год назад
Bonus points if you play with a friend and use a shotgun soundboard. xD
@Deris87
@Deris87 Год назад
Yeah, that's probably the best way to think of them. Their main class/spellcasting feature is really Eldritch Blast + Invocations, which gives them consistent magical DPS, with a few spell slots for support spells.
@Kimtanashino
@Kimtanashino Год назад
Spamming Eldricht blast looks fun but is it not boring after a while compared to other spellcasters with the lack of options?
@Deris87
@Deris87 Год назад
@@Kimtanashino Maybe a bit, but being as a Warlock's spell slots come back on a short rest compared to a Long Rest for Wizards/Sorcerers, you still have plenty of spell slots throughout the day. The reality for any of these 3 classes is you'll probably start out casting one good Concentration spell, then mostly a damaging cantrip, while maybe occasionally peppering in a stronger damaging spell. There's also scrolls out the wazoo in this game, so it's very easy to horde damaging spell scrolls on your Warlock to bust out if you do run out of spell slots.
@recklez8131
@recklez8131 Год назад
@@Kimtanashino It is but it's also not. Personally I will play an Archfey Warlock with Pact of the Blade in my first playthrough. It's probably the best 'spellblade' sort of character you can make. If we get Thirsting Blade invocation you'll have 2 attacks as your action at lvl 5, very safe because you can use your 6th level Misty Escape to just poof out of harms way, become invisible instantly and then set up for another attack. So you'll be a very capable melee fighter while ALSO being able to cast 6 high level spells per long rest.
@tiradentes4525
@tiradentes4525 Год назад
I absolutely adore the Sorcerer class! Without a doubt, I'll choose to play one, and I'm considering multi-classing with Fighter to enjoy the benefits of medium armor and the Defense fighting style. By the way, it's worth mentioning that the amount of money you obtain from selling items or spending on purchases depends on your "Attitude" score, which ranges from -100 to 100, and your proficiency in Persuasion (Charisma + Proficiency if any). So, if you're looking to strike excellent deals with traders, the Sorcerer is the ideal choice for you!
@thedrunkmanga4610
@thedrunkmanga4610 Год назад
Just start fighter then and get heavy armor proficiency..?
@tiradentes4525
@tiradentes4525 Год назад
​@@thedrunkmanga4610 Roleplay-wise, I want to play a Sorcerer who learns some fighter skills. Therefore, I'll start as a Sorcerer, and furthermore, I don't want to delay reaching level 5 to get the Double Haste spell.
@thedrunkmanga4610
@thedrunkmanga4610 Год назад
@@tiradentes4525 haste is pretty mid with haste potions in the game.
@tiradentes4525
@tiradentes4525 Год назад
​@@thedrunkmanga4610 I understand your point of view, but personally, I disagree. In Baldur's Gate 3, the Haste spell is incredibly potent, allowing a level 5 Sorcerer to use it 2 to 3 times, depending on resource management. A level 6 Sorcerer can certainly use it 3 times. Consequently, it is highly probable that this spell will be employed consistently throughout the entire combat by the sorcerer, unlike potions, which become impractical to use in large quantities due to their costs and scarcity. Moreover, in tougher or more critical battles, the player may need to consume 4 or even 6 potions in a single fight, given their duration of only 3 turns. Another aspect to consider is that while the potion grants an extra action in the initial turns, it provides no benefit on the fourth turn and even causes lethargy, thereby taking away an action from the character. This results in a net gain of 2 extra actions. In contrast, after 4 turns, the user of the Haste spell will have a surplus of 4 additional actions. Consequently, at this point, the spell user enjoys twice the advantage compared to someone relying on potions. (In a Twin Spell scenario, by turn 4, the potion team will have 4 extra actions compared to 8 from the spell team. If we translate that into "Attacks," it would probably mean 16 extra attacks against 8). PS: I am considering Sorcerer Twinning Haste, as it's probably the most powerful move the sorcerer can make.
@thedrunkmanga4610
@thedrunkmanga4610 Год назад
@@tiradentes4525 if you aren’t ending most fights within 3 full rounds of combat you’re doing something wrong. Maybe it’s because you waste a turn with your sorcerer instead of doing damage with him lol.
@joemama114
@joemama114 Год назад
People forget just how impactful disadvantage can be on a save, when using sorcerer meta magic. Let's say a target has a 50% chance to avoid your spell. If you make that roll at advantage, they now only have a 25% chance of getting a success on both rolls, if they fail either roll, the are forced to use it, so they have a 75% chance to fail the save. This disparity only gets more significant the lower their save chance is, if a target has a 30% to save and a 70% to fail, with disadvantage that's 9% to save and 91% to fail.
