Bikepacking With Your Dog: Dogpacking

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Ever considered taking your dog bikepacking? As challenging as it might sound, dogs love to play just as much as we do, and there are practical ways of traveling by bike with your canine companion. In this video, Neil dives into the world of dogpacking with a primer on the subject and an interview with seasoned dogpacker John Freeman...
Outline:
Intro - 0:00
What is dog packing? - 0:45
Subscribe and Support - 2:53
Interview Intro with John - 3:19
When did you start bikepacking? - 4:26
How do you train your dog? 6:00
Basket or Trailer? - 8:32
How often does the dog walk? - 9:28
Can the ground be too hot for the dog? - 11:57
What does home look like? - 13:24
Where does everything go? - 15:10
How heavy is the rig? - 18:02
How to fly with a dog internationally? 20:56
Does the dog fend off other dogs? - 24:53
Wildlife and livestock 27:43
How to plan for dog injuries? 29:35
rapid questions 31:58
Final pieces of advice for dogpacking 32:48
Meet Mira the dog - 33:48
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Music by Ben Weaver (benweaver.net)
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@duzer 3 года назад

I'm gonna steal Mira! ;)

@meyekull 3 года назад

ayyy it’s the duzer

@ianbarr4716 3 года назад

Hey Ryan. I saw this video and thought of your videos. That dog is amazing!

@OmniTierra 3 года назад

You can borrow her whenever you come ride with us 🤗

@jonpoon3896 2 года назад

You need to find a dog for Mira to hang out with

@nikoulph 2 года назад

Me I want Mira and the Bicycle :D lol You all 3 are wonderful!

@countingcoup 3 года назад

Love John and Mira ❤️ found them on Duzer’s channel, 1st in Baja Mexico and 2nd on the Great Divide… John and Mira are the best team 👍🏽

@daleocallaghan6228 2 года назад

HE STARTED HIS OWN VIDEOS, JUST IN CASE YOUR NOT AWARE. HAVE A GOOD ONE. 😊

@OneByEleven 2 года назад

Same! Got to know of them through Ryan's channel. So cool!

@JakeLuke308 3 года назад

Mira is my favorite RU-vid personality. John's nice too, but Mira makes the internet better.

@kippen64 3 года назад

Having to go at a slower pace might actually be a bonus.

@kaligrownbudz6200 3 года назад

Omg!!! It’s John and Mira❤️. Whoo-hoo! Im just waiting for the duzer to chime in on this interview in the comment section soon. I’ve seen these rascals bike packing with Ryan in many of his videos and John seems like such a nice guy that’s down to earth and mira is just too damn adorable. This was awesome. Great job on the interview.

@duzer 3 года назад

Here I am, chiming in!! Meeting John and Mira randomly in Baja in 2020 was destiny!

@kaligrownbudz6200 3 года назад

@@duzer The man himself🙏. Always a pleasure watching your travels Ryan. I’ve been following you since the early days when you were in Venezuela on that discovery channel show out of the wild.

@ianbarr4716 3 года назад

Neil, I've seen John and Mira on another channel. That dog is UNBELIEVABLE! Thank you so much for this video. Cheers.

@BEBUSINESSCHANNEL 3 года назад

I love John and MIRA

@WheelsonaBike 3 года назад

Mira!!! What a wonderful treat to see Mira (and John) on this channel. Awesome content. I have a 17lbs dog and while I don't typically ride these types of trails, I do like taking Luna on my short touring rides.

@JustJake77 3 года назад

Mira & John... Legends!

@lennyharp 2 года назад

As a former bike mechanic I never changed to more than 8 speed sprocket so that I would not wear out chains so fast.

@timfarness5136 3 года назад

Mira is so cool with her goggles.

@alphonzosolorzano5011 3 года назад

*Doggles

@OmniTierra 2 года назад

@rexspecks

@avenpace 3 года назад

John & Mira - great team

@BIKEPACKINGcom 3 года назад

They really are.

