Bizarre Intellivision Amico Event Analyzed 

Now has about as much chance of succeeding as a Cesaro push.

Looks even worse now. Im betting we get delay 2 in February.

I didn't think my confidence in it could get lower. So good on them for proving that wrong.

You'll said delay until April...best fools joke ever.

Here’s a question, why are there so many youtubers fawning over this thing. Are they on the cut? Is it just the free stuff tommy sends? Did he invite them to a party, got everyone drunk and took compromising photos of them?

Nice one!

Holy alliteration, Batman !

Is that an original or lovingly recreated.

@@schnarfschnarf5886 It's original, I could even edit it again to add turgid in front of tendency to make it slightly better.

@@azure1259 Alliteration always acknowledges amico abominations.

Oh, I can't wait until you catch up with us even further in the future.

Tommy has painted them as the Boogeyman, for whatever reason. I guess he needed someone to rail against

Amico podcast? Talk about completely unnecessary

I want to thank you for this comment. :)

There are loads of interesting comments here and on a smaller channel, self-admitted Intellivision fan cyrus martin. one guy has a webpage with proof of the intense moderation of youtube comments on Tommy's channel. Wouldn't surprise me if TT asks small channels to prune comments, too. In comments, TT is accused of giving lists of people to 'pre-ban' when he does his interviews on small channels, says a guy who showed up at one for the first time, pre-blocked. This is done from fear, if true. I read an accusation that the amico is a retro pi or very close to it, a banana pie. Maybe it wasn't in 2018, but in 2020 this could be possible. To speed production. The 'must be a new release' no ports rule is baby bottom soft, as we knew it would be. The Coleco-retro scam, what was missed is that Mike K had to have known his RetroVGS was fake since he booted it up at the toy show, and before the event. He would blame his engineer as if he was scammed too, but he knew what it was the moment he powered it up the first time.

Amico games are ps1-ps2 level, but I think I get it for mobile game fans that want to play on a big screen, play against pals at home, with better controllers. this is a nice mobile-console hybrid, but when Team Amico saw the under $200 Switch lite, nail-chewing moment, did anyone there not start drinking or punch a hole in the drywall ? Wealthly moms may not care of its low power and quality, and maybe retro fans will be forgiving. but getting out-priced by the switch lite, that has to have his team dispirited. Nes and Snes mini consoles, outprice it too, and have great controllers. Snes mini games crush what Amico has, TG16 mini as well. Switch has everything and is portable, decent controllers too unlike mobile phones. Switch fixed and stole the market I spoke about in the beginning, which is why we see so many games for the amico already on that platform, too ! If only there was some way to hook a switch up to the big TV, ah it does that. His market is not so huge after all, especially with the higher price.

Open Every Sweater

@@foofyno-no6073 Pete seems nice, if very misguided.

@@foofyno-no6073 underrated response right here :D

I had relatives that peddled Herbalife, Tupperware, Avon, Amway, and Kirbys. Yeah, family reunions were fun!

@@juicyfruit6311 oh wow. Families of salesmen seems like a miniseries i would watch for the comedy and the baggage.

Time to wait to see how Rich the shill ( bought with a mug) defends this lol.

zibbidybopnbadop splort

Are there seriously people making videos defending this thing? It looks so fucking lame.

One video said the presentation was AWWW-SUMMMM!. Another said it was "Roses." There was a Pat VS Tommy video. Overall, the news of a delay led to a typical fappin' session over how KEWL this is.

And when you add absolutely no new sounds effect onto this demo it's also looking grim. I'm a fan of earthworm jim (the games not the show that was never released here) because it was gross and disturbing, but here we get something that looks way too much family friendly.

@@XMAlek Earthworm Jim was a fun and reasonably creative game back in the day, but even so, it's hardly a franchise I think many people have been clamming to make a comeback.

Here's the thing: If the project had built up more goodwill and a better reputation prior to the pandemic, people would have been more willing to extend them the benefit of the doubt.

@@timf7413 Yeah, Tommy was attacking the gaming press for reporting on this with a critical eye from jump street.

