Uh the game actually does end. I give it four stars out a possible 13 different commendations. Please someone make me a cool background for this stupid new youtube layout D: !
@@UnderGun81 Haha. When did you play it? It seems like the hype when it came out was pretty extensive. One can make a case that the game underdelivered on gameplay mechanics. The atmosphere and world setting is great though, as long as you judge it as a game, not so much a literary work of art.
Potatoking Gaming And thus, we reach the final conclusion that you can't write a story about infinite universe theory because nobody knows enough about it to make a consistent story.
well that's what the post-credits scene was implying. There are universes where Booker never gambled and was woken up from Anna's crying. Meaning, he never gave Anna up. He never met Comstock. He just lived life with his daughter, Anna. The end. Edit: emphasis on the "never gambled" part. Gambling is a choice.
Spiffy I thought that post credit scene implied that by killing Booker before baptizing “broke the circle”, and thus all the realities in which Comstock and Columbia where a thing stopped existing, creating a timeline/universe (or fixing his “original” timeline) where Anna was never given to the good ol’ cumsock. But idk all this time and space travel makes everything so complicated bruh, like I’m not sure actual quantum physics works like that, but I don’t know shit about it, so I won’t say a thing.
The Murican Dictator of course... WAIT. HE DID HAVE A DOG, BUT IT WAS TAKEN BY DR. WHATSHISFACE AND SAID "HEY BUDDY WOULD YOU KINDLY SNAP DA PUPPY NECK? And bioshock man said "no" and he snapped it's neck!
Potatoking Gaming No that was Jack when he was a kid. (From the first bioshock if you didn't know) Suchong and Tenenbaum genetically altered him to answer to would you kindly, and they tested it like that. Either way that audio log in the lab was from 1950 or so. Comstock/Booker was long dead.
I remember seeing a video about what BioShock infinite could've been had they not completely scrapped it and changed it to the game that we actually got. The absolute depth that got deleted was incredible and I honestly felt sad - it was the equivalent to 4 or more full games.
@@maxonwolf5841 This is essentially it. I know it’s hard to remember, but at the time, Elizabeth was the best AI ever seen in a video game. The version of the skylines we got was still one of the most technically impressive things we had seen. The graphics were phenomenal, on par with The Last of Us. The game kept getting tweaked and reworked because of technical restraints of the hardware at the time. When technical stuff that tied to the story had to be changed, certain parts of the narrative had to be reworked as well. It was a nightmarish development. The same happened with the original BioShock, but not to the same extent. Really interesting. I still absolutely loved this game, but I’ll always be left wondering what might have been had they shot for a release on Gen-8 consoles.
dunkey's time warp hypothesis: "if you go through a quantum inverted vortex at the degree angle discussed in the inverted theorem, then you will reverse the reality of all subsequent time warps leaving the future of each temporal rift in the state of particle protostatic nebulization"
Infinite was the first Bioshock game I ever tried. I understood the story perfectly the first time I played, it actually stuck with me and became one of the best experiences I've had in a video game. I never understood the hate to be honest. I think people just don't like change, lol.
Benassiesto false. if they were then the Macho Man would sure suplex every version of Elizabeth without so much as breaking a sweat. also, he defies multiverse theory. there is only one Macho Man in existence at a time.
i like how every time i thought i watched all of dunkey's videos, there's always an old dunkey video i havent watched before just popping up in my recommended
oh jeez, here goes, I'll try my best. (SPOILERS FOR ANYONE WHO HASN'T PLAYED IT) Booker Dewitt fought in the American Civil War at the Battle of Wounded Knee where he committed war crimes and was sent into a state of depression. After this battle, he made one of two choices, continue down his path of depression where he would father a child and a huge debt, or get baptised and cleansed of his sins (if he did this he became Comstock). As you know, Comstock somehow met the Lutece twins who designed and built Columbia where he became the cities leader and dictator (he had also been experimenting with them in inter-dimensional travel. This city was for the prestigious white people only and workers (black people) were sent to live in the slums.(That's what sparked the Civil War a.k.a Daisy Fitzroy's revolution). Life was great in Columbia expcept that Comstck could not father a child/heir as he became sterile due to the experimentation with portals and stuff (tears). The Lutece twins convinced Comstock of another way in which to obtain a child. He would have to Steal one from his alternate self in another reality (Booker Dewitt). Ultimately Booker sold his infant daughter to the Lutence twins in exchange for his debt. Comstock brought this baby girl back to Columbia where his wife accused him of fathering the child to madame lutece and she took her own life. Comstock locked the girl in the tower and experimented on her and her new found ability to open tears, Probably since she left her little finger in the other dimension she is in two dimension at once, or something. anyway, song bird was built to look after and protect her no matter what. Comstock knew that one day Booker would come looking for his daughter and conviced the whole city to hate him as he was going to mislead the 'lamb'. The Lutece twins approached booker, drugged him or knocked him out or something, brought him to the 'Columbia dimensions lighthouse' where the game begins. At the end of the game, after booker kills comstock, it is said that there will always be other comstocks in other dimensions. So booker wants to find a tear that will take him back to wen comstock was born and kill him in his crib so he wouldn't be able to do what he did. Elizabeth takes him to the place where he was baptised and drowns him as that is the place where comstock was esentially born. We don't knw if this actually worked however as we dont know if all the elizabeths from all the dimesnions disappeared. Holy shit that was long, let me know if i missed anything out.
