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In this video I am going to talk about how the old way of connecting outlets may be inferior and why you might want to think about using pigtails. If you don't know how to make a pigtail, I am going going to show you how I make mine and where I use them. Of course we always want to be mindful of our box calculations and not overfilling them so depending on the box you are using might affect which method you use.
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@rrussell39
@rrussell39 Год назад
I pigtail every device box. I am a Master Electrician that's been in the trade for over 35 years. I have seen so many problems caused by using a receptacles terminals to complete a circuit instead of pigtailing the wires. Even if everything is done perfect you can still have power quality issues and failures when several devices are being relied on to have the circuit completed. The worse method i usually see, although Code compliant, is having a dozen receptacles daisy chained as well as back-stabbed. Back-stabbing is fine if you are pigtailing and only connecting one hot and neutral to the outlet, otherwise it has a higher potential for failure. Pigtailing is the only way to go. My company policy, even in the hyper-competitive new residential market is to pigtail and screw-wrap ALL devices. It's slower but far superior and not as likely to fail.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Thanks a lot for taking the time to offer your professional recommendation and experience!
@TheTubejunky
@TheTubejunky Год назад
Agreed. I have just recently found a backstabbed outlet feeding another outlet and it was leeching voltage (only had 71vac) when I tested the two outlets. I promptly replaced both and correctly wired them. All tested and by the book (also common sense to some). The risk of fire was avoided that day. "Practice will make perfect unless your practicing skydiving without a parachute." - me
@RetiredBassist
@RetiredBassist Год назад
Correctly maintaining maximum amperage to each receptacle is mostly to use pigtail wiring, not pulling other receptacle amperage through the first receptacle.
@markvanbritsom4209
@markvanbritsom4209 Год назад
@@genespliced don’t you just love it when people on here say we shouldn’t twist wires together just put them under the wire nuts and let the nut hold them , somebody told me that once and I laughed but I tried it just to see how it would work and my experience is the wires. If you have like more than four, they don’t all stay in the wire nut so with receptacles we’ve got at least three wires ,in and out ,and then possibly even more, so I was taught from the first day I started doing electrical work to twist the wires and make sure I have a solid connection before applying a wire nut. I know manufacturers say it’s ok , well they said that about back stabbing in the 1980’s, how many thousands of houses burned down from doing this I wonder, you cannot trust manufacturers, they want to sell their product, as far as Wago’s or push in connectors go when your installing recessed in a 2 story cathedral ceiling I wouldn’t trust anything except a well twisted and wirenutted connection each one having been doubled checked by pulling on it to make sure it’s nice and secure, but that’s just me , you know what they say , opinions are like assholes , everybody has one
@rrussell39
@rrussell39 Год назад
@@genespliced That is correct, but only required if you are installing receptacles on a multi-wire branch circuit. If you run 12-2, for example, to feed several receptacles, the neutral can be made up on the individual receptacles terminals just like the hot instead of pigtailed. Pigtailing the neutral is only required at each receptacle if the receptacles are fed by a MWBC. It isn't something I do, but not against NEC. Open a neutral on a single circuit, you simply lose the return path and no power can flow, but if you open the neutral on an energized MWBC, you can have a really bad day.
@bg3160
@bg3160 Год назад
some of the circuits in my house were incredibly unstable. Finally, an electrician diagnosed it as 40 year old sockets, wired socket to socket without pigtails. The sockets were simply coming loose. He replaced a couple and the stability went way up! Now, every time we move furniture, I replace the sockets behind the furniture with a pigtail connection and the stability continues to get better. We also found circuits wired backwards (hot to neutral). Without using pigtails, once you get it backwards, everything downline is backwards. I think I've got the worst of it, but have a long way to go! Do it right and you'll save yourself lots of problems. I love the Wago style connectors too. Makes it faster for me!
@docferringer
@docferringer Год назад
Reversed wiring is why I always tell people to check all possible combinations of wires with your multimeter to verify there is absolutely no voltage: Hot-Neutral Hot-Ground Neutral-Ground
@bg3160
@bg3160 Год назад
@@docferringer I just used the standard tester with 3 lights. Was wiring new sockets, I checked my work and it was backwards. I checked the physical wiring, it was correct. So I started working backwards with the cheap $10 tester and eventually found the source. Once the source was identified, I called a licensed electrician. We checked every outlet in the house, found all the incorrectly wired sockets and had them fixed. I learned, never trust your predecessor, double checked everything.
@svyt
@svyt Год назад
I'm going to make a bet that not only were they wired socket-to-socket, but I bet they were done as "back-stab" terminations weren't they?
@bg3160
@bg3160 Год назад
@@svyt That's the strange part, for the most part, no, they used the screw terminals for all but the outlet controlled by a light switch. The switch used back stabs, but the rest were on the screws. At least they tried on that one. Oh, and to make the problem even better, the outlets wired backwards included the exterior outlets. Nothing like mixing rain and an open circuit. Just glad no one got hurt over the life of this house.
@bg3160
@bg3160 Год назад
@@user-lp3cf5yn5bThe house was over 40 years old when I bought it. A number of neighbors complained about similar problems. The thought is that the electrician employed by the developer was more than a bit sloppy. Perhaps an apprentice did some of the work and it was never double checked. Perhaps the electrician was drunk, I just don't know. One neighbor replaced every outlet in the house to fix their problems. Joys of tract homes built in the late 1970's. The rest of the house is pretty solid, but the electrical needs help. So, I'm working my way through the place one outlet at a time.
@tambourvideo
@tambourvideo Год назад
A convenient aspect of Linemans Pliers is that the mouth often the cutter is 1/2" wide; so if you put your pre-twisted wires in up to the insulation, you'll have a perfect 1/2" of twisted wire to go into your wire nut. This insures no bare wire outside of the nut.
@michaelschneider-
@michaelschneider- Год назад
+1 .. Agreed ... "The Devil is in the Details"
@Elfnetdesigns
@Elfnetdesigns Год назад
To me this is common knowledge but many DIYers do not know this also there are different sizes of these pliers typically in off brans at cheap stores that are not the ISO size you want to have.
@ianbelletti6241
@ianbelletti6241 Год назад
@@Elfnetdesigns the other issue is that you have to get used to the feel of stripping with them. It's easy for a DIYer to squeeze a little too hard and nick the wire leaving a weak spot or losing strands. That's why they tell you to use strippers for the purpose. Yes, they do make linesman's that have strippers on the back, however, I've found the crimp tool on the back a more useful option.
@brianjohns3402
@brianjohns3402 Год назад
Yeah, I use the wire nuts and the Wago. When I use the wire nuts I prefer to pre-twist. I always looked at the wire nut as more of a way to insulate than to make the connection. Although I have tested it out and it works without pre-twisting. The Wago lever nuts are great when you have a lot of wires to connect in a single box. I remodeled our master bathroom and used Wagos because everything went through the GFCI outlet. I did have to daisy chain everything from it to connect it properly so that everything in the bathroom would be protected by it. I ran a pigtail from it to the Wagos though and then connected everything else to it. I don't think I connected the incoming power to the middle. I think I just connected it to one end and then added everything else in line. I had to use the 5 conductor lever nuts for it. I personally don't think it matters which order it goes in but it does make sense to put the incoming power in the middle that way if there is a failure it's possible that the other end of the circuit still works. I think in the future I will do this. The other reason I like Wago lever nuts is when I hook up a light or something with stranded cables. It's so hard to make a good connection by twisting stranded wire with solid wire. I have seen too many failures this way. I'm glad you made this video though. I have so many plugs in my house that have gone out and caused other issues down the line. We have 2 bedrooms in our house that run off a single breaker. the plugs are all basically daisy-chained together. I wish I had the money and patients to rerun another line to put one of the rooms on a different breaker. Until that day comes though I think I'm going to start replacing the plugs that I know are bad and use pigtails like you suggested so the same issue doesn't happen again. It seems like daisy chaining just puts too much power through the first outlet in the chain. Especially when we have the air conditioners running in the summer. I really should get them on their own circuit though.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Hey Brian, really glad to hear you are diligent in trying to make sure you are doing things the right way. I agree that the wagos have their advantages and wire nuts have theirs. Thanks a lot for taking the time to share your thoughts, feedback, and personal experience!
