Assassin's Creed Climbing Parkour is Evolving, Just Backwards

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Assassin's Creed Climbing System is Evolving, Just Backwards
The old Assassin's Creed climbing system is better than the new one -
People complain that the old system takes too long to climb buildings, but that is just what I like about it. The new version you can just climb up any wall incredibly fast and jump to a ledge that is over 10 feet above the character. This is increasingly unrealistic like Uncharted and simply not fun.
I like the old system because you can't just climb up in a straight line. You have to go around the tower to a part that has a window you can climb up. Doing this is like a small maze finding the right path to get to the top of the tower, building, church or whatever you are climbing. I enjoy rock climbing in real life and it is just like this, you can't just go up in a straight line, you have to find a path with places to put your hands and feet.
When I see old churches or castles I like to make a plan in my head of how I would climb it. Is there a ledge, crack, or sculpture in the rock that I could use to climb. It's a maze going up the side of a building and the new AC games have lost this. Climbing is no longer fun for me because it is so unrealistic since no one can make the jumps in the new system. Say what you will about the graphics in AC 1 - Revelations they had very realistic climbing mechanics.
In This video I am Showing You Assassin's Creed Climbing System is Evolving, Just Backwards in games like-
Assassin's Creed (2007)
Assassin's Creed II (2009)
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (2010)
Assassin's Creed: Revelations (2011)
Assassin's Creed III (2012)
Assassin's Creed III - Liberation (2012)
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag (2013)
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag - Freedom Cry (2013)
Assassin's Creed Rogue (2014)
Assassin's Creed Unity (2014)
Assassin's Creed Syndicate (2015)
Assassin's Creed Origins (2017)
Assassin's Creed Odyssey (2018)
Assassin's Creed Valhalla (2020)
Assassin's Creed Mirage (2023)
This Video Also Showcases the Graphics Evolution in Every Assassin's Creed Games in Series till now... EVOLUTION OF GRAPHICS IN AC Games
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@LelloDalamiq Месяц назад

Altair, Ezio, and Arno: Actual climbing The Kenways: Sticky fingers The Fryes and Basim: Evolved gorillas Bayek, The Spartan Siblings and Eivor: SPIDER MAN, SPIDER MAN, DOES WHATEVER A SPIDER CAN

@therealajzaini Месяц назад

😂

@florians9949 28 дней назад

For the last ones this is exactly ehat I was playing in my head. It’s so dumb almost to the point of being genious.😂

@zer0_effort 18 дней назад

You do realize that syndicates climbing is the exact same as unity's right its just more responsive and slightly faster how are u going to praise arno and then bash the frye twins for climbing the same way but better?

@erickmendonca6349 18 дней назад

@@zer0_effort its not better is just more fast, these comparsions its about details, Arno feels fluid and realistic the twins just jump non stop to be more fast paced, for a game that the parkour was THE THING these details makes diferences

@zer0_effort 18 дней назад

@@erickmendonca6349 arno has the same animations but slower and clunkier

@Hasieve Месяц назад

Older AC climbing is like a puzzle. You have to figure out where to climb. Unlike newest AC games, the characters just climb straight up and it is boring.

@Godspeed5384 Месяц назад

Nothing more boring than climbing a synchronize tower in 5 mins when you can now do it in 1

@GamerDisturbed Месяц назад

@@Godspeed5384 well you are wrong, because that mean you had 5 minutes of havin fun while climbing in the prevoous games. Now the fun part of climbing is almost non existent, like you said, since you seem to view it now like a chore, even if it is only for 1 minute. You already want to get over with it from the get ko. At that point why not just close the game and find something more exciting to do that fits your need for speed standards? Like play spiderman for example.

@generaldasbananas Месяц назад

@@GamerDisturbed That's the point, who has fun looking for a way to climb a tower for 5 minutes straight in an action game?

@suwamekyu Месяц назад

Maybe AC games is not for you anymore, you need to go find another climbing simulator

@disasterpiece7583 Месяц назад

@@generaldasbananas me... parkour is a very big aspect of AC games (good ones at least). This is like saying i don't want to be stealthy when i can just bumrush and kill everyone in combat.

@LiamRoasts2465 Месяц назад

Edward can climb on broken window glass without a scratch, well just like he told bonnet, "every finger is a fish hook, that how u tell a true sailor"

@lucasgrey9794 Месяц назад

Edwards callouses must be like linoleum.

@TheOverlord99 Месяц назад

haha I literally thought of this line when he mentioned the glass

@amokriinprolgiid3409 Месяц назад

Older assassins creed games, there was always just one building in the game that was WAY taller than all the other buildings, and it was always tricky to climb because it was a bit of a puzzle. And once you actually climbed it, there was usually some kind of reward, like a collectible, an achievement for eagle diving off of it, or something. New assassin's creed games just don't have that same feeling of accomplishment. I get that they wanted to give players the power to go wherever they wanted, but in their quest for that goal, they sacrificed part of what made it satisfying.

@JustKrona 21 день назад

In AC2 (my first game), I'd climb a tall building just to see if I could. Finally getting there FELT good, because it just wasn't straightforward. I still remember coming back to a building I couldn't climb no matter what, after unlocking the long jump upwards, and being so happy because I finally did it. Newer games, though? There's no point. Climbing is just as easy as walking in a straight line. I know I can get up there before even trying, so why waste my time?

@richardtrager7125 13 дней назад

Exactly, like if you want to climb the Cathedral of Santa Maria in Florence, you have to climb the tower next to it first (which is also a small puzzle) and then jump over to the roof of the cathedral and find a route to climb to the very top of the dome. AC games nowadays you just hold the climb button and you can climb anything.

