Love the d-pad comparisons you do in this video starting at about the 12:20 mark. Got a cheap closeout wired Direwolf on Amazon hoping I would get the same d-pad as on the Direwolf 2 and Vader 3 (too expensive for me) but the up direction kept sticking and I had to return it. Right now the circular d-pad on the surprisingly cheap Funlab Firefly (with your cardboard suggestion) is giving me the best d-pad response. Hope to see you do reviews on the Easysmx X10 and X15 soon to see what their d-pads are like. Your controller videos are second to none. Keep up the great work!
It's a shame it has potentiometer sticks. After the emergence of Hall effect ones I kinda refuse to consider buying anything that doesn't have them regardles of how feauture-rich those gamepads may be otherwise.
I'm the same way. Tired of buying 2-300 dollar pro controllers that always get stick drift. I just bought the gamesir t4 Kaleid with hall effect joysticks. My new rule is if it's the old school bs potentiometer sticks, I'm not buying it!!
The thing is, a quality potentiometer stick lasts. GameCube, no issues. PS2, no issues. I don't have much Xbox use, so I d'know there. I haven't read much about issues with any of them. It's just that now, the quality has fallen immensely.
@@CarrotsNotCakeI kind of vibe with this. I have a few hall effect controllers, I love them. But I returned my 8bitdo cause it indeed got stick drift, no wear, no taking it apart. Within a day I was getting drift. Those Victrix controllers? Say what you will about the build but those sticks are glorious to me.
@@x13RasorIt's funny because Hall triggers get so much less attention, but they're glorious. Hall sticks are like... theoretically an improvement, but in practice are clearly not a magic bullet. Production quality matters. I was kind of interested in their semi-modular one, but the lack of full modularity makes it a pass. If they're gonna do modular, they should actually do it instead of these half-baked products from Victrix and that eSwap one. eSwap is more three quarters baked, though.
This product is not officially available in Turkey. That's why I couldn't find any review videos. Thanks to you, I decided to buy the product from Amazon. Thanks so much for the great review.🙂
Very good detailed review! Special thanks for buttons clicks testing! Ended up buying KK3 MAX with almost silent buttons, because clicky buttons are irritating, i hated my xbox one controller for that.
@@Karma-jv1kh oui et effectivement c'est une très bonne manette. Pour le branchement parrainage il faut une manette séries x, raccordée de manière filaire. La gyroscopie ne fonctionne pas sur les séries S/X. Pas de mode turbo !! Mais le kit est complet, avec les sticks, la sacoche en fonction de la commande. Je serais curieux de la tester avec la mayflash Magic X
For $60 its a hell of a deal. Even with no Bluetooth, a lacking D-pad, and Daisychain requirements. It's ridiculous amounts of features and quality equals amazing value
First time watching a VK video and easliy subscribed. I liked how detailed each controler feature was described and finally found a channel showing how to connect these types of controllers to an Xbox. Tired of seeing a controller I'm interested in that's only for the Switch and PC. I'm holding out from buying anymore expensive new pro-controllers until they get hall effect thumbsticks, too much money for them to keep breaking.
I risked buying one despite the D-pad warning and with mine, the D-pad works perfectely fine at all areas yours didn't! 😃 The only things i could find are minor. - The left trigger when used with the trigger stop can be pushed a little deeper after hitting the 'stop' wich makes it feel 'vulnerable' of sorts. And with a trigger stop , the travel should be even less to my taste. - Also the stand isn't perfectly flat which makes it wobly on my desk. - The power button light can't be turned off and is too bright for me to play at night. I solved that with a sticker on top. I'm sure some of these things can vary with different copies. I still paid over € 100 and now they cost way less. A real bargain for such great device if you ask me.
I think sensitive diagonals on a d-pad isn't such an objectively good quality as you make it out to be. I think it's going to come down to how you position your thumb on the d-pad. You seem to move your entire thumb over to the direction you're pressing which explains why you would need sensitive diagonals. I rest my thumb near the middle of the d-pad and shift it a little to hit each direction which also makes hitting two directions at once very easy and thus I don't need sensitive diagonals and would rather they not be very sensitive to reduce the chance of a misinput. Just to get a feel for your opinion on d-pads, how do you feel about the d-pad on the Switch Pro Controller?
but it's not only that the problem, the diagonals are hard to hit because they have such a tiny sweetspot, you can see that by the end of the video where I'm trying to do a diagonal attack and often end up missing the attack entirely, its not impossible to play but you really need a lot of time to get used to it, meanwhile other controllers are just as intuitive as the original pro controller
Awesome review. I personally hated the face buttons so kuch that i returned it. If it had even slightly better membranes I wouldve held onto it cause everythingbelse was awesome.