@C5bC6C7C8C9n
@C5bC6C7C8C9n Год назад
Naturally, this also applies in the other direction for advantage. Everyone knows it's good to have advantage, but not always how good it is. Rolling two d20s and taking the highest results in a 9.75% chance of getting a nat20, nearly doubling your chance for critical success compared to using a single die. This is powerful knowledge when applied to mechanics like darkness and darkvision in D&D, where a character who cannot see their target attacks with disadvantage, and an unseen attacker strikes with advantage. This is commonly used by Warlocks with the Devil's Sight invocation and the Darkness spell, as the spell creates darkness that even darkvision won't work in, but Devil's Sight allows the Warlock to see in it. This is a potent tool considering Eldritch Blast benefits from the higher crit probability, and non-multiclass blasterlocks won't usually have super high AC.
@mourka01
@mourka01 Год назад
Warlock just sounds so awesome especially with patron interactions
@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash
@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash Год назад
bad choice - lock is by far the worst out of the 3 heck, warlock is the worst full caster in the game period, not just out of those 3
@РомаЮшкевич
@РомаЮшкевич Год назад
@@WhirlwindHeatAndFlashidk , I just love to play through hex + spell , I completed 1 act alone with the warlock
@mourka01
@mourka01 Год назад
@@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash but if we can have a patron like they showed with the companion it more than makes up for it i think
@craigtrish2011
@craigtrish2011 Год назад
@@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash Can people like you just feck off and play something else? Not every one gives a shit about min maxing and some of us just want more rp. Warlock has more rp out of all 3 due to patrons. So go away and talk to people who want to suck all the fun out of the game by only playing the most powerful stuff ;)
@dakotahmay6746
@dakotahmay6746 Год назад
⁠​⁠​⁠@@WhirlwindHeatAndFlashit’s not a bad choice for someone to chose what others would deem uninteresting. I by far prefer Warlock and Bard. They didn’t say they were the best class they said it sounded awesome and interesting, which they do.
@Kavino
@Kavino Год назад
Wizard has a much higher knowledge ceiling, because if you know the encounter before hand on enemy type and placement, you can pretty much slot in a spell setup that deals with it in an optimal way. As a wizard if you are prepared enough about an encounter, you can always come out ahead.
@shmoga
@shmoga 7 месяцев назад
ie: wizards are only good for your first play though. second playthrough your prepping your wizard for the engagement you already know how will play out. thats meta-gaming, not meta-magic.
@jRsqILVOY
@jRsqILVOY Год назад
The Sorcerer looks so fun - that versatility to swap spells for metamagic in battle is great. Please do Paladin vs. Cleric especially since buffs (and pre-buffing) has been nerfed in D&D5e.
@yahtowolf1866
@yahtowolf1866 Год назад
I've been looking forward to your Baldur's gate 3 videos every day. Thank you so much for this pleasure ^^ long time fan of your work. Your content, great work and presentation and wikis are some of the best, and definitely my favourites.
@AuDio143
@AuDio143 9 месяцев назад
I'm confused between these three classes, and your vid helps a lot, great job!
@CaliFreek63
@CaliFreek63 Год назад
Thank you so much, no one really had an answer for this question when I asked it, this clarifies quite a lot!
@erickchristensen746
@erickchristensen746 Год назад
Personally I prefer going with a Wizard of the three. They have the largest spell list, can gain extra number of spells over time through copying spell scrolls down, more versatile, and just as powerful as the other two. Sorcerer Meta Magic and their sub classes are pretty fun so I do enjoy them as well, but they are restricted to a limited number of spells that they can't swap out which kinda sucks. Warlock is my least fave to this day, too few spell slots to make use of, only a few invocations actually make the locks do any good damage with cantrips and such to make up for the spell slot thing and the rest are very niche'(The good damage builds which most people min-max for are always the same few builds), and they are not as flexible as the other two. That's just my take on it all, everyone has their interests for them.
@Ninja40K
@Ninja40K Год назад
Totally agreed.
@Xalantor
@Xalantor Год назад
Sorcerer seems like the perfect class for a magic main character for a game. Since there are no other humans to be considered I naturally want to lead the conversations with NPC towards my goals. With less spells than wizards they're a lot easier to play for a new player like me. Wizards rely on preparation which heavily favors experienced players.
@tombie1020
@tombie1020 Год назад
Wizards get a HUGE buff in this by being able to change their prepared spells at any time outside of combat. In the tabletop version you can only change your prepared spells when you finish a long rest. Wizards are going to be OP as hell in this game.
@jRsqILVOY
@jRsqILVOY Год назад
It's a great change though, it's my main complaint when playing Solasta. At least the Pathfinder / D&D5e spell slot system is better than the old D&D2 one with individual prepared spell counts.
@jeepersmcgee3466
@jeepersmcgee3466 Год назад
I, for one, am stoked about this. One of my greatest joys in games like this is being prepared and having the right tool for the job, and it sounds like Wizard is unparalleled for that
@garrylove8955
@garrylove8955 5 месяцев назад
I've played as them and it's pretty great. I wouldn't say OP though. Sorcerer is more OP imo
@Sargon-ml4hs
@Sargon-ml4hs Год назад
One thing to note that I don't believe you mentioned was the fighter/wizard multiclass is also generally taken with fighter first so that you can take advantage of having constitution saving throw proficiencies for all the same reasons that you mentioned the sorcerer benefitted from. I would generally put that ahead of the eldritch knight synergies personally.
