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Bishop Barron on Papal Infallibility

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This is an exclusive preview clip from Fr. Barron's (WordOnFire.org) highly anticipated project, CATHOLICISM.
Here Fr. Barron speaks to one of the most commonly misunderstood dimensions of the Catholic Church: Papal Infallibility.
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@BishopBarron 11 лет назад

Well, Jesus used the metaphor of keys.

@BishopBarron 11 лет назад

Friend, I find this post really puzzling. Analogies are helpful, it seems to me, precisely to those who are not in the choir. They are an attempt to build a bridge between the known and the unknown. I don't know what you think is "simplistic" about the analogies I'm using in this video.

@thecatatemyface24 8 лет назад

Doing Theology as a degree and really struggled to understand this topic as I am not Catholic. Out of all my lectures you were the only person who made it simple enough for me to understand. THANK YOU! I will be citing you in my essay. Thanks again

@carlottaohara7668 4 года назад

I wish I’d had this clear insightful explanation of Papal infallibility for my Episcopalian Mother who questioned that doctrine.

@BishopBarron 11 лет назад

That is such nonsense! Teachers and scholars use analogies all the time in the "modern" world. Have you ever heard of the "Big Bang," or of the "charm" and "spin" of quarks, or of the "fiscal cliff" or "the inner child?"

@sksk1995 12 лет назад

@hepatitis Thankyou for taking the time to research this video, your responses have helped me greatly x

@johnbeer4249 11 лет назад

John 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. John 16:3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.

@ewaldradavich7307 6 лет назад

No man is infallible. Only God is infallible.

@tomgreene8480 9 лет назад

St Paul saw ''through a glass darkly''...a truly humble statement ...a bit more might not go amiss.

@MatthewWarner 12 лет назад

Everything about Christianity involves an extraordinary claim. And I do believe there is an extraordinary amount of evidence. And I never implied that anything was "so" simply because I believed it. I believe it because I'm more sure of it than any alternative. I believe it to be so because it is so. Not the other way around.

@fhatee 12 лет назад

Beautiful!!!!!Amazing Thank you Fr Barron

@MatthewWarner 12 лет назад

@roxykattx Clearly it's not meant to be an entire case for the teaching. I don't agree that that's the argument Fr. Barron is making here, though. Either way, you should check out the following if you'd like to learn more about the Church's teaching on Papal Infallibility: catholic[dot]com/tracts/papal-infallibility (u will have to replace the [dot] obviously)

@MatthewWarner 12 лет назад

@brineted1010 I'm not sure what makes you think I don't know that. I understand what ex-cathedra is and when the Pope speaks infallibly. But you said that there are ex cathedra statements that were "changed by others in history." That is absolutely untrue.

@olawalemassive354 6 лет назад

Why did Peter sin if he was the Vicar of Christ? Why was James the head of the church in Jerusalem and not Peter if Peter was the Vicar of Christ? Why did Paul write most of the New Testament and not Peter? Shouldn’t the “Holy See” have done that? Through the Apostle Paul, the Holy Spirit established the doctrine of the church as outlined in Acts, 1 Timothy and Titus. Paul even defined the order of church government and the qualifications and responsibilities of church leaders (Acts 6:1-6; Acts 20:1-32; 1 Tim. 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-9). The New Testament tells us that Paul, not Peter, selected and established the early churches and their spiritual leadership (Acts 14:23; Acts 15:2; Titus 1:5). And why did Peter have difficulty understanding Paul’s books if he was the Vicar of Christ? The answer is obvious! We conclude that Peter was not the Vicar of Christ, he was not the lead apostle, and he was not the bishop of Rome. He was the Apostle to the Jews and Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles. The keys of heaven were given not just to Peter but to all of the apostles. Christ is the chief cornerstone, and the prophets and apostle were the foundation.

@johnbeer4249 11 лет назад

So what did Catholic church do? In 325 A.D. at The First Council of Nicaea the Roman Emperor Constantine came up with the Christian doctrine, called the Creed of Nicaea and also created statements of belief and canons of doctrinal orthodoxy- the intent being to define unity of beliefs for the whole of Christendom. This is where your tradition and beliefs came from and how it started. Constantine then blended Pagan traditions with Christians to convert Romans.

