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BitFS 0xA Pole Skip with One Hacked Bully 

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This is a complete demonstration of the Single Bully Final Speed Transfer (FST) blueprint with a single hacked bully. The only things that were hacked were the bully's speed, angle, and action, all of which are set when we first enter the level.
This video is a follow-up to my previous video ( • Optimised BitFS 0xA Fi... ), where I demonstrated this setup, but with Mario and the platform hacked to have convenient parameters. This video also follows on from Tyler Kehne's video ( • BitFS Progress: 0xA Po... ), which demonstrated a similar strategy with 3 hacked bullies. Ultimately, we learned that we didn't have enough flexibility with a single bully to get it into all 3 positions required, which lead to us exploring the possibility of doing this with just one bully collision.
The crucial difference between this video and my last one is that the platform setup and Mario's movement are without any hacks. So, if we can get the bully into this position with the right speed, then BitFS 0xA on N64 will finally be a reality.
The exact setup is as follows:
0, Get to the platform, locking the camera in a predetermined location.
1, Tilt the platform to a specific "XZ sum" by moving along it in a "V" shape.
2, Run and dive-recover to the edge of the platform with it tilted to a specific normal.
3, Quick-turn and dive off the platform towards the bully.
4, While in the air, do very specific movement to get into a specific position so the bully will push Mario in a pre-chosen direction. At the same time, set Mario's X and Z speeds to float-precise speeds using mid-air straining.
5, Get squished under the pyramid platform.
6, Collide with the bully, pushing you further down the edge of the platform.
7, Get pushed out of squish, snap up to the platform floor, and get pushed back off the edge of the platform (cancelling squish and preserving your speed).
8, 10k glitch on the platform to turn your forward speed into sliding speed and crouch slide to the pyramid platform in a PU.
9, Slide kick off the PU platform, straining at the same time to set Mario's speeds to specific values, and land on a wall near the starting area that's actually a very steep floor.
6, 10k glitch again on the very steep floor and return to the pyramid platform in the main universe.
7, Tilt the platform with PU speed until you reach a suitable tilt for the upwarp.
8, Crouch slide to the pyramid platform in a PU and get the upwarp.
9, Breakdance to preserve Mario's speed.
10, Fall from here onto some floor above the pole in a PU.
11, PU route back to the main universe.
12, Go to Bowser.
Platform manipulation is certainly not something I could do, so the credit there really belongs to ‪@fifdspence‬ and ‪@supermarble94‬, who figured everything out for it, with the help of some Scattershot tools @fifdspence put together.
After my last video we had reached a point where we knew that this sort of setup was possible but, since it is heavily dependent upon the platform's tilt, it wasn't clear if we could actually set the platform up as required, and we didn't know any other platform tilts that might work.
So, a few months ago I set up a crowdsourced search to find new setups, using the FST brute forcer tool I've used in my previous videos. With a team of about 40 people, lending their GPUs for many hours, we've spent the last few months trying literally millions of platform tilts to find promising setups.
A few weeks ago we found a few tilts that @fifdspence and @supermarble94 thought looked achievable, and so they began trying to replicate them. After some refinement with Scattershot, they were able to get something very close, and we were able to verify with the brute forcer that this was good enough for remainder of the FST route.
After a few setbacks, we eventually had a complete TAS with a non-hacked platform setup, albeit with hacked camera and Mario. A few days of refinement and optimisation followed where we eliminated the hacked camera and achieved Mario's mid-air movement without hacks (which involved having Scattershot generate millions of dives off the platform until we found one that worked).
Now the only thing left is to figure out how to get the bully up to speed. This is probably possible with the existing methods we have for Bully Battery, the only uncertainty is how long it might take to get that speed. It could be minutes or it could be days, depending on if we can solve some currently unsolved problems. So, that's probably where our focus will go next.
I'd like to thank @fifdspence and @supermarble94 for their help in figuring out this last hurdle for the FST. And a big thank you to everyone who has participated in the crowdsourced search for setups. And, I'd especially like to thank ‪@TylerKehne‬ for making all of this possible. The entire concept of the Single Bully FST strategy was his, and without his years of investigation on BitFS 0xA I wouldn't have ever been able to put all of this together.