@@timf7413 I agree, but that's just the tip of the iceberg. You can have a well run project that's transparent from the start, builds goodwill with potential fans, etc... but if it doesn't deliver or is underwhelming, it's still going to fall flat on it's face. The Amico costs about the same as a Switch Light with a game, so in order for it to succeed they need to come correct and deliver a product that consumer's will view as being better than a Switch at that price point. As it is now, the mobile looking games are turning off the hardcore gamers, and the unfortunate fact that Intellivision as a brand hasn't been relevant in decades means that they will still be viewed as a generic box that costs as much as the name brand one which really positions them poorly in the marketplace. It is cheaper than a regular model Switch, but not by much which is really an issue.

@@JFlickinger82 FWIW I agree they have much bigger problems (namely the ones you mention). I'm just saying that people probably would have cut them more slack over the delay if they had done more to earn it.

@@timf7413 Yeah, and there are still some people that are giving them the benefit of the doubt. I guess what I struggle with the most is how they could have built up that goodwill with what they currently have to show. Even if they handled everything really well and a lot of people wanted to see them succeed, or at the very least just trust them, I really don't see a valid business case for a $200+ box that plays games that are either currently available on mobile platforms, or look like they could be on mobile platforms. I guess it's kind of like an Nvidia Shield TV, but that's a niche device that doubles as a streaming box so even that is a little different.

On his latest infomercial he said the haters are up to 7 or 8

@@FrogTony Which interview?

@@charvelgtrs8960 Hey, don't watch or comment on that new amico video with retrobro it was trash.

@@charvelgtrs8960 Its on RetroBro's channel...not worth the watch as its the same spiel he's been doing for the last several months with like 1 or 2 new tidbits.

HA HA HA HA HA!!! :D

Damn, why did Tommy have to buy the Intellivision name? Why couldn't someone with amazing credentials in the manufacturing and business arena buy it?

Go fly a kite.

@@AllPro777 I did it was the amico 747 disaster edition

@INXISIV at this point I totally agree.

Lot's of hate against Pat and Ian, but they've been right so far. Even if they're being dicks ( which is why I like them) can't deny what they've been saying, and Tommy is feeding into it. I wish it luck though and hope it does decent.

Don't worry.... It won't

@@TheVoidofNothing11 I'd wish it luck if it had a market, but it just... doesn't. Stadia and Ouya at least had a market, even if they didn't reach it. This thing just doesn't have a market, I can't wish it luck.

@@Ben-do1bf Intellivision was my first system and when they first broke news i was like okay. 200 bucks is really the max you can set this thing. I like what Tommy has done musically, but reviving a dead brand an entire different beast. I do wish him luck I don't want to see anyone fail, but for the price and what I've seen, I'm spending my money on other things when it comes to gaming.

@@TheVoidofNothing11 Yup. The Intellivision in the 80s was in a different industry than the modern industry, what made it work then makes no sense now, and it makes even no sense for it to be this console. An Intellivision classic mini would have made 100 times more sense, and even then, how many of those could you really sell, even if it was a solid product?

Don't forget. What happen to Perrin Kaplan. The wiz from the nintendo wii marketing team. And that J Allard downgraded his title to "advisor". What's that all about.

Here is some more news. Turbojoe said that Tommy has a daily private chat with his shills. That's access media 101. S T brought this up about youtube sponsor rules. brands.joinstatus.com/youtube-sponsorships

I still have these and a Packard Bell computer running Win 3.1. It's glorious, though the games are fairly poor. Brings back so many memories though.

He also bragged about getting a Cnet video done by a real journalist...

The Geek Getaway Real journalist i.e. someone who is Amico friendly im sure CNET appreciates him insulting their writers.

That turns me off more then anything these days. How very Trumpian of him which totally turns me on to buying his product.

In other words, exactly the market likely to have any interest in a niche video game console (or even know the Amico is a thing).

Look at how defensive TT gets any and every times someone brings u any criticism. He doesn't understand that HE is the hipster. Trying to be cool by clutching onto anything retro, however his condition ventures into midlife crisis more than anything else. Timmy just doesn't know how to run a business... And touring as a musician is not the same as introducing a new gaming console to an already crowded market.

The price point wouldn't have been out to lunch in '97 either.

