Biggest Disappointments in Every Assassin's Creed Game  

I realise that but it still doesnt make much sense in the story

⁠​⁠@@TheStickz6personally I think it makes sense. To me, I see Ezio as a character that has spent all this time seeking to avenge his father and brothers, killing the templars connected to their untimely deaths. As he travels, grows, matures, learns, he goes from a teenager who is basically like “you killed my family, die” with Uberto Alberti, to not killing Rodrigo at the end of the game because killing them isn’t going to bring his family back. In a sense, it’s kind of like he’s telling Rodrigo that he doesn’t have to kill him or anyone to feel like he’s gotten his revenge and can be at peace. Instead, he will get into the temple and show Rodrigo that he is the true prophet. I mean, should he have killed Rodrigo? Part of me thinks so. But I also like that they decided to not have him kill Rodrigo in the end.

Thing is he killed everyone upto and after that point so its kinda silly.

​@@TheStickz6most people make the same mistake a million times and not everyone learns from the first and second time from them

@de_gamingcat7804 yes but he did learn the lesson. That's why he didn't kill rodrigo. After he just went back to killing everyone and forgot the lesson?

Facts because the story was great. It was nice to see the other side of the war for once

@@jaythevillian3779true

THIS

It wasnt bad, but I stopped playing, because of the overwhelming bugs I get ;D

@@jaythevillian3779Meh, they failed to fully dive into the concept, story was pretty good, but it was essentially a situational role swap, it didn’t highlight anything fundamentally wrong with the creed, which is what you would think the concept would do.

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Don't forget about Adewale leaving,that man was the Jackdaw itself

I think the biggest disappointment was that the story was jumpy. There's time skips, and it got so confusing. Maybe the fact the story is supposed to be taking place over multiple years just muddied it for me. Either that or im low Iq and despite the fact i only played it two months ago ima have to replay it

@@realdapug6718 agreed-It was a bit random wit the timeskips-+I feel it was overused,in black flag especially or just lazy writing to next explain the passage of time

@@realdapug6718 low IQ

Then black flag is most definatrly for you. I prefer being an assassin :)

You are assassin in training in 4

@@shinobimsh5687 edward does not want to be an Assassin until the end though. Unless you mean Mary was secretly training him without his knowledge?

@@TheStickz6 last point exactly, training by luring with money🤑😂

I prefer being an assassin but Black Flag was my second favorite game

Yea thats a bit annoying isnt it

​@@TheStickz6I thought they changed that in the Ezio collection? I'm pretty sure it gave me that option.

I disagree with you, origins was perfect.

You literally can replay missions ffs. Pause game, click DNA menu, choose sequence, replay mission. I feel like this should be common knowledge to anybody who played ac2

@@wambamthankumam you couldnt in the original I believe? May be wrong

Well we knew that going in so I wasn't disappointed by it lol

Nah, that's the biggest disappointment with Valhalla

@@TheStickz6 I was still disappointed even knowing it wouldnt have assassin's lol, may aswell have just called it demi god simulator lmfao

Well if you consider the hidden ones as "assassins" then you got assassins in every game of the rpg trilogy, but I get your meaning

@Professionalcummer odyssey is set before origins so no you do not have hidden ones in odyssey

Shay would beat Arno in a fight though.

@@Rengokuo4o6 would could should, i guess we'll never know. lol

​@@Rengokuo4o6It honestly depends on the scenario or situation. Arno is better in stealth and better with gadgtes. Shay is stronger and maybe even smarter

@@SoloSilence True, everyfight honestly depends on the situation but Shay has OP weapons like his grenade launcher. Arno could get the upper hand if he remained stealthy. But Shay has huntersense and can literally detect his presence with his eagle vision. There is no sneaking up on Shay.

@@Rengokuo4o6 Yes but Shay would be old like in his 60s

Either way the series is focused on assassins (and black samurai). Rogue was probably a single-time experiment with playing as a templar. Either way, he was too professional to be opposed and there would be no challenge for him as a protagonist. Still, he would be a perfect antagonist. Shame it was not brought into reality

Idk, Rogue in concept is cool, the execution was awful. The assassins were basically templars and vice versa. If they wanted to show the bad side of the Creed, they failed miserably. Shay is charismatic enough to make you engaged in his story, but 14 year old me, with not a single critical thought in his mind, basically said "this is Black Flag but bad". The game is soooo boring. It had so much potential

I agree. The reveal of the templars is worth it!

Well he didnt become an assassin until the end so that makes sense

@@TheStickz6 you could become an assassin in BF????????

@randomcourier at the end yes, like I said

You clearly didn’t pay attention to the story.