@recbo
@recbo 5 месяцев назад
Absolutely pretwist for wire nut, except a stranded light wire to solid wire.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
How do you prefer to connect your different outlet devices? Also if you have any knowledge to add, please feel free to leave it in the comments so everyone in the community can benefit! Thank You! 👍
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 Год назад
It would be nice if you made a video lesson about how to troubleshoot a short circuit compared to a ground fault using a digital ohm meter DVM and can tell the difference between a ground fault and a short circuit.
@scruples671
@scruples671 Год назад
I always thought pigtail was code a long time a go for all 3 conductors?
@JV-pu8kx
@JV-pu8kx Год назад
Never had a problem with daisy-chaining.
@ronb6182
@ronb6182 Год назад
Our house in Pennsylvania was wired with junction boxes. Nothing was daisy chained. But we only had three outlet receptacles in each bedroom the window side had no outlet. I don't remember mom and dad's room it may have had four. The junction boxes were in the attic the BX greenfield went to all the receptacle boxes I think dad used number 10 gauge wire. We had thirty amp fuses to all the outlet receptacles and light circuits. Lighting was on its own circuit. Which is better than with the outlets. If we had a short we were never in the dark. I guess I caused most of the short circuits when I was a child I was playing with electricity since I was 4 years old. I learned the hard way of respecting electricity. I should have been an electrician instead I went for electronics. 73
@ronb6182
@ronb6182 Год назад
@@scruples671 my sister had pool cleaner pump and pool circulation pump both were wired 120 volts and shared a neutral but the neutral got hot to touch. I believe in using separate lines for both pumps. But when I installed the outside breaker box I rewired both pumps for 240 volts which was better and had power to spare for the art studio which was a better shed closed in with AC unit and receptacles and trac lighting 73
@IllyaLeonovMorganFreepony
@IllyaLeonovMorganFreepony Год назад
I always pre-twist the equipment ground wires simply because it pulls them all close together and being they are un-insulated it helps keep them from getting into hot areas in the box.
@flatfingertuning727
@flatfingertuning727 Год назад
I would think the Wago-style connectors would offer a big advantage when using smart switches or other assemblies that have built-in pigtails, since they would allow a smart switch to be removed from a passed-through hot and neutral without breaking the pass-through connection. By contrast, when using a wire nut, it would be necessary to break the connection and then re-connect the two wires.
@AngeloR674
@AngeloR674 Год назад
I changed most of wall switches to smart switches i have a few more to go!..but i find the wire nuts just give a better bond!
@flatfingertuning727
@flatfingertuning727 Год назад
@@RadioRich100 If a smart switch fails or otherwise needs to be replaced, and it uses a built-in pigtail connected in the same wire nut as a through connection, how would one avoid breaking the through connection while removing the switch?
@crimsonsamuraiftw
@crimsonsamuraiftw Год назад
What everyone else already said - plus you're going to need to shut off the circuit in order to work on the connection anyway. I'm not sure working on a live circuit is a good idea, regardless of which connector you use.
@TomCee53
@TomCee53 11 месяцев назад
Just turn everything off. 😅
@thomasaylmer5757
@thomasaylmer5757 4 месяца назад
You present your methods in a very clear and logical manner. Thank you.
@bassman87
@bassman87 Год назад
One of the advantages of pre twisting is that the wire nut is not the only thing holding the connection together. When it enviablly comes time to disassemble that joint removing the wirenut doesn't allow the joint to come apart and allow the conductors to hit anything else in the box. (something electricians who do live work care a lot about).
@brianleeper5737
@brianleeper5737 Год назад
If you twist those wire nuts like you mean it, it doesn't matter if you pre-twist, the action of installing the wire nut will twist the wires together. (Just make sure to stop twisting before the wires break out of the top of the wire nut!)
@anonnona8099
@anonnona8099 Год назад
It's a criminal offence for electricians to work live here unless there is no alternative.
@RageQuitSon
@RageQuitSon Год назад
What is the difference between daisy chaining ONLY from one receptacle to a second receptacle VS using a Wago? You are sending power through a connecting bar of metal in both instances creating extra resistance, no matter how minute in each situation. If the master receptacle dies, that piece of metal is still there to send to the slave receptacle.
@ianbelletti6241
@ianbelletti6241 Год назад
To be honest, I don't use wagos in outlet boxes. I use wire nuts. I have found wire nuts more reliable than daisy chaining the receptacles. The biggest problem is that when the receptacle fails it takes out all the receptacles down the line making it harder to troubleshoot.
@todd8155
@todd8155 Год назад
@RageQuitSon - Good point. IMO, Wagos add unnecessary complexity and cost. The Wago shown has 3 moving parts, and adds a metal bus bar just like the outlet does. More failure points...
@BoatyMcBoatface669
@BoatyMcBoatface669 Год назад
I'm having trouble with your explanation of why daisy chaining the outlets is bad. The method described and attributed to "most people" was to wire them in parallel, so the only failure mode that might disable other loads would be if that little metal tab that interconnects the two screws on the hot side was to somehow become disconnected. I have never heard of this happening and as a EE it is hard for me to imagine a scenario where this interconnecting piece of metal would become a fuse and "open", thus causing a problem with the other loads. There may be other reasons to avoid this technique, just not the one described in your video and above. I disagree with this point, but I value your vids. Thanks for sticking your neck out!
@pld8993
@pld8993 Год назад
To your point, the tab will not "open" and act like a fuse, unless it's severely overloaded. On a cheepo 15A recep, the connecting tab is UL rated for 20A and in order to get the UL rating it must maintain 150% of its rating. In other words, it only has a 20A rating because it can handle 30A.
@mikecarr4178
@mikecarr4178 Год назад
The reason is that daisy chaining the outlets relies on the connection of every wire of every device in the chain. DIYers especially tend to not tighten the terminal screws sufficiently. Pros who certainly can tighten the screws properly recommend pigtailing since they don't know that the person who replaces an outlet years later will do it properly. It's much more certain to maintain a reliable splice with wire nuts or Wago connectors. It's far more likely that the downstream outlets failing due to the tab being broken will be because "the next guy" comes along and stupidly does something unexpected.
@pld8993
@pld8993 Год назад
@@mikecarr4178 Both daisy chaining and pigtailing rely on the connection of every wire, whether connected to terminal screw or splice, for the circuit to maintain continuity so I'm not sure what your point is. A bad splice has the same effect as a poor terminal connection, and vice versa. I've seen both multiple times. So DIYers especially tend to not tighten screws properly, so we should expect them to make a good splice, is that your argument? Not very logical, and where is your data that shows that DIYers don't tighten screws properly. So if a rookie changes a recep in the future won't that require that they tighten screws on the new recep, so how exactly does splicing and pig tailing now change that future process? Having taught rookies how to make splices I can assure you that making a splice is not intuitive and is much harder to grasp and perform than tightening a screw. The tab on a recep will not break unless someone physically takes a tool to it and breaks it. It will not fail electrically due to overloading unless that cheepo 15A recep, whose tab is rated for 20A, has +30A flowing the tab (UL498). I do an installation based on following applicable codes and using the methods and lessons I've learned in over 40 years as an electrician. I do not and cannot make wiring decisions based on "what if stupid x in the future." If that was my standard, I've have to overbuild every aspect of projects and I'd be out of business quickly. Daisy chaining and pig tailing, when done properly, are equal in integrity and function and while you and others have shared your opinions and beliefs, nobody has provided any actual evidence that one is better than the other. Pros recommend pigtailing because of the long standing myth in the trade that pigtailing is better, not because they've thought it through and made an informed decision based on what someone might do in the future. Most opinions on this topic are based on lack of experience and knowledge, thanks for yours.