Why '97 specifically? :)

Jan Jacobs felt right

To be fair, several people who are in their late 40s to early 50s seem to be really excited about the Amico. They are, by their own admission, folks who grew up with an Intelivision in their house. I think THIS is the target demographic (or should be). These folks aren't wearing Tommy's gratis merch, their RU-vid channels aren't dedicated primarily to promoting the Amico, and they haven't done any "interviews" with Tommy. I think these folks are for real, genuine, Intellivision fans. That said, these folks are also, from all appearances, a tiny niche of the hobby. I don't think there are enough of them to carry the Amico long term.

James Hargrove agreed. This is such a small market, I don’t understand how money will be made. And the console price is way too high for something like this for a market that’s really really small.

@@TheJuice70 Agreed. As much as I hate Tommy because of his dishonesty (especially when so many of his lies are easily disprovable) and his small army of shill RU-vidrs who exist ONLY to promote the Amico, I do think there is a market for it. The issue I see it that it's just a reeeeeeallly small market. Which might explain why they're pretty much ignoring that market and, instead, trying to lean in hard to "families" and "family gaming" (an ostensibly bigger market). The problem with this is that it puts the Amico in direct competition with Nintendo, even if Tommy refuses to admit it (of course the HUGE amount of time he spends trash talking Nintendo proves that he's in competition with them, otherwise he'd have no reason to do such). The Amico will NEVER outsell NIntendo. NEVER. That's absurd. And, yet, Tommy is chasing that market in hopes of achieving that dream, while ignoring the small (but guaranteed) market he CAN capture. I think (but, of course I don't have access to the numbers), the profit margins are probably all out of whack on this thing. If they aren't already operating in the red, I suspect that they will be by the time it comes to market. It certainly is 110% more likely that Nintendo will kill the Amico in the short term, than the Amico will kill Ninetendo. While I am cautiously optimistic that the Amico will get made (I don't expect a ZX Spectrum or Coleco Chameleon-level disaster), I also expect it to have a short retail lifespan.

James Hargrove yeah. And again, it’s nothing against the console, I’m sure it’s fine, but when you’re trying to compete in a market where there’s 2 or 3 better options, with better games, bigger companies and proven track records, then your console is just a big. This will be one shelves for 6-8 months, have no traction and will probably die. Market research should’ve been done.

@@jdrakeh I still don't get it. It's just a brand. This machine has exactly jack shit all to do with intellevision. Other then the goofy ass controllers which don't appear to even do anything special this could be called anything.

It would actually need to come out, before it flops LOL

@Lassi Kinnunen I just loved how they felt so proud they were selling their units on Walmart.com and Amazon when there are already tons of 3rd party marketplaces on the sites. Thus making that announcement kinda seem insignificant lol.

@Mann Maniac Nintendo switch gives 2 controllers out of the box ( technically as it can count between 1-2). There was an Xbox one bundle that came with 2 controllers. The SNES and Sega mini both came with 2 controllers. The 2 controllers thing has been done. The only specific thing the Amico has is the phone app which can give you theoretically infinite controllers ( or as many phones as you can get lol). Did the WiiU come with a controller besides the main handheld?

@Mann Maniac depends on how the DLC is used. Most games now in days I will admit don't use it correctly, but the purpose of DLC is to add to the game. Currently playing SAO Alicazation and the DLC they are releasing right now is free ( along with game updates they are adding dungeons and even a new character). Then of course they have a season pass which will add two big scenarios after the main game. Do game updates count as DLC? Unlike in the past games don't come out in perfect conditions with all the tech involved. Even mobile games have to download updates at times lol.

LMAO of course the shills will call you wrong despite the facts right in their faces.

This is #Tommyknockers idea of partnership ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0TRb3kZOSuQ.html

IT'S FOR PERIPHERALS, YOU HATER. And definitely not for a console that just missed it's shipping date of two months from now. :D

@Robert Shmigelsky If you listen to Tommy. He has sent 50 millions dollars on market research. Market research is his red herring.

@Robert Shmigelsky Oh. I know that it's not that much. But the answer to any tough question is market research. I mean can market research answer every question. I said 50 million because that should cover the amount Tommy had to have spent to answer every question with market research.

I hope that's not true. Yikes.

@@PatTheNESpunk I hope not too, but I've seen several first-hand accounts on RU-vid and Reddit complaining about lost pre-order money (for games). I really hope nobody loses console-tier dollars in this way, be they Amico buyers or PS5/Xbox buyers. Nobody deserves that.

The sad thing about that is that individual customers will be so far down the bankruptcy chain, they will likely never see that money.