The complaints about how assassins were handled in Black Flag were always hilarious. Thematic writing requires any earnest story about changing ones mindset or supporting a good cause requires you to portray the cause negatively, lest the commitment to do so is dishonest. If the side is always obviously right, then any decision not to is absurd, and thus, there is no real decision. Earnest conviction in writing can only be shown when someone takes the harder and worse path because it follows their beliefs.

assassins creed 2 really is a timeless masterpiece

Not being able to replay missions

I think there's too much filler honestly. "We have to do this but first free our men now you, Ezio, have to kill the archers on the roof cause me and my sneaky boys can't do it" A lot of the Venice section is like that

Nothing is perfect my friend

@@TheStickz6 nothing is true, everything is permitted; my friend.

@@HassanKorra sure

Exactly

​@@TheStickz6 certainly AC1 wasn't perfect and has valid criticisms but were the repetitive missions a disappointment or just a flaw? The root of disappointment is missed expectations, and as the first AC game I don't think it's fair to put expectations on it

Agreed

As for me, it felt like we actually play as Haytham, and Connor only observes the aftermath. The book adds to this feeling

I would agree if that village section didn't suck ass

Isnt it good to have optional challenges that dont stop other players enjoying the game though?

@@TheStickz6 You're definitely right that it adds another layer of challenge that is totally optional and therefore can be ignored if one doesn't want to do it. I'm just saying that for my personal enjoyment, as one who likes to 100% the games in the series, it just made it REALLY difficult, in my opinion too much so. I still did all of them in AC Brotherhood through Rogue, just gave me so much grief. I still respect that a lot of people like the extra challenge, though

@@jackmull4770 fair enough. I do know there were definitely some silly ones like the one that says dont get hit in that tank mission

@@TheStickz6 dude I got so frustrated with that one. Cannot tell you how many times I restarted the mission just to get full synch

@@jackmull4770I recently got the brotherhood platinum and it was infuriating restarting missions from the beginning because the optional full synch thing doesn’t reset on checkpoints.

Lore wise? Or game wise.? Because lore wise, to be fair, we actually never get to play Edward as an assassin. Because he became one years after returning to England. So it might be called AC black flag, But never officially an assassin in game. "The clothes suit you" is just saying "you have the potential" And not an official ritual.

I highly doubt that but you act as an Assassin 90% of AC2 so thats fine by me

Well stealing an Assassin robe doesn't make you an Assassin. Edward didn't become an Assassin before the after credits scene in opera. And he was in civil clothes there. PS: If you want some Edward's Brotherhood stories check his webtoon, it's really greatç

I agree with most of this. I've dogged on Jacob so much I thought Id give him a break

There is an outfit for one, but the hood is only worn in restricted areas

@@retr0uk313not the Templar version of the hood, only when you’re wearing the assassin outfit not shays new Templar one.

I just modded it, lol

They fixed that in the Ezio collection.

You think I got a team of writers back here?

I agree. I just live for the big wow moments like end of AC2 or revelations

@@TheStickz6I haven’t played ac2 in 14-16 years and still remember the end vividly and many other parts of

​@@Chloethepomsky 14 years?! Treat yourself

One of the drawbacks of making a prequel. You know where the character is supposed to end up and ultimately holds back creativity.

@@ChristopherBrekke I don’t think so with this case basim was supposed to be mysterious but I get what you mean I was gonna compare it to rd2 but like you said we knew basim in red dead 1 there’s no mention of Arthur so we really had zero clue what would happen to him we knew basim would end up in England

I loved mirage. Focused assassin game!

@@TheStickz6 yes it’s focused nature was cool but the combat was repetitive parry with the same window and animations until you get your assassins tools, the animations in and out cute scenes were bad most of the time, the side missions other than the contracts are straight garbage

@chriscolombie4135 I liked the stories of baghdad tbh and the stealth was just so good I dont care that the combat sucks. I should have higher standards but its ubisoft, ill take what I can get lol

@@TheStickz6 stories of Bagdad were alright for me just not enough of them and none of them really hit me , the thieves mission was surprisingly good though, and the stealth was good especially in the end game , I just believe a skill tree wasn’t necessary and that if they added that they would add cool additions or pre existing ones that could work like basim combining flaming sword and the mines to make a fire explosive for crowd control or something, all those abilities could just be incorporated more directly via tutorial or story because there aren’t many abilities to warrant a skill tree like in odyssey and the rest

@chriscolombie4135 I personally hate fire swords etc in AC. Its meant to basically be our world and flaming swords are not a thing lol. I like it to stay grounded within its own rules

Not a lot to pick on in AC2, but it did come back to bite him on the ass

​@TheStickz6 you're not wrong

@@TheStickz6 true, it’s also wild how Cesare ended up killing Rodrigo instead. His own son💀

And yet its still better than valhalla and odyssey

@@TheStickz6 if you say so but I prefer actually being able to like, properly do stealth instead of Makeshift stealth because the mechanics don’t help you lol 😂

@justingabriel1765 which game you talking about? The one where you have to make an Assassin build just to assassinate people or the game where stealth was literally broken for over a year and whose missions take place in environments that are useless for stealth?