@Miggy19779
@Miggy19779 Год назад
In BG3 where mind flayers are the bad guys (their psychic attacks use int saving throws), I'd rather go wizard for int saving thows and shore constitution with the resilient feat ASAP.
@grey_wind
@grey_wind Год назад
I'm definitely doing Warlock as my primary character. Archfey most likely. Exploring the multi-classing options is far more daunting 🤣 Another great video, sir!
@ArcaneZippity
@ArcaneZippity Год назад
Typically with new players I suggest they avoid Mulit-Classing until they are more familiar with the game mechanics as well as what their class and other classes are capable of, at different levels... Otherwise they risk, not only decreasing the effectiveness of their character, but possibly making mistakes and finding their intended mix doesn't work like they thought it might... That doesn't invalidate the use of multi-classing out the gate, but by learning how a given class works first will help them make a more informed decision on when and if to multiclass...
@MayHugger
@MayHugger Год назад
@@ArcaneZippityThey’ll be fine, the game lets them respec if it doesn’t work out.
@Dwesk
@Dwesk Год назад
This video made me understand the differences between the three fairly similar sounding classes (particularly Sorcerer/Wizard) quite distinctly. Thank you for this. Definitely not choosing Wizard, already was iffy about the idea of an overwhelming spellcaster but Wizard seems overkill for first playthrough.
@Minoze
@Minoze Год назад
Just like in the table top Game I would say (In my opinion) Warlocks are the best Intro to magic casters. You get the fun with spells (yes only 2 per rest) But you gain so many boons that just make it fun. But I know not everyone likes the... "I have one cantrip and that's it". But I think its fun.
@im7254
@im7254 Год назад
I liked playing it before as kind of swiss knife of exploration letting me try everything imaginable instead of repetative
@makeytgreatagain6256
@makeytgreatagain6256 Год назад
I must be so weird. I went into this game with a love for Warlocks but after playing the game I fell in love with Gale’s utility with magic as a wizard, by far my favourite class, if it wasn’t for the long rests needed I’d put them as OP, my damage as a wizard is high my support buffs are amazing. Sure there’s a lot to learn and spend but that’s not been at all an issue for me I have over 20 spells and love changing them out. When I’m in a dungeon and want to get from a to b I just use misty step or Fly. When I’m taking on a camp of goblins I use fireball to decimate a bunched of group of goblins. When I’m outnumbered I summon a demon and a sentient fireball to fight on my behalf. God I love this class
@dantauche7917
@dantauche7917 Год назад
These class comparison videos are extremely helpful and informative. As someone who is holding off and waiting for the official release before playing, this has help clarify what and how i would like to play as. Thank you Fextra!
@Chocomunchie
@Chocomunchie Год назад
What'd you decide on? I'm still on the fence. If anything, this made my decision harder lol.
@dantauche7917
@dantauche7917 Год назад
@@Chocomunchie I decided on a Paladin lol I get what you mean all the classes sound so fun and interesting it’s really hard to decide!
@samuelrichards5521
@samuelrichards5521 Год назад
I still can't decide on playing tav or dark urge. Love your videos, only 11 more days!
@dexgames4366
@dexgames4366 Год назад
Man, your multiclass guides videos are gonna do well 😅 thank you in advance for the work.
@AlexanderCurtis
@AlexanderCurtis Год назад
Whoa! Are you serious that Sorcerers can cast 2 spells in one turn with Quicken Spell metamagic? That would be a HUGE buff from D&D 5E, where if you cast a bonus action spell, you can only cast a cantrip with your action. Absolutely insane with a Thief multiclass. It's hard to see how that wouldn't be one of the best builds in the game for nova damage.
@Huntr-bg7cm
@Huntr-bg7cm Год назад
IIRC the game already ignores that rule. Pretty sure I used Healing Word with Guiding Bolt on the same turn with Shadowheart multiple times.
@kokong29446
@kokong29446 Год назад
I can do double fireballs in EA. You can do this only 1-2 times per long rest though, as it costs 3 sorcery points
@-POISON-
@-POISON- Год назад
There's also a helmet that gives you a free bonus action if your health drops below 50%. And, of course, there's the option of going 2 levels fighter for Action Surge...
@timm8998
@timm8998 Год назад
@@-POISON- What about thief 3 fighter 2 and the helm. You do need 9 MM to cast the quickens then ofcourse. You can cast 4 fireballs in single turn then.
@OmegaNovious
@OmegaNovious Год назад
Would be cool to also see a comparison of Warlock v Ranger - Beast Master for a "summoner/pet" role that can either supplement the minion(s) with melee and/or range builds. Even Eldritch Blast + Hex every turn v Martial Attack + Hunter's Mark every turn is a very similar mechanic.
@DemonOfMyMind
@DemonOfMyMind Год назад
In the current build of the game Ranger is a much stronger pet class. We'll see if pact of the chain gets buffed on release, so that's going to be something we have to wait on. Beast master ranger is REALLY strong though!
