Big Air Kite Test 4 - North Orbit Pro : '24 North Orbit : Cabrinha Nitro : Duotone Evo D/Lab

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Here is the latest episode in my series of kite tests, comparing some of the best recent big air kites on the market. I was super fortunate to get some time on the 2024 North Orbit, and the upcoming Orbit Pro, so I gave them a blast and spoke about each of them, and their main differences from the most recent kites I have been riding.
In the video I mention the high-quality new lines I have ordered from The Line Smith, you can order your own here:
www.thelinesmith.eu/
I should also say that I bought my Duotone gear from KBL Sports and that they have been great to deal with, replacing for free my broken Duotone lines, and ordering me the other parts that have deteriorated so quickly. My frustrations with the gear have no way been a reflection on my experience dealing with their shop:
www.kiteboardinglessons.com.a...
A huge thanks to North NZ for allowing me to borrow the gear for this review, and to my local supplier of North Gear, NZ Boardstore.
nzboardstore.co.nz/
One more thanks to Cabrinha, for helping to get me on the Nitro from my previous video, I highly recommend watching that review as well because it is another amazing kite:
www.cabrinha.com/
As always please like & subscribe if you enjoyed the video, and follow Instagram for more up-to-date kite adventures, including my upcoming trip to Cape Town for hopefully some new aluula kite tests!
‪@jasonofmontreal‬
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@getsharp 8 месяцев назад

The only no BS kite review on the web. I also liked that you underline that you don’t want pro kite, unless you already outgrown the regular models. Great work Jason, thank you!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Thanks mate. With my riding being only moderately decent, and video editing skills far below par, I’ve gotta make up for them with quality information 😂

@getsharp 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal your narration is great and full of useful info, which is what matters. There is enough epic videos with zero value out there. You’re indexing on the right side, Cheers!

@mikehannan8206 8 месяцев назад

Ony moderately decent he says, while I cry at my sub 10m efforts😂😢😢😢

@getsharp 8 месяцев назад

@@mikehannan8206 humble brag 🤫

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@mikehannan8206 there's no where to go but up they say 🫡

@Kleeblatt2304 8 месяцев назад

Such an outstanding video. On other RU-vid-Channels the so-called "reviews" are simply ads disguised as tests

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I found that as well, which is why I started making these for fun really

@Vanguard6945 29 дней назад

so true

@danyosen 25 дней назад

I really appreciate your honesty and openness about your experiences with duotone. Nowadays a seldom thing to find where nearly everybody is sponsored in any way and uses YT as marketing platform. This gives your channel incomparable value. Cheers and thx mate!

@jasonofmontreal 25 дней назад

@@danyosen thanks mate, not trying to shit on any brands, just recall my experiences

@larssol1 8 месяцев назад

I love this - again! Unbiased reviews we all hunger for ❤😊

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Thanks

@abramovdan 8 месяцев назад

Another great review! I switched to orbits from evo sls partly after watching your videos and started pulling kiteloops on my first session! Super happy! Thanks for the great videos!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

That’s awesome to hear, keep up the progress 🤘

@collegepros 8 месяцев назад

Yes please for reviewing the OR 5s Flite. I have 2 Aluula Flites in 14.5 and 17. Best light air kites I’ve flown. I’m not a huge fan of Ocean Rodeo designs, but once you go Aluula it’s hard to go back to Dacron. I’m so disappointed about the EVO d-lab issues! I was going to start building my EVO quiver next. My buddy say’s his EVO D-lab 10m is the best kite he’s ever flown! Luckily, he hasn’t had issues. But his friends have had struts come apart while riding on their EVO d-labs! 🤦‍♂️ I have Flysurfer Souls I use for water and snow, but with Aluula, I’m wanting to use tube kites for water now. I haven’t known anyone to have issues with their A-series Ocean Rodeo kites. I wonder what the heck is going on with Duotone.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I think everyone would like to know, but when you command over 40% of the market already it doesn't seem to be a large enough issue to affect them...

@tm6360 8 месяцев назад

Jason, thank you for the indepth review! Great quality content

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

My pleasure

@moffmo 8 месяцев назад

Another great review! I’m loving my 2024 orbit and I like the changes. I like the increased hangtime from the slightly slower loop. The orbit for me is a kite that just feels intuitive. It does what I want when I want it

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

its super friendly for big air that's for sure

@ImpossibleOne 8 месяцев назад

Best impartial reviews out there. The community has needed something like this for years. Really enjoy. All the best with your holiday! Thanks

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

thanks

@collegepros 8 месяцев назад

I very much appreciate your honest, thoughtful reviews.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

thanks

@collegepros 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal you’re welcome!

@markosimic360 8 месяцев назад

Awesome job bro. Keep going and looking forward for next kite tests and comparisons 🤘🤘🤘

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

cheers

@AdrianKerr 8 месяцев назад

Awesome work, Jason!!! Another great video.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Cheers bro, just trying to send the trap 🤘😂

@AdrianKerr 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal lol love it.

@maciejtyrcz 8 месяцев назад

great job J ! can't wait to see XR Pro shredding from you !

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Thanks

@Cheoz0r86 8 месяцев назад

My first kites were duotone then switched to crazyfly and now riding core. After 4 years i gotta say core it's by bar the most reliable and durable also living in northern ireland where gusty winds are always in the menu the XRs perform sublime with their so called old tech pulleys

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

They certainly are one of the more durable kites, but you do need to keep your eyes on the bars as there are a few parts that deteriorate rather quickly, nothing like I’ve found with my trust bar mind you

@gboates 8 месяцев назад

My path exactly, maybe it's the Irish in us!

@gboates 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontrealthe parts that wear in Core bars are: A. obvious B. affordable and C. Easily replaced even by me! Note to Core Bar Owners: get the carbon centre lines for your 3S bars and be prepared for lift off!