So just a head's up: RU-vid recommended Creedence Clearwater Revival - Long as I Can See the Light to me while watching this and I can only assume this is due to the dimensional rift through that tear 2:14
They drown him because Comstock was created when he accepted the baptism and Booker was created when he refused. If he is drowned at the baptism then none of this ever happens. It was the only way to stop what happened to Elizabeth.
***** Philip Brain probably knows that. personally, i'm glad he explained so i don't have to look up the ending to know why they killed you at the end.
By the very logic that the game uses to present the nature of the ending to the player it wouldn't even matter if Booker is drowned because there are an infinite number of different universes. So then why is this one version of Booker drowning the key to getting rid of all of the Comstocks? Because the game just tells you that Booker is the beginning of everything, even though that doesn't really make any sense because, again, there are an infinite number of different universes. The game chooses its own set of rules that don't have to adhere to any consistent mechanism because of how conveniently fictional time travel and alternate dimensions are.
Because the theory they use is a common one. These different universes are created when there is a possibility of different outcomes. A new universe is created for each possible outcome. However, if Booker died before he had the possibility of the baptism then no universes are created where he either does get baptized or doesn't. The creation of new universes from Booker stops. Archonus
Philip Brain but there's always the infinite other universes where he doesn't get drowned by 7 Elizabeths, and lives on as Comstock. That's why the Elizabeths' attempts are futile, or the game adheres to inconsistent rules.
I will say that although I agree with Donkey's criticisms, I still enjoyed the game quite a lot, especially because of Columbia, which feels like what Rapture would've been before it all started to break apart: A city of wonders, beauty and where there are no gods or kings, only MAN, a city where there are no limits to what man can achieve, but behind that surface perfection, lies also the horrors that come of man: lies, corruption, egoism, jealousy and pride, among many others, themes which are explored throughout the game in a very satisfying way, at least for me. And although the developers clearly couldn't tie up Bioshock Infinite to previous titles, it still was a fun and emotional ride, and I believe a bad ending shouldn't keep you from an overall enjoyable experience, so after this I tell you: try it out yourself, you probably won't regret it. (Not saying that this game is in any way superior to previous Bioshock games or that this is a masterpiece, just that although quite flawed on some aspects, it's still a very fun and enjoyable game with some good gameplay, characters, and storytelling minus the bollocks ending).
I do think it's really cool that they went with a new idea for the new Bioshock. It would've been a bit hard to pull an original story out of Rapture again. But the ending did really seem a bit half-assed.
they came up with the ending first, then made the story. then when they actually created the ending, they went back and tweaked parts of the game to make it a bit more fulfilling. sweet, right? this is my favorite single player game of all time, partly because of the ending :)
That is pretty cool, actually! I always have a hard time wrapping my head around time travel, so maybe that's why the ending seemed a bit unsatisfying to me. Other than that, I really love this game, as well as the first two. The first is one of my favorite games ever.
+Mary McGinnis By the game's own fucking logic killing booker would do nothing, as there are still infinite numbers of realities where he doesnt die, the girl who knows all about time and dimensions knows jack shit about time and dimensions. This shit is like fucking bad doctor who fanfiction, where they just repeat concepts theyve heard of without actually understanding them.
+mike mikeson actually if you played the game in all other realities Booker DeWitt room the baptism and became Comstock, hence why throughout the game your nose bled, you were in a different reality. By killing Booker DeWitt, Anna was never given to Comstock which means that Elizabeth was never born and Comstock never existed they explained fairly well
But she does exist. And the fact that she exists in an objective reality can't just be explained away. When they opened an "Endless bunch of realities, all with slightly different aspects' they fucked everything up. The story can no longer be coherent, and your choices in this reality don't matter because in a different reality something different happened. The only thing that changes is the reality where booker dewitt was killed by Elizabeth.
Basic time travel rule #8: If your daughter kills you before she was born, she would have never been born, so she would never have killed you, leaving you completely unharmed.
This whole game you're kicking ass and taking names but when 2 teenage girls grab your arms and push your head underwater, THEN you fucking die. Right.
tfw youtube people try to tell me i dont know what im talking about already made the point, just because you don't recognize it doesn't mean it isn't there already said drown, look literally two comments above
+Nathaniel Maloy Robert is Rosalind's male counterpart from a different universe. When Rosalind was first experimenting with alternate realities, she met Robert, and they communicated via Morse code. Eventually, they figured out how to make "tears" and Rosalind brought Robert over to her dimension. The machine they made is eventually used by Comstock and blah blah blah the story happens.
They're not twins, they're the same person from two separate realities and they tell people they're twins because, in their mind, "fuck you, that's why."
This is one of those games that everyone loves because it sounds smart, but when you think about it literally ever at all it makes no fucking sense. It's the Inception of games.
***** So to address your third issue, the only reasons the Comstocks are Comstocks is because of the baptism. There was no other indication that he'd be Comstock another way. At least give an example as to how he could've been Comstock another way. How does it create a time paradox? By saying that if Booker dies, Elizabeth would've never left or existed? Only answer I have to that is that's why she disappears. For your first point, I don't think there'd be any reason as to why she wouldn't, the events of the story would've have to be drastically different. Ultimately though whether I'm right or not, I think the fact that BioShock Infinite is at least incredibly competent and it gets rid of most of its plot holes is something to commend.