@guyver6622
@guyver6622 Год назад
Deathknight: Fighter 4 eldritch knight (absorb elements, shield, (2 of chill touch/ toll the dead/ mold earth) cleric 1 death domain (mending, healing word) warlock 1 hexblade (blade word, prestidigitation, armor of agathys, hex) wizard 6/ necromancer (haste, vampiric touch, counterspell)
@jorgef005
@jorgef005 Год назад
as a veteran 5th edition DnD player, I already know all I want to play as, but i love fextralife, so im liking, and letting this video run in the background. I absolutely want 0 spoilers
@dzikdziki2983
@dzikdziki2983 Год назад
Played all 3 in ea and warlock is my thing. Probably my first play. That or berserker. Or maybe monk...
@reisenlaniakea7374
@reisenlaniakea7374 Год назад
This answered many generel questions for me. Thanks! I will watch all class videos before i decide what to play.
@patrickmulder2450
@patrickmulder2450 Год назад
I like my Wizards chatty. Sure, they'll never have the charisma of the other two presented classes, but that's alright. Get the Persuasion skill from your background and you can get a descent bonus on your rolls. You can compensate the difference with the Friends cantrip and a liberal use of your friendly cleric's guidance spell. With that combi I don't think I've failed a charisma check yet in the Early Access, and you've got strong knowledge skills that'll also help in conversations and other encounters. Add that to the wider range of available spells due to preparation, and your ability to switch these spells out for others from your spellbook and you can do almost anything.
@gravedgr01
@gravedgr01 Год назад
@7:20 - wizard and sorcerer are not "useless when out of spells" as they will use cantrips, just like the warlock uses the Eldritch Blast cantrip. Flamebolt (1d10 fire) or Chill Touch (1d8 necrotic plus prevents healing) vs. Eldritch Blast (1d10 force) are very minor differences. Only invocation-boosted Eldritch Blasts start to differentiate themselves by a significant margin.
@alejandromarinetti8622
@alejandromarinetti8622 Год назад
Yes but you can use Hex just after a rest. And in lvl 2 or 3 you can add charisma modifier to the damage and a knockback effect. In lvl 5 you get can throw 2 beams at once and later on 3.
@addicon6809
@addicon6809 Год назад
I can't wait to see a build for an Oathbreaker Paladin. I already got a few ideas myself, but your guides are amazing.
@magicpondrecords
@magicpondrecords Год назад
bruh I didn't even realize what that was, basically DK vibes.. I was kinda set on Warlock for my first playthrough but maybe the Oathbreaker paladin will be fun
@addicon6809
@addicon6809 Год назад
@@magicpondrecords Oh yeah, in DnD I always use Dragonborn cause of the bonus to strength and charisma. With a breath weapon and natural resistance depending on which type of ancestry you pick can make a you Op.
@xNitrosisx
@xNitrosisx Год назад
I think it might be helpful for some of those who are considering multiclassing to know about the different proficiencies they will gain between multiclassing and starting as a class. For instance, a fighter will only get heavy armor proficiency if they begin the game as a level 1 fighter, or af least that is how the TTRPG plays. Be cautious, friends. As for the videos, they are doing great. Id like to see builds for early and late game once the game releases, and especially want to see some builds surrounding equipment and what not, like all of the spark and momentum armor in the game now. As Wolfheart would say, Skal!
@EGPN21
@EGPN21 Год назад
These videos are single-handedly making me buy this game. The only thing I would ask is if you can potentially put a grade system (like outlining the overall class) it’s a lot of information and I’m still trying to fully grasp it
@omg_RANCORS
@omg_RANCORS Год назад
Highlighting the differences between similar classes is super helpful. The nuances of warlock spell casting was lost on me. I did see that charisma was it’s stat so at level 4 chose that for my sorcerer. That kind of advice is very helpful. Obviously endgame builds are helpful, but things you can and maybe should do in the first half or two thirds of the game are very helpful. If you know what a build should be doing early one I think it helps you understand the mechanics better moving forward.
@MarkMiller304
@MarkMiller304 8 месяцев назад
Sorcerer = Scarlet Witch Wizard = Dr Strange Warlock = Ghost Rider
@Gameamp
@Gameamp Год назад
Iv always liked: Wizard - studies hard and gets an A Sorc - turns up and gets an A Warlock - sleeps with the teacher and gets an A.
@hazamax2139
@hazamax2139 Год назад
Just the fact that there are warlock patron interactions I feel really tempted to go with that. Either a full Bard, Wiz or Lock will be my first run.