@CanadianSledDog 2 года назад

I got into bikepacking for my dog's sake - so that I could keep up with her on the trails. Zora and I spent 60 days dogpacking Vancouver Island, the Sunshine Coast, and Gulf Islands in 2019. She trotted an average top speed of 7 km per hour, 20 km per day, for about 1000 km total and never needed to be carried. If your dog is athletic enough, and you're willing to go her pace, and really listen to her, you don't need a way to carry her. I just think of the bike as a way to carry all of our stuff and keep up with my dog. If anyone reading this is even considering taking their dog on a bikepacking trip, I can't recommend it strongly enough! Just be sure your dog is up to the task you're asking them to do, and monitor their health and energy levels closely because they can't tell you in words when they get a blister or need a break. And keep those pups cool - you can help keep them cool by keeping them wet. Happy trails.

@OmniTierra 2 года назад

That is addressed in the Bikepacking.com article. We ride many km and at high speeds sometimes. So, for us a way to carry Mira is a must.

@CanadianSledDog 2 года назад

@@OmniTierra Hi, John! I'm a big fan and somehow didn't know you had this channel, can't wait to check it out! Whether to carry or not to carry Zora has always been the question for me, range vs climbing capability right? Your setup is hands down the best I've seen, combined with Mira's attitude about the basket, she's as happy as Zora in her 4runner. When I first saw that rig I was stricken with bike envy big time! But there's also that part of me that wants to keep my bike light, at least before it's loaded lol. It's kind of a paradox for me.

@HoofnIt03 3 года назад

John and Mira! They are a great team! 💖

@outbackwack368 2 года назад

John and Mira are AWESOME!!!

@WongJawa 3 года назад

Mira is the best. Saw John and Ryan travelling together...with Mira.

@lennydellavalle3683 Год назад

took my dog to Germany, Switzerland and Italy in the 90s. it was the best time.

@grahamkay8711 3 года назад

I think I saw John and mira in kananakis two weekends ago

@OmniTierra 2 года назад

Likely you did

@aprildntn 3 года назад

I remember reading about John and Melan and then finding John and Mira and thinking, wow here’s another guy doing the same thing, not realizing they were the same guy. Lol. I’m excited to follow them on their next adventures, and I’m just starting to train my new pup on the bike. Trailer to start I think.

@mswarrior932 2 года назад

Love the dream team!! Looking forward to watching their trip around the world!! The world's most famous dog!! Mira!!!!🚴🐺

@Volkmannx 2 года назад

❤️ John!

@nixternal 3 года назад

Nice, it's Mira La Perra!

@swnorcraft7971 Год назад

No doubt, Ryan and John's bikepacking together are worthy videos! This was definitely an eye opener for the potential Dog Packer. Thanks for sharing.............

@rogervancleave8670 3 года назад

Great interview and always good to see John and Mira!

@bikesandbeyond618 3 года назад

Great video. Nice to see John and Mira and hear how they do it.

@dickflinghammer58 3 года назад

Bike camping before it was a thing. It just seemed logical but I don't have a dog in my life now but every dog I've been lucky enough to be blessed with was an adventure lover like me. Maybe my adventure cat would be interested in a trip 🙂. I ride a mid-fat all mountain/trail full susser. I have no problems some bemoan not using specialized bikepacking bikes but with my Thule pack and peddle pannier rack on the rear triangle and my awesome homade version of one on the fork I'm happy with my rig. I just got a free sewing machine so I'm making some custom bags for my frame. Can't wait for cooler weather here in Fl for the next trip Cheers

@dickflinghammer58 3 года назад

I forgot to add a lot of the areas I ride have feral hogs. They can root up a large area and riding through it with a hard tail is just that🤪. Problem is the rack on the rear triangle kinda deadens the suspension action plus I weigh only 155 .

@ridewithwoody5808 3 года назад

This is why I want a dog...

@gaypreator8547 2 года назад

Got Stick. Proudly on my vehicle. Happy to see John and Mira getting coverage. Great change of pace for biking. Dogs don’t get in the way - Respect - Love make it worth while.

@billoneill6114 3 года назад

I did an overnighter with my dog on the 63 mile Pine Creek rail trail in PA and I am doing the GAP and C&O with him in September. I got him used being in his trailer by having him sleep in and be in it at home. He's only 24 pounds so I have a lot of room in the trailer for his food and gear in the there too.

@MoyMacGill 3 года назад

Love that this information is going to be out there. My living situation is now in a way where I’ll be able to get a dog and I love to bike back. With others sharing their experience it will be very helpful.

@adamonthego89 10 месяцев назад

I LOVE THIS! Been wanting to bikepack forever since getting my pup, thanks for sharing Neil!

