I sort of missed it, too, because I was chasing my own sporting career, but watching all the replays are just insane. Talk about fireworks. Everyone knew it was coming, and they delivered. There's nothing like it today. That's for sure!
I’m 28 and i still remember the greats. And I still remember when the nba before they screwed it up with politics, flop and new nba rules. Once those three things came in I could care less about modern nba
Over the years, there has been way too many crappy beers produced in the USA, but there has been nothing more dire than Bill Laimbeer. The douchiest of all beers.
Imagine the athmospere in the Bulls day before games with Pistons away and in the teams of that era before rivalry games... They were prepairing for war not the game...
@@miloskuzmanovic full games are available for search here at yt. i have just watched the bulls vs pistons recently. it was just ok. LOL. i'm really suprised though that flagrant fouls were already an existing foul call for the so called 90's tough defense.
@@kingsatria6483 I am talking about days before they have to go to Detroit to play the game... Game itself can be meh but going there knowing there will be dirthy plays... Some duels in the air they had could easly end players career. Plus beating your biggest rival in that era away was special... Competitiveness was on another level. People are saying MJs competitevness was of the roof but every NBA team of that era had players like that. Plus they all wanted to beat MJ proove something... Today basketball is clean. Looks like they feal excitment like that maybe in the finals..
@@MovieGuy666 Knicks came after the Pistons and still played hard and tough and sometimes dirty against the Bulls. The rule changes that happened to open up the game and favored offensive players (like no hand checking, no illegal defenses, etc) came after the 1990s.
I'm 51 bud and don't watch NBA anymore but I lived through all this stuff. Was a HUGE bandwagon Bulls fan because of Jordan don't care to admit it lol. Never been to Chicago but he was so good it was hard not to watch and cheer him on. Hate to be the old man shaking his fist at clouds but NBA was better back then just my opinion.
Wrong. Laimbeer was a good player. 4 time All Star. Led league in rebounding once. 7 straight seasons averaged double figures in rebounds. 10 straight seasons of 9 or more rebounds. Laimbeer outplayed many that he faced.
@@davidmilton5887 Heard that before, he also chose to be a cheap shot artist! You either are or you aren't, and he was. Your reputation in life will follow you period!
@@davidmilton5887 I know I've read and seen that before, much like the worm did, only he got really cheap on his hit's. He wasn't man enough to play football but tried the same tactics in basketball, that's why people don't like him! 🤔
Laimbeer was something else. Respectfully to him, he was not able to block a shot to save his life so he resorted to cheap and dirty elbows. I also remember him getting into fights with smaller players than himself but rarely against similar sized players. I always remember that one one game Robert Parish showed him what's what.
I am a Pistons fan. Born and raised in the D. In 92, I moved to Miami. I really, really loved the Knicks vs Heat rivalry in the 90s. I will never forget watching Van Gundy clinging to Zo's leg. Classic.
Dude I'm an old dawg Aussie and back in the day I remember that. Van Gundy is a classic. 😂 As an old skool player in the nineties and a huge MJ fan I just loved the bad boy pistons trying to test and disrupt him and yep those Knicks Miami games where legendary. Word dawg.
You need teams like the bad boys.. They help create great challenge in competition and drive other players to get better. The Bad Boys pushed and motivated Jordan to get to another higher level.
@@thewolfofwallstreet627 Just getting Lebron James out of NBA would help improve it alot I think. I still optimistic that someone will eventually rise up and bring at least some better balance to NBA once lebron's gone.
@@thewolfofwallstreet627 For you to think a 6'8" 260 lb player, whose much bigger and stronger compared to MJ, would get put in the hospital, shows you can't get taken seriously.
Even though Laimbeer was a total hack he actually was, for the time a standard type of player a team had to have to win. You needed that enforcer/bodyguard/thug to bring the pain! This is THE element missing in todays game. Also those clips of Jordan are amazing! Kids who didn't have the chance to see him play just don't understand how special he was! Another great video brother. Thanks.
Remember, Laimbeer was an all-star in 1984, 1985 and 1987 and as the team got better he sacrificed his own stats to play a better role in winning, as did Isiah Thomas and Mark Aguirre gave up a Hall of Fame career to enable the Pistons to win titles when he gave up his minutes and time to Rodman in the 1989-90 season as Aguirre came off the bench while the Pistons won back-to-back titles. So those Pistons' teams from 1987-1991 were all about sacrificing for one another to win titles -- too bad the NBA was against them and they contributed to going out on their own terms and even sacrificing their own legacy to enable Jordan to win in 1991.