@bingonight1504
@bingonight1504 3 месяца назад
sigh I wish. I wanted to see the archfey
@guyver6622
@guyver6622 Год назад
paladin 2, Sorcerer 5 (storm), Warlock 5 (archfey). Smites, eldritch blast, short rest spell slots, metamagic, 3rd level offensive spells, extra attack with thirsting blade, heavy armor, only really need to worry about charisma, etc…
@aeontiv
@aeontiv Год назад
Sorcerer with 2 levels in fighter gives you an extra action. so you can quicken 1 spell, then cast other spells that require actions
@ChroniclesofNoria
@ChroniclesofNoria Год назад
Oooh. This was fantastic! Thank you!!! I’m planning on choosing one of the mage options for my second playthrough so I’ve definitely saved this in my Baldur’s Gate 3 playlist 😀. Please keep the multiclassing rec options coming. I would love to see you do an analysis of the Monk class (which is the class I want to play in my first playthrough), and I’m considering combining it with a cleric, for multiclassing. Not sure if it works though. I just love the duality of being able to send someone plunging to their deaths with my fists, whilst using those same fists to heal someone from the brink of death 😂😂
@dussan2
@dussan2 Год назад
Hey, can I tell you guys a secret? I have played EVERY single Forgotten Realms CRPG and game since the 80's. Beaten Baldur's Gate 1, 2 and their ilk multiple times and I currently have 300+ hours into the early access for Baldurs Gate 3. I just learned in the video that you could prepare spells out of combat with out a long rest. Literally the only reason I have NEVER beaten a game as a Wizard class. I cannot believe it. It's in every tutorial now that realize it. You can swap out spells out of combat, you only need the long rest to refill the spells slots.
@theangler1922
@theangler1922 Год назад
Fairly bad synopsis of Warlock. Warlock, you'll want to use your spell slots on spells that effect the battlefield longer than one turn to gain the most of them. Battlefield changing spells or constant damage spells or spells that deal damage and have an additional effect. Warlocks main DPS is Eldritch Blast, which Warlock gains the ability to customize as they level up through invocations. It's the only cantrip that gets a stat modifier, it can knock back, pull in, slow enemies. On top of that it fires multiple beams as you level up, making it an extremely potent spammable damage and CC option. There are also spells unique to Warlock, such as Dissonant Whispers and Hex. In addition to customizing Eldritch Blast, you can pick Invocations that effect other aspects of gameplay as well, like casting normally limited spells as much as you want such as Mage Armor, False Life, Disguise Self.
@ObsidianKnight90
@ObsidianKnight90 Год назад
Warlocks indeed excel with concentration spells, Banishment in particular can absolutely declaw encounters. The only exception where an instant-effect spell is truly viable is the Fiend Warlock's Fireball; 8d6 damage to a large area can be the perfect way to clear out a group of weaker enemies especially from ambush. Between Fireball, Banishment, and two rays of Eldritch Blast per turn, Fiend Warlocks that hit 7th level are pretty good against both groups of enemies and powerful singular enemies.
@77rockcity
@77rockcity Год назад
This is all new to me, and I like it! 💯 Gonna try a White Dragonborn Draconic Sorc to start 🤷‍♂️
@PatrickHumanMalePerson
@PatrickHumanMalePerson Год назад
does anyone else watched this video to finally make decision what class to play but only made it harder?
@Kiobao
@Kiobao Год назад
Sorcerer seems rather interesting to me. I would even like to try Sorcadin in a future playthrough. Warlock seems too simplistic even if strong and useful. wizard seems a tad overwhelming but really great and many options. Torn between Sorcerer and Wizard. Also, while warlocks may not need to long rest as frequently, and are OK with short rest, I have felt in my EA leveling that matters less when you have to rest for everyone else getting spell slots. Mostly the Cleric and somewhat the paladin.
@angelusmortis5605
@angelusmortis5605 Год назад
Sorlock is a great multiclass set-up.
@devonfornal3050
@devonfornal3050 Год назад
Me watching all of these guides knowing full well I know the entirety of 5e like the back of my hand
@McTrapper
@McTrapper Год назад
Once again great job with explaining the core difference between the classes and how each of them might play out. I also very much appreciated the multi class section in the end. Out of these classes I think warlock sounds the most fun for me, I might try that out at some point, wouldn't have even given these classes a thought without this video.
@AstaIsAMonster
@AstaIsAMonster Год назад
*THANKS YOU FOR PUTTING ALL OF THEM IN 1 VIDEO.* 🙏🏽 *I’M SAVING IT WHEN I START PLAYING THE GAME ON PS5 WHEN IT DROPS.*
@CatalinCiubotaru
@CatalinCiubotaru Год назад
Thanks for another awesome video. They're super helpful for a newbie.
@tassey
@tassey Год назад
Excellent. I subbed because this is exactly the kind of information I need. Haven't played any form of D&D since BG1 (when it came out). Probably not take a spellcaster for my first go, but these options sound really interesting.
@kckaz4453
@kckaz4453 Год назад
I love that you use "fewer" correctly. Bless you!
@d34rth
@d34rth Год назад
Great video. I've mostly decided to run a caster for my first playthrough. Probably start out as 2 levels of warlock, then progress as a sorcerer all the way, since Eldritch Blast progresses based on character level and not class level.
@joemama114
@joemama114 Год назад
Surprised that bard isn't in this discussion, Given it's more of a "pure caster" than warlock but also more of a martial than your standard wizard or sorcerer, at least on table top.