@marykfilms 12 лет назад

Orthodox Christians have always believed that it is the Church (with its councils led by the Holy spirit and the reasoned understanding of God fearing and God loving bishops) that is infallible, not any one leader, as was modeled in the first council of Jerusalem. No one leader, no matter how saintly, should ever decide matters of the Faith. Because of this heresy, Catholic doctrine has accumulated some very serious errors.

@MatthewWarner 12 лет назад

All analogies break down at some point. That's all ur highlighting here. The point he's making is not that the umpire is infallible - as u know. But simply that HAVING an arbiter like the ump is what makes play possible. The Church needs the same thing. The Pope doesn't restrict faith or unity, he makes it possible. God knew his Church would need a present, earthly arbiter to remain unified/true. So he gave us that & protected him under rare instances thru the Holy Spirit from teaching error.

@neoknux009 12 лет назад

Oh sorry... I was not trying to show info for infallibility. But i was trying to lay some foundation for the primacy of Rome (and hence Bishop of Rome) over other Churches. However , my two cents, Heretics will always come around, they didnt just exist in the ancient times. (Exactly what Father Barron is trying to say) . So if during the early centuries Churches turned to Rome during confusion, the Catholic Church Continues this tradition.

@thomassalvi Год назад

Perfectly articulated

@kikojoseph4817 9 лет назад

Basically - the key is "occulted" knowledge. Meaning that we can create an institution of power and influence, that will be upheld if we implement occulted (hidden) knowledge and use the ignorance of the uninitiated to uphold this institution.

@JohnAllenSoares 9 лет назад

That doesn't make any sense when you actually pick up a book and look into what the Papacy is all about. I'll agree, the wording in this video is a little confusing, but if you were actually concerned with understanding what the Pope is, you wouldn't make your decision after watching a 4 minute video on youtube. The Pope is infallible in certain contexts. Not every context. This is, I find, the most common misconception about Papal infallibility. The Pope cannot expound new revelations, nor do we believe that Jesus talks to him on some personal level on which he does not talk to the rest of us, nor do we believe that a Pope is allowed to contradict Tradition, Scripture and Magisterial authority. So, if the Pope walks outside and says something on TV, that is not an infallible statement, no matter how much the news media wants you to believe that it is. His authority extends, in the most basic sense, only as far as deciding how the truth is to be exercised in real time and even then, it is kept within some pretty strict checks in order to be considered infallible. We know the teachings, but how do we implement them in the present age, how do we carry them out, what are the nuances to how a certain teaching applies to a certain place and a certain time. The Apostles were doing this after Jesus ascended into heaven and the Bishops are still doing it now, with the Office of Peter at their head. This is not some mystical concept in which we believe that God hand picked a man to stand in his place on earth. We simply believe that Jesus left that authority in the hands of Peter as the head of the apostles and that the authority was intended to be handed down to a successor, just as it has been so with all the apostles. We don't think he's a different kind of man or that he's somehow more divine than the rest of us, he's just been given certain authorities through succession. The fact that the Pope cannot change Dogmas ought to tell you that we don't believe that the Pope is universally infallible in everything he does. Nor do we believe that he has "Hidden Knowledge."

@QuisutDeusmpc 11 лет назад

political purposes it served for Constantine, seeing the decadence in morals of the people as the old Roman pantheon of the gods began to serve less and less of an importance in the populace's lives, and as Christianity began to become more and more popular with its beliefs and moral code, he decided to move it from a persecuted religion to officially acceptable. However, although as emperor he could convene the ecumenical council of bishops, it was they who decided the matters before the

@danielnewhouse5044 6 лет назад

If you start with a false premise, whatever you prove is false. There are 2 possible premises for infallibility, that love comes from sin, or that love comes from language. If God believes love comes from sin, then she is fallible. And that is why the body matters more than the mind.

@thomasgleason1638 4 года назад

What do you mean when you say “Papal Infallibility does not mean the Pope is omniscient or immune from bad practical judgment”?

@johntaylor4707 Год назад

Yes I agree, he says praying to Mary is nonsense, I think he is indeed correct.

@neoknux009 12 лет назад

"as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to men, which comes down to our time by means of the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of its preeminent authority, that is, the faithful everywhere, inasmuch as the tradition has been preserved continuously by those [faithful men] who exist everywhere." St. Irenaeus Of Lyons [Against Heresies 3:3:2 (c. A.D. 189)]

@johnbeer4249 11 лет назад

From the early 1st and 2nd Christians we know that that other gospels and letters existed because they were written about. It is said that there was as many as 50 gospels of Christ. However as soon as Jesus died and resurrected cults emerged up that perverted the word and his teaching. Some of these were called Gnostic

@loganprichard1439 5 лет назад

This is circular reasoning.

