After playing the game you should know by now that appearances are decieving. The sky is fake, the hydro archon was fake, the Raiden Shogun was not the true archon, Rex Lapis did not die, Nahida has a child appearance despite being the archon of wisdom. There is always more beneath the surface. A nation of war not looking like a place of war? There's definitely more to it. Don't judge a book by its cover. The story has consistently proved time and time again that it has a dark undertone throughout its story.
How the hell wanting to have a dark-skinned character in land inspired by Africa weird? Last time i checked that's the majority of the people living there.
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@@no_s1eep i meant the company is based in China. Obvously the charactera they created are not black. Why would they make them location correct? This is a fantasy world. Maybe in hoyoverse therea no blacks. Who cares about real world
Last time I checked I couldn't find Africans with pink, blue or red hair... Why do you stop in the skin color? Do you want representation? Don't be hypocrite and demand real African hair colors and styles too!!
My question id why not? If they can represent chinese, Japanese and german people why not latin American and african cause thats where the new region is based on. They literally have the names of aztec and african gods. Making them white is literal colorism
where was this energy when they made the little mermaid black? people like you never care when actual blackwashing happens, yet have the audacity to complain when a fictional new character isn't brown?
@@jamesnesran2348 why bring Disney into this, and fyi I don't support Disney on that situation. But you are taking REAL figures from religions originating from countries with black people and making them literally white. Nobody wants everyone to be black, just give them diversity. Make a few fair characters, some tan characters and some dark characters
@@jamesnesran2348 also to use your example, Disney blackwashing Ariel=bad, Hoto whitewashing African and native people=fine and people are complaining. This is literally a double standard.
@@AshAshashhhh it's YOUR double standard. blackwashing existing white characters IS wrong. making a totally novel character white is not. just because the new region may share some geographic themes with africa does not mean it is africa.
@@jamesnesran2348 lmao don't you understand. I don't like blackwashing, I never claimed to do. And how is making African deities white not whitewashing?? It literally is. And the game takes heavy inspirations from irl places, monstadt-germany, liyue-china, inazuma-japan, sumeru-south Asia and middle East, fontaine-france, natlan-africa and native people
The fact that Hoyoverse is an Asia-based company is not an excuse. Other Asia-based game dev companies, like Lilith Games & Devsisters, (makers of Dislyte & Cookie Run) have not problems with skin tone or ethnic diversity. The main reason many people are upset about this, is because skin tone is literally such an easy thing to implement. Hoyoverse has every resource to make it possible, they just choose not to use them.
@@rickybobby5153 There isn't an excuse. Especially not when there is a vocal majority of the asian player base of Hoyoverse games that want more skin tone diversity in the game. People like you that try to find excuses to cover up this company's colorism and cultural appropriation are part of the problem as to why this issue isn't being resolved.
@@rickybobby5153 Asian player base also includes South Asian players. who are mostly brown, and Sumeru (The SOUTH ASIA nation) was severely lacking in any brown units besides the 3 that everyone deems weak. The point I'm making is that HYV has a history of doing this, and unless we put our foot down, POC in this community are going to keep getting screwed over.
@@kingjuece8975 The point you’re missing is the vast majority of the people who generate profit for this game don’t want to pull dark skin characters. I’m not sure what’s so hard for you to understand about this
My question is why shouldn’t they be darker, the region is based off of African/South America and many other countries with darker skin tones so why shouldn’t they be darker it kinda makes no sense having white as snow characters in this region. It just shows hoyoverse being allergic to melanin and seeming racist :|
@@GojoL0ver I saw some chinese players also arguing for more diverse skin tones, so if they manage to bring more attention to that, we could probably see some more characters have dark skin tones!! God Bless CN players
Because holy shit, they made Iansan BLACKER than an actual DARK ELF skin-tone, get your facts straight. Not to mention these facts: Teyvat =/= The Real Life's Earth, their disclaimer states that there may be things that people find offensive and they don't take the liability of it, there are various scenes that tell the players to differentiate "fiction" and "reality" multiple times. Ah, also the famous quote of "The stars, the sky... It's all a gigantic hoax. A lie." brought by yours truly; which indicates not even The Sun is real. Where the heck are they supposed to generate the so-called "Melanin" from? Bruh.
It's based on Latin American culture mostly. Nobody ever said that Nathlan is close to African countries. If they mixed different cultures and history characters it doesnt mean it's Africa now. In the interview with Mihoyo year ago, we can clearly see books about Latin America history and locations. Their artifacts are also looks like Maya/Mexico. Latinas mostly not so darker as Twitter did. So, Twitter is racists, not Mihoyo.