@@timf7413 I just read the Game Stop website. Currently they're only offering refunds on pre-orders in the form of virtual gift cards: www.gamestop.com/preorderdepositrefund/ The only other option offered is to "wait until your store re-opens" (of course, many stores AREN'T re-opening; they're shutting down forever): gsclosing.blogspot.com/ In short, doing pre-orders at Game Stop currently looks riskier than playing gas station slots in rural Nevada.

@@jdrakeh Which are of course, largely useless for a chain closing locations and very likely to go belly up at some point in the not too distant future. (especially now that giving them business may lead to losing your money for no product).

TBH I also think that's a function of crowdfunding to some extent. It's way too easy for people to talk up their big ideas and get in over their head without having to prove they can actually produce anything.

Exactly.

One of the silver linings of this whole thing is that Tommy had to sell all his comic book and toy collection because of funding issues for the Amico. I mean, he's an adult, so he really shouldn't have had an extensive comic book collection in the first place, I mean he's not a kid. But anyway yeah, he was so proud of his children's comic books and children's toys collection, so the fact he had to sell all of it because he's a terrible businessman, is incredibly satisfying. Like, he spent literally millions leasing an absolutely enormous office that wasn't ever needed because they had fewer than a dozen employees. Yet this office could accommodate hundreds of employees. He fully furnished the place too, buying hundreds of chairs and desks and so on. That's how terrible a businessman he is, he spent all the millions of fundraising money on an office that the company never needed and even if things had gone incredibly well and the console had eventually come out the they STILL would have never needed an office that big (and also it was one of 2 offices they didn't need, so it was doubly idiotic). He sold all this stuff, just to try and keep the company afloat, and it was all in vain because the console is literally never gonna come out. He must have genuinely believed it would come out, to sell all his stuff like that. Which is just very sad really. He's that delusional that he really didn't understand why he couldn't get the Amico out. But yeah. Ever since hbomberguy's video destruction of Tommy's entire life and career came out, Tommy has been completely absent from the Internet. He has yet to resurface, even to do something as minor as say liking a tweet or something. Which means he definitely watched the whole video, which is funny cos hbomberguy was right when he said Tommy probably searches for his name on Google and RU-vid and watches every video anyone ever makes about him, because even in videos about him that have like 50 views in total, he's in the comments section defending himself. So hbomberguy's video, with over 8 million views now, Tommy has definitely watched it. And because all his decades of lying have caused his entire career and reputation to be permanently destroyed by hbomberguy, and nobody will ever believe a single word he ever says anymore because he's been proven to be such a pathological liar and narcissist. And so he'll never be respected ever again. He's had a complete mental breakdown because of that video. He doesn't even seem to be doing Video Games Live concerts anymore because of this. So hbomberguy's video has destroyed his entire life and career and reputation. So I almost feel sad for him. If it weren't for the fact he scammed people out of literally millions of dollars worth of money. Money that people will never be refunded. People should really research companies and CEOs of kickstarter projects before they donate money to the fundraiser, but even so, the responsibility for all of this is on Tommy's shoulders. He might genuinely be suicidal because of all of this. I don't wish death upon him or anything. But he does need significant amounts of mental healthcare regardless, because he genuinely is a pathological liar, and has narcissistic personality disorder. He lies for absolutely no reason, constantly, he just can't help himself. It's even lies on top of lies, because he always has to one up people. Like he lied for years about being on MTV cribs, when he was never on that show, because he's not famous, he's a nobody. But then when people would interview him and say that he's been on MTV cribs, now all of a sudden he'd say he'd actually been on Cribs "a couple of times". Because one lie isn't enough anymore, he has to one up the person, even when they're complimenting him. That's just fucking weird behaviour. It's pathological lying because there's absolutely no reason to lie like that in that situation. He just does it because he can't help himself. Another example is the fact he supposedly has the Guinness world record for person who's on the most video games in a lifetime (he doesn't actually have that record, he was lying, of course, but that's beside the point here). And over the years he'd constantly increase the number of games he supposedly worked on. First it was 250, then eventually 300, then eventually 350, then 400. He couldn't help himself and just had to keep adding to the lie, increasing the number, with no evidence. It's just nuts. He's genuinely severely mentally ill. And again, maybe I'd feel sorry for him if he didn't scam so many vulnerable people, and didn't act racist and homophobic and so on when anybody ever even mildly criticised him.