@BoatyMcBoatface669
@BoatyMcBoatface669 Год назад
@@mikecarr4178 Thank you, I appreciate the follow up and see your point. I always use a pigtail too, so I don't disagree. Being pedantic in chat again, trying to understand it MY way.
@Paul.Douglas
@Paul.Douglas 9 месяцев назад
Great video. I agree that wires should ALWAYS be twisted before installing a wire nut. It’s not just DIYers, I wish some “pros” would do half as neat of a job as you’ve done here. A lot of wiring I’ve ran across as a homeowner has been atrocious! When I do my own install, I remove about 1” of insulation about 6” from the end of the wire, wrap that once around the 1st receptacle terminal screw (make a u-turn) and then connect the end to the 2nd receptacle. I do this for all 3 wires including feed through, unless they’re on a separate circuit. Also, the aircraft electrician in me can’t stand the even the thought of using any kind of push in or lever lock device. I know, different environment, but that prejudice is still there.
@1575murray
@1575murray 8 месяцев назад
I use that method too. It works when wiring multiple devices in the same box and saves splices which can be a point of failure. I don't use the lever lock connectors either as I prefer the old school wire nuts.
@adisharr
@adisharr Год назад
The feed wire being in the middle or end makes no difference. The resistance difference is so small it's practically immeasurable. I do find it helpful to take a small piece of sheathing, write the legend on it, then slip it over the hot wires if you have a more complex switch / outlet arrangement.
@edwardlucas3575
@edwardlucas3575 Год назад
I agree that putting the feed wire in the middle makes no difference. When doing a job, I try my best to follow a consistent pattern of doing things so the next person can more easily interpret what I have done. I like your idea of making a legend from a small piece of sheathing.
@arnokilianski7889
@arnokilianski7889 Год назад
In Ontario Canada, you're allowed to daisy chain the live wires, but have to use the pigtail method for the neutral.
@TwilightxKnight13
@TwilightxKnight13 Год назад
The only reason to allow that is to protect shared neutrals in multiwire branch circuits. In the US, we generally do not allow neutral sharing anymore, so daisy chaining should be more permissible. However, probably due to the history, we generally do not allow it and require pig tailing. Of all the inspectors I have encountered, none of them allow daisy chaining and haven't for a number of code cycles. YMMV
@pld8993
@pld8993 Год назад
@@TwilightxKnight13 We absolutely allow neutral sharing, code reference? And inspectors don't get to forbid daisy chaining and require pigtailing when daisy chaining is code compliant.
@shawnhicks619
@shawnhicks619 Год назад
For diyers using wire nuts pre twist is the most reliable way to connect. Never used waygo until recently and they are quite handy. And as others have commented connecting solid wire to stranded wire seems to be superior to wire nuts. I don’t subscribe to the equal load theory of placing the hot wire in the center(it shouldnt have much deviation) however always placing the hot in the center makes it a known location for incoming supply for future work inside a box. Like many other electricians I’ve seen some really odd stuff both from diy and older electricians. But at the end of the day, if you are doing it yourself, you want to remember that mistakes when wiring is dangerous and can cost you your home or you or your loved ones lives. Taking a few extra minutes and spending a few extra dollars is the difference between a safe connection and a future catastrophe.
@dolphincliffs8864
@dolphincliffs8864 Год назад
F wagos. run a welder on wagos. Good luck. Tight is right. Surface area is right. Not an electrician,far from a Master. Better safe than dead.
@shawnhicks619
@shawnhicks619 Год назад
@@dolphincliffs8864 never said I ran a welder plug on wagos, said I used them for the first time recently, because it’s what I had that I could make work. On a 15 amp light circuit I don’t think it will be an issue. And to be fair I’ve only used wire nuts pretwisted wire connections until now. And, like it or not, wagos are NEC approved.
@silviakusada09
@silviakusada09 Месяц назад
Really love and appreciate your videos. Im learning, they are simple and clear.
@psavelli65
@psavelli65 Год назад
Great video - thank you for including WAGO connector info - I never thought about it, but putting the live feed in the middle for the 3 and 5 port connectors make sense. I swiched to mostly WAGO connectors because I've had some issues with good connections inside the wire nut but I was not pre-twisting my wires so I will also try that.
@veri745
@veri745 Год назад
Placement of the live feed into a wago isn't going to make a difference. It's only going to matter in cases where the load exceeds the capacity of the breaker, since the current limits of the connectors should far exceed that of the breaker.
@loktom4068
@loktom4068 Год назад
WAGO LEVER connectors is a game changer whenever the electrical box is open and only discovered the wires were cut too short by some people simply don't care for the next time.
@Christian-rt3kg
@Christian-rt3kg Год назад
Thank you for all your videos, your channel is fantastic! You explain everything perfectly. Keep up the great work!
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Wow, you are very welcome. Really glad to hear you have been getting value from the channel. Really means a lot to me. Thanks a lot for the feedback Christian!
@darcam
@darcam Год назад
I don't think the actual issue of power distribution is effective by putting in the center or not as a rule, but like your issue of doing Daisy chain and pig tail, putting the line in the center allows minimal failure across the small buss that is attached instead of on side having to carry full load, if all plugs are being used it will be better or more equal divided to the respective outlets and not all going through one potential failure point to go through. Placement in the center reduces the failure potential and load on any one side of the device.
@PotatoClips
@PotatoClips Год назад
If you daisy chain and the first outlet breaks, the second outlet is not effected because its tab is just a piece of metal outside the outlet components. In the event of a short, the breaker would cut power to all of them whether daisy chained or not. Wago in-out spots won't matter but being consistent for ease of maintenance is good enough reason.
@toddforney5198
@toddforney5198 Год назад
Very helpful video. I've gone through all of the switches and outlets in our house. God knows what some professional/licensed electricians were thinking when they were installed. (Maybe it was up to code 40 years ago.) It took days, but we're feeling a lot safer. For some questionable stuff, I called in the local electrical inspector. I can't say for everywhere, but they come out for "free" (included in your taxes) here. Keep up the good work!!
@anjhindul
@anjhindul Год назад
40 years ago code was very VERY different then today. Heck, Knob and tube was still in play until I think the early 50's, and then soldering the wires in the walls and receptacles was a thing until the late 80's... I got to update a few homes that had soldered connections... Gosh dang I can't believe they didn't burn down...
@LBCAndrew
@LBCAndrew 9 месяцев назад
40 years ago? Houses built in the late 60's to early 70's are known for having aluminum wiring. talk about a nightmare.
@AlexCastellano074
@AlexCastellano074 Год назад
One of if not the best video, really clear explanation of the procedure, great job & thanks !!
@HBSuccess
@HBSuccess Год назад
I think pigtails should be code in the future. It removes the outlet devices from always being in the load.path- they'll last.longer and the circuit will be more reliable. BTW I never use wirenuts or Wagos on the grounds...it's unnecessary and wastes space in the box. A tight twist with a Buchanan crimp sleeve over the twist is a solid mechanical connection. RE the "even load" idea.with your Wagos... If the conductors were 100' apart might matter, but at 3-4mm apart I doubt there is testing equipment.sensitive enough to measure any load imbalance or voltage drop. It’s always good to establish a consistent wiring method though and “line in the middle” makes perfect sense for that reason.
@pld8993
@pld8993 Год назад
I'm not sure why you think receps will last longer if pigtailed, given that they're designed for feedthrough current through the terminal screws. Feeding through the terminal screws is no less reliable than a good splice, and is more reliable than a bad splice.
