'Bitching and moaning' Dolphins get no sympathy from Paul Kent | NRL 360 FOX League 

I don't get that theres this conception they wont b

The argument makes sense for a club in a AFL state. You need fast success to build a fan base. Dolphins don't fit that argument because they can struggle for a few seasons and still be supported.

@@loufrost824 If the last two expansions in RL heartland have created absolute trash teams, who's gonna take an expansion in Perth or Adelaide or New Zealand seriously in the future? Have you ever met a Titans supporter? I haven't. Why would people turn out for those teams if there's a track record of new teams sucking massive dong? Who's gonna want to play for those teams? It only makes attracting star players harder in the future, which makes generating excitement around the club that much harder. Even in RL heartland this happens. It is better for the sport if new clubs get a boost early on to generate some hype, because public perception is the name of the game when starting out.

Onya, Gillo! Not only that, but 700k to be a marquis player in the spotlight after a massive breakdown in his relationship vs going home to a club he knows, with his mates and a support network in a club that is on the rise for what, 200k less? It's not actually beneficial to get a 700k contract like that

The story that the Warriors told was that he was only permitted to discuss terms with Brisbane Broncos, so going elsewhere was not an issue.

@@johnvienta7622 the ceo said they had asked where Walshe wanted to go and he said to the broncos and they let him negotiate with them. He even clarified this in his latest press conference, stating that broncs was the easiest transition for him to come back to the Brisbane.

@@mattgillet6917 , the point I made, and which was stated by the Warriors CEO during a press conference was that Walsh would only be permitted to leave to join the Broncos. The last time I checked Brisbane and Redcliffe were not separated by a vast distance so i do not see why that would be an issue. According to the League shows it had more to do with the Warriors not liking one of the Dolphins staff who used to work for them.

@@johnvienta7622 fox league push there own fucking agenda, I actually listen to the people who know the fucking facts. Walshe said that he got to choose who he negotiated with and he choose broncos. Warriors and Reece didn't want a media circus about where Reece was going so they said to Reece he has to decide which team he wants to leave too and he said he wants to go to the Broncos. Dolphins were always an option for him and warriors would have let him go there but he said he wanted to go to the Broncos. So get your facts right here

Correct. Walsh said he wanted to go to Broncs as it wasn't about money and he has always really been a Bronc's lad. One of Dolphins first moves was to poach supposed recruitment guru Peter O'Sullivan from Warriors so don't expect Warriors to do them any favors in return. Warriors likely to get TMM and Arthars from Broncs for letting them take Walsh which is a win for both clubs. END OF STORY even though Anasta now claims Bennett and the Dolphins are some sort of "threat" to other clubs who are supposedly "afraid" of them at present which is so far fetched it defies belief. Vonny obviously has some sort of interest in Dolphins which clouds her comments.Hell she doesn't even know how employment contracts work. This 360 show is great comedy but to be fair grumpy Kent got this one right.

@@jackohere1878 Warriors owe them nothing, maybe they're honouring a deal with the Broncs when he went over. That happens, West Tigers got Harry Grant for a season and that deal was public but it doesn't have to be public. Or maybe he doesn't want to join a new club????? They're acting very entitled.

Newcastle was the owners fault you muppet anyone who blames Bennett shows they have a severe lack of knowledge when it comes to what happened there

They don't need immediate success. The local base will support a dud team for a few years.

Yvonne would not be saying the same if it was not the Plins.

They already have signed a handful of international players they'll be fine its a storm in a tea cup also some players have agreed but haven't gone public until the season ends

@@jest3167 Yep. People are overestimating the "lack of talent" in the Phins. They nabbed two stand-out young players from NSWRL and with their forward pack they could easily create the space for anyone in key positions to do their job.

True, and i have little doubt that he would be capable of that. It is programmes like NRL360 that push the line that there must be instant success. When the Broncos started Wayne said that it would take 5 years to win a Grand Final and he was correct.

Milford will be the fullback 1. Anthony Milford 2. Edrick Lee 3. Connelly Lemuelu 4. Jamayne Isaako 5. Robert Jennings 6. Isaiya Katoa 7. Sean O'Sullivan 8. Jessie Bromwich 9. Jeremy Marshall-King 10. Mark Nicholls 11. Felise Kaufasi 12. Euan Aitken 13. Kenny Bromwich 14. Ray Stone 15. Jarrod Wallace 16. Tom Gilbert 17. JJ Colins

@@WTC-1990 Jennings is more likely to play centre, and Katoa ain't ready to start at 6 he would need to be bench first and Milford won't play fullback in a Wayne Bennet system unless it's absolutely vital

@@WTC-1990 Euan Aitken is also more likely to play centre over lemuelu.