@dajobra 8 месяцев назад

Dutch guy here, ended up at core. I also have a juice dlab 13, the aluula is magic, but dt canopy material looks older after one summer then my xr6 11m after 3 years. I switch the pigtails on my core bar and avoid the dt bar. I do replace parts on my core bar, but it has never ever failed me.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@dajobra yup, similar eco to me

@geoffreywaterson6679 8 месяцев назад

Primo flat water and kickers sessions there - Orewa and Murawai at their best. Another great video update. As many have said in comments here, its awesome getting feedback that isn't paid/biased. Passion, enjoyment and fair + honest reviews --> what the industry needs. See you when you get back from Cape Town!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

looking forward to it, I got some kites for you to test 😂

@Sam.constable 8 месяцев назад

Awesome review once again! After seeing your Insta post about the trust bar, I checked mine. Very thankful. I’d worn through the plastic completely and had worn a 1-2mm groove through the stainless steel bolt underneath. Centre line still was solid. My local shop gave me a new line and plastic piece (apparently they’re a consumable. Plastic peice is $20aud). I agree with you, it shouldn’t happen this quickly and hopefully they use a material with better properties next year. This is the first year they used a thinner line there which has the forces more concentrated and accelerates the wear. I’ll keep an eye on my bar in that area now and happily continue to.. trust.. it. Plastic coated lines scare me way more. I’ve snapped centre lines due to wear from trapped sand. Also for the y split, I’ve only ever seen it have an abrasive edge if it’s been opened and the ring shifts slightly. Never had an issue with the kites myself. Also, would love to hear your thoughts on the new rebel, pivot and hyper model ! Cheers legend.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the good feedback... re the splitter, like anything in kiting, I'm sure the vast majority are fine, but it's just the risk of what if that you have to watch out for. The old V splitter is fine so if you can get one, I suggest swapping to it to remove just one more potential area of wear.

@aaronblankenbyl 8 месяцев назад

Great review. In summary, not buying a dlab. But a 9m and 12m Orbit pro :)

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

just depends on your riding style I guess 😂

@Luis-ni5zx 8 месяцев назад

Since recently I was riding the Duotone Rebel SLS and I only had issues. Within one kiteseason, I had to replace the bladder of the leading edge three times because it was leaking and one time it even exploded mid air. I also had the lines of my bar snapping during a loop (during my second session), which luckily was not that high. I switched to new the Orbits and I absolutely love the kites and how high quality everything feels.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

This seems to be all too common

@MrCurt500 8 месяцев назад

I think it's very good that you're addressing problems with material quality. I'm just about to buy new equipment (my current kites are still from 2014-2016 and are just getting old), but I read the same thing about all the kites I'm interested in. North Orbit 2023 -> explodes randomly (in the latest reel of Jamie overbeek you can see even a 24 pro model just pop mid air in the background) Duotone dice sls / Evo Dlab -> same thing. A lot of stories were they just give up on the tube. I think it’s worth a discussion if the performance gains of the „new“ lightweight approaches are worth the risk of a potential serious injury.

@flover566 8 месяцев назад

I think the orbit pro in Jamies video is on the flagline. It is holding shape and falling quickly. If it explodes it will fall slower. The 2023 orbits from a bad batch are replaced under warranty.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I know there was a big recall of 2023 North Orbits, so I was under the impression that the issue was fixed?

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@flover566 great points, I just watched the clip and I think you are right.

@MrCurt500 8 месяцев назад

Yes in the reel it’s hard to tell, because it’s so far away and it could also just be the kite turning in the wind. And yes there was a recall of the 23 model, but at least in the forums and on Facebook you could read that even some new kites out of that recall did break again. I just have the feel in general (without a focus on a particular brand), that with the lightweight design choices the kites are more delicate, and that’s not the greatest feel when you want to boost 20m high. So for now I’m a little bit lost in my purchases choice.

@atez1231 8 месяцев назад

I was on the spot (Mirns, Netherlands), @flover566 is correct, the tube of the Orbit Pro did not explode, just flagging out for some reason

@KnockKnockwhosthere9 8 месяцев назад

By far the best reviews out there for the intermediate/advanced riders. Thank you Jason! Would love to see a review of the F-One Trigger

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

thanks, but I'm afraid we don't have F-One down here

@maxrousseau8517 8 месяцев назад

I hope that you could also take a look at the xr pro and the Harlem Force (Lorenzo Casati’s new kite). Would be really interesting. Love your videos! Keep the good work up!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Can’t wait to try to Xr pro 🤘

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Or the Harlem of course, I'm not even sure if they have them in CT though...

@jasonofmontreal 6 месяцев назад

I got to try it briefly, but not in good enough conditions to review unfortunately

@christianr8898 8 месяцев назад

Hi, i am joining the big thank you train! Keep it up 🍻 I recently switched from XR6 to 8/10 Orbits and 12 Reach. Just wanted to try something new, maybe midlife crisis 😂 Didn’t regret it, i am really enjoying the xtra fly speed and playful bar feeling so far. I never had any quality issues with core or the 3 pro bar. The slim and minimal design of the bar is awesome and they have some nice details on their products in general. At the end it is all personal preferences and maybe amount of pocket money.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Happy to help, love the core range too of course, there's always different preferences for different riding styles, and its fun to try new things.

