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@@theoffcamerashow hi! Do you have other methods for payment like paypal? I really wanna watch bill's and john'a full interviews but it only has credit card options 😭
I actually looked up the video of Tofer Grace's monolog in 2005 and when Jason Sudeikis asks a question you can see a white dress shirt figure in the background.
But y'know, how lucky were the REST of us? We got Bill Hader! Years and years of absolute comedic brilliance from that man, and to hear him tell it things just as easily could've gone the other way.
@@mikeb1039 exactly. I'm sure Megan Mullally also watches other people performing, but she doesn't call Lorne Michaels every time. Besides, she said that Bill was above the level not only of his fellow students, but of people already famous for being funny. If she hadn't noticed him, other people would eventually have.
@@ScaryMason We only hear about the people that make it. The odds of people with talent being in the industry and not breaking through to his level of success exist. I was more referring to how his path was not directed towards comedy. He was redirected in that direction by what seems like destiny. But, it sounds like you're a negative nancy in a place where people are negative nancies, you know, RU-vid comment sections.
@@soph7480 you think I am negative? There is a word for meeting one’s destiny: DOOM. Destiny is a wonderful idea when thinking about someone like Bill. If we’re talking about someone like Florence Nightingale who changed a hospitals mortality rate from 40% down to 2%. If that was the destined outcome she could’ve stayed home.
I love that he seems to be someone that still can’t believe he’s famous and successful. Like, he’s still star struck talking about famius people that he’s worked with.
I understood his story like "I know Bill Murray, I don't need another one", like he just needed Hader to be himself and not try to mimic somebody's else humor for the audition
Any SNL player in its history who talks about their audition describes the exact same experience: Michaels never lets out a single laugh during an audition. He approaches his work more like a dour surgeon than a flamboyant show biz impresario.
XD Lorne’s point was exactly what all of you are doing now. To impose an air of mystery and majesty to the show, to go this is SNL. To make a great story, fuck with this kid, and keep him and everyone else guessing and add to the mystique of what SNL is.
immediately went to the topher grace episode to check for him and not only can you see him but when he’s in the background jason sudeikis is asking a question and at that time i’m pretty sure he wasn’t in the cast yet he was still a writer
I think a lot of people have no idea how utterly impressive it is that he was doing improv just for a YEAR and someone noticed that he's good enough to make it to fucking SNL. Some people take years just to be noticed. Yes some of it is luck, but majority of it is because of his sheer talent. It's mind-boggling that on his first episode he already debuted his Pacino impression to raucous applause. In his fifth episode he's already debuting his Vincent Price (along with Kristen Wiig's Judy Garland, who's in her 2nd ep). He was just a feature player back then and you can already see how much he can bring to the table.
As long as you don’t mind making a fool of yourself constantly. Improv groups are extremely annoying. But if you’re good enough to make it to someplace like Second City then you have a chance. That’s about it b
I'm baffled at the number of comments saying that Bill Hader was "lucky". If you haven't watched "Barry" yet, please do. Bill's talent is simply huge, not only as a script writer but also as an actor. Megan Mullally happened to be the FIRST to notice him (only after a year !), but if she hadn't, somebody else would have. Don't fall into the mental trap of "luck". Talent and will power shape opportunities, not the opposite.
So you can't even make out who it is , just a ghostly white shirt in the background. And here he is 13 years later and a hit with his own show. Got a break - but he worked for it.
This is why none of us will ever become famous. Its such an arbitrary thing. There are unknowns who have been working Second City years who are also super funny, but they don't get breaks like this.
Hader is just being humble. You don't have Lorne Michaels fly to LA to watch a show like a personal headhunter unless you're ridiculously talented, and Bill Hader is so talented it's ridiculous.
@@ingvarhallstrom2306 well said. I'm watching "Barry", and I'm blown away by Bill's talent, not only as a script writer but also as an actor. Megan Mullally happened to be the FIRST to notice him (only after a year, notice !). If she hadn't, somebody else would have.
Ingvar is right on this one. I do agree with you that in Hollywood most people get famous through luck and personal connections. But Bill Hader was a nobody from Oklahoma and he had to be ridiculously talented to get famous.
Here's the clip he's talking about at 1:35: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wGpLwFfcA0w.html (1:46 mark of that video). It's pretty incredible, you can even see his "visitor" badge around his neck.
S30 ep9 around 10:35 (on hulu) or when jason sudeikis is asking his question. Bill is in the back slightly to the left in a white button up with his goofy long hair from back in the day.
In other words, he wasn't looking for another Bill Murray he was looking for an original. "I know Bill Murray" as in "I've seen that before, show me something new." ... That's my take, anyway.
But also it’s like going to a guru... They throw out these nuggets of wisdom and you have to try to figure out what on earth it all means... Almost speaking another language... I mean Bill was so green and Lorne had all the power in that situation... Lorne wasn’t worried about Bill understandings the interaction... Lorne simply wanted to meet Bill and see if he was the right guy for the job. Wax on...wax off!
I think that's Bill in the white shirt in the background of Topher Grace's SNL monologue (see at 1 min 47 sec) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wGpLwFfcA0w.html