@QuisutDeusmpc 11 лет назад

Magisterium, those with teaching authority, that is, the bishops who are in communion with the Bishop of Rome). You've got a giant, self-fulfilling persecution complex and a self-righteous self-justifying Jeremiah complex.

@0r14n583lt 2 года назад

We’re experiencing a lot of bickering in 2021. I’ve heard some strange admissions from the current Pope and I’ve seen sacrilegious things. St. Peter’s Cathedral in Rome may even need to be re-consecrated after what has been done there. I pray that our Pope renew his faith in Jesus Christ. In the media, he is demonstrating otherwise.

@dannyneville1310 Год назад

I take it, you're another 'conservative' Catholic. Please focus on the Catholic Social Teaching. Even Pope Bendedict praises Democratic Socialism.

@Eagle027 12 лет назад

Mary as the Church recognizes is a saint, which simply means her soul and as the Church teaches, and body reside in heaven. Nothing more, nothing less

@QuisutDeusmpc 11 лет назад

Straw man argument: your caricature is, in reality, a mischaracterization. Papal infallibility does NOT mean that the Holy Father is prevented from "making mistakes", if by that you mean, he is prevented from improperly balancing his personal checkbook, or that he can predict who will win the World Series or the Kentucky Derby, or that he is prevented from making administrative errors of judgement. Papal infallibility also does NOT mean that when implementing policy related to an issue he

@QuisutDeusmpc 11 лет назад

only and ever does it perfectly and does not fail to omit things that need to be done, or fails to do things that shouldn't be done. Papal infallibility does NOT mean that the Holy Father is incapable of personally sinning in his own life. He is after all only human. What papal infallibility DOES mean is that in certain delimited and well defined ways, when making a pronouncement on the nature of the catholic Faith and morals, he is protected by the Holy Spirit from teaching error.

@johnconstantinegrey7793 5 лет назад

An American Pope would be awesome.

@hepatitis 12 лет назад

@sksk1995 ur welcome just be confident with ur Catholic/Authentic faith because it comes from the Apostles themselves & God cannot deceive nor be deceived we have to trust Him because He is our Father & Christ is our Head: we belong to His Body- the Catholic Church.

@JeffersonDinedAlone 11 лет назад

As no human being has the capacity to determine anything at all regarding spiritual matters, how could "peer review" by other human beings hold any relevance?

@MatthewWarner 11 лет назад

The Catholic Church is the organization that set the canon of the New Testament, preserved it and is the reason it is even possible for you to read it today. Even Protestant scholars admit this. Nothing in Catholic teaching contradicts scripture when that scripture is interpreted properly and understood within the context from which it was written and used.

@andrewturnbull4434 8 лет назад

I love so much how there are people here who appear to be here with sole reason of attempting to discredit idea of Infallibility and in turn, the Catholic Church. I must ask...why? The Magisterium and Papal Infallibility cannot be perfectly explained here in a short clip. If Pope JP2 believed in 1 thing and Benedict another is redundant as they are not explicitly articulating Church Teaching. So go back to one of your 35000 different protestant denominations, all saying they are the True Church. I'm going to stick to the one with 2000 years of history.

@andrewturnbull4434 7 лет назад

The Catholic Church claims a direct descent from Jesus from the Apostles. Protestant Churches that separated try and make that are doing so under some false pretence. If you are here simply to cause problems, pick a fight etc then please take your complaints somewhere.

@baoduong2203 7 лет назад

Andrew Turnbull I am curious about your thoughts on the Orthodox Church. Orthodox Christians will claim and they are the one true church of catholic. The original church, in which the Catholic Church branched off at 1054.

@andrewturnbull4434 7 лет назад

If all you are trying to do is engage in a conversation in which the evidence clearly exists why ask me then? I make these claims exactly on that history, history you can look up yourself. So start there. All you want to do is throw it on me and take no responsibility for looking up things yourself so try starting there.

