Jale DID NOT deserve your disgusting attitude Pauline. You saw someone as a threat, and you bullied her, got others to bully her, and delude yourself on that decision. SO glad you are out.
I like they way Toya rationalizes the decisions that she makes, but I am not sure if it is just for the cameras or if she really is like that. With that said, I don't like her because she is abrasive and rude with others that she doesn't like. With Christopher, I felt she was being a bit catty and chose him over Matthews objections.
It is all for the cameras, it is a huge game play to chose Matthew, someone unexpected, it will make her look better... Who decided to put Christopher on? What did she do with Matthews input?
JasonJMist yes i already know that. but thats not what backdooring someone means. toya has the power and in bb us the hoh has the power they couldnt possibly be "backdoored" if they have the power. its different from this bb.
Toya was totally looking for an argument with Christopher, good for you Christopher, dont stoop to her level. Toya is gonna be a tyrant power house leader this week, please put her up for eviction bb, and booo the shit out of her when shes voted out on Friday please British public!!
I think w/ that last scene, if Kimberly keeps hangin around w/ Steven, Helen, and Ash as a couples group, the public may start lookin down on that. I don't think there is a problem w/ Steven or Ash directly. But, just Helen & the negative influence that would she would have on her. Like I bet it was Helen's idea to talk Kimberly into stealin that wine with her. But then lying to Jale about not having anymore & Kimberly not speakin up will make the public look down on her.
Toya, always gotta have the last word when it's not needed. Hope she's up, because I like Matt; Helen is back up to her old twatty self, was hoping she'd actually gotten a bit better.
Kimberly better watch her back. The way she is hanging with Helen and Stephen in spite of the reception they received shows that she isn't as calculating as everyone insists she is. I'm not as big of a Jale fan as I used to be but I don't like the way Kim seemed okay with that whole wine situation. She is just so happy that Helen is talking to her again that she is going to screw up her own game.
Couldn't agree more. I think Kimberly was just doing that to kinda fit in. Seeing as she was attacked by everyone w/ that whole shower scene and she doesn't want to be on anybody's bad side.
***** You're exactly right! And I'd like to add in that I think, more than anything, that Kimberly is very afraid of Helen. I've read a bunch of Kimberly's blogs and she mentions being bullied quite often in high school. I think she'd rather fit in with the bullies than get bullied. I still think she's a sweetheart. It can't hurt any worse than Ashleigh chumming up with Toya...YUCK!!
I did not read her blog so I had no idea she as bullied growing up but I could tell that she was fearful if Helen. When Helen was digging into her the other night and she thanked Helen then hugged her for it I suspected. It was not until later on that night when Marlon was joking with Helen about being drunk and Kim chimed in by talking Marlon to leave her alone that it became quite clear to me that she was afraid to get on Helen's bad side. Kim is one of my faves this season and I hope she doesn't get caught up because Helen is the black widow, everyone who gets close to her gets sent packing which is why I think Toya will go next.
I hope it is her way of finding a position more in the middle so she is not becoming a next target. But she better put a big effort to keep the friendship with the "real" people in the house. You could see on her face she wasn't to please about the Pauline's cheers and the wine thingy.
Poor Kim doesn't realize that she will always be a target simply because she is reserved and doesn't wear her heart on her sleeve. I wish she would just be herself because unlike the cool kids(minus Winston) she actually has a chance to win. Toya is putting her up come hell or high water and then she'll see who her real friends are. She'd better hope that Toya goes up because I just don't see he putting up any of her friends and that may be the only way Kim stays becaus Jale(ugh) and Christopher look like front runners.
Yes, Toya is so riddled with jealously of Kim that its eating her up. I don't think it has anything to do with Steven. She just thinks she's the hot bitch in the house and Kim is competition.
What happened to Helen changing her mind about Jale?.... I'm thinking the word 'bitch' was invented for Helen! She has to lose her pass to the final, even after bb warning her about her behaviour she still acts like the group bully.
Nah, Ashleigh is being perceived as a fair weathered friend. Look how quickly she turned her back on Kimberly because Toya said Kim was a horrible human being. She is too easily influenced
What happened to this cool, laid back, sense of humor Toya? She has become a bitter gossiping house marm in her headscarf and housecoat - she's morphing into Pauline..