@waylonk2453 9 дней назад

Well said. I think the climbing puzzle is one aspect of the game that's had less emphasis over time.

@UkashaKhanGamin13 Месяц назад

AC 1 has most realistic climbing in entire series and I love it..

@mokkalada Месяц назад

true but it's so slow in ac 1

@animetite5713 Месяц назад

@@mokkalada thats more realistic than faster gameplay

@simaopinto8521 Месяц назад

It's slow af and for individuals with powers and unrelenting stamina, he should be Faster. Also It's a game and realism should be looked Over at times

@memphispiper2823 Месяц назад

@@simaopinto8521 No. I want realistic climbing where I have look around and create paths. No more games with afk mechanics.

@Corey_Tenderson Месяц назад

Sure, but realism isn’t always everything. The parkour in 1 was slow and often times frustrating. This is a game about Assassins stopping another secret order from controlling the world throughout history. We can afford to be less realistic with the gameplay.

@Realshadow77 Месяц назад

Back in the day when they got rid of the crossbow in AC1 because it didn't fit the time period and invented a new Assassin gizmo when they wanted Ezio to be able to climb even faster, despite his advanced age. There was a tasteful blend between realism and sci-fi in the earlier games that's just missing nowadays.

@doragonsureia7288 27 дней назад

But crossbows were invented a hundred years before AC1 takes place. But i guess it was used almost only in europe...

@Mikazuchireborn 27 дней назад

@doragonsureia7288 definitely true. Crossbows have been around longer than Jesus, though mostly in Asia. With the location of the 1st game and the resources of the Assassin Order, it seems plausible that Altair could've gotten his hands on one.

@thatgothcat 24 дня назад

Crossbows were too OP in AC1. That’s why they removed it. Not because of historical inaccuracy

@pasindudinusha6507 15 дней назад

Because according to some modern-day people, it's okay to break the lore/mechanics within a fantasy/sci fi setting because it is not realistic anyway.

@multiversetraveller3118 15 дней назад

@@doragonsureia7288 They were invented much before that though in China. It was used to a limited extent in other parts of Asia too.

@lornemacarthur4304 Месяц назад

Origins technically doesn’t let you climb everything, there does need to be some tiny semblance of a handhold, even if it’s just a vertical line in the design of the building. Odyssey was the first game to truly let you climb anything regardless of visible handholds

@joelrobinson5457 Месяц назад

Odessy honestly just felt like ubi throwing everything at a wall and hoping we'd like it

@dimitrirascalov5248 Месяц назад

You can't climb everything in Odyssey either. For example city wall and obviously trees

@NinjaPieceLOL Месяц назад

One time in Odyssey, I was climbing a smooth metal statue. I didn't see any handholds, but I was climbing it like I was Spider-Man. The devs weren't even trying with that one.

@aadityaadhanraj5834 Месяц назад

@@NinjaPieceLOL bro is demigod ;)

@beckyweiss6072 Месяц назад

I do give Origins some leeway due to the nature of ancient Egyptian architecture. The devs probably didn’t want the ledges for Bayek to grip onto to be really obvious. I *do* however, find it irritating that I can climb the rock face in Siwa in nearly a straight line up to the top, if you start from nearby the temple. That was absurd. At least AC3 you had to think when Connor was climbing rock faces out in nature.

@Muzzle1300 Месяц назад

There was such a feeling of accomplishment climbing something huge in older assassins creed they were detailed with how you traverse them and were a bit of a puzzle to figure out and then super fun to jump off to the bottom

@vedadtah Месяц назад

They should bring back hook blade to make it look less ridicilous instead of jumping up 10ft while climbing.

@dustinbragg1921 Месяц назад

The hookblade also made it look more realistic. The hook could feasibly jam into a crack a human finger couldn't fit into or punch into a soft enough wall even if there were no cracks.

@5persondude Месяц назад

AC1’s slow climbing speed forces you to think more “strategically” (for lack of a better word) about where you choose to climb. Sure, you could just scale a building vertically, and 9 times out of 10 you’d have enough windows and wooden stakes to make it up, or you could take a second to look around for a ladder or boxes/wagons to keep your momentum going. This is especially important during chases, where guards will chuck rocks at you and knock you down if you’re climbing within their view for too long.

@imjustlikedenji5954 Месяц назад

True, if you pay attention, you'd see the entire city is comprised of small parkour mini-levels There are often times i would just parkour to keep the flow going and end up on another part of the isle lol

@FSMusicLTD 28 дней назад

You look at real parkour experts and they're not going to scale something fast just by climbing it they use their surroundings to make the decent faster

@thatgothcat 24 дня назад

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

@ColasTeam 13 дней назад

The first game also heavily encouraged parkour be done when necessary only. Since the guards would be unto you if you went around platforming all the time in the city.

@ViPER5RT10 10 дней назад

@@ColasTeammakes sense because in these time periods they’d probably think your doing witchcraft or some shit

@lemonZzzzs Месяц назад

still too slow. should just teleport to the roof.

@rafalm5000 6 дней назад

Likely to happen in the next one

@Keyw 6 дней назад

@@rafalm5000 could actually see that happening with smoke bombs or a grappling hook lol

@jeffersonalmazan5782 2 дня назад

Well you have a grappling hook in syndicate

@ED-yy4te Месяц назад

It's not evolving backwards. It's returning to monke

@theambergryphon4266 Месяц назад

😂LOL

@Luis-gz3oo Месяц назад

So... Like evolving... But backwards?