@@TheStickz6 I’m not really even talking about a specific AC at all, Assassins Creed Stealth as a whole isn’t necessarily hard unless you try to do very specific things, it’s not like we have Arkham Batman type of predator combat where we can have crazy traps and things set up. I’ve literally never had any issue playing stealth in any of the RPG Games, it’s fairly simplistic. That could also be because I don’t pick the hardest difficulty for them when that’s an option, except for Valhalla I am replaying the game on the hardest difficulty settings and honestly it’s not that hard. Plus I do find it really neat how in that game you can customize your stealth settings, I thought that was really cool. I just mean if I were to play a stealth game I would actually want to have things like a cover button and gadgets and all the things that make stealth fun at my disposal. The Ezio games had the gadgets with the poison Dart and throwing knives and the crossbow but movement made it just feel like you were taking advantage of the shitty enemy AI ya know. And in all of the games they have their fair share of negatives obviously, like you could say the new rpgs have way to EASY if stealth because there is no desync and you don’t have to start over. Idk, Shadows looks interesting with how Yasuke will inherently have a harder time using stealth, and how environments are going to change with the seasons so you could have no bushes at times and all that, that seems like a really cool way of changing that up but I mean ultimately these games are extremely fun yeah but it’s a little ironic to say ones better then the other when they all have had some pretty annoying things in them

pretty sure the creed originated in egypt though, wasn't that explained in origins and in one of odyssey's DLCs?

Darius (or Artabanus choose your pick) laid the foundation for Assassins as seen through his flashbacks. The whole Egypt thing is also true in the sense that it realized the concept of an explicit organization aimed towards preserving freedom. Also, Elpidios, Darius' grandson through Kassandra is the founder of the Hidden Ones. CMIIW

The second Desmond died is when the writers kind of gave up on any real story for the present day stuff. Also the build up for Desmond was for nothing as everyone figure we would eventually control him and take on the templars in his timeline.

Yea that is annoying

Then you're convinced of something incorrect

i agree. the point of black flag is to show how edward starts off as a selfish pirate who used to cause harm and steal without reason and eventually grows into the master assasin he was destined to be

@sandstinger3454 you're right but you'd be convinced of something incorrect

@@TheStickz6 i will respect your opinion though. to each their own ✌️

@@TheStickz6Pro tip. Don’t tell people who love a story that they’re incorrect about it without explaining. It makes you look like an arrogant asshole. I agree with the comment here. The story was great. Yes it took him almost the entire game to become an assassin but that’s because this is more of an origin story for Edward and delves into how Edward thinks he’s a pirate but is an assassin at heart. But because of his delusions about who he is as well as his stubbornness and greed, his path had to make him loose everything so he can be forced to realize his flaws and grow beyond the pirate man he tried to be, ultimately accepting the philosophy of the Assassins, joining their cause and letting himself be the man he was always capable of. If you want a good breakdown of the story so *you* can understand it better, go watch Lazzerz video on Black Flag. Maybe then you’ll convince yourself of what’s actually true. Ironic considering we’re talking about Edward, a man who convinced himself he’s something that’s not true lol.

I think there was a bigger part planned but looks like it got scrapped. People found things in the files

Small creator. I like it, well mostly. Its good for the channel.

Its an animus glitch

Wait what did you think the giant crowds on the streets were?

@@TheStickz6 just regular unhappy peasants lmao. I was like 15 & skipped or ignored every talking scene I could

@@tendopain2585 ahh I see lol

I hope too

At this point they REALLY need to the plot is all over the place. The big bad in the modern time line for AC 3&4 was killed off in a comic... I had no idea...

@@Gentlemenpickleesq. yea absolute joke

They essentially did overhaul it starting in Origins. Returning to form is what people would prefer but probably won’t get.

I thought it was trying to be the witcher 3

It failed to be neither

​@@TheStickz6 Origins was trying to be Witcher 3 I played Origins but didn't play Witcher 3 tho

"Game is greek so it's God of War" c'mon...

