Big Boss gave Venom everything including his rage and sorrow. But Venom can never fully live up to Big Boss as he is nothing more then a imitation. It's a sad fate Venom took on but he took it and lived to it.
@@Leoofmoonnot according to big boss himself. According to him, venom was his equal. And a rightful half of the big boss legend. They’re both big boss. No need to sell venom short.
They really wanted him to shake their hand after making him kill essentially his mother on the battlefield and putting her down in history as a traitor.
Throughout this series you watch a man rise and beat the adversity that he faced in his life not to mention the hardship just to become the villain by the end. Truly tragic
Is Big Boss really a villain? I see it as US Government made Solid Snake destroy Outer Heaven, but neither Naked Snake nor Venom Snake committed anything awful
@@user-mw6gv7fk7z In peace walker he recruits a child soldier and gets a nuke, you can argue that he isn’t completely evil but he works very closely with ocelot who I would argue is
I've always loved that despite the numerous references to Bowie throughout the franchise (diamons dogs probably being the most obvious), the version of man who sold the world that represents venom snake isn't Bowie's original but instead a cover, perfect little hint right at the beggining of the game
The first time I heard the song in game, I thought it was weird, obviously being younger the old style vocals would immediately make me think I wasn't going to like it, but I figured that in all of Kojima glory, there was some hidden meaning behind every little detail, and yea, I wasn't wrong, after all "The Man who Sold the World" is plastered all over, although I also have to admit, it wasn't even anywhere near a normal song, you can feel a story behind the song, even when not being to sure about the story, the songs constant melody makes you feel like you have eyes on you from everywhere, making me think deeply while my consciousness faded out to the hypnotizing melody, like they just don't let you live something down, like living a lie and knowing it, like you have to abide by someone's rules because if you don't, hell can break loose. I really dunno how it used to invoke those feelings on me, but they did, and this was when I really did not understand much back then, I was constantly confused by events and people occurring, you could say it actually felt like I was in Venom's boots in that sense, but yea ultimately here we are, everyone of us mgs fans can rejoice and suffer altogether, especially after Konami ruined it for us all and Kojima... wish he could've taken the series with him. I'm pretty sure many of you feel just as connected with mgs as I do, we've been here for years after all.
Another twist with the song is that this isn't even the original. It's originally a David Bowie song. In a way "using" someone else's legacy and "taking" it on yourself
@@babababab71 Yea I heard David Bowies, it's really good still, but this one definitely fit the style they were going for, the way the melody turned hypnotic is probably why its still different to Bowie's, and yea, you're right about that, that fits in pretty well here... wanna have even more food for thought? During the development of GZ and TPP, Kojima was constantly alluding to his legacy disappearing, like with the easter eggs and the "unfinished" TPP even though he said it was finished, I had to really think about that to realize the man probably knew it was coming since before Konami started going through the changes officially...
This song is about a man realising he did changed over time but not as much as hebelieved, basically through a metaphorical dialogue between the narator and it's friend (his past self). He thought this version of him was dead but yet he met it at an intersection, a transition point, a curve in his existance represented by a staircase. Yet at this mile stone of his existence this version of him still manifest itself and has weight in his life choices. As if a part of you just can't die while you still live, because this part is what define the most what is "you", this ultimate part of the human soul and ego that cannot be reduced Descartes saw as the corner stone that define your perseption of the reality.
On my 5th run through. Only problem is the Konami server required for online content AND Sony sign in requirements. (Remember when you could put a game in and play it?)
The tragedy for me is the fact that they are remaking MGS3 (though a great game) when I wanted to continue the Venom, V, Ahab, Phatom, storyline as it's nearly as twisted as Big Boss using V. I was hoping for the next iteration of this and maybe a remake of the NES titles so that we can get a V conclusion modernized.
they’re probably starting with 3 so they can do the entire story in chronological order for a new age of consoles. this is if MGS3 Delta releases to good reviews and people wanting more. it’s the only reason why they’d start with that one of all mgs games
@@shawngaetz8161 yes, my friend. Now they can only do remakes and remasters, and even if they'll make a NEW metal gear game... It's not going to be great, at my opinion. Without Kojima they can only write f-up plot. So, as long as Kojima is not in his previous position, mg, mgs and mgr are doomed.
MGS got me addicted to trauma it gave me. The phantom pain of Mission 51 is still hurting. But thanks to it, I'm a better person. It's time to go to a anime/game con with a Big Boss cosplay and walk around in a cardboard box playing Love's Detterence. That's how you recruit friends in the Motherbase.
I like how there were subtle hints he wasn't the real big boss his eye being intact although blinded needing a russian translater even though big boss is fluent in the language etc
I first heard this song by another artist, (maybe David Bowie???). I wasn’t to surprised to hear such a song in this game, but when it played and I thought of al the things you did in the game (except the disappointing filler bits) I realised that you’re going to have a horrible future while the real big boss lives on. The twist didn’t really get me, I’m not big brain, I just thought they made it subtle with how they treat you from the beginning. But that didn’t mean I thought about what that meant till the end. Truely the biggest boss moment when he sold the world.
In the Voice logs of MGSV Kaz was offered by diamond dogs to have a bionic arm and leg but Kaz refused the bionic arm and leg stating that he won't get a bionic arm and leg until revenge on cipher is taken According to him he wanted to remind himself of the pain his men went through when the original motherbase was attacked by cipher
Nah, Nirvana's one sounds like an under produced Bowie version, the one portrayed by Midge Ure gives it a complete different atmosphere while maintaining the essence of the song