@theviniso Месяц назад

@@Luis-gz3oo There's no such thing as backwards evolution

@Luis-gz3oo Месяц назад

@@theviniso oh no fucking waayyyy, really???? Haven't noticed at all!!!

@Crossfirev 16 дней назад

@@theviniso you evolved backwards during this comment 😭

@MrAllen-cc6jh Месяц назад

I actually liked the more grounded parkour in the older games even though Unity has the most fluid animations. Odyssey is the worst in my opinion because it feels janky and inconsistent: sometimes it plays like the older games where you actually need specific architectural details to climb, and other times you can't climb what may as well be a ladder. Valhalla seems like an overcorrection to the point you can climb basically anything and any surface as long as it's not a pointy log or icicle, while this is something Mirage actually addressed pretty well.

@williamvalorious4403 Месяц назад

personally I kinda liked ac3 sort of climbing...but I have never tried unity which seemed like the best mix, more or less the leaping/fast technique likely trained up and developed as a means to help improve newer Assassins over time, due to likely issues with not being able have many hook blades possible, and or favoring the dual hidden blades in terms of offense. which....seemed less likely the class past say connor's era

@pieprincess5778 Месяц назад

@@williamvalorious4403 unity's my favorite, it has a little leap jumping but you climb stuff to and the parkour while you're like running on rooftops and not ascending or descending, is really smooth and realistic

@Haad-Shaheer Месяц назад

Leap jumping while rock climbing is actually real. It is known as "Dyno" in rock climbing. Today's longstanding official world-record dyno is 2.85 meters (9 feet, 4 inches), set by Denver climber Skyler Weekes (height: 6-foot-5; ape index: +6 inches) on July 3, 2010, at the Cliffhanger Games/World Cup event in Sheffield.

@goofyahhgooberprod Месяц назад

Considering almost all the mainline Assassins have high-concentration Isu DNA, they might have greater athletic abilities and repeated10-foot dynos might be possible; especially for Bayek when the gene pool would have more Isu DNA. Furthermore, Kassandra is a literal demigod, she might as well jump up onto the roof of any building in one go.

@NBDFRMNWR Месяц назад

@@goofyahhgooberprod exactly!

@adamibnal-alam8917 Месяц назад

@@goofyahhgooberprod people need to stop using random lore plotpoints to justify lazy game design decisions also Ptolemeic Egypt isn't closer to anything, a thousand years is nothing in term of genetic cesspool; it's like saying your soup which as been getting cold for 4 hours was clearly more hot a minute ago... also Dynos cannot be chained like that as they require an enormous amount of strenght and energy to pull out - that's why they were manually doable throughout the Ezio trilogy and felt great when successfull because they emulated that combinaison of strenght and timing

@goofyahhgooberprod Месяц назад

@@adamibnal-alam8917 I'm sorry, I didn't necessarily mean to justify the game design in its entirety; I just want it to be maintained that they _have_ Isu DNA, to keep it in mind for traceurs that the moves in AC are gonna be a bit exaggerated in terms of stamina and power and that its not something to look up to when starting out; it's like if someone who just started illustration wanted to be just like Stan Lee, or if a beginner film student wanted to be just like Quentin Tarantino(I apologize for these examples, they're off the top of my head and those are subjectively skill-based fields. I would have gotten better ones but the notification tab closes on YT if I go to another tab). About the Egypt thing, I don't know a ton about genetics, but I think it depends on the original concentration of Isu DNA in Adam and Eve, how Bayek's lineage looks, and just how potent Isu DNA actually is. From what I've heard, at the minimum nearly every human being in the ACU can eventually unlock eagle vision, though most don't and some learn it faster or with high concentration are born with it. I'm also pretty sure Bayek is unrelated to any of the other mainline characters, so his specific lineage could just be of higher concentration. I don't like that they retconned the ability to see through an eagle's eyes with eagle vision, since that was never a thing before Origins yet they made it in a comic that apparently Connor could do that(even though we never got to do that in AC3 lol). About Dynos, I haven't been able to find many videos of what the Dynos in AC look like; most of the videos are talking more generally about dynos in climbing, which can be very short and are only classified by a specific loss of contact(??not 100% sure what qualifies as a dyno, but none of what i found looked like the massive vertical leaps in AC. I would like to eventually test it myself but I don't have a good spot at the moment).

@efrenarevalo2025 Месяц назад

Ubisoft: YEAH...that's the inspiration for the uhm, change. Yup that's it, thanks.

@Carlisho Месяц назад

The beauty of AC1 was mastering the side eject mechanic

@Zerashadow 17 дней назад

"And not jumping straight backwards to your death" you mean? :P

@KIRA-ic3uo 16 дней назад

Every game older than Unity has side ejects.

@soloxcan 8 дней назад

You mean not accidentally jumping to the side and dying?

@nevekserrot63 Месяц назад

I'm Brazilian and I'm using Google translate because I wanted to say that your videos are very good and are reaching a huge audience and I never gave up man, keep going, you can do it, I was thinking

@mentorAKG29 Месяц назад

Thank you! 😃

@generaldasbananas Месяц назад

Suddenly caralho um brasileiro

@frreal Месяц назад

a porra de um br outta nowhere

@paulinsupimpa8586 Месяц назад

Faaaala meus manos

@nevekserrot63 Месяц назад

@@frreal calma aii paizão ele nem encostou nela

@haydenhenderson5512 Месяц назад

They should model their climbing like speed rock climbers, crazy fast but not just leaping around, more realistic but still the fantasy of being a physically elite assassin

@Lovely_Labrynth 14 дней назад

I think the reason why Connor is slower is because of his huge physique. Also I just like how we don't have much control on his parkour since it seems like he is much too stubborn to climb calmly like previous assassins did. So he just brute force his way up rather than sticking to his skills with patience.

