@@joanneaugust6611I'm passionate about music, doesn't mean I'm ever going to be able to sing though. It's all about talent. Being passionate about it is a motivator to become talented. So stop being pedantic.
@@LiamLewyShepherd Talent is defined as naturally given, skill is worked for. That's why I argue against Billy Elliot being very talented. He develops SKILLS because of his passion. You may call me pedantic, I call this a normal debate. There's a total and complete lack of talent or early education which makes it impossible to become truly good at something. For everyone else, things can be learned. That includes people with an average or below average talent. Billy Elliot is not the story of a prodigy, it's the story of someone fighting for their passion. I'm not pedantic, this is an important distinction. Why? Because people see a six-year-old with great piano skills and think "oh, this raw talent just dropped on this kid". No. All skills are LEARNED. Talent just means being able to do that a little faster. But this overly romanticised worldview discredits the tons of work the "talented" people put in every day to stay ahead of the curve. The point is simple: Hard work and determination are much, much, much more important than natural talent. By the way: With a proper musical education during the early childhood, people usually don't actually become tone-deaf in the first place. That means a lack of talent is really a lack of education. Families that sing together don't really have children that can't sing. So you might never be able to do this because you're grown and missed your chances, but every goal can be worked towards. I simply and plainly detest the notion of a lack of talent being a hindrance or a lot of talent doing the work for you. No. You can learn whatever you want and you may need ages for it or a shorter while. And yes, at fourty-something the train for many things has passed. But at Billy's age? If he had a passion for ice hockey or playing the drums, he could have done the same.
@@joanneaugust6611 I'm so sorry. My own personal talent is procrastination, and as a result I can't be arsed to read all of that. So I'm just going to reply with.. "👍"
This was the 'audition' of Billy's life. The one that finally got his dad on his side. The real audition at the ballet academy was a piece of cake compared to this!
Hermosa película!!!! Lloré con el padre cuando rompió el piano, cuando rompe la huelga, cuando lo ve irse en ómnibus y cuando lo ve bailar en el final!!!!!
My life was the opposite - my Dad was a printer and owner of a printing company. All I wanted to do was study science. My Dad thought this was unacceptable. Still, I went to university and got a science degree 😊
@@sebastianchicazapata4519 because it was 1980s working class Britain and he had the awareness that it would send the dad under and he was already totally thrown by the dancing, in the end we see Billy’s dad is accepting and Michael lives freely and openly - it makes sense to the time and it’s just funny
The thing is, the father didn't know how good his son was, he thought he was just spinning around in a circle or ball dancing with boys. It doesn't take a dance expert to know what Billy did was incredible. Just a few seconds onto this dance he realises his son has a god given talent for moving. Not dancing. Just moving.
How is it "underrated"? This film won countless awards including a BAFTA (Britain's Oscars) for best film and Jamie Bell won for best actor (the youngest Winner ever.) It also scored several Oscar nominations, and it was also turned into a hit Broadway musical.
Film social à l’anglaise, drôle, émouvant, touchant, d’une justesse absolue et si bien tourné, jamais dans les clichés, ce film est une merveille absolue. Le cinéma anglais dans toute sa perfection. 👍👍👍👍👍 from 🐸
I got this movie because I told my parents to come home with a new dvd. I looked at the cover I was like what BS is this 😂 I’m glad this is how I found this movie
Phenomenon Jamie Bell movie ever. One of my favorite movies of Jamie Bell's (like Rocketman for instance). Also, the Dancing with Dad is one of my favorite scene in that movie. Also, I would recommend the new Babylon movie with Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie if you can upload it, along with Backdraft with William Baldwin and Kurt Russell, The Shining with Jack Nicholson, Stone Cold with Brian Bosworth, the first two Back to the Future movies with Michael J. Fox, Black Rain with Michael Douglas and Andy Garcia, Terry Gilliam's Brazil, and Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves with Kevin Costner.
This is a beautiful scene, no words needed, just the music and Billy's dance. Some of the shots were referenced to past dancing movies such as Footloose and Flashdance (I'm pretty sure there's more, please comment them)
@@Pinkpanda73 if you liked this movie, you should watch " Les Choristes " it's a french movie who's kind of our equivalent of " Billy Elliot " mixed with " Dead poets society "
THE 'AWAKENING' SUCH SUCH A BRILLIANT FILM ... MY FATHER DID NOT TALK A LOT. HE DID WHEN HE HAD SOMETHING TO SAY. SO THIS REMINDS ME OF HIM. I SAT WITH HIM AFTER MY MOTHER DIED AND MY BOYS HAD TO GET ALONG FOR A BIT. THEN, THEN HE TALKED! MY 'SILENT O'MILES' AS I NICKNAMED HIM!
The dad is the real hero of the story. He sacrificed his reputation so that his son could have a future, even though he didn't even like his son's career choice.
😊I love it, when you have something inside you it has to live to be expressed I was put into jobs I hate I do them but I never be good at them cause I hate them I wanted to dance 😊😅 to move to explore to learn new languages to do psychology I was cut from dance to do management😂 I never enjoy my pay and my job😂😂 but I went dancing for free every day🎉😊I was happy as an 🐘
This music doesn't have a name, a few years ago it was called "Billy Elliot score by Stephen Warbeck" on RU-vid, now you can find it as "Billy Elliot gym scene score".
@@jolie_julie5599 This music doesn't have a name, a few years ago it was called "Billy Elliot score by Stephen Warbeck" on RU-vid, now you can find it as "Billy Elliot gym scene score".
This movie was filmed in 1999/2000. Tom Holland must have been a toddler, while Jamie Bell is a few years older. But I too think Holland eventually played the part on stage
the point isn't for him to dance what is considered "well", it's simply to dance at all. the act of dancing itself is revolutionary and freeing for billy. he can always be taught, but the love and freedom he finds in dancing is what's vital. he was finally showing his father who he his and what he loves.
he had great form, just some rough edges, but he was in the heat of the moment, it was a moment of passion and freedom. as the teacher says, it isn't about how good you are, because thats what the ballet school teaches you, its about how you *move*
the point isn't for him to be a perfect dancer (after all his main goal in the second half is to go to ballet school), the point is that it's something he's passionate about, that he has been practicing in secret (even if he's not the best at it, those moves a random boy that has never done ballet can't do easily) and that he's talented at it. when his dad sees that he understands why billy could become a professional if he went to school
wow... im sorry billy. im sorry billys dad. im sorry everyone, im sorry we all had to see this. ill never get this two minutes back. the ending where billy yells stop and his dad keeps running is absolutely hilarious though.