@arnontario 3 месяца назад

Hi, wanted to ask why you chose 8/10/12 instead of 7/9/12? I'm looking at buying the same setup and wondering between the 2 for my 82kg to cover any wind range. And why not a 13m Reach instead of 12? Tx

@casparguo7300 8 месяцев назад

Great video maker, i wouldn't miss any episode of the kite testing from you! Just receive my 10m orbit pro！😁

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Cheers

@707rudo 8 месяцев назад

Lit AF 😂 , good job Jays, hanging out for your next video.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

cheers

@armandowindboy 8 месяцев назад

Epic review Jason, as always! Sorry if I got on your way that day at Orewa 😜🚀

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

You’re never in the way, your kite sometimes just likes a little cuddle I recon 😂

@liohoboho 8 месяцев назад

Very good and honest review. It will be interesting to see a test of the Airush Lift v3, one of the best kites I've flown and very soon there will be a Lift V3 Team equivalent of D-lab.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I'm afraid we don't have AR here in NZ but I'll keep an eye out for a chance to try it

@nicollasresende 8 месяцев назад

Keep up with the great content!!!!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Will do

@andreaszierhofer3078 8 месяцев назад

Thanks, great work as always!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

thanks

@MrLeoGrand 8 месяцев назад

Awesome video, thanks mate. Seems like you have great conditions up there. Cheers

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Sometimes it is amazing, other times we have to wait a week or two for wind... we don't have a day in day out season, but we do get a lot of wind when you consider the whole year an be windy

@coltorpay8039 8 месяцев назад

Loving how your reviews cut through the marketing being pushed around by big brands while staying fair. It’s time brands provide best in class lines to go with those best in class kites.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I don't know why Duotone didn't just say, here are our standard lines for wave/foil, and here are some BIG AIR specific lines for $100 more... they'd sell a lot

@coltorpay8039 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal I was thinking afterwards that if Brands started releasing a 'Pro' vs 'standard' set of lines the optics might suggest one is maybe safer than the other, since that's such a primary function of a bar compared to a kite, but creating a specific 'Big Air' line is definitely another good way to think of it without implying that you're sacraficing safety by going with the 'Surf' or 'foil' lines. Anyway great work with the reviews.

@Gorops 8 месяцев назад

I would love to see the reviews of Eleveight, Harlem, Epic and Flysurfer kites done as well. Thanks for your input!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

those are pretty tricky brands to get hold of in NZ, but ill keep my eye out for them

@anderslarsson8544 8 месяцев назад

Tnx a bunch Jason, love to to watch your vids. Have a mix of North kites. 12m Reach 2021, 10m Orbit 2023 and a2021, 9m reach 2022 ,8m Orbit 2021. Watching this latest I get The impression that the 2023 is a better choice than the 2024 if you like fast kites?! Really would love to get a large kite 12m that is fast enough to loop …and was really considering Evo D-lab so big thanks for saving me some $$$. 😂

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I’ve looped an orbit 12, you just need to be pretty high (8-9m) to make sure it’ll catch you. The ocean rodeo rise looped the fastest of the kites I’ve tried, but I’m not sure how durable it is.

@MatDGVLL 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for The Line Smith link ❤‍🔥

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

No problem

@sanderpsychologie 8 месяцев назад

Awesome Jason again!! Would love to see the Slingshot Machine, new Flysurfer Era, Harlem Force, reedin hypermodel, Airush Lift, Lacuna Alpha one day 😊

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I have a few of those on my radar, I know the fabulous couple who took over Lacuna and they certainly know their shit!

@sanderpsychologie 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal awesome!!!

@WindgoblinKite 8 месяцев назад

Another great one excellent

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

thanks

@renekallas8560 8 месяцев назад

I really enjoy your videos! Especially because I’m also a 95kg rider. I’d love to see a comparison between more underdog brands in big air like Eleveight, Flysurfer, Crazyfly, Airush etc. After few reviews and a testival I decided to get a range of Eleveight XS. After riding XR’s and Orbits I think it’s right in the middle of this two and combines them perfectly.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I’m afraid we just don’t have access to that many brands in NZ

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

But I did really enjoy the Eleveight XS v3 in the first video I made

@narutolis1 8 месяцев назад

Great comprehensive review as always! Could you please review the F-one Trigger?? There are no reviews about it 🙈 I'm going to CapeTown in January so I could let you use mine

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I’m afraid I won’t be there by then.

@chrisswanson8290 8 месяцев назад

Sick review! Would love to see you review the XR Pro!!!!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

hopefully i can get on one soon

@maximehenault3828 8 месяцев назад

These reviews are really well done! I would love to see you try and review the new Sonic 4 from Flysurfer. These foil kites offer hangtime and boost that isn't even comparable with any other kite that I have tried. I think you would really like them!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I will definitely get around to flying some foils at some point, one of the local Pros Hugo @hugowigglesworth8077 rides for flysurfer and what he does with them is amazing, but it would be hard to compare them in the format I use because one of the big points I'm looking at is how they loop... but I'll certainly try one and film it when I get the chance!

@chi1i 8 месяцев назад

Nice video!! Would love your impressions of the new Flysurfer Era if it releases while you're still in CT!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Team rider Hugo is on my woo worlds team and hopefully I'll be able to try one of his at some point

@MrSpanishPeanuts 8 месяцев назад

Awesome content.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Thanks

@marcinmdk6084 8 месяцев назад

Great stuff Jason! Many thanks for this reviews. Any other review comparing to yours are pretty pale. Cheers

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

thanks

@MrR4W 8 месяцев назад

Thanks mate!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

no problem

@christianlaewe5895 5 месяцев назад

Who knows if you are just testing to give us your opinion.or do you have other interests?😜😜🤣🤣🤭🤭 I know pro riders in person , they had never issues with their duotone equipment.and they ride day and night in strong conditions. Maybe you just got a bad trust bar ….just unlucky .☝🥴 I tried a orbit 12m , a reach 15m , a 12m Neo 2022 and one day i was flying my 15m F-one Breeze . After that I tried a 13m evo d lab from a friend …. I was so surprised about this kite. Amazing ! Unbelievable kite !!!! I ordered a new 12m Neo d lab and a 15 m demo juice d lab. Plus a new trust bar …..- can not wait to go kiting here / (Cape Verde) . I am from Germany and stay here for 6 month .let’s see ….☝🤙🏾🤙🏾

@jasonofmontreal 5 месяцев назад

Watch all my reviews, I report what I find. You should also consider that the top pros like Andrea for example change bars every month, so they are not used to a lot of wear on gear... and many of pro riders compete with custom lines these days, I have seen this first hand at KOTA.