Making a character, based on a historical culture, black instead of white is fine because it's fiction and their own way to tell story. Making a character, based on african and south american history white instead of black is not fine, even though they are more fictional than movie characters based on historical characters 💀
America is not 'mostly black', the population is like 60% white, we make up around like 12% of the overall population. Also there are other big gacha games like FGO and Granblue Fantasy that have no issue making dark skinned characters. honestly the posts in the vid (except for Mauvika's hair, I know they were trying to go for more natural textured hair but it just looks off) actually look decent for once. Most people who try and do skin edits of genshin characters don't know how to pick brown tones properly so it looks weird as hell. People keep saying "they're not going to pull for dark skinned characters" but I want to see evidence of this. I understand the beauty standards in Asian countries, but when you have games like FGO, Azur Lane, GBF that have all been running for quite a while (GBF has been around since like 2014 and FGO since 2015) and have darker skinned characters...I fail to see how having dark skinned characters would be a bad thing. Especially if you're running a game that's GLOBAL, having more visually diverse characters will just bring in more people. There's not really a downside to it. If you're not willing to bring in characters that look like they're actually from the culture, I don't think you should be borrowing from said culture. Before someone thinks I'm saying all Natlan characters should be dark skinned, I'm not saying that. Even with black people, we run the gambit of being very stereotypically dark, to running fairly light where some people mistake them for being white. (My grandmother is that light, where during segregation she often was directed to the whites only section because of her skin tone. My mother and my oldest sister are also that light where I thought they were white when I was a kid.) I think Hoyo has some great artists, and they'd only improve by getting out of their comfort zone. But of course I'm going to have some chuds respond by talking past me. I don't hyperfixate on skin tone, but it's fucking weird if you're in a region where it makes sense to see darker skinned people and there barely is any or isn't any.
Why? Because the culture Natlan is inspired from real life countries and cultures. Like All the other regions. Of course as a white man you don't understand cause your whole life, race hasn't been apart of your life. So instead of making a stupid video about what people and their want of their cultures and backgrounds to be PROPERLY represented. Every region is not based or inspired by China or "pure fiction". Mondstadt has a lot of German design languages, names, cultural behavior and many other things. Liyue reflects China's culture perfectly. Inazuma explores and takes inspiration from Japanese culture. Sumeru has A LOT of South East Asia, Middle East, Persia and Egypt design languages, beliefs, cultures. Fontaine embraces France down to the names of the characters. So why Natlan, and Sumeru get to be the only two regions where all the inspiration is taken from cultures, but how the people who are apart of the cultures and what make the cultures, are left behind? Don't answer the question. I know you can't comprehend half of what I just said, cause you live a life where your skin color has no negative effects on you. You are white, privilege and everything in your life has already been paved out for you by your ancestors. And if Genshin shouldn't include "Political Topics" then maybe they should've design their whole game, and took inspiration from fictional worlds and went with unique cultures that don't exist in the real world.
Real France has more black people than Fontaine and no one said anything... Why is the skin color so important and hair color is not? Should they use voice actors from those regions or is it fine to use a white one for a black character? Should the characters wear traditional clothes too or that would be cultural appropriation? Where should the line between real and fictional be?
@@smartinro. Why is the skin color so important and hair color is not? - Because people of color created cultures and celebrated who they are, while WHITE people were enslaving them, killing them, or taking their lands. That's why it is important to represent skin color WITH the culture, not just the culture alone. Should they use voice actors from those regions or is it fine to use a white one for a black character? - Although it would be nice to have skilled and talented VAs of the same ethnicity/race of a character to fully diversify the roles, it isn't an issue to hire different races for different roles. Nahida is inspired by Arab, and South East Asian cultures, but her EN VA is black. It's not about who should play who, but it is about who has the most skills while making sure if there are Voice Actors of color who meet the skills, then give them the opportunity. Should the characters wear traditional clothes too or that would be cultural appropriation? - It depends on the setting. Sumeru is high fantasy, ancient style setting that took inspo from traditional clothing of Egypt, Persia, Middle East and South East Asia. It's not culture appropriation clothing wise BECAUSE it respectfully took elements of these cultures and embraced them in a fantasy setting while being respectful. HOWEVER, the skin color of which the people who wear those clothes were left behind. The same people who were met with violence BY WHITE people for their skin color being darker than white. Where should the line between real and fictional be? - It goes back to how Hoyoverse created genshin. If Genshin was not reflecting real life countries and cultures, no one would complain. It is because Hoyoverse decided to reflect their designs on pre-existing cultures in REAL LIFE, that's where the issue stems with. Look at a lot of major Animes. No one is complaining about skin culture in Demon Slayer, Madoka Magica, One Piece ... etc BECAUSE the inspiration is either taken from cultures that skin color darker than light olive rarely exist, OR it is completely unique world with unique cultures. The main issue people have is Genshin too the cultures from IRL countries, but left the people behind to appeal to people like you, who either doesn't care about complete respect other cultures, OR who ONLY see white skin tones as the ONLY appealing skin tone. This is the boycotts main issue. Fine. Don't represent people of color and their skin tones, but also don't steal their cultures and put them in your game with a WHITE coating all over it. Trust me I'd be more than happy if genshin just went full on unique cultures, and fully fictional inspirations and kept majority of their roaster pale. But because my culture (Arab) and other people's cultures are glorified and taking into a game while people like me who are a part of the culture, don't have anyone that is nearly my skin tone, then yes it is a BIG BIG ISSUE.