@tiradentes4525
@tiradentes4525 Год назад
The primary purpose of this video is to assist individuals interested in playing a "Mage" character in understanding the various classes that align with their desired roleplay. It's essential to note that while Bards are indeed full spellcasters, but they don't entirely embody the classic mage fantasy. Thus, the focus here isn't solely on the attributes utilized or whether one is a full spellcaster or not; rather, it revolves around defining "Who you are in the world".
@ventrue7
@ventrue7 Год назад
Bards are usually considered as support casters and paired up with cleric and druid when making comparisons.
@alurian3208
@alurian3208 Год назад
Something to note about conversions is the friends cantrip that lets you roll 2 dice and take the best one.
@guyver6622
@guyver6622 Год назад
The Storm Knight: A Frontline Hit & Run Blaster Strength 14 Dexterity 14 Constitution14 intelligence 8 wisdom 8 charisma 16 Fighter or Tempest cleric and Storm sorcerer subclass HALF-ELF DROW Draconic Bloodline BLUE DRAGON OR STORM SORCERY headband of intellect intelligence 18
@lissythearchitect
@lissythearchitect Год назад
Your Wisdom seems a bit low to take full advantage of Cleric levels.
@thanatos5150
@thanatos5150 Год назад
Missing a Trick: Warlock and Wizard is actually very good, especially with an Abjuration Wizard. A two-level dip into Warlock lets you pick up the Armour of Shadows invocation, which will effectively make sure your Abjurer has an infinitely-refreshing Arcane Ward, and you can also pick up, say, the Beast Speech Invocation to always let you speak to your fluffy friends, as well as a couple of emergency spell slots that come back on Short Rest you can flex your Wizard spells into.
@warchefseed
@warchefseed Год назад
I played Neverwinter nights 2 twice with a warlock. It was a walk in the park. Super high charisma and a reliable attack based on charisma are OP.
@Nephlyte348
@Nephlyte348 Год назад
Literally been looking for a guide that answered this question for the last three days! Many thanks!
@johnhardin9847
@johnhardin9847 Год назад
Fav 5e multi classes that I wouldusing love to see build paths for! 1 Crit fishing fighter barb: Half-orc for extra crit dice, champion fighter into barbarian for advantage on all attacks and damage resist 2 Eldritch blaster warlock sorc: Warlock into sorc useing quicken spell to eldritch blast 2 times a turn getting more attack rolls per turn than most. particularly nasty with hex, darkness, and devil's sight. 3 Warlock Paladin: pact of blade to drop strength to make class less M.A.D and have refreshing spell slots for smites 4 Barbarian Rouge: using reckless attack to get advantage and always sneak attacking, this one doesn't really work in 5e but might work in the changed ruleset of BG3 can't wait till the wiki is fully up to date with spells/class features for some awesome white room theory crafting
@tyknudson-klar5219
@tyknudson-klar5219 Год назад
Im plannjng on being a dragonborn sorcerer(draconic bloodline) with a warlock multiclass. Both use charisma and then I get access to warlock spells and proficencies
@Vrindlevine
@Vrindlevine Год назад
As they are not bringing the majority of spells over (meaning having every spell in the game as wizard is less useful). Sorc will take the cake for best offensive caster easily. On harder difficulties sorc has a much higher ceiling for enemies with inflated saves/health due to things like twinned spell and heightened spell. Also the core wizard subclasses are fairly weak compared to sorcerer ones, especially at the levels this game takes place at.
@tyfighter015
@tyfighter015 Год назад
I wanted to play a Sorc on our first run thru but without having transmute metamagic (really don't want to have fire spells as it's overdone) and not having but around a 1/3 of the total spells in the game at launch prolly gonna wait for some patches. Video's are awesome!
@jforozco12
@jforozco12 Год назад
Paladin Oathbraker + Warlock Fiend Pact for ultimate flavour
@jayjayson9613
@jayjayson9613 Год назад
I always play as a Rogue or Dex heavy builds but I am going Warlock here. It looks like it's going to be a fun time.
@Joyapp
@Joyapp Год назад
Been deciding on to take a wizard or warlock. A warlock will benefit from my bards short rest, but a wizard will give us a character with int. not easy choices lol.
@thesurlygamer6933
@thesurlygamer6933 Год назад
My first playthrough will be a High Half Elf Storm Sorcerer Urchin with the Dark Urge. He was cast out when young for nuking the house...and cows, barn, wagon, etc. Growing up on the streets he survived the best he could by developing his sleight of hand and deception skills (conveniently meaning I don't need a rogue). Now he has to battle the dark urge that feeds off the resentment and hatred he has tried to suppress from being abandoned as a child. Not original, but I'll take it. I'm really interested in seeing the changes for storm sorcery, but I'm playing one regardless of what they've done just for flavor.
@jarennewman6735
@jarennewman6735 Год назад
I might recommend a breakdown of differences between the Barbarian, fighter, and monk. They all hit similar play types, but in quite different ways.
@Yolenborn
@Yolenborn Год назад
If I play wizard and multiclass Cleric at my level 4, what cantrips should I take? I heard some of them require wisdom while some others don't. Where can I check which ones do?