@zachfletcher6751 3 года назад

Much love

@compassionsix 3 года назад

I’ve been planning on doing this for some time. After watching this today, I finally bought a Burley COHO trailer for my dog. My best friend is a small dog so I don’t want him jumping from a high basket. Stay tuned for my adventures!

@fuerLutzi 3 года назад

Burley just did a recall on their ballz QR axle. Might be interestin' for ya. COHO hauler myself.

@reanimator540 3 года назад

Thank you

@peterpeterson7918 2 года назад

thanks a lot!

@andrewgardner6699 3 года назад

great looking shirt Neil. killing it!

@ericlakota4400 2 года назад

I'm listening and I think of Mera with love when he was saying how she was bite was like aww poor Mera .duzer made Mera one of my favorite you tuber just so sweet

@felipericketts 2 года назад

It is going to be great to see John and Mira on the road again! :-)

@jkpersonal2721 10 месяцев назад

Amazing human being!

@stephendumas 3 года назад

First saw John and Mira on Duzer’s channel. Love their energy. The ‘stache is looking good, Neil. Keep it up!

@clintonliem7561 2 года назад

Great video.

@triton189 3 года назад

I wish but my buddy is 85 pounds and there's no way I can "carry" her and it would be unfair to make her run along on most trips. I do take her backpacking though and love having her along. Great video and info!

@edinelsonramirez5656 2 года назад

"Mira la perra"! I love it!

@fredricgriffin6070 Год назад

Mira!!!John’s pretty awesome too:)

@johnnykwest7819 2 года назад

Love how you guys decide to wear the same shirts

@jameslopez958 Год назад

John and Mira are Awesome 👍😎. Thanks for sharing this Information Brother 😎

@BIKEPACKINGcom 3 года назад

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@OmniTierra 2 года назад

The Bikepacking Journal is terrific!

@chriszimmerman1599 3 года назад

Mira hype!

@dontspamkoth 3 года назад

Did you two organize your shirts before this interview? Very cute.

@_MattyG_ 3 года назад

I feel Like timing is hard. Hard when you are so invested in something like this and your companion ages 2x as fast. I would love to take my dog bikepacking!

@dimllc 2 года назад

Listening to the dog backpacking adventures by John & Mira was great. Our dog being a hound mix prefers walking & sniffing to being wheeled around, but the dog trailer we got him will be worth it when he gets older…training has begun, muhhahahaaaaaaa (evil laugh). 🤔..however, one of them is wearing their shirt in reverse…just can’t tell which one.

@louisstevens9962 3 года назад

my heros

@sanhestar 2 года назад

did you completely leave out/forget the cargo bikes? The Riese&Müller Load modells are able to go cross country AND carry dog and load with ease.

@kasisyphus201 2 года назад

Great vid! After watching Duzer, John & Mira, I am seriously thinking about investing in Surly Big Dummy and touring... even without a dog, these long tail bikes are da bomb! One thing I would be worried about if I had a rear cart would be cars not seeing it - so low to the ground and drivers really only expect the cyclist and nothing connected behind (I even see this will cars/trucks towing - drivers only expect the first auto). Keep on keepin' on!

@lhommeetsonchientreketrando Год назад

Nice vidéo.... I want to begin bikepacking with my dog ... all devices are good

@lostways8196 2 года назад

i cant wait to gowith my doggo. lol just ordered her crate thats gonna sit on the new rack that holds more weight =D go team mira!

@olympic-gradelurker Год назад

I'm getting a dachshund/Yorkie mix puppy in a month and I'm thinking of training her to ride in a basket if she's up to it. I've already switched to a rear rack and micro paniers set up, it wouldn't be much to bolt a basket to the top

@feligato_ 3 года назад

Dogpacking in a cargo bike should be great too

@OmniTierra 2 года назад

Yes but not for bikepacking.

@nowayout8773 2 года назад

@@OmniTierra it seems like mira and you are deep in the back country, so a cargo bike would be a bit fragile. Imo. But for light trails, sure. They seem very heavy, too. I live in Germany in the Black Forest and most cargo bikes are ebikes.