@@Houdinii2 In other words: everything is subjective. Sumeru is good even if women don't wear hijab, but Natlan is bad because there is no Pantone... Following that reasoning, whether something is offensive or not will always depend on a subjective factor. Ultimately, whatever you do, it will be wrong in someone's eyes. That is why the correct position will always be to do things the way you want to do them and do not try to please anyone, because there will always be someone who is not happy.
@@smartinro. I didn't say Sumeru was good. Sumeru also has the same issues as Natlan. Lack of proper representation of the people, and when represented (Candance, Cyno and Dehya) they have major flawed kits. Also, it's not subjective. In your brain it reads off as subjective, but it is as objective as it can be. If you make a nation that looks like south america and african then the characters should look south american and african. And no doing whatever I want without taking other people's backgrounds and feelings into consideration is selfish and childish. You say that, but some white people will be the first one to riot and cry over characters being black or tan like the recent little mermaid situation.
@Houdinii2 skin color is important because we want to be in the fantasy too ! So what all the cultures in the game exist but not the peoples ? ( or they are npc/enemies which send the message that 1:unimportant and 2: violent enemies) yes they can have white characters butl most/all of them white ? We can be mad
we just want a proper representation. natlan is a nation inspired by Africa and latin America, and both have a majority population of dark skin people. it wouldn't be a problem to jus have white people if the game was just inspired by china or whatever, but this is not the case. they literally made characters with African black goddesses names turning them in white. THIS IS DISRESPECTFUL. if you don't feel nothing towards it, fine, but it is a real problem even if you refuse to see it
its so wild to see ppl, asian or not, act like asia doesnt have tan or brown ppl either... this is coming from someone who is chinese and is pretty light skin (nc10 in mac foundation shade).... it's so sad to see lack of all skin variety because all shades are beautiful and helps with nice color palette in chara design...
@@solar6284 i know that in asia we also have tan or dark skin people, but in % of population its way less than other countries. Still sad that this % dont have much representation neither
I mean, the characters are inspired by African/Latin American culture. It would cool to have some characters that reflect the culture through their skin color. I’m Southeast Asian, but I still believe that having more variety/creativity through well-expressed diversity is pretty good overall! It won’t affect gameplay/lore at all :>
they are not inspired by any africa latin american culture, the devs themselve stated that they are not asociated to any culture and that its all fictional
@@bronyaenjoyer They are??? Every region is loosely based on a different culture Mondstadt-Germany, Liyue-China, Inazuma-Japan, Sumeru-India/Middle East, Fontaine-France/England…The names of the new characters reflect it too. Iansan’s name comes from Yoruba culture and there’s lots of Aztec inspiration! It’s super cool to see that in their environment as well which is mesa esque! While the world is fictional, they were of course inspired by these cultures. There’s nothing wrong with that because we pull inspiration from everywhere, just because it doesn’t exist doesn’t mean we should diminish the origins of the inspirations. (Sorry about the tangent, I just like talking about this 😊)
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@@theia-3- super cool information i dont really follow lore or whatever. There should be content about characters connection to real world maybe
@@theia-3- skin dont equal culture in latam as mexican im tired they using africa as a major part when is not the case,our culture is food,music,art,dance,folklore and language because skin for us mean nothing the people who complain cant difference between a mexican from an argentinian even when both would be wakanda level of dark (we are tan mostly btw not dark) but WE can tell and why is that ? because our cultures are different,we belong to the same race latinos but our cultures give us signs to id when someone is from chile,argentina,brazil,venezuela,el salvador,nicaragua but skin cant and thats WHY we are angry,we dont need your woke defence,we dont want it,we love the culture mihoyo is showing in the game latinos who care for cultural representation (wich is around 99% of the playerbase atm) are fighting to see how many cultures are represented in the food,people was happy to see tacos de gobernador,tortas,ceviche,etc,etc as we ignore skin colour because we know it means nothing to us as latinos also make a research first,is Mexicah not aztec since Citlali was the goddess of stars just to let you know because that dendro citizen is not the only one with a name based of a god BUT we are not macking drama because we know is just a name and not a representation of our deity since Citlali is a name used to this day (Aztec was an invented word by an american who get tired to say mexicah) sorry for the bible but im getting sick of people using skin tone as argument when they have no idea of how latam works ad they try to use us to "fix" something that not need to be fixed as I believe blackwashing is racist,we love the characters and we think are okay and thats something would matter to this people because WE are the target of the region and they ignore the majority to focus on a minority that fit their agenda and for me thats evil and also sorry for my broken english,I try my best