@carptackula7536 4 месяца назад

Love your channel and depth you go into for every review! Innocent question: How much do you think kicking your lines with your board's rail, to squeeze out a higher Woo score has anything (if anything) to do with snapping a line? (eg like how you kick the line with your edge at 2min 33sec. I realise that is not where the lines snapped in your videos, but I'm curious). I'm not defending DT - you've convinced me to try a different manufacturer for my next purchase. They seem more intent on selling products and dealing with warranty claims after the fact, than making good quality products to start with. This is happening across many industries. I'm over that ! So glad you and your buddies landed safely!

@jasonofmontreal 4 месяца назад

I would say not at all, I don't do it that often, I just tend to over-emphasise woosting like that for these videos so the board is in frame etc. Lots of brands have had issues with manufacturing, particularly with new materials in the last 2-3 years so they are no alone in these issues. I brought up the line issues because I rated the kites the best I'd ever flown in previous video, and the breaks happened so quickly to a few of us. I still use my 3 dlabs are my primary kites btw, and they are still the best big air kites you can ride overall, just not perhaps for progressing riders

@raulh7814 8 месяцев назад

Best review I’ve ever seen anyone do I’m so many different levels. Have you tested a Naish pívot before? Curious…

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I covered the 2022 one I think in my first video. Great all around kite for general riding and progression, but not one of my favourites for big air

@raulh7814 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal I saw that!! Great review as well!! Thank you!!

@Mrelystar 8 месяцев назад

Looking for your Reedin Hyper Model test ride 😎 Interesting alternative with aluula materials. Thx for these kind of video, love it !

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

That would certainly be an interesting one

@daniel____371 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal Would be nice indeed to have a 3 strut aluula comparison, since these 3 strut kites are taking it up against the traditional 5 strut big air kites. The hypermodel is out now. Already saw a slingshot code Aluula flying. Probably also a nexus aluula is coming out. Furthermore the eleveight rs+ is also 3 strut and lighter/stronger LE. BTW bought 2023 10m orbit because of your videos :)

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@daniel____371 I’d love to fly them all, it’s just tricky to get hold of them when none of those brands have shops in NZ 😂

@dajobra 8 месяцев назад

I just switch the pigtails on my core bar and use it for my d lab, works like a charm

@dajobra 8 месяцев назад

Side note, Harlem force, 5 strut ocean rodeo flight and core xrPro reviews would be awesome. I know the harlem guy's and they are super nice, I am sure you can find them in cape town

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@dajobra I'd love to give it a blast, hopefully I can meet them in CT while I'm there. The Core lines definitely seem more durable, but I have to be honest I've had to replace a few parts on the bar twice since I got mine in 2021. I'd say if you ride a lot the centre lines, pigtails, and the centre part of bar the lines run through will need replacing every 8-12 months. A better option than breaking for sure.

@dajobra 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal I have 2, 22 and 24 meter, that spreads the load. I also replace the bar inserts once a year or so, no problem for me.

@criticalslidekitesurfsardi9134 8 месяцев назад

very nice videos !!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

thanks

@justjonty28 8 месяцев назад

4:59 riding the Orbit how it’s supposed to be ridden… lit AF 🤌🏼🤌🏼 hahaha

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

where the fun starts 😂

@laurence_sebastian 8 месяцев назад

Great video thanks for sharing! Unfortunate that Duotone can not sort out their quality issues. They had many issues in the past with their lines a couple years back they finally changed them but as it seems it did not fix all their issues completely. How would you say does the Evo SLS compare to the Rebel SLS in terms of looping the kite.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I’m afraid I’ve not tried the Evo sls… but I did love the 2023 rebel sls and was surprised how well it looped for how much power it had and how easy it was to ride

@bigayal1979 8 месяцев назад

Well done…again 😉… subscribed 👍

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

thannks

@JelleKites 8 месяцев назад

These reviews are great! Already looking forward to the next one. Would you say lines is the major DT issue? A set of Sk99 lines are a good fix then..

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I think the lines on the trust bar at least are at least... it looks like their pro team seems to know this too because it looks like they use different lines on Instagram... as I mentioned, it seems that the bladders do go pretty easily, and we did have a pigtail break too already...

@dpwild328 8 месяцев назад

I have an Ocean Rodeo 5 strut Flite, 10m. I am loving it, but I'm not jumping as high as you. I also don't have the experience on the variety of kites you do. I'm also a full size kiter as well and would love to hear what you think of it.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I love the rise, although I didn't find it to be one of the best boosters like the evo dlab. Similar height potential to the Orbit I was riding at the time. I'm hoping to try the Flite at some stage.

@mediumme7101 8 месяцев назад

Another great Big Air Kite Test. Thank you for your insights. D-Lab has its downsides after all. You wouldn't have a coupon code for the line smith shop :P ?

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I’m afraid not 🤷‍♀️

@sebastianinnez3395 8 месяцев назад

My duotone lines have snapped 4x in the past 2 years.... Luckily not during any big jumps

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Time to order some from the line smith I think

@Federico2K9 8 месяцев назад

I tried the 2024 orbit today straight after riding my 2023 9m. I felt less bar pressure in the 24 and it felt more agile… am I wrong ?