@jamesboniface8779
@jamesboniface8779 Год назад
Even when wired in series, (daisy chain) the internals of the first device are NOT in the load path. It's only the external screws and the jumper. Is there a limited life span or max current for the screws and jumper vs the rest of the circuit?
@pld8993
@pld8993 Год назад
@@jamesboniface8779 Correct, in one screw and out the other has no effect on the internals o the recep. But daisy chaining is NOT series. Going in one screw and out the other is NOT series. UL498, the bridge/link between the terminal screws on a 15A recep is rated for 20A. UL testing requires that it hold 150% of its rating for 8 seconds. In other words, the bridge between terminal screws on a cheepo 15A recep must hold 30A for 8 seconds in order to be UL listed as a 15A recep. Hospital and industrial grade receps must hold 250% of their rating. Going in one terminal screw and out the other is EXACTLY how they're designed to be wired. The idea that pigtails are better than using the terminal screws is a HUGE myth in the trade and unsupported by evidence.
@pgalloway99
@pgalloway99 Год назад
I think wago clips are easier to use on occasional jobs. They are more expensive than wire nuts, but it you only need a few each time you wire an outlet or light switch the difference in cost is negligible.
@johnpicard4909
@johnpicard4909 Год назад
Great job! Like you said, Daisy chaining is legal but pigtails are better in every way. I have seen numerous circuits go down due to a failure at one of the receptacles and it can be a pain to find the issue. Also pigtails make everything so much cleaner and easier.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Really glad to hear you liked it. Thanks a lot for the feedback John!
@pld8993
@pld8993 Год назад
Please share your evidence/data that shows pigtailing is better in every way. You can't, because that data does not exist. Terminal screws on a standard 15A recep are designed, manufactured, and UL tested and listed for 20A feedthrough current. The "failures" at receps are not simply from using terminal screws; it's because of a loose connection, overloading, etc.. I've seen failed splices, that does not mean that using terminal screws is superior to splicing. Just last month I had a dead circuit due to a failed splice. If only they had simply used the terminal screws instead of unnecessarily pigtailing, that problem would not have arisen. See how your better in every way argument can go both ways? Pigtails better than terminal screws is a very popular myth in the trade, with no actual evidence to back it up.
@mtstewdog
@mtstewdog Год назад
Enjoyed this video, thanks. There is another option for wiring two duplex outlets in a 2-gang box and this is my preferred method. First, full disclosure - I am NOT an electrician. But I do own several Ace Hardware stores and have been in the hardware business my entire life and I do all my own electrical work. Anyway, I wire two duplex outlets by stripping about 8" of the sheathing off a piece of 12/2 Romex and then strip the insulation off the black and white wires in two places, about 4" apart, one at the end, of course, and the other about 4" down from the end. The stripped wire furthest from the end gets looped around the appropriate terminal screw of one duplex outlet, then the stripped end of the wire gets looped around the appropriate terminal screw of the other outlet. Repeat this process with the other wire, as well as the ground wire. I don't like doing pigtails unless absolutely necessary because it becomes significantly more challenging to "stuff" all the wires with twists and wire nuts into the box. Also, I agree with you on twisting wires before adding the wire nut. More than once I've encountered intermittent or bad connections due to untwisted wires coming loose inside a wire nut. Thanks Again!
@TwilightxKnight13
@TwilightxKnight13 Год назад
What you are doing is "mid stripping" and there is nothing wrong with it, at least from a Code perspective. However, it tends to be more time consuming and slightly more dangerous to do compared to wire strippers. So, you won't see a lot of professional electricians doing it. Connectors like wire nuts are incredibly cheap compared to labor costs so it is generally more cost effective to spend more on materials if it will make the labor faster and more efficient. That is not a factor for DiY so you can theoretically save a few bucks by eliminating the wire nuts. Course if you ever have to hire an electrician to come in, they may not like it and may "update" your connections to pig tails.
@robertpronovost9383
@robertpronovost9383 Год назад
If you had a double outlet in a location that requires GFCI you could put the GFCI in position 1 and daisy chain a separate receptacle which would have GFCI protection.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Absolutely!
@suburbangardenpermaculture3117
I thought that's EXACTLY how all GFCI were supposed to be wired. If you parallel a GFCI, it's only protecting itself. If you series the Line thru the GFCI, *EVERYTHING* down line from there IS protected. Any other way sounds very specific, or dumb, depending on situation. And I'm a DIY'er who understands that basic concept.
@mbburry4759
@mbburry4759 Год назад
​@@suburbangardenpermaculture3117 gfci breaker even better
@britcom1
@britcom1 Год назад
I was taught to always put a crimp on the ground wire pigtails instead of wire nuts to meet code in NY.
@recbo
@recbo 5 месяцев назад
One inspector hadnt seen the ground pigtail crimp, but he thought it added to just twisting the bare wires together. Well yeah, maybe his first day in a metro area, or just first day.
@DaveDawdy
@DaveDawdy Год назад
The best reason is because the NEC requires pigtailing receptacles. You cannot depend on a device for continuity of the neutral. NEC 300.13(B)
@pld8993
@pld8993 Год назад
Not true. 300.13(B) requires pigtailing of neutrals only, and only in multi-wire branch circuits. Individual branch circuits, no pigtails required.
@JohnSmith-qi6co
@JohnSmith-qi6co Год назад
My guess is that putting the feed wire in the middle of the Wago might make a 0.0001 ohm difference, but the advantage is that, upon inspection, it shows that the installer cares about details and that gives everyone a comfortable feeling! I'd go with it!
@charlierivera1946
@charlierivera1946 Год назад
Excellent like always brother, very informative . Congrats!
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Really glad to hear you liked it. Thanks a lot for the feedback Charlie!
@joshcowart2446
@joshcowart2446 Год назад
Pigtail can mean other things. In plumbing we refer to cords as pigtails. Not all plugs but when you add one on. Usually this is done on disposals, dishwashers, and occasionally on tankless water heaters. They’re all relatively low amp 120. I have occasionally seen them on 240 volt tank type water heaters. They’ll use a 3 prong dryer cord. I don’t do like doing this but when I think about it I can’t see what’s wrong with it. As far as I’m aware dryers pull more amps generally so the cord should be rated for it and it gives you a quick disconnect so you don’t have to use the panel. Maybe an electrician can tell me if this is good or bad.
@DaveDawdy
@DaveDawdy Год назад
Edit: You are only required to pigtail the neutral and ground wire in multi-conductor circuits (meaning a hot wire from each phase of the 240VAC with a common neutral). But when I wrote my exam for my Journeyman's license they required pigtails in the test.
@markvanbritsom4209
@markvanbritsom4209 Год назад
In the electrical world in residential wiring, it is frowned upon greatly, and in some instances not even legal to run two hots off separate phases off one neutral off a 240 V single phase panel, each hot wire must have its own neutral on 120 V circuits , the opposite phase of 120 v or some portion of it will backfeed through the neutral if something is plugged in on the phase your not working on . back in the 1980s We used to run 12-3 and 14-3 romex to feed 2 bedroom circuits, one kitchen, outlet circuit, and a dishwasher together, but that’s no longer permitted. In the electrical union since most jobs are commercial or industrial jobs that is why you are all taught to pigtail everything and for good reason , in 1985 I was a master electrician already and took the test and was second out of 400 , those tests were tough , for the newbies , there are to many people giving bad advice on RU-vid for electrical work
@pld8993
@pld8993 Год назад
@@markvanbritsom4209 It's not illegal to share a neutral or even frowned upon and it is most certainly still permitted, it just doesn't make sense to do it in most residential circuits. In the old days you could share a neutral and use single pole breakers just like any individual circuit; now you must either install a 2-pole breaker or 2 single pole breakers with a handle tie. Because most residential circuits require AFCI breakers, it's now impractical and expensive to share a neutral because it would require 2-pole AFCI breakers, which are expensive and not so readily available.