Mine was negative it's gone

Not at all surprising given their pattern of behavior in the past. They obviously moderate everything rather heavily.

They are.

the first 4 or 5 comments with most votes are negative, and are still there after 2 weeks, so I don't see it seeing the case

The lack of professionalism really gets me. Can you imagine a top exec at Sony, Micosoft or Nintendo arguing with random internet commenters?

@@timf7413 God, we already have console war nonsense to deal with, and gamers bring that up by themselves: imagine if Nintendo, Sony or MS openly encouraged such arguments and went against everything they've been encouraging for the past generation. (crossplay/playing with all sorts of people worldwide" Tommy's pretty much trying to do a shitty mini console war with the VCS and Atariage is eating it up because their audience consists of 30-40 year boomers. The absolutely sad part is the great looking games (Breakout/Night Stalker) will likely suffer bad reputation because of the amico and Tommy's actions as a whole. Both of those systems won't do so hot but at least Atari had the courtesy to just shut up about their console (for better or worse) and work on it. Meanwhile Tommy loves drama youtubers and won't stop sending small YTers who praise the thing free shit. I've reviewed HUNDREDS of indie/AAA games on my review website and have dealt with PR reps ahoy and lots of review copies I've been bluntly honest on. The stuff with the amico goes far beyond anything I've ever seen with any other company in terms of the amount of shilling/unprofessionalism from a PR rep or CEO. Even fucking THQ Nordic and Nicalis somehow have restraint and I hate them both.

@@Seafoamgaming As Ian says, there are a lot of games here that look like they might be kind of fun (for what they are), just not in the format they're trying to sell them. IMHO if they were just honest about what they were selling instead of shifting the PR hype into overdrive and hit the market with a reasonable price point there might be a market for this and most of the criticism would evaporate.

I find it more strange that AtariAge.com is shilling for ... Intellevision? And they're piddling on ... Atari? Really? That's just ... weird.

@@Seafoamgaming I've had no issues with any PR rep, even after shitting on a game I was given review cods for, except for Tommy and all I did was accurately report on his craziness.

If it gets that raid shadow legends game I will take up jogging.

@@ColeslawVariant same

That's the most mind boggling thing about this entire project to me. Even if someone is interested in games like this, there's really no reason they would have to buy a dedicated console to play them, let alone at the price point they have proposed.

He's mediocre at best. Koshiro and kawashima have more talent in their fingertips.

Tommy fellow? What are you a millenial? Well let me enlighten you child... Tommy Tallarico was famous for working at Virgin Interactive back in the 90s working on tons of video games. He was a huge composer for many games for them. Earthworm Jim was a big series for him, he went on to host shows on G4 tv in the future as well. On the side he worked on games as well including Metroid Prime. He is a sound composer mostly.

DaNerd89 yeah, and none of that means jack squat to his intended family audience. It will obviously mean a lot to you and the historians, but a good story is just that, a good story. The people I feel sorry for are the ones that buy the damn thing, wrap it up for little Johnny and Suzy (Xmas 2022 probably) and then get their feelings crushed when the kids give it one look and go back to their phones.

@Lassi Kinnunen In either regard "famous" is probably overstating things a fair bit.

So, who's this Tommy fellow, you ask. He's a has-been average 90s videogame musician who happened to stumble upon some above average games. His best achievement was to make his own tools based on the Gens engine and make it sound well. After that, craving for the spotlight he no longer had, he made this Video Games Live thing that didn't really showed video game music as an art, just a series of licensed orchestral concerts with music from the most mainstream games you could think of, no Zuntata, no Hüslbeck, no Follin, no SNK Shinsekai, no Motoi Sakuraba, just your typical Mario, Castlevania, Zelda, Final Fantasy and Sonic and other games he worked on. With those concerts not getting the hype they used to have, he looked for another way to get onec more in the spotlight he craves so bad and bought the Intellivision brand to create this, possibly inspired by Mike Kennedy's scam and the "attack of the minis" of the time this was concieved. So, in summary, he's a narcisist average musician that has little to no remarkable or memorable work in videogames and yet, somehow he is the self-proclaimed champion of gaming, bacause apparently everything is wrong with it. P.S. ​@DaNerd89 before you say anything, I'm not a millennial, I'm 41 and as fan of videogame music from all ages and places, I'm still not impressed by his work. Oh, and his concerts did not help to change the general concept of videogame music at all.