@baoduong2203 7 лет назад

Well I have been researching between the orthodox faith and the Roman Catholic faith. And its been a struggle for me to determine which of the two are the faiths should I practice. As a human, I know that I should never always depend on myself on certain matter, which is why I asked for your opinion. To be able to hear from another perspective. To see if I am missing something that I never thought about. I'll guess its a good thing that I am speaking with a RCIA to hear their perspective. I wanted to hear your perspective since you are a practicing Roman Catholic, who seems to know a lot about his faith.

@loganspence1147 6 лет назад

the only infallibility is found in God, trust no man to tell you he knows only trust Jesus and then you know

@marykfilms 12 лет назад

The doctrinal change that the Holy Spirit proceeds from both the Father and the Son has made this third person of the Trinity seriously demeaned in stature. The top down 'infallible' polity of the Catholic Church reflects this changed Catholic understanding of the Trinity: the laity is demeaned and powerless and has been therefore subject to much abuse. Orthodox laity are part of the holy orders and are highly valued as watchdogs of the faith, quick to point out heresies and missteps.

@MatthewWarner 11 лет назад

John, according to the first chapter of the book of the Bible that you are named after, the "Word" is Jesus. The Word was made flesh. The Bible is one particular (and essential and completely important) part of Jesus' teaching that happened to be written down. But was not all that Jesus taught, nor all he instructed us to follow. In fact, the Bible itself says to not only follow what has been written, but those Traditions passed by word of mouth from Jesus/Apostles.

@hepatitis 12 лет назад

@sksk1995 I am a nurse & as i read the document (& saws the video) regarding her supposedly being dead for almost a day i found it ridiculous. why? 1) they did not bother to bring her to the hospital to CONFIRM- through an ECG/EKG as done by a competent physician- her health status.

@JeffersonDinedAlone 11 лет назад

Those are not analogies; analogies are comparisons. Those are simply descriptive phrases.

@neoknux009 12 лет назад

" it would be very tedious, in such a volume as this, to reckon up the successions of all the Churches, we do put to confusion all those who, in whatever manner, whether by an evil self-pleasing, by vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion, assemble in unauthorized meetings; [we do this] by indicating that tradition derived from the apostles, of the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul; "

@JoeJackaboa 12 лет назад

Veni creator spiritu... Mentes tuorum visitas... imple superna gracia... Yup, that song was being played on the violin!

@FaithandReason101 12 лет назад

the teaching of pope's infallibility (and those magisterium teaching in unity with Him), when teaching on faith and morals, existed long before the 1870s. often the catholic church officially states things as doctrines, that have long been believed, only when the need becomes great. Luke10:16 and mathew18:18 already give evidence to this truth. we see peter in john21:15-17 receiving a special designation over the church. finally, history itself shows that this charism has been upheld.

@sksk1995 13 лет назад

Father, i am a catholic who has recently watched angelica zambranos testimony... would you watch that and tell me what you think ? maybe even do a video on it ...

@FaithandReason101 11 лет назад

the bible was written by men; but that doesnt mean they werent inspired by the Holy Spirit; that is what has made all the difference.

@anthonybailey1407 11 лет назад

Catholics believe that on essenital matters of faith and morals, the Chuch is Infallible. Infalibility refers to the belief that a certain teaching is free from error. The bishops as a group in union with the pope tech infallibly when they make a solem declaration concerning a mater of belief or morality. The pope, as Peter's successor, is said to be infallible when he teaches Ex Cathedra, that is, under the following condtions: When he teaches as th visible head of the Church To all Catholics

@tomgreene8480 8 лет назад

This ''definition'' of infallibility is a bit wide.....a lot is being wheeled in here....authority and infallibility are not the same thing.

@QuisutDeusmpc 8 лет назад

+Tom Greene Compare and contrast Numbers 27: 12-23 & Deuteronomy 34: 9 to Jesus Christ's statements regarding the same "Spirit of truth" (to YHWH's statement regarding the "Spirit of wisdom") guaranteed to the Apostle's as Jesus Christ's successors (cf. e. g. John 14: 26; John 15: 26; John 16: 13) and witness after the Ascension (cf. e. g. Matthew 16: 18, 19; Matthew 18: 18; John 20: 15-19).

@tomgreene8480 8 лет назад

Thanks for comment.