Good review as always. I'd probably go with the Blitz instead of this one, but then i have to choose between Blitz, mobapad chitu, or the new Easysmx X10, ah decisions 😅
Thank you for the review, I've been looking for a review for this controller everywhere. Quick question does the headphones jack work when connected to Xbox wirelessly.
I need to know!!! I’m so close to getting this. I have the Blitz and I personally love it for my switch . This being on switch and xbox is a win win I just need to know if the headphone jack works for xbox.
What else couls you want besides the mechanical face buttons and the dpad? hall effect sticks would be nice but again you already have hall effect options in the market that you can modify
@@VKsChannel Both for being better and for having a broader market appeal, I think linear Kailh switches, four paddles instead of two paddles with two inset shoulder buttons (that one is more subjective, but I think most people would prefer four paddles), "HD" rumble, and swappable face buttons to match custom mapping.
@@CarrotsNotCake 4 paddles are exagerated, you only need 2, and moving 2 shortcuts to the top was the best decision they had, if you have 4 paddles you can accidentally press a button and mess up your match, but with 2 on the top there's no way to accidentally press them, they're the perfect extra button that is completely out of the way but not out of reach kailh switches to the face buttons is a good point and HD rumble is only relevant for the switch, and they workaround not being able to swap the buttons by including the second layout in the controller shell
@@VKsChannel I disagree about the paddles. Designed correctly, it's fine. I forget which controller it is that I had that had four, but at the time I made use of them. Was fun. But, it's a subjective thing for sure. I'd love to see those Kailh switches used more. They're fantastic. Well, that's just not true. Linear actuators are used in multiple controllers. You'd need twenty-four shells to have the same modularity that simply making the face buttons swappable gives. I know they made the rightmost face button be deeper, but that didn't have to be done. Is this currently your favourite controller?
Awesome and very detailed review. But now I dont know what to choose between this controller or Gulikit 2 Pro, what do you suggest? I mostly play games like Forza and Openworld games (Watchdog, GTA, Sleeping Dogs)
Some reviews mention the B button particularly feels bad. What did you think? Also I know lots of people are wanting hall effect sticks and this one has alps, but I think it has a centering function where the controller recalculates the center and outer ring. The Playstation 2 had this in its controllers.
Yes the b button feels slightly more resistant than the rest of them and that's because the B button hits a different board than the others resulting in a membrane that is taller on the B side But the difference is very small, the real letdown of this controller is the dpad
How to get the controller to work with the doggle on PC? I plugged in but seems windows doesn't recognize the controller. No issue with bluetooth or wired.
anyone know how good the gyro is? i bought the armor x pro adapter for an xbox controller before and the gyro was almost useless for FPS aiming type stuff. i tried every setting combination and it would either drift too much or else not react to small movements. this controller seems to be ticking all the boxes for me so it would be great if the gyro was actually useable
The 9124 Pro review is ready, but easysmx is fixing a problem with the back buttons, as soon as it is fixed I'll release the review, and gamesir didn't send me a t4 kaleid so I won't be reviewing it sadly =/
it is therefore compatible with an S series!! via the tab ??!! like the armor x pro!! it's crazy, because it is sold as not compatible and dedicated to Android, PC and Switch
I have a problem when I connect the Sony 4 controller to the PS5. It says the controller has caught the Sony 4. I have to connect an account, but I can't control it with the controller.
Almost perfect. Almost. I don't really care about the switches but I do care about the triggers, sticks and latency. 1100Hz polling rate?! Awesome! Hall triggers?! Awesome! NO vibration motors on the trigger?! I'm sad! I value vibration motors on the triggers very highly because I play a lot of racing games and they're very useful in conveying important information such as loss of grip or brake locking. Without those, it will be harder since I have to rely on visual and audio cues rather than tactile that I can feel immediately through my fingers. I'm still probably going to buy this one but hopefully they can come out one with a vibrating hall effect triggers.
I gamesir G7 se it feels trash for aiming I've ordered rainbow 2 and new Gulikit kk3 max controller it new generation hall effect joysticks I hope it'll be good aim unlike trash g7 se joysticks.