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@jongyon7192p
@jongyon7192p 10 дней назад
I like how you don't kill bowser right after, to symbolize that we're almost done, but we're not done yet. Artistic
@GTM_
@GTM_ 10 дней назад
cinema fr
@Bismuth9
@Bismuth9 5 дней назад
😬 I am in danger
@RichConnerGMN
@RichConnerGMN 2 дня назад
chop chop explainer boy /ref
@jongyon7192p
@jongyon7192p День назад
You might legit need to just quote interview excerpts into your video or smth. That way, when i say smth wrong, the fault would go on me instead, lol. Just recently, I was wrong on why mario can get displaced upwards!
@genderender
@genderender 10 дней назад
we are on the precipice. we can all taste victory
@ordinaryoreo8297
@ordinaryoreo8297 9 дней назад
13 days
@Pet297-alt
@Pet297-alt 10 дней назад
If it was possible in LLL, it should be possible here. I can't wait. Big Congratulations to the people working on this.
@fifdspence
@fifdspence 10 дней назад
Can't believe that this day finally came!! Huge congrats
@GuanlongX
@GuanlongX 10 дней назад
This is with one hacked bully, not in unmodified gameplay, save your celebration for when we get it with 0 hacked bullies
@benjaminfachon5323
@benjaminfachon5323 9 дней назад
@@GuanlongXthis milestone is huge, it needs a celebration of its own
@GuanlongX
@GuanlongX 9 дней назад
@@benjaminfachon5323 It's definitely cool, but I'd rather wait until it gets done completely unmodified before really popping off.
@AgentRoses
@AgentRoses 10 дней назад
Love how the camera went "Wait... where did he go??"
@galoomba5559
@galoomba5559 10 дней назад
The camera is fixed so that going to a PU doesn't crash
@madghostek3026
@madghostek3026 10 дней назад
Haa I never perceived the locked camera like that, it really looks like lakitu is nervously looking around
@Qbe_Root
@Qbe_Root 10 дней назад
9, Breakdance to preserve Mario's speed.
@SpudY2K
@SpudY2K 8 дней назад
Believe it or not, that's a very essential component. The whole setup would be much, much harder (if not completely impossible) if you couldn't breakdance out of a crouch slide.
@alexfernando6203
@alexfernando6203 11 дней назад
OMG! I was NOT expecting that! I knew scattershot could help the abc!!! Huge congratz to you and the crew! You guys are Amazing!
@Kosmicd12
@Kosmicd12 6 дней назад
Amazing work
@Katie4
@Katie4 11 дней назад
holy hell. the day this comes to fruition will be legendary.
@DraconicCatgirl
@DraconicCatgirl 11 дней назад
A decade in the making. History being written before our very eyes.
@Superdavo0001
@Superdavo0001 10 дней назад
This is beyond incredible, after all these years of slow progress since the strat was first theorised, we have a basically completely viable setup! Based on the description that PU movement sounds like utter witchcraft (which I guess is why it took so much bruteforcing lmao), it would be interesting to see it with the Mario-following camera hack
@NiftyNova
@NiftyNova 10 дней назад
I believe Marbler is working on that - might be wrong, but i think he mentioned it in the server.
@justsomeguy5628
@justsomeguy5628 10 дней назад
Holy shit, this is huge! I think that this basically confirms that we can get this, because if I'm not mistaken, the only thing stopping the last bully is finding a way to get just a small amount of extra distance, which should be doable with at the very least a long but repeatable setup.
@chainswordcs
@chainswordcs 11 дней назад
really cool stuff. to everyone involved, great work! hopefully this is the final stretch!
@mrzwanzig460
@mrzwanzig460 10 дней назад
It's actually happening. Rooting for you guys to make the final push!
@summunkid
@summunkid 10 дней назад
were almost there guys... 1983 mario bros in 0 apresses
@1LPMx1
@1LPMx1 11 дней назад
It's crazy to think that when Pannenkoek began the ABC challenge in 2013 he was playing RTA with a controller. Who would have thought that over the course of more than a decade this challenge would evolve into literal computer science?
@JorgetePanete
@JorgetePanete 7 дней назад
began*
@Winter_Fan_01
@Winter_Fan_01 10 дней назад
The Final A Press has a sand watch running.