@QuisutDeusmpc 8 лет назад

Tom Greene You're welcome. As a former Protestant turned 'Johnny-come-lately' Catholic, I struggled with issues regarding the nature of the episcopate, the Petrine primacy / supremacy, papal infallibility. I spent the better part of two years investigating, studying, and praying in regards to these and corollary issues. There are some really good resources available such as Steve Ray's "Upon This Rock: St. Peter and the Primacy of Rome in Scripture and the Early Church"; Scott Butler's "Jesus, Peter, and the Keys: A Scriptural Handbook on the Papacy"; Paul McPartlan's "A Service of Love: Papal Primacy, the Eucharist, and Church Unity"; St. John Paul II's "Ut Unum Sint".

@tomgreene8480 8 лет назад

Thank you for reply.

@TheTruthgeneral 10 лет назад

every organized church has a system of authority that decides on doctrine and that is binding on the church members there is no need for anything resembling a Pope to maintain stability and consistency in the interpretation of scripture

@tanishalavri3278 10 лет назад

Your statement is self-contradictory.

@MatthewWarner 12 лет назад

@brineted1010 Additionally, it seems that you believe the ONLY things Catholics have to believe and are infallible teachings of the Church are ex cathedra statements. This is incorrect. "All those things are to be believed with divine and Catholic faith which are contained in the Word of God, written or handed down, and which the Church, either by a solemn judgment or by her ordinary and universal teaching [magisterium], proposes for belief as having been divinely revealed." - Vatican Council

@TimotheosCauvin 8 лет назад

But now you have an umpire who says "Who am I to judge" and who seems willing to delegate major decisions to the teams on the field. So, when the Germans cheer "Goal!", and the Polish scream "Offside!" what will be done? Different results in different countries?

@michaelw2838 8 лет назад

+TimotheosCauvin The best thing that happen in the latest Synod. Liberal Bishops exposed themselves.

@Shizz2333 8 лет назад

That was put deeply out of context. Check out Barron's video about that.

@hepatitis 12 лет назад

@sksk1995 2) psychologically speaking for a child to grow up from a rigid religious formation, she is likely to CREATE visions from her mental construct which is already very much influenced by her religion. this is based on the social cognitive theory of Albert Bandura (that environment, other people, experiences= affect our learning or mental construct & ultimately our attitude & vice versa).

@hepatitis 12 лет назад

@sksk1995 5) So many people have claimed seeing God or having a near death experience so to speak & most of them claim a different experience to this wonderful girl Angelica. There are those priests who claimed to have seen purgatory, heaven & hell, there are also other non-catholics who have claimed to see the virgin Mary greeted her. What makes this particular claim especial when it by itself is also contrary to the Bible?

@vasilyjc1955 12 лет назад

This all good but this dogma of papal infallibility was never in the early church. It became a dogma in 1870, at the 1st Vatican Council, and with the help of the ultramontanism movement within the Latin church. The early church was based on a college of bishops, a local synod. There existed no central bishop who had complete authority over the entire church.

@oracawa 4 года назад

The keys to the kingdom of heaven was the statement that Peter made, “you are the Christ the son of the living God.”this is the keys to heaven. This includes all who understand and believe this.

@1sola1verita 11 лет назад

Excellent video, a difficult topic well-explained. thanks

@seanynut1994 11 лет назад

Jesus spoke in Parables not to patronize but to put across his point. With Fr Barron he uses such analogies as an effective method to put a point across. Take it from me someone who had a speech and language impediment and overcame it by understanding use of language more deeply. It's not patronizing to simplify my friend.

@RehdClouhd 11 лет назад

What makes you think the current Roman Catholic Church is the church with the 'keys'?

@upinsmoke2897 11 лет назад

I love how Papal Infallibility is only on issues of faith and morals. So if I say something that's vague, but reiterates doctrine or dogma I'm infallible. Check it out. Mary was born without sin. I'm infallible! It's vague and in line with Catholic dogma!

@WhiteBraveheart1 11 лет назад

How does the church contradict the Word of God? What is the Word of God? Is it only the Bible? Is it the tradition passed on from the Apostles? Please clarify what you mean -- the Word of God -- what that means, specifically?

@QuisutDeusmpc 11 лет назад

I hope you aren't suggesting that "sin" doesn't exist. I should think that murder, rape, ethnic genocide, the near collapse of the world economy should be enough to prove that "sin" is ubiquitous and therefore universal. "Original sin" refers to the very first sin ever committed, hence the term "original". The point is that sin had a beginning that originates with Satan and man, and is not God's intention or design.