@shadowopsairman1583
@shadowopsairman1583 Год назад
@@pld8993 I don't see really any afci breakers in the big box stores and majority of panels out are on old homes, heck I dealt with a home with UBI-Z type breakers
@pld8993
@pld8993 Год назад
@@shadowopsairman1583 I don't get my supplies from the big box stores but I know they carry AFCI breakers, though I don't think I've ever seen 2-pole AFCIs on the their shelves.
@GTLee9
@GTLee9 Год назад
@@shadowopsairman1583 Eaton is selling GFCI/AFCI electronic breakers. If you share the neutral it’ll trip the breaker.
@cwl206
@cwl206 Год назад
Many likes and subs! I really enjoy your videos, clear, concise and to the pt! I really like that your videos are around 10 minutes and it always seems to go so fast! I am learning a lot for you Adam so many thanks!
@Ifeguy
@Ifeguy Год назад
I think you have a rather rudimentary understanding of the issue and miss a major reason. A major reason for pig tailing is that when you are doing construction you can complete your rough wiring including box pass throughs for all branch circuits.. You can completely buzz out each branch circuit and know you are good from end to end. Otherwise you won't be able to do that step until you do your finish electrical which doesn't occur until after drywall. And it sucks if you have a problem such as a pinched wire or a nail until after drywall because it is difficult to fix. afYes it is better to pigtail and not daisy chain multiple devices to minimize serial failure points. Usually those failures happen later when the homeowner changes switches or plugs though.. That said most DIY's struggle with a busy box with multiple pigtails.
@michaelschneider-
@michaelschneider- Год назад
+1 .. This guy is the bomb! Subscribed .... Yes, always pigtail & pre-twist wire-nut electrical connections.....
@4thechivostreamsarchive586
@4thechivostreamsarchive586 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for your videos. You've been so very helpful in helping me understand how to properly wire my home! ♥️
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 9 месяцев назад
You are very welcome! Really glad to hear you have found value in the channel! Thanks a lot for the feedback!
@markk3652
@markk3652 Год назад
There is no advantage in putting the feed wire in the center port of the wago. The construction of the wago insures that there is the same potential in all the ports once it’s energized. There doesn’t need to be a “balance point” or equidistant path for the power, electrons just don’t care. It won’t change the current, or speed of the devices connected to it in any way.
@jwick4320
@jwick4320 Год назад
What a rediculous argument 😄,it's a one piece lug internally,as you say doesnt matter.
@markk3652
@markk3652 Год назад
@@jwick4320 I know, right?!!
@scottt4081
@scottt4081 Год назад
Do you prefer hooking the wires around the posts of the outlet/switch or do you prefer screwing them down under the tab/bracket?
@richardlewis5316
@richardlewis5316 Год назад
I like your videos which I'm sure a viewed in different Countries so I think you should emphasis that the jobs you do are for your Country and anyone watching your videos should be advised that any electrical work MUST comply with the regulations for that Country. Here in the UK its Part P. But good to watch - always like to learn something new!
@USABrendan
@USABrendan Год назад
Wago instructions make no indication that line/supply conductor should be in the middle and load on the outer sides, at least so far as I could determine. While if each load wire was equally loaded you would have less current on each sub-portion of the metallic strip, the ampere limit of the device and circuit remains the same. I speculate that most of the heat comes from the wiring itself and the ambient surroundings. Not a lot of resistance in a Wago: milliOhms I expect, so the additional I^2 R loss wouldn’t be huge in absolute terms, and the differences in Vdrop would be practically insignificant even at full load. Think of a main lug panel being fed from the top rather than the middle of the bus bar, to make an analogy.
@nathanhale7444
@nathanhale7444 Год назад
I've always had a love hate relationship with wire nuts. I've seen some that had several wires bundled together that had one wire that was kinda loose. I'm not an electrician just a DIYer.
@tallpaul8880
@tallpaul8880 11 месяцев назад
I always attach the pigtails to the device and have the Wego connecting the wires in the box. That way I can prep all devices on a bench top quick and securely in a comfortable position, then plug them into The Wego’s and minimize my time bent over at outlet height. ✌🏻🇺🇸
@946towguy2
@946towguy2 Год назад
I prefer to use lazy loops when wiring a terminal double duplex outlet. If there is a a box downstream, I try to pull a loop and I mark the casing on the downstream side. I pull about 12" out of the box. The ground wire gets a small loop to be grounded or secured to the box. I strip about 3/4" of insulation off the conductors about 4" out of the box and then strip and loop at the ends. I loop them over the terminals on the first outlet and then put the end loops on the second outlet. The ground wire is run over the ground screws on each outlet then the loop in the ground wire is secured to the inside of the box with a green screw. Ideally, this provides unbroken wires from the panel to the end of the circuit. Also, I use bare copper ground crimp sleeves to connect ground wires, rather than wire nuts.
@markb5441
@markb5441 Год назад
Great demo, have been looking to add a switch for another set of lights.
@justinp85
@justinp85 Год назад
How exactly is the outlet failing unless you break the tabs? If you are just going from one outlet to another, it’s easier to just get a commercial grade outlet and back wire (not back stab) them. If you have more wires in the box, then I would use a pigtail with wago because it’s easier to push the receptacle back. I feel like this subject has been beaten to death and opinions on what to do in commercial settings vs home, plus habits of old and young electricians are muddying the water.
@johnpicard4909
@johnpicard4909 Год назад
Receptacles fail all of the time. Not the receptacles themselves normally but usually someone not installing them properly. So what he’s saying is correct.
@pld8993
@pld8993 Год назад
@@johnpicard4909 Properly installed receps do not fail all the time, they fail almost never. I say that based on over 40 years in trade. By adding a pigtail you're adding a potential point of failure. Terminal screws are designed, manufactured, and UL listed for feedthrough current. So in order to eliminate the chance that an amateur won't tighten the screw sufficiently you want them to make a splice? Makes no sense.
@davidschwartz5127
@davidschwartz5127 Год назад
If I recall correctionally that Yes it is legal to connect the hot wire by daisy chaining thru the devices but not so on the identified conductors, the code says it must be continuous conductor independent of any devices. all my career I always pigtailed both sides.
@jeremynelson8496
@jeremynelson8496 Год назад
I don't think I have ever worked on a house that wasn't daisy chained. it's easy enough to find where the chain is broken if there is an issue. The only concern I have is when the hardware is wired through the stab locks. Don't do it,
@DGTubbs
@DGTubbs Год назад
Anyone who doesn't know what a pigtail is or how to use one should NOT DIY electrical work in their house...without seeing this video first! Great job Adam! 👍
@ElementofKindness
@ElementofKindness Год назад
Utterly nothing wrong with daisy chaining outlets, via the screw or clamp connections. It is a screw-to-screw buss. There is nothing to fail. Wagos, on the other hand, is asking for trouble. (much like that of stab in connections on back of some receptacles)
@chrisloesch1870
@chrisloesch1870 Год назад
Welllllll the connecting metal plate between the buss screws can fail and that’s often when a circuit has a fair amount of current running through a line to downstream outlets. That’s why pigtails or wagos are better in my opinion. That connecting plate can get quite hot and crack breaking the connector causing the feeds to arc and that’s when you have a fire and or the outlet melts.
@ElementofKindness
@ElementofKindness Год назад
@@chrisloesch1870 And the tiny piece of metal in a Wago, with an even tinier contact surface between the periphery of the conductor, and the flat edge of the Wago contact? There's no way your convincing me that the contact surface area of a Wago is higher than screw terminals.