Hello have a question, curious can you change the facebutton with stock xbox face button? I'm not really a big fan of the looks of external paint abxy like that so i might change it in the future.
No hall effect on joystick and 4.5% circularity error is kind of deal breaker to me, bcs gamesir t4 cyclone pro can go about 0.7% if I'm not mistaken. Still, can you configure/overclock this circularity error using the app or not?
Cool which is your favorite among the Hall Effect ones: G5 Pro, Vader 3 Pro or this one? Which has the best D-pad you've used by the way (for fighting heavy games like Tekken, Street Fighter and Shenmue 2, Shenmue the father of al open world games, the first open world game and first to use the Hall Effect coz' Dreamcast had that in 1998, 26 years ago!)? God bless.
The dpad on the rainbow is not good go with the machenike g5 or vader 3 pro, both are great but the dpad on the vader 3 should be better especially for fighting games
@@VKsChannel Which do you like more the Vader 3 Pro and G5 Pro when you've set up everything and enjoy more to play with overall not just fighting games (especially on a chill sunday after the Church/worship obligations :-) )? I'd love to try the Apex 2 someday but it's not sold anymore (there's second hand but I'm not sure about the sellers coz' most don't have ratings)
@@VKsChannel Thanks by the way do you think the Sony's DualSense is superior to the Vader 3 Pro overall or DualSense they say has the better motion control for Forza and extreme realistic DCS war simulation which I learned from your fellow RU-vidr Tuuvus (it's in a way realistic version of Battlefield like ARMA which I like, coz' maybe there are few cheats with aim bots there which ruin FPS making me always last X-D & perhaps I plan to create a flight and driving cockpit with the new foldable OLED coming up and surround myself- or someday get dome thing surrounded by monitors which'll help add to real life skill) and driving games (also for sniping assist in FPS) and the DualSense ability to divide the touch into four for quick segregation access too each segregation of the inventory (though how many PC games support that? or even Playstation games?) or Vader 3 Pro is still the winner for things that is has. There is a 'Like New' seller who sells the green Zoro version of One Piece of the Vader 3 Pro and there's a seller of a brand new Vader 3 Pro for almost he same price. If you choose Vader 3 Pro over DualSense, which one if say it's your first time buying a controller and you've tested both, would you buy (no buyer's regret after, if that's ok to ask :-) )? I'd love to try the S-Tier Apex 3 but with Microsoft's looming ban (if PC gaming's not affected then it's fine), coz' it essentially has a small mouse on the face buttons, it might get banned but then Microsoft might not even touch the PC gamers, just the Xbox ones on multiplayer (not when you're playing solo on campaign mode, God willing). Thanks. P.S. I just knew this yesterday, thanks to this long and quite energy draining but needed controller research, I didn't know I was already using Hall Effect technology for years now coz' I have the first controller which used Hall Effect that was made specifically for the game 'Nights into Dream' on SEGA Saturn way back in 1996 (28 years ago!). It's the SEGA 3D Control Pad (it's also the spiritual successor, like the Dreamcast controller of the Xbox controller form factor and analog trigger and buttons layout), it's extremely nice to hold, you'd say "very nice", the Dreamcast controller was the second one to have Hall Effect in history- lots of first for SEGA (including first open world game- Shenmue). The RU-vidr Marius Heier plans to test how well made were SEGA first two Hall Effect switches, I would bet and hope there's no deadzone and will return in the middle at 0,0 coordinates & will be superior to all Hall Effect switches- I hope :-) Thank you for lending me some of you time. God bless us gamers.
Thanks for this and all controller reviews. I request you that could you check and share a review about BEITONG Asura 2 Pro Wireless Controller if it's possible?
I haven't tested lag but i didn't feel any difference The workaround is just to fool the console into thinking it is an original controller so I don't believe it will have lag
That thing's face button module is neat as hell. Could make different button layouts for it like the face buttons on Emio's controller. Needs more space to do it well, though.
Hi, i got the controller one week ago. The right gyro feels vary strange. It is always resetting the position to 0. How can i make it work just like the left gyro ?