@mentholapoidea
@mentholapoidea 10 дней назад
not even close to final, there are multiple still between SSL, WMotR, and entering all the upstairs levels
@goomb8153
@goomb8153 10 дней назад
@@mentholapoideafinal a press for original console any%
@Lucashallal
@Lucashallal 10 дней назад
@@mentholapoideain any% n64
@mentholapoidea
@mentholapoidea 10 дней назад
@@goomb8153 @Lucashallal thank you both for feeling the need to correct me when I was implicating 120 star, even if you're also right
@Winter_Fan_01
@Winter_Fan_01 10 дней назад
@@mentholapoidea yeah sryy I said it for dramatic effect. Most people would agree that they cannot see the other A presses being saved (because the technical complexity makes it impossible to predict for a viewer, like myself), I didn't want to sound pessimistic.
@ForeverPark
@ForeverPark 10 дней назад
amazing progress! congrats to everyone involved
@octi4684
@octi4684 10 дней назад
this progress is insane
@bain8renn
@bain8renn 7 дней назад
im so fucking excited to see this fully completed!!!!!!!!
@gdash6925
@gdash6925 10 дней назад
we're getting close....
@jopahui2001
@jopahui2001 10 дней назад
*We're so close...*
@Gekkoulong
@Gekkoulong 10 дней назад
We are actually so back
@1ted59
@1ted59 10 дней назад
I can't believe this wtf
@Tojso09
@Tojso09 10 дней назад
Great to see this getting closer to reality! What is the speed of the hacked bully?
@SpudY2K
@SpudY2K 10 дней назад
About 260 million, which is actually quite a bit down from the near 1 billion it had in the previous video.
@j0elyb3an
@j0elyb3an 10 дней назад
it's gonna happen, i can feel it
@madghostek3026
@madghostek3026 10 дней назад
Only two weeks away
@TheWritersMind
@TheWritersMind 10 дней назад
WE ARE SO CLOSE!!!!!! LETS GOOOOO!!!!!!
@littleawesomeapple
@littleawesomeapple 11 дней назад
This is hacktastic
@sachagd8796
@sachagd8796 10 дней назад
this is actually surreal
@simon88397
@simon88397 10 дней назад
We are watching history being made
@sticks_stuff
@sticks_stuff 5 дней назад
very cool
@ordinaryoreo8297
@ordinaryoreo8297 10 дней назад
oh my god it feels so close, is it known yet how to get a bully battery on that height? edit: seems like not at all as of now, and that may be the biggest obstacle in this?
@Mateolochi
@Mateolochi 10 дней назад
This is amazing.
@toolofthelord
@toolofthelord 10 дней назад
i can almost smell it
@charliekempf
@charliekempf 10 дней назад
OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS ITS HAPPENING
@dultzywaltzy
@dultzywaltzy 11 дней назад
actually insane
@TenorSine
@TenorSine 11 дней назад
-Is this RTA viable?-
@justsomeguy5628
@justsomeguy5628 10 дней назад
Surely...
@octi4684
@octi4684 10 дней назад
i really hope so
@live_learn_puyo
@live_learn_puyo 10 дней назад
Seems not very RTA viable as it needs PU movement. Also setting up the bully precisely is pretty challenging I guess?
@benjaminfachon5323
@benjaminfachon5323 9 дней назад
@@live_learn_puyoit’s a joke, since every single input in the entire video needs to be exact pretty much. This may be the most rta unviable strat
@sshuckle
@sshuckle 10 дней назад
This is so so cool
@cannibal667
@cannibal667 10 дней назад
am i suppose to understand what happened?
@firstnamelastname8684
@firstnamelastname8684 10 дней назад
Oh my gah it’s really happening
@NIMPAK1
@NIMPAK1 10 дней назад
I WANT TO BELIEVE!
@trekq
@trekq 10 дней назад
Holy
@Charcoal190
@Charcoal190 10 дней назад
Hell yeah
@ik0nino
@ik0nino 10 дней назад
So close...
@danielr5000-d1s
@danielr5000-d1s 8 дней назад
It could take days? Many more than waiting on the platform? What are the unsolved problems with speed generation you are referring to?