@szentekkel
@szentekkel Год назад
sorcerer was my first love in D&D I feel like I have to play it first
@JogoBelIa
@JogoBelIa 7 месяцев назад
I haven't played warlock yet, but the dialogues between the sorcerer Tav and Gale are just gold 😂
@namelessdrifter651
@namelessdrifter651 Год назад
I think a Paladin and Fighter comparison would be very good. I think a lot of people are deciding between these 2 for any tank class they want to play.
@ziwuri
@ziwuri Год назад
you have to have barbarian in there for tank classes (and honestly fighter as well)
@MayHugger
@MayHugger Год назад
Personally I see them more compared for damage.
@Danceofmasks
@Danceofmasks Год назад
Dex is a god stat in 5e ... 20 dex finesse melee compared to platemail boils down to 1 less AC but take a lot less damage from the most common save in Dexterity. In tabletop, halfling dex tank is one of my favourite archetypes, due to being able to move through larger creatures' squares for positioning ... In this game, however, they changed stat bonuses off race to effectively wherever you want instead, so I'm guessing you can go dex tank with any race. If you think of it that way, the conversation about tanking could include other candidates like ranger.
@MayHugger
@MayHugger Год назад
@@Danceofmasks Could say the same for Rogue. Evasion and Uncanny Dodge make them pretty hard to put down despite their low hit die.
@Danceofmasks
@Danceofmasks Год назад
@@MayHugger Ye, I've played a rogue (assassin) who took shield proficiency (after getting dex to 20) just 'cos it's hilarious to shank someone in surprise round with a charge, then laugh maniacally as they try to surround me, and the wizard drops a fireball right on my face. XD
@thepews1511
@thepews1511 Год назад
8:24 LMFAO I heard the judgment in your voice he said if you wanna be a GOOD character and CONVINCE people instead FORCING them 😂😂😂
@Fextralife
@Fextralife Год назад
HA!
@jurgen4466
@jurgen4466 Год назад
You xan pick background to get persuasion both for warlock and Wisard!
@jbshbsskskhbs6713
@jbshbsskskhbs6713 Год назад
The ability to cast more than one leveled spell per turn is a huge buff to sorcerer compared to tabletop D&D. Especially with haste, you can get off three fireballs in one round thanks to quickened spell meta-magic, and thats not even counting items that give you extra bonus actions. If you want to do big burst spell damage, I don't think the Wizard or Warlock can compare.
@garion046
@garion046 Год назад
The vid states early on that the comparison of spellcasting at level 5 is 6 Warlock and 9 Sorcerer and 9 wizard, but with warlock casting all 6 spells at level 3 slot. This is mostly how it is, but there's subtle differences, which the vid sort of overs later but to put it all together: Warlock: 6 x Level 3 spells, only 2 per SR. Sorcerer: 2 x Level 3, 3 x Level 2, 4 x Level 1 spells, can add some extra slots by converting sorcery points, or twin some spells for extra 'casting', or do different metamagic. Wizard: 3 x Level 3, 4 x Level 2, 4 x Level 1, accounting for arcane recovery. Also consider each class has different spell choices. Wizard gets the most versatility, and can copy extra spells into their spellbook from scrolls etc. Warlocks get the least but get invocations to cast certain Level 1 spells at will or enhance the eldritch blast cantrip (which is by far their staple action in combat).
@TheRedneckGamer1979
@TheRedneckGamer1979 Год назад
I was sad that Divine Soul sorc and Celestial Warlock were not part of the base game, thank god for mods. Distant spell is REALLY good for divine soul, so many of the cleric spell list spells are touch range, being able to do a big heal at 30 feet is nice.
@angmori172
@angmori172 Год назад
1 minute into the vid and I am already picking warlock based on the much better style of dress
@Sheamu5
@Sheamu5 Год назад
I only recently got into the early access to get a taste of the game before launch, started with Sorcerer, and it's pretty strong both in and out of combat, though it feels very squishy. For launch Warlock seems the most interesting to me, the Fey pact in particular.
@UlissesSampaio
@UlissesSampaio Год назад
One thing that I would like to hear is how to make a "spellblade", but more focused on the spell side of things. I.e. main mage/sorcerer/warlock with small dip in a martial class.
@PSIworld13
@PSIworld13 Год назад
Swords Bards are generally very good at this, with their spells disabling the enemy and your sword doing the damage. they don't really get too many offensive spells, but the status spells are great.
@williamyoung9401
@williamyoung9401 Год назад
"Thanks for checking out Fextralife, and we'll see ya next time." 'cue music'
@RealLifeIronMan
@RealLifeIronMan Год назад
Generally: Warlock: All day Blasting (Best consistent damage) Sorcerer: a few Nova blasts and some utility spells (Best at turn one kills) Wizard: Knows more spells (opens up the most utility options) Hint: Warlocks almost always want to multiclass.
@danpower7416
@danpower7416 Год назад
Since there is no artificer (which is arguably the best choice for multiclassing with wizard), I would just go straight wizard without multiclassing since you may not benefit too much from any given combination compared to what you lose with the multiclassing itself. But maybe I'll try it out. In my current playthrough I made Wyll a Warlock with a dip into bard (7 warlock, 4 bard at the moment) which works pretty well with pact of the blade and college of swords.