@QuisutDeusmpc 11 лет назад

of something changes the content of its Truth. To be serious about the truth is very biblical. Jesus Himself said, "Sanctify them with the Truth. Thy word is Truth." The gnostic pseudo-Gospels were claiming things that directly contradicted the apostolic faith: Jesus was married, had children, its not about salvation from sin in one's life but about attaining a so-called "higher knowledge" or "gnosis" that only the gnostic teachers were privy to and only the "initiated" were given access.

@JeffersonDinedAlone 11 лет назад

Titles are assigned all of the time; it does not mean that those titles, of themselves, actually have any validity

@ThomWillis 12 лет назад

@theone1087 Did you listen to Fr. Barron's definition of infallibility? It is not the possession of divinity, but authority granted by God, the same authority granted to St. Peter when he proclaimed Christ the messiah. In Matthew 16:17 Jesus said that the truth was not revealed to Peter through material means, but from God the Father. That is the same way it is revealed to the Church today, and will until He returns! God bless you my friend.

@upinsmoke2897 11 лет назад

You're missing my point."Mary being born without sin." Is dogma of the Catholic church. Papal Infallibility "in theory" is only on faith and morals (according to the church). The point I'm getting at is that papal infallibility is set up so that the pope can never say anything against the grain. Not only do I not believe in papal infallibility, but whenever a pope speaks "infallibly" its always some minor rule simply restated. My question is why do they even call it papal infallibility?

@QuisutDeusmpc 11 лет назад

council: namely, the nature of Jesus Christ (was He the preexistent only begotten Son of the Father, of the same substance as Him or a created demi-god below the Father but above the angels; as well as, as secondary as this may seem to us today, fixing the way of calculating the date of Easter, which appeared to be a source of contention at the time - would it be a fixed day every year (which would mean it might fall on Mon, Tue, Wed, Sun, Fri, etc) or would it always be reckoned on a Sunday (

@WhiteBraveheart1 11 лет назад

John, I'm just trying to follow JESUS' example in His view of the Church, for what does Scripture [the Book which I love] say? Eph 5, "Husbands, love your wives, JUST AS CHRIST LOVED THE CHURCH and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless." I love Christ's Church because Christ does. What's wrong with that?

@nastjavk 8 месяцев назад

Nicely articulated .. But i still can't buy it as an orthodox

@JeffersonDinedAlone 11 лет назад

Everyone is born without sin, because "original sin" does not exist. No one is responsible for anyone else's sin, no matter whom or when, and no one inherits anyone else's sin. The premise is absurd. The only sin which anyone is responsible for is their own. And no human being is infallible in any context, including any Pope.

@dan69052 12 лет назад

Polls show that all religions are clearly on the downfall. It is well to ask why this is so.As people begin to think for themselves they see that pompous old irrelevant men marching around in ridiculous customs may not be the best source of meaningful knowledge. Love, compassion, empathy, justice,& reason are the pillars of morality& Humanism. We can figure out right from wrong without a priest rabbi mullah pope or an invisible man in the sky. Religion will fade like all the others. Peace

@lproof8472 2 года назад

Papal infallibility is necessary due to the primacy of Scripture. That Scripture does not support Papal infallibility.

@marykfilms 12 лет назад

Catholics don't need to 'state' that Mary was a goddess. Doesn't not being conceived in the normal way together with not dying automatically make one a 'goddess?' According to Scriptures, only two people never 'died.' It's not that they're never going to die; it's only that their death has been delayed. They will be the 'two witnesses' to come (Revelation). Strange doctrines happen when only one person is in charge of the faith. God bless all devout Catholics.

@marioriospinot 7 лет назад

Nice.

@BostonDeafApostolate 12 лет назад

This would be even better with captions.

@JeffersonDinedAlone 12 лет назад

The pope is an ordinary man, elected to his position by other ordinary men. However, his election is not democratic, which would be the result of every church member having a vote; his election is by a small select group.

@billybagbom 12 лет назад

Can you document Pope Benedict's unbelief in the dogma of papal infallibility?

@PInk77W1 3 года назад

Never heard that. But a popes personal beliefs has nothing to do with his office or his infallibility. The pope can be an atheist or a great sinner But a pope CANT teach error as doctrine

@JeffersonDinedAlone 12 лет назад

Fr. Barron, you stated in reply to me in the comment section of another video that the pope has used the infallibility consideration only twice in the past 2,000 years (your words), and in the course of that reply you did not state as to what those two considerations even entailed. As it is virtually never a consideration, whether someone believes it exists or not, why does it seem to hold such a prevalent distinction for you?