It wasn't until I was older that I realized what a great player he was. Also Laimbeer really had a mind for the game as you can see from his playing and coaching careers. @@plainsimple244
@@mankivigs1 Well they kept him out of the Hall of Fame due to his image but he was the guy who taught Rodman 'the game' and Laimbeer is the Pistons all-time leading rebounder when he retired ahead of Bob Lanier who is in the HOF...Plus, he was the co-captain and leader of 'The Bad Boys' -- he was the guy who Isiah had to keep everyone in line...Plus what kept him out is he didn't kiss Bird's behind and Jordan threatened to break his neck.... So now he's going to enter into the HOF, he's eligible -- so what changed? You see? So chances are Isiah Thomas spoke up for him and has been for years and Laimbeer has had WNBA success in championships, so he's well-rounded when it comes to greatness in professional basketball.
@plainsimple244 Hopefully he never gets into the hall of fame. He was a dirty player who tried to hurt players and that has no place in the hall. On behalf of every Bulls fan on the planet. Good riddance.
Why wouldnt the Pistons be so bitter? They were the back-to-back champs. Strong. Healthy. Young. Gunning for a 3-peat. Then got SWEPT - wasnt even a contest by MJ and the Bulls.
He paid the price ...of collecting 2 chips, back to back. After awhile it wasn't enough, but he got his while he could with zero apologies, so props to Bill.
Love the channel and I’m wondering, did refs make bad or terrible calls back in the 80s or awful techs that they call now. Calls are soft these days but just curious if you were also frustrated by the refs calls even back than?
I have zero respect for Bill(LAME)beer. Why they pronounce his name any other way is ridiculous. Because it's just spelled different Bill(LAIM)beer. L(AIM),not LAMB!
4:13 Jordan stands up for himself at the bigger stronger taller Bill Laimbeer for his moving screen and bully tactics. Stark contrast to LeBron getting punked by the shorter, smaller Dillon Brooks this week and laying on the ground for minutes.
They saw MJ as a threat & they were 100% correct the Bulls & MJ in that era but an end to the Pistons & Boston’s runs so you can see why Bill is bitter. 😂
Thanks for the time machine Mr David. Love old skool hoops, especially as an old dawg player myself that played club ball back in the nineties where MJ was my main man, but, I also love Bill L and the bad boy pistons. How could you not, how entertaining was it to see them try to disrupt the GOAT. When playing back in the day with my mates we used to chicken wing all the time baseline sending an offensive attacker to the floor, and then we laughed. Oh I miss the game and would love contemporary ball to bring back hand checking and the beautiful physicality of the game. You know, body to body in your face dunks because today you beat your man off the pick and it's an open driving lane with no stoppers. Today's game needs to toughen up. And what's happened to smack talking, gee, you look at a player with the death stare and it's a tech. Dang, bring the pros back to street level please Mr Silver
How ridiculous is MJ's take off spot when going to the hole. My golly he plants his feet at high post on the line if not one foot outside the paint. Not a metre or so inside. Sorry LB you're the king but still to this day Ive never seen a player take off from so far out and yoke it whilst getting hit. Come on everyone is this cat not the goat. Don't worry bout numbers, numbers help but just look at the individual plays. Look at the individual plays, you hooper's know this. It's when you make a crushing play that you and everyone goes, dang what happened. Jordan made punters, commentators and players pull their hair out, saying, I gotta see that again.
I agree with u, why do people provoke MJ, and think that he won't do anything about it. Its like playing with death or fire, or a chihuahua trying to fight a pitbull.
Larry Bird's way of owning Laimbeer: an eye for an eye as Bird leaves a foot right in the landing area of Laimbeer Jordan's way: owns the Pistons so hard they fall into irrelevancy 🤣
Well when you're driven by this type of unity.....you will listen to poor advice that you're given. I don't even know how it's possible to be apart of stuff like this.
Great video. What would still eat away at Laimbeer is these sorts of things are what MJ used to be better and improve to become the GOAT so thankyou Bill for your contribution to moulding Air Jordan into the greatest with 4 more rings than you.
If it wasn't for the numerous cheap shots Laimbeer took on opposing players he would be remembered as a solid member of a great team that won a couple of championships. Like Bird said though he was trying to hurt players out there and that's unacceptable. There's nothing wrong with a hard, fair foul. That happens in basketball, especially in the postseason. When you're tackling people though like it's the NFL that's when you draw the line. He was a thug and should be remembered as one.
I think we should all take a moment and humbly Thank the Bad Boy Pistons. The Pistons built Michael Jordan in which there's no other scenario that provided a testing ground for building sheer steel will, determination and absurd mental and physical toughness. If Lebron had a similar adversary maybe he could've legetimately challenged the title for GOAT. But as is LBJ is barely top 10 and that's being generous and possibly insulting to great players who accomplished more with less.