Fair enough. Just means you prefer action rpgs to stealth games :)

@@TheStickz6 I don't mind stealth games, so long as they don't make stealth compulsory or my survival dependent on it. Just let me be a berserker when I want to let off steam after work. 😅

For me the story just didnt do anything exciting. I got more excited seeing hytham than any part of the story. And I didnt notice basim feeling cumbersome at all but thats okay if you did. ;)

Basim did feel turtle-ish like before the update

So you're convinced I didn't play the game because side content has lots of revolution stuff in it? I think you need to reassess how you view evidence and come to likely conclusions then.

@@TheStickz6 by play the game i mean actually playing it not just the story if you want i can name off every singular co-op mission, Heist and paris story relating to the revolution it would take me a good hour or two. Claiming that there is little revolutionary content in AC Unity is like saying there isn't Spartan or Greek culture in Oddessy It's just not a valid claim or take. I love Ezio's games best games in the franchise but there is less content from the Italian Renaissance in AC2 then content from the French Revolution in Unity this makes me think at the very least you didn't play all the Coop missions or bother to read the codex entries or you just didn't realize what was real history and what wasn't. Unity is probably one of the more historical AC games just with the codex location entries alone.

@@TheStickz6 Side content is also a BIG part of Unity as its story isnt that long. Side content is a big part of any AC game but more so Unity as the coop which is side content is the only factor that separates gameplay from other AC games other than the great parkour

@@TheStickz6 all of those factors combined with you saying effectively that you didn't see a lot French Revolutionary content makes me think that you either didn't play the game or didn't play enough of it to actually see the content either that or you just ignored the way the game told those stories and pieces of history to you which if thats the case is ENTIRELY your fault

Yeah, but there’s practically no benefits to stealth in Valhalla as it ends up being faster to just rush in and attack. And the assassination part of stealth is absolutely terrible

Doing good or it being easy doesn't mean its good. Its so bare bones, no depth whatsoever. Detection system also sucks and was broken for over a year after release

@@Sebastian-nu5ey but that’s the problem you’re not patient which is like the main purpose of doing stealth. Take a real world combat situation. A sniper will take days to study the area where their target is at before taking the shot in order to learn patterns. Then takes the shot and leaves undetected.

Fair enough. I disagree with Mirage being too short. I have no problem with shorter games, especially focused ones like mirage

@@TheStickz6 I don't think Mirage is way too short but I wanted more side content in the game. There's not much to do after completing the game and doing either New Game+ or the challenge mode.

@ac_nerd9794 I dont think a game needs to offer more after you finish it though. This is a new gaming obsession everyone seems to have. You played the game, thats the experience, you dont need more. This endless need for more is how we ended up with live service garbage

@@TheStickz6 That's not what I wanted. I just wanted more stuff to do in the game. There is plenty of side content in the older games, traditional and RPG alike, with some fun quests. There could have been maybe some Tales of Baghdad like the Tales of Greece in Odyssey. Just a little bit more to flesh out Basim and his new thought process. Or just a few sidequests in between each assassination that showcase Basim's character like Bayek had in Origins. Something that adds to his character. Not another hundred quests or objectives, just a little something.

Definitely agree with the dialogue options one. AC stories should be set in stone imo, not dependent on user input. After all, it needs to be canon for the overall lore. I guess Valhalla might have been too long but I actually didn’t mind it. I liked Valhalla a lot, so if there is more time to spend in a game I enjoy I’ll gladly take it. I can see the game wasn’t for everyone though. As for Unity and Syndicate the story was definitely both game’s greatest issue. Syndicate still had an interesting overall story but it felt like none of the sequences really complemented with each other. It more felt like a “okay now for this sequence, this happens” sort of thingy with a lot of loose ties. It was still interesting though, and Jacob and Evie are at least memorable characters with enough personality. Arno’s personality was fine, at least I can see what they were going for, in the beginning he was a bit cocky, in the end he was just heartbroken, so I guess the character development is definitely there, but overall he didn’t really get his moments. I remember some really great missions, but not really anything awesome about Arno. He didn’t get anything close to “Sleep? I never sleep, I just wait. In the shadows. And I’ll kill you all, everyone who sniffed air that day in Siwa!” or one of the many quotes of wisdom from Ezio or Altaïr, Arno was just… existing, kind of. And that is carrying over to the overall story as well. That combined with the lack of influence from the French revolution in the story, AND the fact that absolutely nothing really happened other than Arno killing person after person with the only real exception being Bellec (and the beginning and the ending) makes Unity a real waste story wise for sure. Not Rogue though. I agree that it was a bit weird how they presented the Templars and Assassins, It basically felt like they switched sides, but the overall story was really carried by the characters if you ask me. All of AC2-Rogue had well established characters that were really important throughout the story, and I guess that is definitely one of the many reasons why they are so loved. Rogue felt no different to me in that regard, and I agree with the content creator that it was too awesome to be such a small game. It needed to be longer. It’s one thing that I wish they kept. Well established side characters that are relevant throughout the game. Valhalla got Darby McDevitt back and it shows, because it did exactly this. Sure, there were many non-relevant characters in the game, but also a *lot* of well established ones that mattered not just once, but throughout the story. I agree with you on Origins, it’s really hard to find any flaws here to be honest. I guess it didn’t have that many well established characters but it wasn’t a real issue in this game because they made the overall story work really well in other ways. Mirage in my opinion did exactly what I wanted it to do, but I do agree with you it could’ve used more side content. I did also feel a lack of linearity in the story, it suffered basically in the same way as Syndicate, with loose ties. The 3 main arcs that could’ve been done in any order had no ties whatsoever and I feel like that’s probably the biggest flaw. Bordeaux did almost perfect for their first game but if they do make another I hope they get rid of the investigation system and make a fully linear story again.