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

The differences are very minor, and conditions can change quickly depending on how windy it was, so you are not necessarily wrong, I am just reporting on my experiences of course.

@bondvillansarebest 8 месяцев назад

I'm hoping you can get on the airush lift and new lacuna kites in Capetown.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

will see what I can do

@lk9296 8 месяцев назад

what would you say is the best orbit size to learn kiteloops? is a 7m easier to learn on than an 8m? what would you say is a safe looping height for a 7m and a 9m orbit or is there no difference? thanks for your help!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I would say 8m is kind of in the sweet spot between fast and stable... A 7m will get around faster, but it's probably harder to control, unless you're really used to them of course. I learnt loops originally trying them on an 8m dice, 9m vegas, and 10m dice in 2018/2019. The 8m dice was the easiest, but I hardly ever had the wind for it to I would get more sessions practicing on the 9 and 10.

@schums123 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the amazing content! I’m a beginner kiter starting on progressing my jumps. I’m riding mostly a switchblade 12 and 9m, but find them to be a bit slow and very heavy bar pressure. Out of your amazing experience, which kite would you recommend with light bar pressure and possibility for progression? Also, anything with aluula that is worth considering? Cheers!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Well my wife is at that level as well and she loves the Reach I got her. It is very light on the bar and super easy to use and progress with. I think some other 3 strut kites like the Moto X from Cabrinha, or even the Reedin supermodels are great all-arounder and progression kites.

@bjpastoor 8 месяцев назад

"I've never snapped a line with my Core or North gear" @2:35 pushes board edge against the lines.. maybe it started after doing that..?

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

That would be pretty obvious and noticeable wear on the directional lines… It’s been the centre lines snapping for us and further up the lines, far out of reach… not to mention the board touching the lines like that is pretty rare even when woosting to the max

@vikingh3008 8 месяцев назад

Duotone lines are well known for snapping, so are the bladders in the sls

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

yeah, the lines issues seems like areally easy fix

@settwig 8 месяцев назад

Hello Jason, thank you for the great content. I am currently riding a 12 and 9m 2023 Orbit and learning loops. Currently jumping around 8 to 10m with downloops. I want to switch my quiver, as the gap from 12 to 9 is to big imo, to 12 Reach, 10 and 8 Orbit. When money is not a point, do you recoment the pro? I like faster kites and also the design of the pro. Greetings from germany

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

As I mentioned in the video, the standard orbit is better for progressing faster in the smaller sizes, you might want to consider the standard 8, and the 10 pro.

@Tobi_Bike1 8 месяцев назад

Very interesting this video. Im thinking about getting North, Core or Duotone. But when I saw the first rounds of Kota 2023 I noticed, that all the North competitors at Kota are jumping 3 meter lower than the other Brands? Seems that the performance is not the best from North.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

If you watch each of my videos you’ll see I consistently mention and score Orbits lower in boosting/woosting. I think XR, Edge, Rebel or Evo Dlab all have higher jumping potential, they’re just usually harder to use for loops and other progression…. There’s always a trade off

@bjornktes5047 8 месяцев назад

Amazing video! Have you tried the slingshot kites, the code and the machine?

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

No, unfortunately we don’t have slingshot in NZ. The newer aluula ones Jeremy Burlando is riding look pretty special

@artyfly100 8 месяцев назад

Question, does a kite like the orbit/nitro make a lot of difference in looping progression compared to let's say a slingshot RPX which is what I ride? Have you thought of doing a test comparing freestyle oriented kites to dedicated big air/freeride kites? Thanks and keep up the good work!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I’m afraid we don’t have Slingshot here so I’ve not ridden the RPX. My guess would be it is quite a bit more challenging to learn to loop on as the pull is likely more aggressive and the catch less forgiving

@meindertdeboer6120 8 месяцев назад

Perfect quiver overall for loop progression from 20 knt upwards . I am 40 years and ride my 17 XR till 20-22 knt for airstyle tricks with multi board offs and rotations. But wanna progress my standard loops with a board off loop etc just doing a Lb this year on a XR 7 8 mtr kite I would like to renew my quiver but want to progress early as possible in the lowest wind possible like 20 knt or so….. Which size and type of kites you recommend 10 or 11 orbit, evo dlab, rise etc. I am around 78 kg and tt 133,5 cm

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I found the OR Rise aluula looped the fastest of the 10m sizes, but at your weight you could get away with a 9m dlab because of the awesome wind range. If you don't want to splash out on aluula then the Orbits or Nitros are amazing. There are a lot of other brands now with or coming out with Aluula, so I'm not so sure which will be the best of them so perfect quiver is really hard to say.

@booblugon1036 8 месяцев назад

Are lines snapping also the same issue on the clickers? and why didn't you go for the clickbar in your dlabs?

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I don't know about the click bars, but I would worry about any bar with the v splitter the can be separated into two pieces. I chose the Trust bar, because I used to own a duotone click bar in 2019 before I switched to North gear, and I found with it that after about 6-8 months, the internal lines in the bar snapped, and the centre plastic TPU over the centre lines wore out so much that I couldn't sheet out the bar after a heli loop or two. I also noticed all the of the big air team riders used the trust bar so I though that would be a more reliable and durable option.

@alexcelli2545 8 месяцев назад

Hi Jason, do you think the problem is due to the type of lines or due to the V distributor? I was thinking of purchasing a north or reedin bar that use the SK99 lines but I'm worried that using the v distributor might end up ruining them anyway...I'm terrified of this type of problem especially with strong winds but...