The right gyro resets to 0 because it is used to simulate native gyroscopic aiming, and when aiming you want it to go back to 0 or else the aim would be turning left or right forever on the left stick it doesn't reset to 0 because it is generally used to control racing games or flight simulators and in those cases when you turn the controller you don't want the position of the stick to go back to 0
I connect this controller to ps4 wirelessly, but the connection breaks after playing for a short time. I connect it with the adapter that comes in the box. What is the problem please answer...?❤❤
So, it has a PlayStation Mode, that's nice and dandy.. How about connecting it to the PC in PlayStation Mode ? How will it be recognized, as a DualShock 4, a DualSense, OR.. as a DualSense Edge ??? (considering it has the 4 additional inputs, just like the DualSense Edge.. ) Advantage would be the 4 extra buttons on a DualSense Edge can be independently mapped in Steam as EXTRA Keys, not only the default controller buttons.
The playstation mode only works on playstation consoles, if you plug the dongle on PC it will work only in x-input mode, and it won't be recognized at all if you try to pair without the dongle connected
@@VKsChannel So what you're saying is that if you have this controller connected to your PC (via its own dongle of course.. ) in XInput Mode, then Hold Y + Home to switch to PS Mode, the controller will just no longer be detected by the PC ? And you have ACTUALLY tried that.. ?? Because with my Armor-X adapter connected to my XBox Series controller I can Connect it to my PC (via its own included dongle) THEN simply hold X + Home for XInput Mode OR A + Home for Switch Mode and I can use EITHER OR via Steam. Also, when in Switch Pro mode, I have NATIVE Gyro support as well (as in Left Analog X/Y Axes, Right Analog X/Y Axes.. AND the SIX Gyro Axes.. ) It would be very curious to me that they've done away with other modes on the controller itself, while they'd provide such functionality on their adapter only.. adapter that goes with the official XBox Series controller.. But it would not work that way with THEIR OWN controller.. Very weird stuff.
@@Costinmusca Ok I have re-tested it and it does work on PC in plastation mode with the dongle but it will show up as "wireless controller" the thing is you need to re-pair it to the dongle for every different mode, my switch mode was paired to the switch so it wouldn't even connect, the armor x only works paired to the dongle so there's no room for mistakes so the short answer is switch mode paired with the dongle you get a pro controller input xbox mode paired with the dongle you get an xinput playstation mode paired with the dongle you get wireless controller If the modes are paired to something else you get nothing here's a picture of the PlayStation mode inputs without any button pressed imgur.com/lVc6l62
@@VKsChannel Yes, that checks out, the genuine DualShock 4 does show up simply as "Wireless Controller" in Windows under Devices and Printers. Makes sense this controller would show up as such given it only works with the PS4 but not with the PS5. Too bad it doesn't show up as the DS Edge PS5 controller, as those 4 buttons could've been used (and even more comfortably) as the Edge's extra 4 buttons, which can be used as independent inputs, not only as buttons on the actual controller. Maybe this could be changed with a firmware update though, as the hardware is there to build on.. That would be the near perfect 3rd party controller. Thanks for taking the time and confirming this 👍 EDIT: One more VERY IMPORTANT detail though.. just to be sure: When Connected as the Switch Pro controller to the PC, will the Gyro act as Gyro (its own 6 axis 3 translation / 3 rotation axes) or will it emulate the controller's right Analog Stick (X/Y axes) ? And just the same, but in PlayStation Mode on the PC, will the Gyro even work ? And if it does, again same question, will it work as native Gyro axes, or will it emulate the right stick X/Y axes ? I'm mostly asking since the switch game you've demoed the gyro on looked NOTHING LIKE Gyro controls, but more like an emulated analog stick.. OR.. maybe the game is just THAT BAD with its Gyro implementation.. (wouldn't be the first one.. actually, most games in existence have HORRENDOUS gyro implementation/s)
@@Costinmusca on switch mode you can use gyro with steam input and its just like the original pro controller gyro, I haven't tested it on PlayStation mode though but I'm pretty sure it will work too
probably because microsoft blocked unnoficial third party controllers www.pcmag.com/news/microsoft-appears-to-block-unofficial-third-party-accessories-on-xbox
@@VKsChannel Thanks for answering my question. It's too bad, because this could have been a great controller. It's useless compared to Flydigi controllers + reWASD software.
@@Midori_Hoshi I told them about d-input, and they said that in the newest firmware of the app you can map the backbuttons as keyboard keys i.imgur.com/JR9xTcH.jpg
@@VKsChannelI’m confused on what you mean here, are you saying with this controller connected to PC you can now remap buttons to keyboard buttons through the phone app? Just like the big big won rainbow SE?
works on the most platforms it had the fastest polling rate at the time of the review, with trigger stoppers, cool rgb lights and a smartphone app there are better ones now but this was awesome when it was released
