Bishop Sheen Predicts Pope Francis back in 1970!

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In episode 186 of The Firing Line with William F. Buckley Jr. filmed on January 6, 1970, Bishop Sheen clearly mentions Pope Francis and Buckley does not catch it. During minute 37 of this episode Bishop Sheen says, "Being related to the world, I think it (the Catholic Church) has become much more compassionate of sinners and I would say perhaps that is the spirit that has changed us from the rigidity of excommunication to the patient bearing of Pope Francis."
As you may know Pope Paul VI was pope in 1970 when this episode of Firing Line was aired. Also our current Pope Francis is the first to ever call himself Francis. Someday if another pope wanted to call himself Francis that future pope would be called Pope Francis II. So how do you explain this , when in 1970, 54 years ago, a man as smart as Bishop Sheen refers to Pope Francis?
I think Bishop Sheen had a mystical experience and he was made to know the future. Our current Pope Francis can certainly be described as a man with "patient bearing." Our current pope is patient, loving, accepting and willing to walk with others.
Buckley's question was about excommunication, he wanted to know why people (of 1970) who claim to be Catholic but clearly live a life in contradiction to a Catholic lifestyle are not excommunicated. This clip was part of Bishop Sheen's answer.
I think Bishop Sheen inadvertently let slip information that he received in a mystical/prayer experience. Why do I say this?
1. Everyone knows he was a brilliant scholar. Sheen was one of the intellectual giants of the twentieth century. He could not make a mistake like that especially because at the time this was spoken, there had never been a Pope Francis in all of history. Our Pope Francis is the first!
2. Mystics are known to have visions. Not all mystics are known or want to be known. Saints and mystics are known throughout history to have visions of the future and be privy to information that others do not have. In 2002, Bishop Sheen's cause for canonization was opened and a miracle has been attributed to him.
3. With God all things are possible.

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Комментарии : 36

@lanbaode 5 дней назад

Misleading title just to get more clicks. Dishonest.

@mountainhealer 5 дней назад

The Venerable Fulton Sheen absolutely DOES NOT predict Pope Francis. He says toward the end of the video, “from the rigidity of excommunication to the patient bearing of offenses” and NOT “to the patient bearing of Pope Frances.” Replay it and you’ll hear it clearly. You may want to consider changing the title of your video…

@jatnarivas8741 5 дней назад

If not for this comment telling me what I was expected to mishear I wouldn't have gotten the joke. Thanks.

@mariawren2489 5 дней назад

💯💯💯💯FACT💯💯💯💯

@djpalindrome 4 дня назад

Sheen was a diehard defender of Vatican II. The fatuous optimism of the 1960s had tragic consequences for the Church

@turacoeu2819 5 дней назад

He says "to the patient bearing of offences" not "Pope Francis"

@gs225109 5 дней назад

Listen closer, it’s completely completely obvious he says offenses

@reinadegrillos 4 дня назад

He says "...to the patient bearing of offenses", never said "of Francis"!

@gs225109 5 дней назад

all due respect to the good archbishop, I think he had idealistic hopes about the council, but I think by the time he died, he saw the writing on the wall of the wolf and sheep’s clothing. The preconciliar church was not a nightmare to be fixed. It did not require a council to make a tiny adjustments. The interviewer is right.

@EasternChristian333 5 дней назад

Pre v2 era was a nightmare because of the errors that rome introduced in v1. Rome has been off the path ever since she separated herself from Holy Orthodoxy.

@PrzybyszzMatplanety 5 дней назад

@@EasternChristian333 You are the ones who have separated yourself from the Rock which is Peter. And look where it has led you - more divisions, more inconsistencies and more schisms. You cannot even agree on what books constitute Scripture. You are divided doctrinally, Orthodoxy is unable to provide a unified teaching on even contraception or accepting converts from other denominations (rebaptism or just chrismation?). Where are your historical Patriarchates? Constantinople, Jerusalem, Antioch and Alexandria are suffering under the thumb of unbelievers - did not God allowed enemies of Israel to rule over them when they were in sin? The Ecumenical Patriarch is a refugee in Greece, and less than 1% of the Orthodox remain in Constantinople. The new Patriarchates are no better, the Patriarchate of Moscow and All Russia is less a Church and more an agent's nest and propaganda mouthpiece of the regime. The historical weaknesses of Orthodoxy and its caesaropapism still tie your hands. I hope that one day the Church on earth will become one, but this will not happen until the Romans and Greeks realize their mistakes - and there are a lot of them on your side too.

@jatnarivas8741 5 дней назад

@EasternChristian333 I could take your claim a bit more seriously if I didn't see that the Orthodox websites and Orthodox people I find only misrepresent or misunderstand the Catholic position, especially on those points that allegedly separate us, and seem trained to respond with distrust and even accusations of deceitful intent from Catholics who try to present the view we are actually taught, which is in some cases identical or nearly so to the Orthodox position.

@carminelombardi9575 3 дня назад

He also said. "The laity will save the church"

@eamonbreathnach4613 4 дня назад

Click bait

@user-uq7cu6pm9r 20 дней назад

god bless you i always pray for the sinners and he holy souls

@thecatholicCatholic 20 дней назад

God loves you!

@ChristianSaintSavior День назад

Bishop Sheen clearly said "patient bearing of offenses" and he did not say "Pope Francis."

@thecatholicCatholic 20 дней назад

God bless you. God loves you.

@johncarsone1579 5 дней назад

In the early days following Vatican II there was optimism. The optimism was short lived once the demons of that uncanonical council manifested itself.

@tomthx5804 5 дней назад

The demons are strong within you, pagan.

@ryanalving3785 5 дней назад

By what criteria do you decide what councils are canonical and which are not? If the magesterium of the Church accepts them, it seems logical that we must as well.

@chevyman1487 5 дней назад

Closed captions

@rrickarr День назад

Very misleading title!

@thecatholicCatholic 20 дней назад

I would like to hear about your theories regarding this mention of Pope Francis in 1970.

@EasternChristian333 5 дней назад

Did i miss it? Can you provide the timestamp with where he speaks of pope francis? Or is this just you projecting against the pope?

@ryanalving3785 5 дней назад

I didn't notice a mention to him. What was the reference?

@ThomasWeldon-jx6vx 5 дней назад

I think we can excuse Bishop Sheen for not having the hindsight we have today. I think if he were resurrected and living today (2024) he would say he was wrong. But there is one point he could have been corrected on even in 1970. It's the idea that Vatican I didn't have bishops from around the world because the Church did not relate to the world.. If there were international flights of aircraft when Vatican I was taking place, you can be sure you would have seen bishops from Africa, Asia, and so forth. That is the reason why they weren't there.

@Robusquet 2 дня назад

Pope Francis is humble and focuses on God's mercy. "The V2 council is necessary but will not be understood." Saint Paul 6.

@danielmeadows3712 2 дня назад

It amazes me how people think they know better than the Seat of St Peter and the Magisterium. We are called to love Jesus and his Church. Remember what St Ignatius of Antioch said on his way to his martyrdom in the year 107. Wherever the Bishop is there is the Church. God bless you and your family.

@johncarsone1579 5 дней назад

To the demons are strong within you. What do you know about me? Nothing. Your judgemental sin is now public. Many cobgratulations on your lack of judgement, not to mention lack of sense.

@johncarsone1579 5 дней назад

To Ryan, Take a course in church history & dogmatics. It should be obvious to you that I have. However by the sounds of your closed mind & miopic vision, not sure it would help. I do not wish to continue this with you. You've already made up your mind, & it appears closed. Blessings to you.