Ezio becomes an assassin at the end of AC2, aka sequence 11/12 base game or 11/14 when counting the dlc. Imo the only flaw of Black Flag is having a tad too much tailing missions.

Sure but the point is, you are an assassin

Personally disagree, but I love being an Assassin so much more than a pirate. Also he was treacherous assassin so his mind was clearly weak anyways.

@@Blazeraw110 the point is, you aren't, you are a pirate and got woven into it, because of messing with templars, so you basically turn into an assassin at the end of the game, just like you spent the first, like 5 hours of AC2 as just Ezio, not as a master assassin :}

Enjoy :)

I actually just bought it 2 days ago and playing it for the first time on my pc. I'm enjoying it alot so far

@@RicoVegito fool i downloded it PIRATED just to be lore accurate

I’m WAY ahead of you on that fam

Does that mean syndicate wasn't spongey?

​@@TheStickz6 not even remotely close to being spongey. I never got that criticism towards the game. Maybe consider using and upgrading melee weapons appropriate to enemy's level?

@@cvxgaming6855 lol literally everyone thinks the combat is like that

​@@TheStickz6the only reason people say it's spongy is because it comes right after Unity where you can kill an enemy in 2-3 hits. Without skill points and appropriate leveled weapons the enemy takes time/lots of hit to kill but with proper equipment the combat is fast and you kill enemies left and right quickly. The RPG games are spongy and it's not even close.

This is a strange comment...?

Fr lol 😂​@@TheStickz6

So you are basically implying why Valhalla shouldn't be an assassin's creed game and your points justified it lol

No, origins is great. Mirage is great. Valhalla has some redeeming qualities

It immediately changes something though. His son with his army and power attack the villa. Ive had this conversation so many times in this comment section so I apologise if I dont reply.

Assassins creed 2 and brotherhood are the best but yeah rogue and black flag are both INCREDIBLE

@@liamhood4981 Ac 2 for the story Ac 4 for the gameplay

I dont like sailing or ship combat so I dont like black flag as much as other people. And Rogue was written by a 5 year old so I dont care much for it at all.

Black flag was top tier, I'm replaying it now

There basically was no stealth and it was completely bugged for over a year

@@TheStickz6 Was it? I played it when it came out, and I thought it was amazing lol Well, to each his own, I guess

@@TheStickz6well I enjoyed it but to be fair I didn’t play it until after mirage came out. It was not amazing but a lot better than odyssey.

@@ItsLofty101 Ledge assassinations usually alerted who I was trying to pull down.

They aren't assassin games

I don't. Combat is always a last resort for me. I prefer stealth and story is much more important to me than combat. Im not disagreeing though the combat is terrible

I am not a fan of microtransactions, but you really dont have to interact or see any of that stuff, so it wouldn't ruin a game for me

Was a bit yea

Yes

It feels like spin off

Think thats fairly accurate. I dont like sailing so not my fav game

I didn't say it wasn't part of the game. I just said its shit lol

Is it?

Can still make districts look different in revelations. Rodrigo could have escaped somehow. AC is not supposed to be historically accurate, thats kinda the point

It was because he realised revenge wasn't worth it. Wouldn't bring his family back. But there were plenty of other reasons to kill him. I wish he had just escaped somehow

I dont want him to join earlier I just wish there was a few hours at the end as an Assassin. I am nuts for the brotherhood and the creed etc