@chrisloesch1870
@chrisloesch1870 Год назад
@@ElementofKindness I’m not talking about push connectors that look like wagos. And I agree with you there. However there is a difference between true Wagos which have a much wider connection plate, but I would still pigtail if I knew there was likely a lot of current likely to flow through the circuit.
@queens.dee.223
@queens.dee.223 Год назад
Every home I've done DIY work in, I'm found at least one two-gang box where the person before me cut the insulation 3" from the end, half-looped the exposed conductor under the terminal screw of one device, then cut the insulation off the end and connected that end to the next device's terminal. That's always felt icky to me. Then again, I'm not a pro. Then again one more time, being a pro does not guarantee following good practice. I'm curious to know people's thoughts. Cool video :)
@pld8993
@pld8993 Год назад
In other words, remove a section of insulation in the middle of the conductor, loop that section around one screw on a device, then strip the end off the remaining length for attachment to another device, keeping the conductor continuous with no splices. Nothing wrong with doing it that way and many times it's the best way to do it, as long the conductor is long enough to make all those connections comfortably. And eliminating a splice is eliminating a potential point of failure. It's especially helpful and efficient to do it this way when, for example, you have 3 or 4 switches in a single box that all need a line connection to power. Also works well for grounds, though if using Romex there's obviously no insulation to strip. when done properly, not icky at all.
@queens.dee.223
@queens.dee.223 Год назад
@@pld8993 Thanks for the detailed explanation. I'm always glad for the chance to understand something better.
@surferdude642
@surferdude642 Год назад
I'm not a pro either, but I've heard of that method and considered it to be a hack job. I tried it and to my surprise I was amazed at how well it works. The connections are solid, even with 12 gauge wire. This method has the greatest advantage for the ground wire because you can still use the green wire nut and there's no wire stripping necessary if it's a bare wire.
@hughgriffiths302
@hughgriffiths302 Год назад
You must daisy chain if you are using one GFI to supply GFI protected power to a second or third receptacle.
@RYTHMICRIOT
@RYTHMICRIOT 5 дней назад
As someone who has just done this for the first time and wired a half dozen outlets, I was surprised that home wiring methods are still this archaic. I've spent countless hours with automotive wiring and there's a proper termination or connector for every possible scenario. Using twist connectors and cramming the excess wire to the back of the box just feels primitive. I feel like the Romex should terminate to the gang box and your outlet or switch should plug into a receptacle in the gang box and then be secured with screws. That way you're not trying to cram solid core wire.
@pqrstsma2011
@pqrstsma2011 Год назад
8:35 for such a small device, it wouldn't really matter, but having it in the middle would definitely satisfy my OCD
@ts9625
@ts9625 Год назад
In another RU-vid video where wago connectors were tested, they got hot with full load current running between the outside slots. It seems that having the line feed through the middle will reduce the resistance of each circuit and thereby reduce heat buildup.
@iwantosavemoney
@iwantosavemoney Год назад
Brother this is so awesome you are sharing your trade I know a lot about plumbing but very little about electrical but having trouble and I think I can do some investigating and probably fix my issues fairly simple.
@lespaul36
@lespaul36 10 месяцев назад
As an ex electrician I throw my 2 cents. I was not a big fan of them initially. However when working construction sites with contract guys that often didn't even own a drill and being on crunch (as usual) I would have a guy with prefabbed grounding wire go through each outlet (often to get through first stage of inspection), others pigtail outlets, then a few guys drop off at the location the outlets for a more experienced electrician to connect to feed/load wires. I admit in those times Wagos were new and used a lot, I tend to use them a lot now in residential situations. I mean I can have my minor daughter's hit up the outlets and Wago them without much skill. Not to say my daughters cannot act as great appetence electricians with their skill levels, they can probably rewire a house legally more than some I have worked for.
@shortstoriesbyjerry870
@shortstoriesbyjerry870 10 месяцев назад
I like your work station behind you in the video.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY 10 месяцев назад
I don’t remember what it looks like in this video but it’s usually a mess. So not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not 😂
@JimMagarity
@JimMagarity 6 месяцев назад
excellent no fluff explanation
@zacharythebeau163
@zacharythebeau163 Год назад
I'll pigtail the outlets however only one. I'll daisy chain while in the same box, my line of thought is more that the device may fail but the unless the tabs over hear and melt they are still connected. If they get that hot neither outlet and possibly the whole circuit should be off until fixed. You're likely to remove both outlets when in the same box to work on one anyway. So if one device fails it will still run the other chained to it unless there is a more serious issue.
@troyange1545
@troyange1545 Год назад
I'm a die hard pretwist guy. My house had some that were not and somehow wire nuts have come off and I would loose power in the chain. It took me 2 years to find the last one. I had rewired it long before I found it.
@recbo
@recbo 5 месяцев назад
Absolutely, pretwist and never have a loose connection at a pigtail.
@cdc3
@cdc3 Год назад
LOL. I was wiring an addition I built in Sacramento about 20 years ago and had to have an electrical inspection on my wiring job. The inspector came in, found everything had been pigtailed and proceeded to write me a correction notice. I told him it was the best method and he went to check with his supervisor. When he came back the next day, his tune had changed. When I've wired a house, it's always been pigtailed and I NEVER install less than a 20a circuit...
@mrlencho7686
@mrlencho7686 Год назад
Very helpful for a A Tinknocker like me. And I myself would sleep better at night knowing I put the supply feed in the center of that Doo dad 👍🏼🇺🇸
@brettfoster6786
@brettfoster6786 Год назад
Smart advice. . I m wiring my old house . 120 years old and scary bare wires.
@shopenasupply
@shopenasupply Год назад
great demo! we'll make sure to keep this in mind.
@TestyCool
@TestyCool Год назад
I have been messing with small and home electronic since I was in high school. I think I see why it is recommended to wire the wago like that. Say you have ports 1 ,2 ,and 3. If you used port 1 as the input. When you draw a load from ports 2 and 3. All of that load is going through the metal that connects ports 1 and 2. If you use port 2 as the input. Then draw a load from 1 and 3. Now the current going through any single piece of the wago is cut in half. Making it more resistant to over loading.
@jorea718
@jorea718 Год назад
This is exactly what I needed. Thank you so much.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Really glad to hear you liked it. Thanks a lot for the feedback!
@warrenmichael918
@warrenmichael918 Год назад
Just curious what situation you were in that made this video EXACTLY what you needed? Were you having trouble with some receptacles that were not working correctly because they were wired like this?
@JeffDM
@JeffDM 7 месяцев назад
I wonder what kind of outlet failure would break power to downstream outlets when daisy chaining power between outlets. Daisy chained power isn't even going through the outlet socket so a socket failure wouldn't affect daisy chained outlets. It seems like it would be catastrophic or something unrelated like the screw going loose. I do like the pigtail technique though. It might be easier to work on.
@macgvrs
@macgvrs Год назад
One of the reasons they can get away with a relatively thin plate of metal in the Wagos is the very short length of it. I was intrigued to see how thin a wire was inside a dimmer switch that connected the switch to the incoming power lead. The reason for that thin wire was for it to act like a fuse (and it did). The fact that it didn't fry under normal conditions is because it is so short. The reason you have to increase your wire size when it gets beyond a certain length is because of the resistance of the longer wire. The shorter the wire, the less the resistance and the lower the heat. The higher the resistance, the greater the heat. That also explains why you don't want to use romex style wiring in conduit. Heat is your enemy. The plate in the Wago style connectors has been carefully calculated to handle the required current and I don't believe it matters where you connect the power lead. Again, that plate is very short. The designers have to know how these would be used and that many users weren't going to worry about where each wire goes.
@pld8993
@pld8993 Год назад
The reason why a dimmer has a smaller conductor than your power conductors is because a dimmer is rated for only 600W/5amps, not because it's short. Same reason why most light fixture leads are smaller, because the fixtures are rated for far less than 15amps. Running Romex inside conduit is not a problem and does not generate excessive heat, but Romex in conduit is not usually necessary and is an amateurish way to run it, has nothing to do with heat.