@marykfilms 12 лет назад

Another very serious error in Catholic proclamation of infallible doctrine is the new teaching that the Virgin Mary herself was conceived without sexual congress of her holy parents, Joachim and Anna. There used to even be a Catholic movement afoot to proclaim that Mary never actually died (she would thus be better than Jesus!) For Orthodox, Mary was fully human in conception/death as well as the greatest saint who ever lived, an inspiration for all of us to imitate. She was not a goddess.

@astrol4b 6 лет назад

the immaculate conception doesn't state that mary was born without her parents having sex, it just state that she was born without the original sin, it's not that extraordinary /supernatural statement.

@MatthewWarner 12 лет назад

@brineted1010 What makes u a "true faithful catholic" if u do not accept the dogma of the Catholic Church? This is contradictory. Additionally, it seems like u don't understand papal infallibility, so it's hard to see how you can disagree with something you don't even understand. I'm assuming you didn't mean "ex-cathedral." Also, do you not call your dad your father? The passage also says not to call people "teacher." Do you call anyone teacher? The Church canonized the bible and gave it to us.

@Nicodermus4Life 12 лет назад

The Catholic Church compiled the bible over hundreds of years with Her authority from Christ. Remember the Church came first, then the bible. It didn't just fall from the sky pre-printed and compiled. Christians even were confused about what constituted it. Had it not been for the Catholic Church, no Christian would know what scripture is inspired had it not been assured by the infallibility of the Pope and ecumenical councils that gave it to us. (Or even be able to throw it at us like usual)

@johnplatko8804 11 лет назад

Baseball, and other sports, manage to get along with umpires that DO NOT have the power of infallibility. They make their call and the game goes on. People accept that a bad call from time to time is part of the game. As people and technology improved people found better ways to minimize the effect of the very real fallibility of umpires. They can ask other umpires for an opinion. Today they can even check a replay! Sometimes calls get reversed. And the game is better for it. Food for thought.

@FaithandReason101 11 лет назад

the bible does say in the end, there will be those (you?) who call truth falsehoods...

@hepatitis 12 лет назад

@sksk1995 3) her claims on hell is very LITERAL. actually the pain in hell is not so much of the fire but of the ABSENCE of God Himself. To think that Heaven is in FIRE "for God is love"[1 John 4:8] & "for our God is a consuming fire." [Hebrews 12:29] for these reasons the closest angel to God is the Seraphim which literally means BURNING ONES. To add on this, if God's love is infinite then the if He is absent ETERNALLY upon a person it will be like FIRE of PAIN & separation from GOD.

@hepatitis 12 лет назад

@sksk1995 4) Pope John Paul contrary to her claims has really contributed so much in the elaboration of the SANCTITY of marriage & sex most expressively & impressively elaborated in his Theology of the Body. All his teachings are from the Bible also contrary to what this girl claims again.

@QuisutDeusmpc 11 лет назад

John this bit of unhistorical blather you are bandying about is the hackneyed canard that Protestants attempt to resort to when they cease to understand that the catholic Church's Faith is founded on Jesus Christ and the Apostles. The council of Nicaea was called because a presbyter named Arius who had been preached that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Father, but was a created being in the order of a demi-god (lower than God, but higher than the angels, the first created being) attempting

@Ettoredipugnar 12 лет назад

None of the Patriarchs of the East knew who Jesus is ? St. Peter along with St. Paul was in Antioch first. The Throne of Antioch is called " Twice Blessed ".

@QuisutDeusmpc 11 лет назад

after all since Christ was crucified on Fri and arose on Sunday it would seem appropriate for it to always fall on a Sunday. However, should it track with the Jewish Passover, etc., you get the point). I am willing to be open minded if you will simply refrain from making blanket, sweeping generalizations and present your case. For example, just WHAT "pagan traditions" do you allege Constantine foisted on the bishops and the people "to convert Romans"?

@1sola1verita 11 лет назад

I agree - so don't make any more comments!!!

@roxykattx 12 лет назад

@ohmgrown1991 ??? Read my post again. It does not say anyone has claimed the pope is immune to sin.