@bigguy6748 Месяц назад

Ac 1 is the most believable but unity has the most fluid animations

@soloDev955 Месяц назад

I remember times when unity was "the new one", now it's one of the best. I think the same will apply to others assassins

@jedigamer9935 Месяц назад

At least climbing went back to the roots for Mirage. Though he has to climb normally otherwise people will call him an infidel.

@LuvK24 Месяц назад

I have not played AC2 but damn that looked the most realistic in any game I have ever seen

@derrickstorm6976 Месяц назад

Shame the game was otherwise really boring

@extremehyperventilation4377 Месяц назад

Love the reference!!

@Culebrunch Месяц назад

I still hold that Unity has the best, most fun, and coolest parkour system of the entire series. There's so many animations and movements you can do and have fun with if you do more than just simply hold the parkour up button

@YCNKAOS Месяц назад

I hardly ever climb like this in the earlier games up to Brotherhood, save for on viewpoints where that is the point. There are so many opportunities for free-run sequences to reach the rooftops and wall ejects to replace the often very slow movement of clambering onto the top of a beam, ledge or building. This makes things much less boring. A lot of Connor's, Edward's and Arno's newer animations like sliding and vaulting are welcome additions but the lack of control in every other aspect took away a lot of the fun. And the leap jump is like watching paint dry. My advice for Ubisoft is to remove that, and bring back free-run sequences and everything demonstrated in the first virtual training in Brotherhood.

@Reaperfighter04 Месяц назад

Unity if you learn how to use the parlour mechanic and not just hold down rt and a to free run it is insanely realistic and has more control then any other AC game, the problem is most players won't see that and say oh it is just another leap jumper when doing that is the worst way to scale buildings, I compare Unity to AC1 and AC2 where the parlour is a puzzle and you have alot of control and options.

@YCNKAOS Месяц назад

Unity's parkour isn't bad and there is definitely more to it than the leap jump, but I still find it fiddly and don't understand the logic at times, compared to the original Anvil system where even if I make a mistake I know what I did wrong. But I have replayed the early games the most so perhaps shouldn't be surprised that I feel the most comfortable with that system.

@octavianmihu7861 Месяц назад

@@Reaperfighter04 Unity's parkour is definitely flashy, but the amount of control you have over Arno is much diminished over when you can do in Ac1-Rev, that being the ability to cancel climbing animations into side/back ejects and being able to catch ledge omnidirectionally

@soldier1stclass987 Месяц назад

when i play origin, i notice bayek move to a part where the walls has a texture that can be use as a climbing point

@Metallian81 Месяц назад

Yeah, particularly climbing a pyramid where Bayek can't just climb anywhere. Even then it's not tediously slow like the early games. Besides, with all the other ridiculous sci-fi aspects of the series, climbing realism isn't needed.

@sladewilson890 Месяц назад

Crying about nonsense, you're the worst kind of gamer always finding something to whine about

@soldier1stclass987 Месяц назад

@@Metallian81 i find it helpful, it give you more escape chance and give quicker way to finish mission

@Zerashadow 17 дней назад

same with Odyssey and Valhalla, characters do use some kind of handholds, but sometimes it's just a slight crack or a bit of Ivy, and the devs put them everywhere (like that pillar in video, character is using the gap between each section of pillar)

@kylespevak6781 Месяц назад

Did parkour for over a decade. I completely agree with your take. Problem is people want a faster game feel, not a parkour sim. A parkour sim would go hard though

@ahmadabdelmawla5405 Месяц назад

Everything from origin to now looks broken to me. They can climb anything anywhere like monkeys

@lukethelegend9705 Месяц назад

Mirage

@FSMusicLTD 28 дней назад

@@lukethelegend9705 Mirage felt a lot closer to AC1 not perfect but it felt more grounded and more in your control

@Zerashadow 17 дней назад

I think it was more the devs putting climbable surfaces everywhere, Eivor do use handholds and stuff, even if it's just some Ivy or the slightest crack.

@stonedbeanstv Месяц назад

I'm a fan of AC since the first game and I can remember they said, they made the climbing easier in Origins, because they wanted everyone to have fun and climb where they want. I like the system in Mirage the most and it is also my favorite out of the newer AC games.

@Jrakula10 14 дней назад

a climbing puzzle is good when the puzzle is different. but when the dev copy and pastes the same borgia tower across the map its hard to enjoy "solving" the puzzle.

@diegosmaxi Месяц назад

Leap jump killed climbing in Assassin's Creed. When I played Assassin's Creed 1 for the first time, it blew my mind to see how realestict it looked climbing. Seeing how the character was stretching his arm to reach something to grab and climb was something incredible, something "truly next gen" as the box says. Now it's like, "bro, wtf?" "How is that even possible" "Is he spiderman or a monkey?" "How does he can climb if he's not grabbing anything?"

@LeHarmacist 18 дней назад

Sometimes realism can be forgone if it isn’t as fun, but there are limits to how one can suspend their disbelief. Also AC4 kinda makes sense to me since Edward was a Privateer turned Pirate so he should be able to climb quite easily since it’s needed in that line of work.

@Zerashadow 17 дней назад

Loved AC1, but my god was it repetative, AC2 was way better, and as a RPG player i kinda enjoy where we have been going lately, but i could do with less ISU inspired skills, never played Mirage, but saw Basim teleport around chain killing, just looked unimmersive.