@Nizgoob 7 месяцев назад

Holy crap those were some amazing stories! Really great interview. I think Neil needs to spend a bit less time looking at the notes though, I expected to see more reactions when John talked about a crash that needed stitches and Mira getting chewed up! He's probably seen just as many hard scrapes so it doesn't faze him, hahahaa

@BMad-we6qf 2 года назад

Might shift back to the trailer when she gets older and can’t jump up that high again. But that will be many years from now. ❤️

@otelada73 2 года назад

I have been following John and Mira for more than a year, now I have a dog (80lb), she is big, even so I would like to walk the Camino de Santiago with her. This afternoon I am going to see the car and do calculations.

@Lousysuperior 3 года назад

This makes me want a dog🤤

@jeansg9670 2 года назад

Hello I am Jeannette. I have started to travel with a small dog in Turkey over a year. Thanks for making these videos “ how it's possible to bikepacking with your animals”. My question, have you or someone have the experience of riding with your canine body to an countries in Africa?

@mary_114 Год назад

OMG!! Jon Snow is into biking now!!! 😝

@omare_biketonature 3 года назад

Mira…Mira…Mira (makes sense in Spanish 😅)

@mhe8545 3 года назад

John and Mira! When will we see you on the road again?

@OmniTierra 2 года назад

We have a video on our channel @omnitierra uploading soon.

@iynvfy1536 2 года назад

Need a diy guide on how to build Maras setup

@horusgarcia1 Год назад

What basket is being used at 8:34? My dog is 30lbs. I believe a basket like in this video is best suited for my puggle. He should be able to lay down and sit-up confidently. Plus, I should be able to leash him so he doesn't jump off, but I prefer not to escape a crash. Finally, what bike is the best fit for this? Should I go rigid or hardtail?

@riverdog6875 2 года назад

Thank you so much John & Mira! I'm an experienced bikepacker and am getting a pup in a week or so, a heeler/aussie mix. I was concerned about getting a dog because I didn't want to stop or limit my training/riding but seeing what you have done is inspiring. I'm probably going to get the Burley CoHo but am wondering about bikes. I don't see anyone dog packing with a double suspension and am wondering why. I have a Fatbike (I live in the Gunnison country so our winters are long) and also a steel and carbon gravel bike. The Fatbike is heavy, of course, but I think it may be the best option. Thoughts? I'd also like to use the steel gravel bike. I guess carbon is out of the question with a trailer. I read that somewhere anyway. Is that accurate? But I haven't seen any dog packing users of gravel bikes. Is there also a reason for that? Any help appreciated. So enjoy your vids. Thank you.

@mariahwalker4477 Год назад

I have a heeler/border collie cross and I've had mixes of these breeds before. These dogs can run forever! They are also super smart and learn really fast. Mira as a border collie is perfectly suited to this kind of activity.

@HonedByJones 2 года назад

Not sure John and Mira had a RU-vid channel when this interview was done? Anywho, it’s here - ru-vid.com

@AlexHaglund618 3 месяца назад

"Maybe they just melt down any time you leave the house..." There are a lot of indications here that your dog-human experience is very similar to my own.

@judycarrier5460 Год назад

what kind of harness do you use,also what kind of googles on Mira

@christiansaravia7865 Год назад

I used to have a cat named Mira! Except we pronounced it My-ra! I really want to take my dog bikepacking. Luckily she's only like 8 pounds

@raize1234 Год назад

How is it with sleep? Does the dog sleep during riding the bike? I want to start with my dog but wonder if she will get enough sleep, because if we are on the road for 8 hours and she will be awake the whole time then that doesnt sound too healthy but not really sure.

@gabbygabs5107 2 года назад

My dog is almost 11, 30 lbs and blind so she could never run next to the bike (even when she could see … she’s a pug mix and doesn’t believe in running) and it’s my dream to take her dog packing one day.

@mooreoutdoor9841 2 года назад

Did you and John plan to wear the same color shirts for this?

@THEGEEK2001 6 месяцев назад

Does bikepacking journal deliver to Uk?

@BIKEPACKINGcom 6 месяцев назад

It prints in Germany and ships Worldwide.

@TheRoyalSh0t 2 года назад

Catpacking video when?

@Cycle2life Год назад

What are the best sleeping mats with a dog? I have a large dog and don’t want him to puncture it…

@curtheciscokid Год назад

I’ve got some specific mats for my dog to lay on but when she joins me on my oversized double pad I just bring an extra blanket and throw it over top. I did this after she already punctured it once and since then no accidents.