@MatthewWarner 12 лет назад

with all due respect, that doesn't make any sense. That you would say that means you have not actually heard what Fr. Barron (or any of the philosophical doctors of the Church) have to say on much of this.

@freedomwarrior7734 8 лет назад

This doctrine contradicts itself. How can a pope be incapable of error in his knowledge of Jesus yet is capable of error in his judgements? Either the pope can never be wrong in any judgements or he can be wrong in any judgements. You can't have both. I understand that a central authority is needed to keep the church together. But to proclaim the pope as infallible borders on cultism.

@DinosaurKale 8 лет назад

The video completely dodged the question of what the term, infallible, means. The closest it came was to say that an authority figure appointed to prevent bickering is infallible. I'm certain no one, Catholic or otherwise, believes that is what it means.

@alexrdy1986 8 лет назад

He is not infallible in every subject, but only in teaching truths about faith and moral formally... not even when he grants an interview or something... It is like Bishop Barron said, when his authority is necessary to keep the game going, when an important truth is to be determined decisively.

@JeffersonDinedAlone 12 лет назад

You are wrong on several points. "Ordinary" and "extraordinary" would depend entirely upon an individual perspective as regards import, and even then, there is no legitimacy in that regard beyond personal opinion; there is no collective, or legitimate, measure for such assignations. Also, the number of people who are involved in any election, regardless of context, has no correlation, whatsoever, to any supposed degree of "ordinariness" or "extraordinariness". It doesn't exist.

@QuisutDeusmpc 11 лет назад

The only thing that is "magical", Eddie, is the alleged "powers" that anime characters are portrayed as having in cartoonish kung-fu moves and the passing of energy balls back and forth in battle. In two thousand years, papal infallibility has been used twice to define two teachings: the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God & the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary body and soul into heaven at her Dormition. It's not magic, it is the Holy Spirit (John 16:13-16).

@llandonross1372 5 лет назад

The Pope is infallible when teaching on faith and morals, not just Ex Cathedra , but whether it is encyclicals or preaching from St. Peter’s he is protected from errors

@maryc331 11 лет назад

You must be very unsure of the validity of your contention if you have to shout in order to make it.

@QuisutDeusmpc 11 лет назад

My point was that your comments showed a decided lack of knowledge regarding "gnosticism" and instead of ranting on using propagandistic vitriol, read something of substance that is vetted by respected authorities in the field instead of some emotional diatribe with no substance.

@roxykattx 12 лет назад

Well, maybe one should not expect too much from a 4 minute video, but the argument here is pretty weak. In effect, Father Barron is saying that it would be awfully nice if the Pope were indeed infallible in matters of the faith, and therefor he must be. As for Matthew 16:18, that is awfully flimsy. And isn't the doctrine of Papal infallibility recent? (i.e. 19th century). Were the popes before then infallible without knowing it?

@augustsoomre4795 Год назад

Jesaja 54:5 Sest sinu Looja on su mees, vägede Issand on tema nimi; sinu lunastaja on Iisraeli Püha, teda nimetatakse kogu maailma Jumalaks. Johannese esimene kiri 5:20 Aga me teame, et Jumala Poeg on tulnud ja andnud meile mõistmise, et me tunneksime ära Tõelise. Ja meie oleme Tõelises, tema Pojas Jeesuses Kristuses. Seesama on tõeline Jumal ja igavene elu. 21 Lapsed, hoiduge ebajumalate eest!

@Pi10sco 12 лет назад

@IDH77 Another sola scriptura guy, huh? For Transubstantiation, see John 6:22-59. For the Pope's authority, Matthew 16:18. The various titles of the Pope, such as Pontifex Maximus, I grant you, are not there because Peter went to Rome after the events narrated in Acts. When all you have is the NT, you ignore the many contemporary accounts of the Apostolic Fathers. They are certainly interesting reading if you want to know more about early Church history. As no doubt any Christian should.

@WorkingCatholic 11 лет назад

"You have replaced the guidance of the living Holy Spirit with opinions of man." No. Who was Jesus speaking to when He spoke those Words from Jn 16? His Apostles--the first representatives of His Church on earth. He also said that he would be with them always, even until the end of time. Did Jesus think his Apostles would live until the end of time? Of course, not. He was speaking to them as representatives (the first bishops) of His Church. The Church is guided to all truth.