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I don't understand enough about lines and friction and everything else to know... From seeing two lines in person either snap or wear almost to snapping right at the V Distributor I am sure that is part of the problem, but the second set of duotone trust bar lines that snapped was not at the V, and it was BOTH centre lines, so I have to say it's also the lines they use. Their lines are much thinner than other lines, so my amateur opinion is that they take much less wear before they're ready to go

@alexcelli2545 8 месяцев назад

@jasonmontreal I change my set of Dutone lines for North (lyros DC401 pro) and I felt a big difference in how the kite perform: more drag and harder to push the kite to the edge od the WW...it's just me or do you feel the same?Have you switch only front lines and pigtail keeping Duotone rear line?Have you ever try infexion lines?thank you very much

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@alexcelli2545 I switched to lines from the line smith, there is a little additional drag I think… but it’s very close

@devosdav 8 месяцев назад

Thanks again for the awesome reviews. I'm planning on buying the orbits but am hesitant to buy the north bar because of no auto swivel. Did you ever try reedin, naish bar or any other low v with the orbits that worked just as fine?

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I don’t usually love bars with auto-swivel… they tend to jam up or have parts that need replacing quickly. I preferred the north bar to the ones you mentioned, but any of them should work fine with orbits

@devosdav 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal thanks for the quick reply, really appreciate it. I'm rly happy with my naish bar, auto swivel always worked perfectly. However rly need a new bar now. I think i'll go with the navigator.bar instead.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@devosdav I hear rumours north have a new bar coming early 2024… could have what you’re after…

@aymericl2051 8 месяцев назад

Awesome video Jason👏I recently got the 2024 Orbit in 8m and loved the extra stability and bar pressure! For me this 2024 8m has been a game changer to keep balance in my loop board off tricks! Now I struggle to decide to go for the 10m Pro or the standard one 😄I'm concerned about the slower loops on the standard 2024 in 10m size compared to the previous model but on the other hand the Pro might be a bit too performance oriented as I'm more into progression than woo scores :) Have you had a chance to try this year's 10m? Cheers 🤙

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

If you're doing loop board offs you're ready for the Pro, I haven't tried it, but think it would be a worthwhile upgrade from the standard in 10m

@aymericl2051 8 месяцев назад

So cool you're taking the time to respond to every single comment of the video ! Thanks for your valuable advice 🙌

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@aymericl2051 luckily there are not too many after the first couple days 😂

@lucajacquemet7415 8 месяцев назад

Could I fly one size smaller with the pro vs reach/orbit standard? Thinking 12/11m sizes.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I don't think so vs the standard, but possible vs the reach... so an 11m orbit pro will have similar power to a 12m reach... but the 12m reach will likely fly in less wind so there is a potential trade off in low end

@lucajacquemet7415 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal thanks and again great video 🤙

@neuronflow 3 месяца назад

great reviews! Did you ever have the chance to try a Slingshot RPX?

@jasonofmontreal 3 месяца назад

No, we don't have Slingshot in NZ, but I'm hoping to get hold of Jeremy's kite late in the year if possible.

@ncboarderboy 3 месяца назад

Can you review the slingshot machine? Curious how it compares to the orbit and nitro in particular

@jasonofmontreal 3 месяца назад

Unlikely, but I will try to get hold of the code which is the team riders big air kite of choice

@RozaBoza 8 месяцев назад

when you mention line lengths. have you ever used 23m line? 3 years ago, out of curiosity, I ordered 23m of linen. when I was at 22 it was very direct but I lost the windrange. at 24m, the slack was too much. 23 is the middle. I suggest you try it. 150e for liros sk99 line

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I have only tried 23 when I tested the ozone edge… I wasn’t used to it enough to appreciate it at the time, but I could see it be a useful middle ground…

@RozaBoza 8 месяцев назад

since you mentioned that you are traveling to cape town - airush land can you add lift v3 to the menu 🤞🤞🤞

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@RozaBoza I'll keep that in mind

@flamewave0 8 месяцев назад

How did you get your Trust bar line changed to more durable one? I had click bar 2023 line snapping and rearing kite ear off. I would love to change front lines for something more durable. Follow up question did your mate snapped kite bridal line?

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

One mate snapped a pigtail on then end of his bars lines, and another the two centre lines. At first I just swapped the broken centre line for a north line, but then ordered new lines from The Line Smith (link in description) to replace my current ones. He makes them to suit whatever type of bar and line length you have.

@flamewave0 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal Did you also replace steering lines or just front lines? Can you share what lines length you bought from there from The Line Smith for Trust bar?

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@flamewave0 I got 22m lines, I’m replacing centre lines in backup bar, and all lines on main bar

@larsw.larsen4173 8 месяцев назад

What about the new OR 5 strut Aluula Flite?

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I’ve contacted OR in SA to hopefully try one while I’m there but they’re not sure if they’ll have them in stock yet, fingers crossed

@ride_the_wind 8 месяцев назад

So jealous of these kickers to the right.. over here we only get them to the left and i love jumping to the right 😅

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

it's quite rare we get the wind in this direction to get them... most of our spots are left so this was a nice treat

@ArneSlot79 8 месяцев назад

I exchanged my set of Rebels 21 for a set of Rebel SLS 24. They are clearly much lighter and faster, which is a win, but what I find disappointing is the bar pressure, which is so light and I find it difficult to get used to. This will take time or do you have any tips to get used to this?😊

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

It will just take time... and try to hold the bar with a softer grip, that will help.

@ArneSlot79 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal thanks for the reply. it will be even more kiting then! your content is fire. maybe the next set is the orbit pack, very curious about it. greetings from the Netherlands

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@ArneSlot79 unfortunately I probably went all in on duotone dlabs a bit fast, hoping to get 2 seasons out of them.