@macgvrs
@macgvrs Год назад
@@pld8993 Well, I guess it depends on how far you are going to run the wiring but the book I read did reference the issue of heat. Definitely not necessary to run Romex style wiring in conduit and the outer cover takes up room and can reduce the number of wires you can put in the conduit. Inside the dimmer the wire used wasn't much bigger than a single strand of stranded 14 gauge. Very tiny.
@macgvrs
@macgvrs Год назад
@@pld8993 I want to expand on my comment. In the Practical Wiring Handbook they mention ampacity which is the capacity of wire to handle current without exceeding its temperature rating. There is a reason they no longer sell 16 gauge extension cords. They can't handle 15 amps of current without getting too hot. One of the limiting factors for wiring is the amount of resistance per foot it has. That is why they have charts that indicate the size wire needed for a particular current over a given distance. A wire that has a a high internal resistance will handle less current than a wire that has low internal resistance. Your toaster operates on the principal of using a wire with high resistance which is why it gets hot. They also use materials that can handle the heat. Heat is a factor because resistance is a factor. If a piece of wire is too small for the current flowing through it, it will get hot. That is because the resistance of the wire is too high for the current flowing through it. Think of ohms law. The other issue is that the voltage will be lower than it should be if the wire used is too small.
@pld8993
@pld8993 Год назад
@@macgvrs Yes, current flowing through a conductor generates heat and conductor sizes are assigned a maximum amperage to manage/limit that heat. Extension cords with 16 and even 18 are still being sold, btw. With regard to dimmers and light fixtures, they tend to be smaller conductors than 14 because the product is limited (by design and construction) to a particular current rating, not because they are short. A typical recessed can, for example, will never carry more than 150W (and with LEDs today probably less than 10w) which is barely 1 amp, so the internal conductors don't need to be 14 or even anything close to it. Starting with the 2023 NEC, limited use of 10 amp circuits using 16 are now allowed. I haven't seen anyone making 16 romex yet, but it's coming.
@macgvrs
@macgvrs Год назад
@@pld8993 In our area 16 gauge extension cords are not available. Wish they were.
@mrmnew
@mrmnew Год назад
You are a great teacher! Thank you for all of the content. I wonder- could you explain how to install a 4-position switch for a ceiling fan?
@markvanbritsom4209
@markvanbritsom4209 Год назад
Unless you have a wire going up to the ceiling with a black white and red in it , you will not be able to separate the light from the fan
@reduggan
@reduggan Год назад
Good advice! Thank you.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the feedback!
@bruscifer
@bruscifer Год назад
Damn I wish I had seen this a week or so ago when I built my power cord. It would have been SO much easier. I'm not gonna take it apart now because it's all liquid taped up, but next time! Thanks for making this clearer for us non-professionals.
@Imwright720
@Imwright720 Год назад
They daisy chain, even though they say otherwise. I’ve never seen it the other way. Even if one goes out the power is still connected. It doesn’t require the plug to work it’s wired on the outside.
@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt
@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt Год назад
Firstly, Wago (pronounced v•ah•go [it's German]) are a name brand of *lever nut.* Generics are available for less cost. However, in my experience, this is a case of you-get-what-you-pay-for. Thus, I gladly pay for the name brand in this case. One exception is low voltage wiring. Here, due to the large number of connectors, coupled with the use of DIN rail and enclosures, Dinkle makes some very fine substitutes. Secondly, Wago 221 lever nuts are rated for 32A/450V, so there should be no hesitancy using these in typical residential (or commercial for that matter) applications. Thirdly, for the DIYer, lever nuts are the way to go. They're as idiot-proof as it gets. I've seen far too many issues with DIY-installations using wire nuts (and lots of professional installations, as well). Pre-twisting is also a must, in my opinion. Lever nuts also take up far less space and are much less prone to slippage, making the process of tucking everything away nicely and closing up the box much, much easier. Lastly, another option wasn't presented here: push-in connectors. Like lever nuts, but less expensive, push-in connectors provide for the same fast, easy and secure connections as lever nuts--particularly for solid wire. In the case of thin stranded wire, I first install ferrules. However, that increases costs and time in multiple ways, so I usually reserve push-in connectors for solid wire applications.
@kaasmeester5903
@kaasmeester5903 Год назад
Here in the Netherlands, push connectors seem to be the most prevalent choice by far (both in DYI and pro installations), I haven't come across a wire nut in years. But I fully agree on Wagos being the best choice for DYIers. One issue with push connectors is that you shouldn't re-use them, but not all DYIers are aware of that.
@danielgraytube
@danielgraytube 6 месяцев назад
Your knowledge is appreciated Sir. Thank you.
@chrisgraham2904
@chrisgraham2904 5 месяцев назад
I would assume that this method of individually pigtailing receptacles does not apply when wiring a GFI receptacle that is going to supply one or more non-GFI receptacles from the Load screws, if you want the downstream non-GFI receptacles to be protected by the GFI. Providing individual pigtails and individual power to the downstream non-GFI receptacles would eliminate the GFI protection.
@surferdude642
@surferdude642 3 месяца назад
Correct
@thedevilinthecircuit1414
@thedevilinthecircuit1414 Год назад
The construction of the conductor in a Wago connector is not a series scheme; it's parallel--so all connections, no matter whether it's a supply or a load--see the same resistance through the connector.
@I-build-crafts
@I-build-crafts 5 месяцев назад
I have a question that I am sure you know the answer to and one that I can't find an answer online. How many outgoing power feeds can I pull from an outlet using a pigtail? I am using 12/2 wire from a 20 amp outlet receptacles with a 20 amp breaker. Thanks for the help.
@surferdude642
@surferdude642 3 месяца назад
There's no set number, just make sure your anticipated load is 16 amps or less. So it could be a lot since you probably would only use a few simultaneously and the current draw may lower in at least some of them.
@DemureDave
@DemureDave Год назад
I was confused at first, since I've worked in another industry where a pigtail refers to the bend at the end of the wire, cause it curls around kinda like a pig tail; so I assumed that this video was going to be talking about using a pigtail, as in the hook for the screw terminal. 😅 Good information, though!
@AgentOffice
@AgentOffice Год назад
That's a j hook
@DemureDave
@DemureDave Год назад
@@AgentOffice Okay. That makes sense, too. As I said, I worked in a completely different industry, but it wasn't with electricity. I worked with safety wire. When you finish off the final twist of safety wire, it's bent around in a similar way and we call it a pigtail.
@AgentOffice
@AgentOffice Год назад
@@DemureDave that's kinda the same then, you're combining them together so pigtail
@scooterjmj1
@scooterjmj1 Год назад
How about wiring double outlets in multiple boxes using three way switches? Love your videos!
@kingdomcalled1403
@kingdomcalled1403 Год назад
Jim from Ohio Exactly how I do it !!! ✨👍Thanks👍✨
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Awesome! Stay warm. Looks like it’s going to be quite chilly soon. Thanks for the feedback!
@bobvecchi304
@bobvecchi304 Год назад
I am also a retired master electrician (over 45 years) and I used a method that is better than pigtailing or using the terminals. I would leave enough wire in the the box on roughing so I could skin the wire in multiple places depending how many receptacles (or other devices) were being installed. I would loop the wire around the terminal screw of each device. By using this method the device is not being used as the feed through, the wire performs that function, the device is tapped off the wire. This process also eliminates the number of conductors under the wire nut if it is even needed. Of course everything changes if you are working with stranded wire. I also would NEVER use the push in terminals. I have seem too many burned up receptacles and switches, not because of excessive current but because the connection in the terminal is poor. For this reason I am also not a fan of Wago connectors. Yes they are convenient to disconnect and reuse but I don’t trust the connections. Wire nuts have a looooong history of success if installed correctly. Of course if Wago wants to compensate me I could change my tune like the rest of the creators on this channel.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Wago hasn’t paid me a dime. I buy them with my own money. Thanks for all of the feedback though!