@@WTC-1990 I don't understand, Dolphins on paper dont even have that bad of a team. This line up would flog the Tigers.

@@mattgillet6917 Connelly Lemuelu is younger, I'd put the young buck at Centre over the older guy that's also playing backrow

Just look at the weekly attacks the Broncos were getting when Wayne was back there

Could it be as a result of working with Ikin, and Ikin's hatred of Wayne has rubbed off.

@@johnvienta7622 nope it's self hatred due to being a scum jurno ,Wayne is notorious for infuriating jurnos

Dolphins won't finish higher than 14th. They will be in the bottom 4 so what are you exactly talking about?

Yeah good point I didn’t even pick that up.

@@TheJuicyjunk If the Dolphins finish in the bottom 4 that (according to Buzz) will be terrible for them and the comp. If they finish above 14th, an existing franchise will drop into the bottom 4, and that would be similarly terrible for that club and the comp. If any club finishing in positions 14-17 is automatically portrayed as terrible for those clubs and the comp, it logically follows the NRL can never progress. That`s what I`m talking about - relentlessly stupid negativity from NRL media.

Can't compare the two. NFL players come through the NCAA system and are developed by the colleges. In the NRL, the clubs develop their own juniors and this is where it becomes complex. Teams like the Panthers have a large junior catchment compared to Roosters or Manly, If they lose players to the draft, then there is essentially no incentive to develop them

A draft was proposed in 91 and was challenged by 127 players. It was ruled a constraint of trade and a interference with a players right to negotiate their own lives and future. Would take a mighty legal case to over turn the precedent.

Those were Super League teams playing in a split comp..

Well Bennett said the England winger Tommy Makemson is one of the best in the World and Alex Walmsley is classed as the best prop in SL so throw some money at those 2 and they will be great signings. Also - Andrew Johns has been saying an NRL club should sign Warringtons Clark - all 3 are on top SL money but the NRL money should be able to attract at least 2 of them over.

I remember Canberra being trash for at least the first 3 seasons. A rugby league town doesn't need immediate success

Tim Sheen's is the man, I bet the board blows it and signs Trent Barret to a 10yr deal.

A lot of clubs are, it won't be a Dolphins exclusive poaching ground.

@@loufrost824 oh yeah i know that but if dolphins are struggling to recruit nrl players maybe stop and head to england ah

Being A bit unfair on the warriors they gave Walsh a start he was playing reserve grade on minimum wage the warriors Spring boarded his career. They didnt have to release him but cleary they nagotiated with the Broncos for other players so it makes alot of sense. Don't feel sorry for reece 350K a year at 19?I'm sure he will do just fine. As For the Lodge debarcle what a Joke totally screws there cap for next year.Why would they then want to help o'sullivan and the Dophins??

​@@Phyic18 The Warriors management having an issue with O'sullivan and the Dolphins shouldn’t get in the way of an individuals (Reece) decision to negotiate with another team. Again as my first comment shows, the hypocrisy from the Warriors is astounding.

@@cloudy-daze8858 The walsh and lodge situation are completely different walsh was signed for the 2023 season lodge had a option in his favour which he choose not to take up.....but still got paid out for how does that work?

While in part I agree it would seem petty from warriors management but the Broncos were offering them players in return for releasing walsh. Dophins were not. Are you saying if u were warriors management u would have said no to the Broncos player swap deal and just let Reece break contact and go where ever?

​@@Phyic18 The deal is Reece to Broncos 350k a year. Its misleading to state in your previous comment “Why would they then want to help o'sullivan and the Dophins??” And not grasp the fact that, that is the basis of the deal.

No, for coaching purposes.

They had to or they'd never build a fanbase without early success. Dolphins can struggle for a bit because it's a league stronghold.

Seems to work fine in Miami

Rabbits are soft and weak, yet they are the most successful team.

@@turboteddy4912 there name has something dolphins an fire hawks don’t over 100 years or pride these clubs don’t