Thank u so much for your post! I so am whatevs on toya now I really liked her she presented her self to be another gina.... glad pauline is gone even with emma she was evasive also with ryland as well
WTF I'm sickened by this school yard bullying bullshit by these "adults". Picking on Kim because shes "different" (American) & Picking on Jale because shes overweight. Pathetic & childish!
If I lived in Uk I'd definitely complain to channel 5 for airing actual bullying live and encouraging young ppl to think it's ok! Honestly Helen should be out by now!! I remember past years when hms got kicked out for way minor actions! This is not OK. Bob should step in!! Helen is actually bullying Jale!! That girl doesn nothing but walk around, sit and smoke yet still gets shite back at her! How's that normal?
I really liked Kim by day 5, she was doing her own thing, wasn't bitchy and gave that amazing rebuttal to Ash during that task. But now she's practically chained to Stephen, sucks up to Helen and flips back and forth. I thought she was going to be this iron-willed, strong, intelligent person who did not give into all that petty bullshit that the other housemates have been engaging in. I don't know if this a game-plan of hers?... Or she's just not as interesting and different as I thought. I can safely say that I do not like any of the housemates in this series, as of this moment.
- I love Mark...he was speaking truth about Pauline - "Now peel another potato and shut up" haha - Love that they were all getting along and having fun this task - Pauline was a bitch through and through, and her final remarks sealed it -- and despite that all, you can see Jale still clapping for her at the base of the stairs - im sorry, but while Steven was talking, all i could see was the shit coming out of his mouth - very suspicious...why did Toya say "i dont want it" right before she was announced? - in all honestly, it was a very diff decision to make in like 30 seconds but my heart broke looking at Christopher - why is Toya allowed to make the decision whether or not the BB experience is good for someone or not? Shes one of the main people behind his bad experience - "Do you honestly think im the type of person who looks for arguments?" BWAHAHAHA - sad that Ashleigh is trying everything to fit in to the T/H group - Kimberly and Steven are just...cringe - it sucks cuz i really wanna like Toya but she disappoints at every turn - why Kim chooses to associate herself with trash like Helen is beyond me
If you are particularly interesting in watching people being manipulative at the expense of other trustworthy people, then, yes, it will be one less reason for you to watch BB. Personally I think it is horrible and not the reason I like to watch BB.
The point is that she causes drama, which is interesting to watch, i'm sure people would rather watch arguments rather then people talking about hairspray 24/7.
+imdaaniel ????How? Nope still don't agree with who won! I could watch this season a hundred times and still not agree! Then again I hate seeing bullies get rewarded for their actions, while the victims or even just some of the better people that have not totally destroyed other people's self worth, are totally disregarded! Maybe I'm an idealist that would like to believe that the good will triumph and that humans should at least treat others with some semblance of common decency! That reasonable arguments should be listened to over emotional arguments, and compassion and understanding reigns over arrogance and ignorance! That intellect is actually a valued quality! I guess reality got me huh! Shame really! This world might have been a better place if these qualities were actually valued in society! Guess you're right...if we are basing this on reality then she probably was the right person to win! Reality sucks!
Thanks for the upload! I cannot stand Helen or Toya. If Toya gets put up this week, I feel it will be between Toya & Stephen. I would rather Toya go first & then slowly start picking off Helen's group. Let's see how Helen likes to be alone.
why would you brand yourself a victim? i don't know about her but i'm a grown ass woman and i will never ever see myself as a victim or play to it. I would stand up for what i believe in too and not give two shits if others like me or not. Its life, not everybody is going to like you or respect you. you have to learn how to deal with it
JasonJMist That's what I meant by she "fell into it" I'm sure that's not a role she wanted. It doesn't seem in her character to play the victim card, I just meant, if it's working for her, she might as well go with it.
ThisAintCamiIsIT she has 100,000 reasons to play the victim even though I don't like the tactic in the game, it the best chance to make it far is by building sympathy with the public
Love how mark is the first person to finallllllyyy talk good strategy in the game - and not concered about being 'real' or 'fake' (toyaa) - it's a GAME for money - you should play it a bit smart (and shady) to win!
Oh my! Kimberley! that was her chance to swoop in, tell Helen to share the wine and take herself to the final public wouldn't forget that. Buuuut instead she's going to go bitch about once she realises that her relationship with Helen isn't doing her any good *sigh* this house.