@nevekserrot63 Месяц назад

I was thinking these days that no single person is greater than our capacity, you know, I just wanted to say that and thank you for this entertainment, thank you

@mentorAKG29 Месяц назад

❤️😍

@Erispedia Месяц назад

Syndicate: “Climbing is wasting time”

@KPunkZ Месяц назад

leap jumping on game with the big ben and massive cliffs and structure probably is fine, I would like to see you climb the big ben using Altair's climbing mechanics.

@DarnHyena Месяц назад

To be fair, Bayak is still grabbing at ledges between those stone slabs and pillar segments. Same in Valhalla, the character is still visibly grabbing at ledges in the footage you showed. But mechanically they did simplify and broaden what counts as a valid ledge throughout the games.

@slyx3455 Месяц назад

I’ve no problem with it not being the most realistic climbing mechanics. That slow ass climb can be frustrating, at the end of the day it’s. A game and designed to be fun. I live realistically every day. 😏

@KRIMZONMEKANISM Месяц назад

I am so saddened by the direction they went with Syndicate's parkour after arriving to such a nice (if underdeveloped) concept in Unity. All it needed was further refinement. More control, and added complexity so that players were dependant on both their skill and timing to decide where to go next. Instead, they got cold feet and streamlined the parkour further. Imagine how much better it would be if AC Unity and Syndicate's parkour allowed you three different states of parkour (going up, going down, and maintaining altitude), while also allowing us to decide how to interact with beams. Targeting them so we could decided whether we wanted jump off them, or grab them, or even grab and reverse direction from them.

@marcstarvaggi 23 дня назад

People complain about these changes but you can find videos of real human beings climbing buildings like the later games with the leap-jump and it doesn't look possible. I'd like to think the characters we play as are particularly good climbers and are athletic (or in some cases, canonically demigods), not just ordinary human beings with strong forearms. The later climbing also matches the playstyle of the later games. The wirlds are larger and you need to be able to traverse them faster with increased freedom

@Horzinicla 9 дней назад

Really nice video. Very much work put into it, obviously. With a show of love for the AC series

@dantereinhardt6911 Месяц назад

Honestly, I personally like faster and more dynamic climbing even if it's unrealistic.

@RodMateu Месяц назад

I never liked the climbing in AC1. Not only because it was slow, but mainly because how AC1 was heavily advertised on its "freedom of movement" and then most buildings and towers have this one linear path you are forced into finding to climb.

@martinmcneal2778 Месяц назад

I like how they all have different climbing speeds and methods. It made each assassin feel distinct

@flxdrv5020 Месяц назад

That's a nice video concept man

@yunomaplecakes8338 Месяц назад

Is there a graphics mod on the older games or do they really look this good for this day and age?

@Nightxx9199 Месяц назад

Black flag and 1 Yes. 3 isn't very consistent with its graphics quality. And unity is peak even though it's nearly 10 years old now.

@fiercedeity9955 Месяц назад

@@Nightxx9199 The cloth in Unity looks so good

@fenison4430 Месяц назад

I'm not sure why this video bothers covering the climbing when the parkour is the most fun part of the movement, like yeah i will also argue AC1 has better climbing than the modern games, but not because climbing itself is fun in AC1, actually the opposite in fact, the climbing in AC1 is slow and annoying, "forcing" the player to use their parkour options, such as wallrunning, ejects, vaults, etc., the slow climbing is your punishment for not engaging with the parkour system, improving the system as a whole since there's a reason to do all those fancy moves outside of them just being "kinda cool to do i guess".

@enzoamore8971 Месяц назад

Exactly this. AC1 specifically designed climbing and parkour separately. The climbing was so slow, that it encouraged you to use parkour to move around faster. Advanced controls showed the difference between a new player and skilled player. Plus those moments where you can only climb tall buildings and vantage points slowly heightened the feeling that you were up very high.

@shmapple29 14 дней назад

The parkour in rev feels so fluid to me maybe I’m biased as that’s my favorite entry in the series or maybe it’s the satisfying feeling I get when that hook blade pops out and it makes the unsheathing noise but it feels amazing

@RodZombie Месяц назад

When it comes to Realism vs Gameplay or Video Game Logic, there has to be a balance. While Altair's climbing style and speed might be more realistic, the fact that it is slow won't appeal to every player, especially when you return to it after even playing Assassin's Creed II due to the increase in speed, and so the compromise between those two games was to increase the climbing speed for gameplay more than for realism. The thing about the climb leap in Syndicate, Origins, Odyssey, Valhalla, and Mirage is that taking away the ability to do a manual jump (whether scaling a building or jumping as you move through the environment on foot) means less control for the player. Making it an automatic response only makes sense when there's enough distance between one grab point and the next, otherwise the character does the slower hand to hand movements between grab points that have a much shorter distance. You still need to be climbing the "correct" parts of the surface for the auto climb leap to trigger. But if you have the ability to do a climb leap when you want to, it's something that gives the player more freedom, and allows the character to skip over a grab point that is very close to the one they are already grabbing, and to then grab the one that is high enough for a climb leap to happen. Therefore you give more control to the player.

@GrandHighGamer Месяц назад

People are vastly overestimating the 'strategy' of older games, there was never really element of challenge. You didn't manage stamina, you couldn't fall if you messed up a handhold or tried to climb on a weak structure, you just held up unless you needed to move to the side a bit first. So the move to making it faster isn't surprising, I think the biggest issue (and one people had issue with in Mirage) is maintaining momentum and not having moves that suddenly slow you down to a crawl as they feel bad. But either way it's largely animation driven than anything with any mechanical challenge. Parkour at least is generally going to be improved, with less 'oh now my character is running up a wall and then leaping off it to his death with barely any input from me' nonsense that could make chases in the early game a bit frustrating. Maybe the new one is too simplistic, but it was never complex to play in the slighest.