@Neonmirrorblack
@Neonmirrorblack Год назад
Sorlock (Sorcerer/Warlock dip 2 - 3 levels) can convert their Warlock points into Sorcery points in PnP. Meaning that the Sorcery side can actually benefit from short rests to get some spells back. Not sure how this game handles it.
@moviebad109
@moviebad109 Год назад
Warlock is definitely my favorite. I’ve been having a blast on my multi classed fighter (lvl 1) warlock (level 4) with pact of the blade wearing +1 chainmail. Lol It fits the dark urge half orc origin. I get triple dice roll melee crits from half orc, heavy armor, second wind, and eventually action surge from fighter, and a halberd as my pact weapon. Anything dumb enough to get close to him learns the business. Anyone dumb enough to stay away gets eldritch blasted into oblivion because of my 20 charisma. That 15 non-crit max roll is just delightful.
@Baraborn
@Baraborn Год назад
This is a great idea for a video. I was going to multiclass from one of these into another. This should really help.
@Senzeil
@Senzeil Год назад
Great video. Before I express my feedback here's a full disclaimer : I haven't checked your other videos yet but I'm about too. With that out of the way here's a video that I would like to see : a sort of beginner tutorial / entry to this universe. I'm honestly very new to this universe and don't understand some words used or what they entice (like saving throw, disadvantage, etc etc). It would be very lovely if you could make an introductory video explaining some of the basics concepts of this game. This might already exist and be a lot of work but I really like how you explain and articulate so it would be very nice coming from you. Anyway, I'll catch up eventually so don't stress over it. Thank you for taking the time to read my comment (if you ever did hehehe) and I look forward to seeing more videos from you. Cheers !
@Fextralife
@Fextralife Год назад
We made videos for that a few years ago. You can find the series linked on the bg3 wiki homepage baldursgate3.wiki.fextralife.com/Baldur%27s+Gate+3+Wiki
@Senzeil
@Senzeil Год назад
@@Fextralife thank you :)
@Legnica148
@Legnica148 Год назад
I'm so anxious to play this game fully... These have been the longest days ever
@rafaelyser7935
@rafaelyser7935 Год назад
Can't wait for the melee martials of Paladin, Barbarian, and Fighter. I'm curious who you'd might multiclass with Barbarian, with some of the new 5e-modified rulings in BG3 (rage isn't STR specific anymore). And where does Druid fit in?
@stephens021
@stephens021 Год назад
Barbarian/Rogue can be OP with rage and sneak attack. As for Druid not my thing but they do have power.
@revaniac
@revaniac Год назад
Warlock multiclass with Paladin? Perfect. Those are the two classes I wanted to Play anyway.
@soulechelon2643
@soulechelon2643 Год назад
Wow. I was just thinking I can make a sorcerer/thief and bam, it seems there is some real synergy there. Awesome.
@Ev1L0rd
@Ev1L0rd Год назад
The main difference I like to tell people for Warlocks compared to other casters is that they're extremely good for improv. Given that they have so many utility capabilities between Invocations, their (admittedly limited) spells and being able to play martial capabilities, not to mention they're able to get a tonne of skills, you can build them with swiss army knives where they may never excel at anything, but will be useful in plenty of situations. For this same reason, I often recommend bards to people that are newer to the system because they're much more straight-forward.
@jamesbell9830
@jamesbell9830 Год назад
If its 5e ruleset, the quickened spell will only quicken a cantrip so you can use a spell requiring a spell slot and a cantrip, not two spells, just fyi
@bl1ndrag3
@bl1ndrag3 Год назад
If you think of the Warlock as more of a spell based Fighter, with abilities that come back on a Short Rest, it feels better. Trying to think of it as a gimped Wizard is just wrong. It's my fave for tabletop, nice to see its going to be similar in BG3. Looking forward to it
@fredkrawczun5554
@fredkrawczun5554 Год назад
It was very useful, thank you. Want to hear about Barbarian, Fighter and Paladin. Synergy through strength. 👍
@gk4204
@gk4204 Год назад
Paladin/Warlock sounds fun. Kind of a “light and dark” combo. Thank you for the great vid.
@BL00DYME55
@BL00DYME55 11 месяцев назад
Only if you pick the Oath of Devotion paladin, cause that's your standard Lawful Good paladin archetype. Well, and Oath of the Ancients is kinda neutral good I suppose. The best combo with the warlock (RP-wise anyway) would be Oath of Vengeance or even better - the Oathbreaker. The former is kind of "avenge by all means necessary" type of paladin, and the latter is outright evil paladin.
@ChaoticGoodPeasant23
@ChaoticGoodPeasant23 Год назад
'The Power' playing in the background. *Chef's kiss*
@RonnieMcDee
@RonnieMcDee Год назад
in 5e there is a Warlock invocation that gives advantage on con saves. I forgot what it is called, but you can get it at level 1.
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