I think Kim behaved tactically. She currently cannot risk to have the biggest bully in the house against herself. She saw Jale suddenly connecting with Helen, she saw Ashley completely changing the sides ...
I'm currently Team Mark and Team Matthew. I adore Mark despite him being a member of the cool kids crew. He's funny and entertaining. His accent alone has me in stitches during every show. He was spot on with what he said when Toya asked "do you think it was." It was because of the argument. Whether the argument should have happened or not is a whole other debate, but Pauline's fate WAS sealed because of her actions with the unnecessary, one-sided, silly arguments, as Mark said. Matthew is just a cool dude. Very relaxed, realizes its a game, super left-brained and logical. I dig that.
Yeah they're not gonna stand a chance against Jale if they are still treating her like this. It pisses me off helen calling her name again and nobody is saying about it.
I am getting so tired of people like Toya. She is intelligent but artificial. Kimberley's intelligents starts where Toya's ends. The way Toya is manipulating people is so standard and so obvious. Kimberely is a huge thread for Toya and that is why Toya is attacking Kimberely, poor Asleigh she is going to feel so stupid afterwards she continues to fall for it... Shame on you Toya! She is an horrible woman if this is who she is. And her excuse for nominating Christopher makes me puke! Who is she to decide for Christopher whether he should stay in the house? Horrible excuse, Christopher too is very intelligent and a big thread for Toya but looking at Christophers position in the house an easier target at this stage.
Oh god, i actually liked marc before today... How the hell would he know its because of the argument with jale? Ffs, i would go to the extent to say it had little to do with the argument with jale... It was how she judged a book by its cover (jale and chris with their vt's) when she said she was so against judging a book by its cover to start with. Then she would try to extend her argument to the whole house and looked like she was creating an 'i hate jale house'. And her ridiculously stupid and unhelpful advice and her rationing didnt help her god damn case.
So let me get this straight, just because Jale and Christopher don't shout at people, and don't try to force their views and opinions on people, and don't have the same ideas and values and mindset is you Helen, they don't have "personality"! That is such bullshit! Personality isn't just extroverted, opinionated, rude people Helen! There are so many different types of people in this world, and they all have their own types of "personality"! I find Christopher hilarious sometimes, he's kind and forgiving, fair and caring, the type of person I would want to be friends with because he enjoys life and cares about people and doesn't fault people for not being perfect! He's understanding and intelligent! Can see both sides to things! Makes up his own mind and doesn't push people into stereotypes and tries to get to know people before he judges them! And he is strong (there are different types of strength and he does overtly display a type of strength)! I would say he knows exactly who he is (Toya doesn't seem to know him at all if she believes that he doesn't)! And Jale, she's grounded and fair! She stands up for what she thinks here (seen that multiple times) and isn't easily led like many in that house! She is very observant, makes up her own mind about thinks, etc.! I would call both of those very strong personality types actually! Just because they aren't your personality type Helen, doesn't mean that they don't have personality! Get over yourself Helen and grow up! You are not the end all and be all of human kind!
To the very UNcool "Cool Kids": We do see everything you do, sooner or later. It's just that no one likes what you do. Ignorance is much different from dislike or disapproval. And even if we don't like Jale's behavior, that does not make your behavior toward her justified. We don't need to like Christopher to dislike the way you treat him. You all bully, coerce, insult and hurt others who are alone, eyes full of tears, pretending you are doing a public service by making them feel terrible because now they know what screwed-up people they are?. No one appointed you judge, jury and punisher. You do them no favor when you point out their personality inadequacies. No one gave you that right, they never asked you. It's just an excuse for your cruelty. You feel better at their expense. It's so sad. And you never ask what they think of you! Wait till you are the minority then ask what you have done wrong, how to improve..... And, btw, just because they say they forgive you, kiss and make-up, it does NOT make it ok--you have all the power, and they have no choice but to smile and make-up, saying it's all alright. But it's not. Hugs don't erase bullying, smiles don't make us forget tears.
I loved Helen in the 2015 BB when she came in as a legend because everything she said was true but I really don't agree with much of what shes saying in 2014, she was really cruel.
I think Kim behaved tactically. She currently cannot risk to have the biggest bully in the house against herself. She saw Jale suddenly connecting with Helen, she saw Ashley completely changing the sides ...
Ashleigh has an opinion after all. Cant wait to see more of her. She is my new fave to win after Jale. Im Impressed with marks ability to read Pauline's character .