@videodeposu8741 17 дней назад

Not really. Parkour downgraded with AC3. Making it faster with one button climbing just makes parkour a side gimmick. I mean yes it was never challenging but you had to do something manually to climb somewhere. You could use ejects, or long jump and many other way to reach the top. Every piece of movement was made by player. Now, it doesn't even have animation cancelling meaning movements are more like packages instead of little movements. So yes AC1-RV one is waay more complex.

@horvathbenedek3596 17 дней назад

Literally everything you said is wrong. Incredible. The breaks in momentum actually incentivized players to look for more efficient climb routes. And we don't have to estimate anything, we KNOW the older parkour system was better, because we played it. And it's not about difficulty, it's about control. AC went through a paradigm shift gradually, where parkour basically disappeared, and climbing went from game mechanics to vertical traversal. The problem with that is, climbing and parkour were parts of the franchise's identity. Your entire comment is like saying it's logical to remove reloading from an FPS game because it just breaks the pacing of the combat. If you don't understand how artifically created (often realistic) limitations, and various methods to get around them can constitute a game mechanics, then you don't understand the purpose of videogames.

@jormdeworm Месяц назад

It felt pretty good in Mirage ngl

@NEXUS..... Месяц назад

No. It felt clunky as shit with a half baked system with glitchy mechanics and terrible animations to go along with it. Terrible.

@jormdeworm Месяц назад

@@NEXUS..... bro really said “it’s rage baiting time” and rage baited all over the place 😂

@azzy9293 Месяц назад

@@jormdeworm I think your both kind of losers

@guilhermelisboa1857 Месяц назад

@@jormdeworm He probably likes unity, the most cluncky AC to control, even Leo K admited that Unity is awful.

@jormdeworm Месяц назад

@@guilhermelisboa1857 absolutely a fact. If there is a game where parkour is absolutely unreliable it’s Unity

@elruneburst1549 21 день назад

2:50 "Every finger's a fish hook, mate."

@Col3Jaeger Месяц назад

The main character becomes more and more magnetic with each new release of AC.

@Blazerri Месяц назад

AC2, AC3 and Unity are my all time favourites

@MostafaMonini Месяц назад

Where is shay 😡

@PanoptesDreams 8 дней назад

Fantastic breakdown!

@waylonk2453 9 дней назад

Thanks for renting all these AC games to capture the gameplay for us!

@Daniel_Plainview_1911 Месяц назад

Do you have anything positive to say about assassin's creed anymore?

@nixad4248 Месяц назад

exactly my dude,this boomers are going out of hand,they always look what is bad in these modern games without realising what is good,for example origins and odyssey had great setting,i liked egypt and greek world,even ac2 isnt perfect game,but they dont target ac2 for its weakness because of their fucking nostalgia,which is not reason to treat newer games bad

@arturikartur9955 Месяц назад

Looks like he doesn't

@arturikartur9955 Месяц назад

He literally says that climbing in AC1 is fun lol, of course it is,. Hour to reach half of a building

@nixad4248 Месяц назад

@@arturikartur9955 exactly how tf is that fun,climbing in ac 2 was annoying enough but in ac 1 climbing is the reason why i never played it

@literallysnake Месяц назад

@@nixad4248AC1-Revelations has easily the best parkour system in the series, you just have to put a little effort in learning it Instead of just holding climb button and watch protagonist slowly ascending, you should use side and back ejects and learn when is the best time to be in high-profile or low-profile and analyze the environment a little to find the fastest way to your location. It becomes fast and fluid after that and it's extremely fun

@crazycutboi5333 Месяц назад

I dont see how the slow realistic climbing is fun i was playing ac brotherhood and literally fell asleep climbing cuz it was so slow and boring

@digitalgdi Месяц назад

there is one thing that I guess is important, but not everyone notices... the size of the buildings. Jacob's London buildings are insanely tall for example; I guess this is one of the reasons they changed it in more recent games (it probably would've be very tedious to climb in London if it was more realistically done). Same for Bayek. Basim's buildings are smaller, so, it's easier to do as in the original games...

@LlywellynOBrien Месяц назад

Every clip you showed from Origins onward had them using ledges etc. they are just built into nearly every building, and buildings are way more textured, so they stand out less.

@GSol1 Месяц назад

Climbing in AC1 is horrible. Altair is so slow and he struggles in comparison to characters like Connor and Edward

@gerstein03 Месяц назад

I'll take unrealistic climbing that improves quantity of life over hyper realistic climbing that makes the game feel like a chore especially in a game who's controls are as god awful as AC 1

@mr.g6758 13 дней назад

Assassins creed 1 was one of the best games for me to play on Xbox. Every game after that felt less like a game and more like I was being forced through a tunnel. Videos like yours help me understand more details as why I like games over others.

@gamerdude746 15 дней назад

For Syndicate, I need to give a heads up that the Fryes leap jump only if you're holding the high-profile button while climbing. Let go if it while climbing and they'll do normal, more realistic climbing like Arno and before.

@ImThAtGuY90 Месяц назад

Man most of you Ac fans are always complaining about the smallest things

@faikerdogan2802 26 дней назад

Nahh jump is better. Realistic isint always better

@cdgonepotatoes4219 6 дней назад

Ezio with the hook blade was the right combination of having to figure out where you need to go and giving greater upward mobility. Most buildings didn't have that many high walls anyway, and ledges were strategically placed so you had to do a lot more than going up. Climbing the most scenic vistas required some trial and error.