@goncalocalheiroscruz3168 8 месяцев назад

Great review once again, Jason! Have you ever tried the Evo SLS? Would you say it's a good option for someone that doesn't want to spend as much as with an Evo DLab? How would you compare it to the Orbit? Tried them once (in separate ocasions) and immediately thought they were very intuitive, had a good direct feel and were confidence inspiring to throw all the tricks. Looking to go for one of them and curious to know your take. There are virtually no reviews of the SLS version of the Evo, so I'm curious to know your take. Cheers!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I have not tried it I’m afraid, but I saw Kitemana compared each of the 23 evo versions

@goncalocalheiroscruz3168 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal they have, but not thoroughly like you! Thanks anyways!

@carlmajor4917 2 месяца назад

Which big air kite offers the least bar pressure to deal with a kiters elbow tendinitis ?

@jasonofmontreal 2 месяца назад

This is a tough question as I am not riding all of the kites on the same day... but I would say the Harlem Force and Evo Dlab are the two that sprint to mind.

@RebelwithaShotgun 8 месяцев назад

Hi Jason, got any tips for bars? I have a Trust Y bar and am now thinking of buying Orbits. The Navigator bar has a low V for the Orbit, but I read a lot of bad reviews on the Navigator, especially when looping a lot (safety line twist, no auto untwist and bad swivel for centre lines untwist and dangling depower). I really like the Sensor 3, but also a Y bar unfortunately…

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

The navigator is my favourite bar, I don't mind no auto untwist. You can remove the high V splitter on your trust bar though if you want to keep using it.

@RebelwithaShotgun 8 месяцев назад

Ok, many thanks! Didnt expect a response so soon. And you haven’t had any problems I understand. I usually do a couple of years with my gear (3/4/5 years), which is why I am a bit paranoid with durability and buying the right stuff. I had no problems with my Trust bar btw but given your experience I am keen to switch either way.

@RebelwithaShotgun 8 месяцев назад

Very good content btw. If you’re happy with something, that actually convinces me (contrary to most other reviewers out there).

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@RebelwithaShotgun I think the first navigator version, or perhaps the first two had the issue of the safety twisting up inside the chicken loop if you only looped the kite one way, but I'm not sure that is still an issue on the 22/23 bar. I've had a few of them and it wasn't an issue... but I also do either loop the kite evenly both ways, or simple un-twist manually it after loops

@riccardofreda612 Месяц назад

Hi, congratulations for the reviews, they are really fantastic and you are really very good. I drive a normal EVO I do some loops, dark slide board off etc.. I would like to progress in the loops but I don't have a high budget. I like the normal EVO but also trying the Orbit I noticed that my normal EVO flies much deeper in the window; with the Orbit instead I immediately gained more confidence and confidence. while trying the evo sls I noticed that it behaved more similar to the orbit and I believe that the comparison should in fact be made between the evo sls and the standard orbit. let's get to the point, do you recommend switching to orbit given my good impressions or getting a used evo sls? I hope you will answer me, thank you very much

@jasonofmontreal Месяц назад

I think the orbit will be easier to progress with loops, but I’ve not tried the standard Evo or Evo sls sorry. The evos are better all around kites if you are also doing some foiling or riding waves etc, but I’d wager you’ll progress faster in loops and big air with an orbit 8 or 9m

@riccardofreda612 Месяц назад

@@jasonofmontreal thank you very much

@jbrouard 8 месяцев назад

Love your videos Jason! I know your big on WOOsting, but it would be great if you could do a video comparison of WOO vs. Surfr. I'm jumping around 6m-7m on the surfr app pretty consistently, but wondering if it would read the same on the WOO, and would love your overall opinion about the difference in their features/capabilities.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

They will be very similar if you jump in a more controlled crouched position, with woo however you can cheat yourself higher scores by flicking your legs up ‘woosting’. This movement not only gets your board higher, on some jumps it tricks the woo into over reading at times, so a 9/10m jump on surfr may be 12-13m on woo for example.

@jbrouard 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal thanks for the reply! Also, I didn’t realize that was the definition of woosting, but that all makes sense now that you explain it.

@zscap 8 месяцев назад

I can also chime in. I recently tried both woo 3 and surfr and found the results quite close. With the "woost" it adds 2m to height but this also works with surfr in board mount. But with surfr in wetsuit or watch the woost doesn't change. Overall the surfr in watch mode is by far the most convenient. The woo app is still a bit more popular however

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@zscap the woo app is really well done for the huge community, and finding locations to kite if you’re new to an area

@issambres5384 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for this review ! Did you try your core bar on Duotone kites ?

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

My core bar needs some parts replaced as well to be able to use it unfortunately so waiting on those from overseas as we don’t have core in nz

@bondvillansarebest 8 месяцев назад

I have. The split isn't in quite the same place (about 1m lower) but the lines feel a bit different. The core lines have a sort of elastic feel that takes a bit of getting used to. They work fine but I preferred the stiffer duotone lines for feel

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@bondvillansarebest that makes sense

@issambres5384 8 месяцев назад

@@bondvillansarebest thanks for your experience. I will give it a try 😉

@shuweizhang6986 8 месяцев назад

Would you say if you were someone not as advanced as you and consistently riding in the 15-25knt range that the duotone products wouldnt be as concerning??

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

that's so hard to say, I think if you are wave riding or foiling then nothing to worry about... but if you are jumping over 5-10m or doing kite loops, the risk of lines snapping is a major concern so that is at least worth considering addressing

@kevindebaat2577 8 месяцев назад

I have also a lot of problems with the rebel sls and clickbar lines…

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Keep hearing this more and more unfortunately

@kevindebaat2577 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal broken jaime sls board also under the pads. I moved to North 👌🏼

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@kevindebaat2577 i can’t speak to durability but I do hear that’s a sick board to ride

@jed71278 8 месяцев назад

How come no slingshot kites in any of your testing videos?