tommy was definitely better when he was doing sound design work for a bunch of games. The games weren't great due to his work, but it was an adequate contribution to games made by skilled developers. A lot of them were uncredited. But I mean, THPS 1, unreal tournament 2004, maximo vs army of zin, war of the monsters, metroid prime 1 and 2. But, his ego took over everything. He got into this thing way over his head thinking he could compete by offering something alternative to other consoles, but it's just stuff that you could get cheaper anywhere else without dropping 250 on the console.

Why not both?

IMHO they will be legitimate when they actually produce something and manage to sell it.

Man that is at least a 17hrs of response time lol

Give it 6 months after release and it'll be Dollar Tree.

You in the Baltimore area?

I could see them marketing this to families that didn't want to/couldn't buy a Switch, but that would require a substantially lower price point.

"Nintendo exists and sells two products..." // Make that 3 products; the 3DS XL is still on retail shelves and is just a tier below the Nintendo Switch Lite.

Ghost Squad on the Wii is $3.00. Great game.

@@ColeslawVariant Huh. That does look pretty cool.

@@ColeslawVariant I used to love Ghost Squad!

I mean, that's the biggest flaw of all. Put aside the weird online behavior, the excuses, the wacky controllers... where are the fun games? The games that you can only play on Amico, that give you a special or unique experience?

@@djconvoy Cornhole enters the chat then slowly backs away.

There is no appeal.

@@ST-te8do Yeah, but what about this really harkens back to the old Intelivision? Gaming wise, it seems more akin to modern smartphone or flash gaming to me. I don't see how they can market anything as the next Wii, when the Switch is already essentially filling that market niche rather handily.

@@ST-te8do From what I remember, Mattel Electroncs Intellivision was not marketed to a very diverse crowd back-in-the-day.

@Lassi Kinnunen He was too scared of people cancelling preorders.

The Chameleon makes the Amico seem like the PS5 in comparison. That was console was run by a complete idiot with a pipe dream.

@Lassi Kinnunen I 100% agree that this system will most likely flop. When it comes to a console, especially a brand new one, there has to be great games, exclusive or not. After watching the press conference, nothing got me excited. I am curious to what kind of MLB game they maye as well as the Earth Worm Jim. The rest of the games shown have no interest to me, especially with the price tag of the console. I still wouldn't put the Amico anywhere near the Chameleon. Mike Kennedy had like 3 guys working on a console. He himself had zero experience in the video game market. The guy started with the God damn shell of an old console and thought he had most of what he needed. I actually attempted to write a book on the subject, so I am well informed on the topics. Mike Kennedy and Chameleon was one of the biggest jokes in vidoe game history. When it comes to Tommy, he has like 30 years of video game experience, with a tons of connections. Putting him and Mike Kennedy in the same conversation is not righy

In all honesty, I've thought there was a parallel between both for as long as Pat and Ian have been covering them. Both seem based around providing a type of content that is somewhat popular, but which very few people are likely to see the need for a dedicated product or service for.

@A Volpe sarcasm was in my comnent and a smiley face, meaning I enjoyed it being pooped on ;)

True.

Basically, Doug believes that anyone who isn't a straight, conservative Christian is being controlled to spread "evil" by some supernatural character called Satan.

For Cornhole?

@@PatTheNESpunk for your video. I was joking. I agree completely with you about Cornhole, it had a weird frame rate issue, I thought I was the only one who noticed

Cornhole is more fun than this "console".

Thanks Uncle Lou!

Pfft those weirdos even troll the VCS indigogo page (um ... why?). They're everywhere.

That's the thing that really gets me, if someone truly has a burning desire to play games like this, they can already do so from any smartphone.

Tim F I think we all assume that everyone know basic computer programming. Maybe a subset of busy parents, who are ignorant to the cheap options.

@@liamboyle6345 It doesn't take programming knowledge to download a mobile game to a smartphone or tablet.

My Leg Hurts - Ryzen isn't underpowered. Top shelf? Nah. But 250 is a lot cheaper for a Ryzen box than 250 for a SoC Android ... thing.