@Aelvir114 Месяц назад

AC1 also was hilarious in the fact that the guards could parkour the same way you can and my first time playing it it was surreal to see guys in plate armor parkouring like that. Still hilarious to this day. To me though, Unity had the most fluid and smooth parkour system, while parkour in AC1+Ezio trilogy were the most realistic.

@ordinalchaos Месяц назад

I remember how exited i was to climb Big Ben in Syndicate, only for him to just leap his way up. It was so dull and it made me reallize how little fun I was having with the game overall. I stoped playing then and never bought another assisins creed since.

@MuchDrOrange День назад

I mean to be honest i feel like the games in the middle of this spectrum are more accurate. Cause think about, these are highly skilled assassins of course they'd be able climb faster than the average "parkourer". And the reason i say the middle as opposed to the end is because the middle is the right balance of skill and realisticness.

@cleon24769 10 дней назад

I think I can see how the newer AC games chose convenience over realism, but the first AC game's climbing mechanics hold a special place in my heart. It was challenging in a fun way, and the way it forced you to navigate and plan out your route made it feel like an entire game all its own.

@SPC49 12 дней назад

Hey, recently returned to AC with a purchase of Valhalla, I really love the game so far and have only just got to the part where they arrive in England. It's strange seeing Eivor be closer to spiderman, but I wouldn't want the climbing system to slow down because of how much exploration is reliant on it. What I would love to see is a climbing progression being implemented. As a climber myself, when I become familiar with the layout of a route, I climb it faster, gaining confidence in familiarity. I do a lot of cliff jumping so getting to the higher ones often requires a bit of climbing. Seeing an improvement to the climbing system for the newer AC gamrs could come in the form of a perk tree or progression tree. Or even finding buildings of similar layout, hand holds or texture will allow you to climb the faster after climbing enough of them. And having a grappling hook to use similar to climber's anchor point could be extremely interesting and allow for practicing the incredible leaps we seen in the game. As these games are built around climbing and parkour, it's high time there's a system implemented to make climbing more engaging.

@TheBlackFox666 Месяц назад

I miss having to plan out a route as I'm coming up to a building. Now the only challenge are the "find a path" secret spots.

@Optimus_Bull Месяц назад

Regarding the King Kong & Spider-Man scaling with leap jump. They only happen when you hold in the A button on the controller in the more recent games and is optional. You only need it specifically for gaps on buildings where regular climbing don't reach, like they were in AC 2 & Brotherhood. Except for Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla most of the time since in these games, they let you climb up almost anything. There are only 2 major changes to it, which is the speed and that you don't need to press B to grab the ledge again after doing a leap jump. AC 3, Black Flag & Rogue are outliers as they removed manual control over it and made it automatic when scaling up buildings.

@gbladewarrior6884 28 дней назад

At this rate the next Assassins Creed you play as a vampire and can walk on vertical walls and the ceiling.

@Zerashadow 17 дней назад

It would seem the next AC you will be playing a Samurai and a Ninja

@DaBesst88 17 дней назад

I'm for it😂

@honpakkoh4476 8 дней назад

At the end though, this is all just due to player feedback, people keep saying the climbing is too slow so they gradually make it easier and faster to the point where you can scale walls like an ant…

@Brotection_ Месяц назад

Old assassin's creed: Methodical climbing 😎 New assassin's creed: DYNO DYNO DYNO NOW DYNOOOOO 🧗 Edit: 4:55 ????????????????

@FrancescoPaggiaro 10 дней назад

Cool analysis

@JibbSmartGD 22 дня назад

Great comparison, thanks! Good way to highlight that a system becomes boring if it doesn't require any thought to engage with it

@leonard_y32 Месяц назад

Climbing wise, I like AC3 the most. Though I did "walking on rooftops" most in ACunity, with the armor/outfit we slapped on, it just feels incredible.

@scoobsshrooms109 17 дней назад

I agree, ac3 i think looks the best and is the most pleasing.

@KunoichiPeri 10 дней назад

So Unity is where things REALLY went off the rails and started falling apart....got it!

@Void6- 26 дней назад

In the first ACs the layout is designed in a way where theres almost always a way to climb fast, you as the player need to figure out the layout to get faster. You need to pay attention to keep the flow going. The moment they decided to make it super fast and climbable everywhere the climbing mechanic became obsolete. Just let the character run in a line towards your marker and youll probaly get there most of the time.

@nowhereweareagain 29 дней назад

I think AC2 had the best balance. It was quick, but you also still had to actually kind paths and figure out how to get up things. Also, the jump reach wasn’t unlocked till a little later in the game, meaning you got to go back too old places and find new things and paths.

@MoriTheRoach 15 дней назад

3 was the perfect middle ground for me, still not easy enough to be considered silly while also maintaining a decent amount of realism with the hold points. Though for 3 it made sense because Connor literally grew up tree and rock climbing, so of course he can move the way he did. Literally all the Kenways we played as were raised in or explored foreign or forested ground throughout their life, which is a great in universe explanation for their parkour prowess.

@haythamkenway7934 15 дней назад

Yes. AC3 is really underrated and the parkour system is one of the best.

@ThomasTheAlphaAndOmega8509 10 дней назад

Not to forget, in the trailer for Mirage, it shows Basim is very fleet footed so with the climp leaps, it makes some sense. Also, in the game, he says he was born in Baghdad and lived in Karkh as a child, and picked up his skills at freerunning growing up. So him being a fast climber, storywise, is because he knows every inch of the city and every crack and crevace of every building.