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I'm afraid we don't have Slingshot in NZ

@colebutenhoff2648 8 месяцев назад

Test the Reedin Hypermodel!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I’ll keep my eye out for it

@HenkVanGinkel-bk6wn 7 месяцев назад

Can you test the eleveight xs v4

@jasonofmontreal 7 месяцев назад

Probably not, like most brands, we don’t have them in the city I live soo it’s very hard to get hold of them

@noahwilliams6826 8 месяцев назад

Are you in line for a reedin supermodel pro Aluula yet?

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

I can't afford to buy any more Aluula kites, my dlab investment is hopefully going to last me another year or more with some stronger lines... but if I can borrow one for a few hours I'd try to film a review with it

@szymon4970 8 месяцев назад

Reedin Hipermodel 🙏

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

will keep an eye out for it

@seavee29 8 месяцев назад

You have an email so that we can coordinate some gear to test in SA? thx! Great job on your informative reviews!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

it's in my profile bio, or you can DM me on insta too

@fabioklietsch5635 8 месяцев назад

what about the xr pro ?

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Hopefully soon

@ScaryStoriessYT 7 месяцев назад

can you review a reedin supermodel / htf in you next big air kite review pls 🙏

@jasonofmontreal 7 месяцев назад

I can only review kites I get access to I’m afraid. It’s also not our windy season in NZ so we don’t get a lot of 30 knot days

@ScaryStoriessYT 6 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal yea makes sense. How about an ozone edge? Even if you can’t make a video, what are your personal thoughts on edge vs orbit or orbit pro? I’m intermediate I would say, jumping around 12 with no proper loops yet. Probably will though so should be loopable as well. Gonna buy a 7m. Thank you 🙏

@jasonofmontreal 6 месяцев назад

@@ScaryStoriessYT I covered the edge v11, and supermodel v3 in my first video. I’m sure both kites are a bit better now but I’d imagine they’re similar in comparison

@ScaryStoriessYT 6 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal alright I’ll check that out thank you

@alexliitmaa2669 3 месяца назад

Hey, do u ride 22m or 24m lines on the Orbit?

@jasonofmontreal 3 месяца назад

I always test on 22, often ride 24 in lighter winds

@alexliitmaa2669 3 месяца назад

@@jasonofmontreal Thank you for the answer 🙌

@ride_the_wind 8 месяцев назад

Isn't it insane looking at the prices they make you pay for Duotone gear and this is the quality you get?

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

it's very disappointing, hopefully it will be the last issues I have

@gboates 8 месяцев назад

How else can Duotone afford the vast array of sponsored riders?

@ride_the_wind 8 месяцев назад

that and lots and lots of expensive marketing@@gboates

@mellowgrab 8 месяцев назад

What about Harlem Force? 👀

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Will keep an eye out

@sanderpsychologie 8 месяцев назад

Crazy scary that material failure...

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

yeah it has really gotten in my head after these insane new heights we're jumping

@sanderpsychologie 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal I understand Jason. Material failure out of your power can be slightly traumatizing even when the damaging effect was mild. This sport is not without (almost unpreventable) risk. I had two brand new harnesses (5 months old) snap twice and qr open unintentionally 2 times as well in thr last year. Last week I had to pull my qr after a frontstall in 40+kn (no time to heli) and my safety leash snapped instantly (new used 2 times). Makes me very careful always being in deep water when jumping high and always being with someone. And then still, when something like that line snap would happen it would seriously impact me!

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@sanderpsychologie I've had a pretty good run with gear for the last few years... ironically the last line I snapped until recently was on my 2018 duotone click bar...

@nixon_capedr 8 месяцев назад

I've always found your tests exciting and very objective. However, lately, that objectivity seems to be slipping a bit, or at least the headlines aren't quite matching the video content. The main focus seems to be the Duotone line issues and the Orbit hype. The Cabrinha Nitro and Evo DLab don't really get much screen time.

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the comment, but I spent my last two videos on those kites, the idea is to try my best not to repeat myself because I don’t think of any video as a stand alone, each one carry’s on from the last

@nixon_capedr 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontrealok thanks, we've had a lot of issues with burst leading edges (LE) from orbit kites in our area, from this year and last year. Would be good to hear your feedback on that maybe in your next carry on video...

@jasonofmontreal 8 месяцев назад

@@nixon_capedr I know that North had issues with their 2023 orbits, but they did a recall earlier this year so I got my Orbit kites replaced for free, some of them had over 70 hours of riding time on them. The next video I did after that happened was the one on Duotone kites where I said I just loved the Rebel SLS even though I had actually seen a pro rider have theirs SLS explode on them while it was in the air on my last Cape Town trip, but because it wasn't my kite and I don't know what condition it was in, it wasn't relevant to the review. I also said that the dlab was the highest-performance kite on the market. That is not exactly a negative review and that video currently has close to 30k views... So because the recall had already happened by North at that time, there wasn't much to cover anymore that was relevant to the duotone review. I'm in the bar/restaurant industry, these videos are just my thoughts on the kites I am riding.

@rodsherwood1707 8 месяцев назад

@nixon2808 I'm new to Jason's content and I don't agree with you - it's refreshing to see how varied the kite brand range is that he rides and how clear he is about the comparisons...I have found Duotone dismissive with regards bar issues that compromise safety, the contrasting responsiveness of both North and F-One is impressive.

@nixon_capedr 8 месяцев назад

@@jasonofmontreal all good, respect to your reviews. criticism of competing brands, in this case, Duotone, might be perceived as biased if you also have a sponsorship relationship with North. The line topic and other safety issues (cabrinha bar iron heart, north le problems, duotone lines etc. needs to be showed and communicated, nothing wrong on that.