@corvettebob96
@corvettebob96 Год назад
8:45 I am not an electrician but putting the feed wire in the center makes sense to me. Electricity will take the path of less resistance. The wago conductor has some resistance. .000000001? In the grand scheme of things, I don't think it makes a difference. But, in the matrix, that .000000001 is vital.
@coldjello8436
@coldjello8436 Год назад
Algorithm boost, also I've always had difficulty bending solid wire to wrap around the terminal screws. Maybe you could do a video on that if you haven't already.
@kamX-rz4uy
@kamX-rz4uy Год назад
There's a hole on most wire strippers where you insert the wire and turn to bend it into a J hook.
@coldjello8436
@coldjello8436 Год назад
@@kamX-rz4uy thanks
@z1522
@z1522 Год назад
I believe the real issue is how clamp style backwiring should actually be at least as good, perhaps a better connection, than pigtailing. The trick is to just use two wires, under one clamp, so the current never passes through the insides of the receptacle at all; the flat wide plate contacts the wires under pressure, a far larger surface area than inside any WAGO type nut, and obviously the makers of the better backwire models designed in two grooves to each plate with this in mind. Why there is a "cone of silence" around this option is a mystery to me, especially when pigtailing adds inches more wire, and multiple nuts, within each box where space is at a premium. While many local codes disallow double wiring of breakers, the manufacturers of Square D actually provide that option, with torque specs on the breaker indicating how pressure clamping is perfectly valid for two wires of the same size, one on either side of the screw under the plate. I see zero difference in the same application on a receptacle, and further, I see this as a preferable method of pass-through on GFCI/AFCI receptacles as well in typical series wiring of kitchens, if a second branch or downstream outlet is involved.
@suttone1
@suttone1 Год назад
Very helpful!!
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Really glad to hear you liked it. Thanks a lot for the feedback!
@flintwoodworking
@flintwoodworking Год назад
Great content and very informative. Awesome video quality
@dennisgeroux4483
@dennisgeroux4483 Год назад
I can see that putting the hot lead in the middle of the Wago connector will distribute load to the left and right of the hot lead. If the hot was on one side and the load on the to outlets were high then the the power is being fed through the bus bar to the middle and the outside one. Load is resistance and resistance is heat and it might run a little hotter on the bus bar inside the Wago. Are you totally confused now?
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Haha not at all. Makes sense to me. Appreciate the input Dennis!
@BauTroi-Boston
@BauTroi-Boston Год назад
Hi, I need help "how to eliminate / remove the no-longer in-use 3 ways switch" after I installed a Single-Pole Motion Sensor Switch. Do you have a video how to on this topic? Please help. Best regards.
@alpagano50
@alpagano50 Год назад
so if you pigtail is this considered another connection in the box ? NEC says only so many connections per box size....
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Pigtails do not count towards box fill because they originate in the box.
@pld8993
@pld8993 Год назад
Conductors are limited by box fill rules, not connections.
@alpagano50
@alpagano50 Год назад
​@@HowToHomeDIY go back to school NEC is Code
@alpagano50
@alpagano50 Год назад
@@pld8993 go back to school NEC is Code
@alpagano50
@alpagano50 Год назад
If you jump you should do it under the same screw not above screw, this forces power thru small metal tab. I am a Lic electrician for over 45 years.
@daktusdurggery5505
@daktusdurggery5505 2 месяца назад
So if you have a further load down the line your have a 4th in each of those connections?
@danakraemer8512
@danakraemer8512 Год назад
A lot what if’s and yeah buts in this. I don’t know why someone would taper gauge between outlets. If you are placing 12 ga then you are building a 20 amp circuit. Reserve the 14 for the overhead lights. Just build to UBC and it should be good for quite some time.
@johnpicard4909
@johnpicard4909 Год назад
What are you talking about? Different sized wires weren’t talked about.
@joeldoxtator9804
@joeldoxtator9804 Год назад
How would the first outlet working even matter? The wire is connected with the bare metal on the outside of the plug assembly. It is literally the same as twisting the two wires together accept with terminal screws. Unless you are talking about a terminal screw failure, but that can happen with any connection.
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Yes any failure to deliver the power to the receptacle is going to cause the receptacle to fail. It’s not necessarily the device itself.
@MichaelPace2.0
@MichaelPace2.0 Год назад
Love your content!
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Really glad to hear you are finding value in it. Thanks a lot for taking the time to leave that feedback Michael. I really appreciate it!
@jeffhrycuna3349
@jeffhrycuna3349 Год назад
I’ve been a licensed master electrician since 1987 I’ve never backstabbed and the only time I pigtail is when I’m installing a quad receptacles or there’s 3 wires in the box
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Thanks a lot for the feedback Jeff! You have definitely been doing it a while!
@highlandcommunications1627
@highlandcommunications1627 Год назад
Great content as always Adam. Do you know of any overcurrent concerns with daisy-chaining receptacles? Also, what are your thoughts on ground plug up vs down?
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Thank you very much. I have heard of some overcurrent concerns from Daisy chaining, even if it’s not the receptacle that is being plugged into but one earlier in the line. I don’t think it happens very often but like everything else, a possibility. My thoughts on the ground plug are unless you are in a hospital setting, my ground goes down. I understand the thinking of if something falls on it that it could cause a short with the plug slightly pulled out but most items you plug in usually don’t have a ground anyways such as lamps, tvs, etc. So that wouldn’t really help. Also many plugs/cords such as for appliances, heavier items, surge protectors, etc. come with the lower profile plugs that are clearly designed to go down towards the ground. If the ground was up then it would cause strain on them because the cord would then be going up initially which could cause some issues over time. So to me, I install all of mine ground down in residential applications. I hope that all makes sense, would be nice if I could post pictures. Maybe I should do a video in the future. 🤔
@TomCee53
@TomCee53 Год назад
@@HowToHomeDIY Thanks for the video and your comments. I also prefer ground down except for that rare air conditioner with a flat plug and the ground up, probably intended for a simplex receptacle. The other place I've seen them is for outlets on a light switch. ✨️
@richardhoner7842
@richardhoner7842 Год назад
@@HowToHomeDIY Why would it be different in either a hospital or commercial setting?
@HowToHomeDIY
@HowToHomeDIY Год назад
Hospitals have machines plugged in that are literally keeping people alive. With the ground up it’s much less likely to get unplugged if something were to fall on the plug is one of the big reasons.
@pld8993
@pld8993 Год назад
There are exactly ZERO overcurrent concerns with daisy-chaining on properly installed receps/circuits. The terminal screws on a 15A recep are UL listed for 20A feed-through current, part of the reason why we can install 15A receps on a 20A circuit. If installed properly with the correct conductor and breaker size, overcurrent is a logical impossibility.
@travist444
@travist444 Год назад
If you were running them from your in feed to the two recipticals and then to an outfeed would it be up to code to do kind of like a four pig tail instead of a three or would that require more work to be code?
@pyromethious
@pyromethious Год назад
Is it common practice to wrap the levers on Wagos with electrical tape like you usually do with wire nuts?
@thenexthobby
@thenexthobby Год назад
I pre-twist because I only have 2 hands. I want the wires mechanically locked before the wire nut is added so that one hand holds the bundle and the other the wire nut that isn't fighting loose wires.
@keithwiebe1787
@keithwiebe1787 Год назад
Is it ok to daisy chain by putting 2 12 wires behind one screw. I'm talking about the wires coming in from the back and going under just one of the screws under the square washer. This would be on a commercial Leviton outlet. Why use both screws when one will do?
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