@ScreaminSeahawk 6 дней назад

My favorite climbing was in AC Syndicate thanks to the grappling hook.

@SauceyFredo 14 дней назад

AC Revelations was my favorite for climbing and parkour. It was fast and dynamic while still not being floaty and having an in universe explanation for your increased mobility. Not just more stat points or something

@DukeoftheAges 11 дней назад

This is really important. A big part of AC back in the day was climbing and finding your path. Now it's like sprinting, it's just mindeless. AC hasn't been good in more than a decade.

@pessolano461 Месяц назад

I would argue that while the leap jumping is unrealistic, the fact that players have to scale buildings so much in these games, using animations that scale them faster is in the players' best interest. Climbing slowly or going up a path only to reach a dead end and be forced to scale back down and around to find the right path can be frustrating and time-consuming, and when you have sequences where you have to tail/chase someone or flee from an area, slow climbing can hurt the player unnecessarily. Though it is best when the climbing requires handholds in order to work, Origins just looks silly.

@plagidoktor5812 12 дней назад

i mean, the ''leap jumping'' is actually a parkour technique called ''dino'' wchich involves you boosting yourself up to grab a handhold on a further part of the structure you're scaling. The problem is, the ac protagonists in later games can do it all the time, while doing a dino irl consumes a lot of energy, so in practice you can effectively use it like once every wall climb so that you don't drain youself from the rest of your energy to scale the rest of the wall

@alexdavies8079 Месяц назад

I think odyssey is an exception, as kass and alexios can literally stop time, ignite their swords on fire and teleport to assassinate

@homelessperson5455 18 дней назад

0:50 I understand wanting realism and liking the immersion it brings. But, realism does not always equal fun. I prefer having more speed than Altair because it fits the tone for chases better and emphasizes the agility and acrobatics these master infiltrators have, even if it is somewhat superhuman. I do think you're onto something though. I think the difference between good environment designs and bad ones is the complexity and interaction they have. The movements should have variety, and the environment should always act like a puzzle the player has to solve in real-time. AC 3 and Unity are probably my favorite environments, though I think the Ezio trilogy has some great layouts for making the player think about their approach more. AC 3 shines with it's trees, room sequences, and the open areas. Unity is great imo because of the complexity of its parkour system. The animations just have so much variety and feel incredibly fluid, and the environment still has enough complexity to make it interactive. I haven't played the most modern games, but I did play Syndicate and saw some issues there that may have lain the foundation for the issues in the newest games. The grappling hook. The grappling hook is awesome and super fun for the light steampunk aesthetic. But, it really makes me not care about the environment. I can just skip climbing to higher elevations. There not any challenge to using it. It at least made sense lore-wise, because of course the assassin's would develop easier and more powerful tech for their recruits. Judging by the footage here for the newer games though, it just looks like it all has gone to the extreme. There's no interaction at all. I have to imagine that part of this may be due to the architecture of the time periods. When every building is just a bunch of bricks or straight flat walls, it seems kinda unrealistic to not just have cracks in the bricks to climb up. But, even for castle walls and pyramids, I would have liked to see them fudge the environments for more interaction. Have some windows, broken portions, scaffolding, ropes, nails, overgrown trees from courtyards, anything to make these surfaces more complex.

@shadowhound5113 9 дней назад

People got mad that the older climbing was slow. But when was climbing a building suppose to be fast?

@SanityTV_Last_Sane_Man_Alive Месяц назад

AC1 was fresh and innovative, and fun. The sequels are like 80's movie sequels. Cash grabs using the name, but having everything that gave it a soul, ripped out and replaced with flashing lights to keep toddlers entertained.

@lucasbrelivet5238 Месяц назад

Bayek actually needs things to grab onto, but those things can be as small as the space between two well fitted stones of a wall. And you do need to find a path, but most of the surfaces are covered in paths that allow you to go more or less straight up, which is amplified by his ability to jump so high. The irony is that quite often, finding a worse path, with fewer holds, will cause him to jump between each hold and go faster than if he had enough holds to not need to jump.

@DameNaNoYo Месяц назад

I remember how hard it is to climb Hagia Sophia in AC Revelations just to get Ishak Pasha's armor.

@hersoulmateforever Месяц назад

This also led to design changes, as the buildings no long have minute detail tha were required before for handholds

@_S_o_l_o_m_o_n_ 29 дней назад

AC 2's settings were perfect still feeling real by and large but also having the perfect speed and the perfect enviroment for such speed

@jayceybrunken Месяц назад

Great video ❤

@mentorAKG29 Месяц назад

Glad you liked it!!

@Leanzazzy 15 дней назад

The older games actually had realistic climbing and you had to look for handholds and ledges to hold onto, whereas all the newer games (ESPECIALLY the RPG games) your Assassin just jumps and latches onto bare rock and somehow ascends faster than a rocket. Also 2:00 is probably the first time I have ever seen Connor climbing a building. Yes, I played Assassin's Creed III, but never actually climbed buildings; always used the lift on the side, then would run across. Even apart from that, the Kenway games introduced much wider streets and vast, open, empty areas and sailing so there wasn't any of the close, intimate feeling of the older games, where the rooftops were meticulously designed and you could literally run all the way from one end of the map to the other without touching the ground. In the older games, parkour was compulsory and fun and was an integral part of the experience. Later on, it just became an afterthought. Most of the time the world is so large your character is either sailing about or on horseback.

@wasnotable Месяц назад

The only reason in the newer games they leap is because you held down L-Shift + Spacebar, if you only held L-Shift then they should climb normally. (Ofc unless there is no option.)