@bikeandbarkswilly6147 3 года назад

Nice to see more of this kinda “crazy” people with their furry companions! Just like my human & I! Woof! 🦊 @bikeandbarks

@karenlewkowitz5858 Год назад

More bike pics and where the dog rides

@po311737 3 года назад

I miss Mira

@abdullutfi7748 3 года назад

16:43 nice googles

@ericlakota4400 2 года назад

Oooooo I just saw Mera an a documentary her and this man where riding the devide she was so sweet the man he was riding with cryed saying good buy

@mrljgibson 2 года назад

Surely with the right dog and harness they will help pull you up the hills and get a lift on the way down. 🤣

@nikoulph 2 года назад

Flying with that Salsa blackborow it should be not that easy I guess... How difficult and expensive is to transport such bicycle on airplane?

@OmniTierra 2 года назад

It's the same as a regular bike in terms of cost and packing. There are some tips and tricks but it's pretty straightforward

@nikoulph 2 года назад

@@OmniTierra tnx, I saw you first on Ryan videos, and I fell in love with the bicycle. Than I thought, how would I manage the air travel with this salsa blackborow, and all the stuff I carry... Right now I have a bombtrack beyond with 29x3" and to tell the truth with the new legislation on weight is getting harder to carry the bicycle on the airplane... They started to limit to 21 or 22 kg... The bombtrack with racks is 14kg + the cardboard box 10kg... (I'm already overweight) I wish you did something like Ryan (youtube channel), it would be awesome to follow your and Mira adventures. Tnx for the info

@nikoulph 2 года назад

@@OmniTierra Sorry for the youtube comment did not see that you already have a channel! There you go a new sub ;)

@OmniTierra 2 года назад

@@nikoulph Well @duzer is so big he has spin-off channels. @omnitierra will have regular videos as we ride around the world. It will be different from Duzer but we hope that you find something to enjoy.

@nikoulph 2 года назад

@@OmniTierra definitely ❤️

@6ryba6 3 года назад

The one who gave this video a thumb down was a cat

@compassionsix 3 года назад

Cat packing 👎🏻

@6ryba6 3 года назад

@@compassionsix i don't know, cats are pretty cool

@billoneill6114 3 года назад

Lol. Good one!

@Hermod_Hermit 3 года назад

I'd like to briefly peek into the psyche of the one that downvoted this video. I am sure it is a scary place.

@Mushroomkiller_ Год назад

Johns channel?

@danielroberts2888 2 года назад

I feel like I’ve found my tribe.

@fernandamartins1668 2 года назад

First tou need a dog 😄😄😄😄😄😄😀

@tandago7281 2 года назад

Interesting. I wonder why you don't use a front basket for the dog, that way both you and the dog would have extra interaction (and dog would have a better view)... wouldn't that work?

@OmniTierra 2 года назад

For a smaller dog that would work fine. At 40# Mira would effect the control of the bike.

@ericlakota6512 2 года назад

Its funny i had a short hair chuaha and he went every where i went i would sip tie milk crate on front on bike at the time i dident think much of it because he went evey where i went kyaking he would sit on bow of the boat or conoe any where i went he sat on the dash of are 2000 jeep grand cherokee he would screem bloody merder if i left him home

@Outsideville 2 года назад

I asked my 13 year old dog if he wanted to try bike packing with me. He was so offended, he wouldn't even respond.

@headdeptofeyerolling7167 Год назад

State-side Amish don’t always/often/ever vaccinate dogs so be cautious in area where these communities exist too.

@87solarsky 3 года назад

I'd like to bikepack with a Kangaroo.

@Gulgonful 2 года назад

Man… call it an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think dogs belong on back country adventures unless it’s their trained job (sled dog etc) I see so many folks BC skiing, camping, etc on back country trips… I just can’t get behind it. Maybe it’s just not for me and my dog, I just don’t think I could handle the worst case scenario if my buddy was with me too. Planning for the worst is part of BC traveling.

@willek1335 2 года назад

My dog loves to go camping. She goes absolutely wild with lively excitement. Jumps and runs around like she's on cocaine. xD Have standard procedures in check, and take a step at a time.

@CanadianSledDog 2 года назад

Well, it's true that house pets don't belong in the backcountry and it's not responsible to drag them along, but working breeds like Mira and my sled dog Zora will never be satisfied with a comfortable city life, they literally live for adventure. Each individual is responsible for determining if their dog belongs in the backcountry, and preparing for emergencies.