@SpudY2K
@SpudY2K 8 дней назад
I think the consensus is 4-5 days in the worst case scenario. The main problem is that when the bully has a moderate amount of speed (fast, but not PU fast) its movement is going to be very chaotic. Imagine it just bouncing around the stage faster than we can keep up with it. How do we get speed to and from the bully when its moving around like that? And how do we stop it launching into the copious amount of lava surrounding us and dying immediately? Well, one solution is to get the bully submerged in the lava. It's possible to do this and cancel its death sequence. If the bully has sunk deep enough under the lava when you do that it'll be considered beneath the lava floor, and therefore beneath all floors in the level, this means that the bully's next position will always be out of bounds, so it'll never move no matter how much speed it has. So, if we have a solution, then what's the problem? Well, it's much much harder to get speed from the bully when its down there, due to how bully interactions are coded. So, unless we can get speed from a submerged bully we're limited to the slow version of bully battery, which takes days. This is why the original 0xA LLL volcano strategy was so slow: it relied on submerging the bully and building speed with slow bully battery. So, to build speed from the bully quickly we either need to find a way to get speed from a submerged bully or find a way to deal with the bully without having it submerged. I have looked into the first approach a bit already (see my "Sub-Lava Bully Speed Transfer" videos), but we hit a bit of a dead end there as the initial conditions seem impossible to achieve.
@BittenFrostbite
@BittenFrostbite 10 дней назад
holy shit
@Nootathotep
@Nootathotep День назад
Do ou you think it'll be done?
@SpudY2K
@SpudY2K День назад
I don't see any reason why not at this point. This is, by a long way, the hardest part of the entire TAS completed. If we wanted to, we could start TASing the speed building today, getting the bully up to speed using a similar approach to the original LLL Volcano 0xA TAS. Though, that'd be very slow (and even slower to TAS), and many of us are still banking on a faster means of building speed than that. So I don't see us trying the slower approach for now, as it makes more sense to focus our efforts on trying to solve the remaining problems for the faster method.
@switchpalacecorner
@switchpalacecorner 10 дней назад
wow
@vincenzofranchelli2201
@vincenzofranchelli2201 11 дней назад
soo how close is this?
@vincenzofranchelli2201
@vincenzofranchelli2201 10 дней назад
@@Winter_Fan_01 well ye i got that u only need to batter the bully, the question is that just an inevitability or could that still be impossible
@lemon9bug
@lemon9bug 10 дней назад
It's almost definitely possible to get the speed with slow bully battery (same method used in the 25h LLL 0x strat), but it would take multiple days. Next step is to try to figure out a faster way to build the speed, which would means doing fast bully batteries with low speed, which is unsolved as of now (after the bully has a couple thousand speed it hovers in mid-air which makes it easier)
@lior_haddad
@lior_haddad 10 дней назад
Huge
@Patashu
@Patashu 10 дней назад
let's fucking gooooooo
@Phazer25
@Phazer25 10 дней назад
🙏
@david-tb9jp
@david-tb9jp 11 дней назад
Holy hell
@BoltTheEmolga
@BoltTheEmolga 10 дней назад
I’m sorry what We’re so close
@Monkeyman249
@Monkeyman249 10 дней назад
Insane. Hope you're able to get the bully up to speed!
@j0elyb3an
@j0elyb3an 10 дней назад
if we get this, doesn't it also save 2 more A presses from entering TTC?
@Qbe_Root
@Qbe_Root 10 дней назад
No, there's no way to carry speed into the castle upstairs, you can't lock the camera in the castle so PUs would crash on N64, and there's no rotating object that could turn horizontal speed into height anyway
@Lucashallal
@Lucashallal 10 дней назад
We already use n64, so no
@j0elyb3an
@j0elyb3an 10 дней назад
it would atleast save time in RTA
@TwilightFlower9
@TwilightFlower9 9 дней назад
this is most definitely not rta viable
@BittenFrostbite
@BittenFrostbite 10 дней назад
hi kosmic
@TenorSine
@TenorSine 11 дней назад
holy fuck
@BittenFrostbite
@BittenFrostbite 10 дней назад
omg
@elmi8769
@elmi8769 10 дней назад
inb4 kosmic comments 😇
@ZerolinGD
@ZerolinGD 10 дней назад
holy shit
@gembai
@gembai 10 дней назад
wow
@MinusNC
@MinusNC 10 дней назад
holy shit
@RichConnerGMN
@RichConnerGMN 11 дней назад
holy shit
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