Nice video,people can say its bad or wrong but me as a mexican I agree,latam its a region you cant use skin tone as a fact of culture because we are the sons/daughters of spain and portugal (yes africa have little impact in our culture just for food,music and dancing) those people cant see the difference between latinos and we can and not by the colour of our skin but by the culture,all of them are different but they give us sign to see who is from each country your words are the feeling of 90-95% of the latam playerbase that agree the skin tone are okay and culture its on the food,music,art and folklore we are about to discover on 5.0 not a skin tone like they want to use as scapegoat ignoring the majority for a minority that suits their agenda tengan un lindo dia (have a nice day)
@@liliegladio6675 if its a documentary based on historical accuracy,portray as historically correct,sell and promoted like historically accurate then yes its like you asking me if cleopatra its accurate and historically correct when is not,the difference its genshin NEVER sell himself as a historical game while cleopatra sell himself as historically accurate show "based of" dont mean representation,taking inspiration its valid just like genshin is a knock off of zelda botw so this argue of "they need respect culture", its a chinese game based of a zelda game how tf you think it makes sense when is not historical all the story on genshin and the world not exist in the world
@@banhadavirus2862 they are not asking for all of them to be black and a perfect representation, but if they can do so many small details why not a bit more of a darker character . Did I ask for accurate design? No the design are gorgeous but ain't none of them are darker? Ororon is the one I don't like the most
Agree. The forcing it onto everyone makes me and many others not like it. If they wanted to voluntarily do it, then sure go ahead, just don't push it on everyone else and every franchise. They talk about authenticity when many of them mock us when we point the inauthenticity of race swapping white characters. My conspiracy is that they want to get people familiar to a replacement of country demographics. I don't think most people doing this are black, I think most are white that give guilt instilled upon them and want to virtue signal. They largely don't have a problem with the game having disproportionately higher numbers of female characters being inauthentic to sell better. It comes off as performative. People are allowed their opinion, but to dictate others and call them racist is a big no. I wish the west would ignore them because so many of our companies listen to them and they only complain more. I've seen many articles say that "review bombing" is wrong, but then when people do it for woke reasons like genshin, suddenly it's not a big deal.
As far as I'm concerned, this argument is pointless since Genshin is a fictional universe and has nothing to do with reality. I've seen a lot of people saying that Natlan should have black characters because of the hot climate of the region. But at the same time they forget that the whole universe of Genshin is fantasy and for example that all plants in Genshin can produce a special extract that will protect the shell from external influences which includes the sun. The comment is written through a translator, I apologize for possible mistakes and hope I was able to get my message through.
"has nothing to do with reality" is an idiotic position to take when every setting in the game is EXPLICITLY inspired from reality. They stole all the beauty and culture and just left the people behind.
They are so many fantasy game that doesn't take place in reality, but genshin is PROUD ond the fact that they use real cultures to represent nations in the game. So yeah not all of natlan should be black/brown/tan but all of them white? Our cultures is their but not us ? Of course they have the right to complain with our expectation of Natlan and sumeru
@@liliegladio6675 I'd appreciate it if you could share a source that says they're officially proud of it. I would be glad to read it and maybe reconsider my position.
@@Cyborg_Lenin Exactly. Inspired. They never claimed any historical accuracy. And if they have, I ask you to give me a link to a source where they have officially confirmed it and then I will reconsider my position. Otherwise my statement remains unchanged, Genshin has nothing to do with reality. All coincidences with real figures are accidental. This applies to all video games that haven't stated otherwise.
@@liliegladio6675No Chinese complained that liyue doesnt have slight yellowish skin. No Russian complained that their nation is one of the villains in the game. But ppl finds real shit when they dont give islamic and african inspired characters dark skin tone. Lol
This is an anime style game. In anime, the image is idealized, especially for female characters. It seems to me absolute nonsense to tell authors what color a character's skin should be. There is no need to politicize the game just because there is a group of idiots who only care about this aspect of the game. The game is made in the image and likeness of the authors' plans. You either put up with it or you don't. Dot