Bill Laimbeer wasn't a basketball player proven by his zero scoring and assists. He was a hack attack brute that was allowed to be a full out brawler. I remember the early days Charles Oakley would give Laimbeer the same treatment and Laimbeer cried like a little bitch.
Isaha did say that while they did have Jordan rules, they also has Bird, Magic, Kareem rules, they were a defensive team. So the rules were tailored for him, but they had rules for others as well.
You left out the part about Jordan crying to stern about the physical play of the pistons so stern changed some rules. Notice Magic and Bird didn't run to the commissioner they manned up. Mad respect for them
Neither did Wilt or Kareem. Can you imagine Wilt Chamberlain going to the Commissioner basically begging him to break up the Celtics? Or Kareem Abdul-Jabbar crying and whining to Larry O'Brian to break up the late '70s Seattle SuperSonics? They'd be ridiculed as crybabies.
I’m the weird kid who couldn’t pick a favorite team in the ‘80’s and ‘90’s because the league was so filled with so many fascinating characters - Jordan, Bird, Magic, Kareem, Dominique, Isaiah, Malone, Stockton, and on and on. Such a fantastic product. But I HATED Laimbeer. Players like that hurt the game. But on another note, self proclaimed ’king’ James killed the game.
Unrelated: The WNBA is so unpopular that I had no idea that not only is Bill Lambeer a WNBA coach, but a three time WNBA Champion coach. Shame that talent couldn't be used in a real professional league, due to him burning all of his bridges as an asshole.
I think there was an air of jealousy from Laimbeer. Here's a guy who was not a naturally gifted athlete when it comes to basketball, and had to fashion himself as a basketball role-player. So for MJ to be doing the things he did, kind of made Laimbeer take the bully approach to 'beat' him.
He wasn't jealous of Larry Bird. Jordan was the one jealous of the Pistons' success...Until crying and whining to David Stern brought him some of his own.
So you say tried. It’s obvious that certain folks have not watched the Pistons pay the Bulls when Jordan came into the league. You just might want to go look at what Bill and the guys did to Jordan.
Here's a fun fact (why is it called a fun fact) did ya'll know that bill Laimbeer played in the TV show called land of the lost he played a sleestack a monster in the show
Bill Laimbeer was just talking a bunch of BS about Michael Jordan! Publicists and media don't play basketball! They cannot pump him up to a 6-0 perfect record with 6 finals MVPs, 5 MVPs, 3 all-star game MVPs, two dunk championships, a DPOY, a ROY, an NCAA champion, and 2-time Olympic gold medalist! Bill, you ain't got none of that! So, don't be saying stupid stuff like that, because guys like Michael Jordan promote a healthy lifestyle!
When you say you don't know why people provoked mike you're thinking from the present day..but back then especially the pistons wasn't scared of Jordan because they had consistently beaten him...
I am totally onboard with the school of thought that's out there that these nasty, brutal, dirty Pistons, unbeknownst to them, forced Jordan to take his game to another level. So ha ha, Pistons, look what you created. The joke's on you all! 🤣
Typical Laimbeer fight at 4:16. Laimbeer takes a cheap shot to start something, his teammates rush in to hold back whoever he hit, and Laimbeer runs backwards to get out of reach.
Wait, did I see this correctly? Not only did they blow the call on Laimbeer fouling Jordan, but did Jordan travel with the ref right there in the background? Thats two blown calls!!! C’mon refs!!! lol
The flipside to the abuse Michael had to take was he got into the weight-room. When Michael came into the NBA he was very skinny. He was Air Jordan and nothing more.
If you do the history under Detroit Pistons, how come they team fell apart after losing to Michael Jordan? And the bulls him and Isaiah Thomas gotten to a fight. Thomas punched him in the face and broke his hand after that the team fell apart A bully can never accept defeat
Wrong. Many players on the team were messing around with Rodman's wife. Remember when Rodman was found parked alone,outside the Palace with a shotgun ? Rodman soon was traded to San Antonio. Next thing you know,Rodman is dating Madonna. Madonna turned him out. Rodman was party animal after Madonna.
Every time LeBron fans bring up Pippen, I shake my head. Just like LeBron and every superstars in history, Jordan needed help. Jordan didn’t need Pippen to win. He needed HELP to win. The help just came in the form of Pippen.
If anyone can use their eyes. How many “hard fouls” do you see in this video, honestly. Zeke jumps and grabs the ball with two hands, all the plays with Laimbeer were not hard fouls; although, he did push him once. The only dirty play was his friend Dennis Rodman pushing him to the ground, but he’s the savior, so don’t hurt him, but the entire league is good. The 92 story is a great exaggeration because DET wasn’t the same team by that point.
