I like the little details in this scene, at 3:02, one of the rangers who is about to help a casualty takes a moment to turn his gun's safety on. He stumbles through it a little bit, but he gets it done. It kind of emphasizes the training that these guys had been through. Even in that moment, safety off/on is something that gets remembered.
He also had a negligent discharge right there while he was lowering his weapon. Which is probably why he was like "Ahh Yeah, Probably should turn the safety on before I help this guy"
His men are getting fucked up, and he's an actual leader. Show calm and fearlessness in the heat of battle, lest those around you panic and lose the will to win the fight,.
It wasn't bad AZ... it was him being traumatized from seeing one of the guys torn in half knowing he ain't gonna make it... like being in a trance all the shots going off around him 5 10 20 ft away couldn't snap him outta it, same with dude who picked up the hand... Some he probably done 1000x reloading his rifle interrupted by something he never would imagine a comrades severed hand which he picked up so they can identify who it belongs to if they got back to base alive
@@Chavez_Soria Plenty of adults will cry at war movies line black hawk down or saving private Ryan from the emotions they feel. Just because you didn’t doesn’t mean you’re the norm.
The actors were given a familiarisation course in RASP/ RIP and the extras were I believe Rangers as well and even the Delta actors were given training in Operator Training Course you can find a video of the actors training around in youtube
I am surprised that nobody blamed the chopper that guided the convoy. He led them into road block, asked them to turn around, and at the end asked for a no-b.s. assessment.
Well to be fair the Chopper and the FOB were delayed in communication so when the chopper finally got the right coordinates the convoy had passed it 5 minutes after. It’s explained in the book.
@@genghiskahn1989 Well, it's also bullshit that some untrained starving rebels with AK's managed to succesfully ambush several groups of rangers and delta force operators.
@@somefurryguy1811 doesn't really matter how well fed and trained they are when they outnumber the other guys 20 to 1. Accuracy by volume will win over well placed shots.
@@RidgeR5 T h e y h a d a i r s u p p o r t, if they got into some tight shit they could just call for the little birds to do a gun run and those fucking miniguns are no joke when it comes to a human wave.(+ ''well placed shots'' at this point the rangers/delta dudes were pretty much shooting at everything and everybody unloading mags into crowds of people regardless if there were civilians in that crowd so it was pretty much just bad luck, basically bullshit from the universe.)
Those two guys that went down to those pilots in that downed helicopter were two of the bravest unselfish people America has ever produced. That is what duty honor country really is
The fog of war like never before. Absolutely loved this film. Grit, guts, & blood. That's life in the big city of intense combat, as so effectively depicted in this outstanding film.
@@DestinyAwaits19 A history buff- especially military history, but not only. These guys are my heroes, inspiration, the gods of the battlefield. Real men worthy of all due respect.
I forgot which veteran got interviewed that was actually there at Mogadishu…He was one of the Rangers in McKnights convoy and he said though this movie did a good job portraying how brutal it was, in real life it was much worse. That answer gave me chills cuz this is one of the gorier war movies I’ve ever seen
That scene is supposed to be connected to the Ranger that got hit by an RPG on the torso. The guy lost his left hand, and I suppose its the left hand Othic is shown picking up from the ground.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the guy at 2:52 that got shot in the back was the guy in the beginning who didn't take armor plates for his back, saying that he doesn't plan on getting shot running away. Not sure if that actually happened IRL but damn
Yes same character, but a small inaccuracy of the movie. When Ranger Body Armor was first issued, it had no pocket for a hard armor plate on the rear. Only a pocket on the front.
Inaccuracy in that Joyce's character is an amalgam of several characters/Rangers. The six previous raids were mostly uneventful - no firefights, just a few Somali militia popping off a few rounds -so most of the Rangers didn't feel the need to use the rear plate.
7.62 at that range punches through those plates anyway, so it wouldn't have mattered, 2-300m out you might be in with a chance, but at like 30m, its going max speed
I love those little details, for example: earlier before the action Joyce take away his back piece saying: "I'm not planning to get shot from behind"... and gets shot from behind. Or the Delta thrown away at 1:25? He put stickers with his blood type on his boots, while others called it 'a bad omen'. Yup, bad omen indeed.
Man's phenomonal when he wants to be. That walk through gunfire to hold the hand of his dying man was realistic as fuck. I've seen a company sgt major do exactly that with IDF and mortars pinging around.
Mark Bowden's journalistic account is gripping. Anyone who has read it it can hopefully agree that Ridley Scott managed to accomplish the unthinkable by creating a blockbuster which for the most part somehow remained literally faithful to so many of the details of that provided account while limited to a 2hr window.
One important item missed in the movie is the intensity of the firefight of the second convoy that tried getting to the Durant crash site. They only made it a few hundred yards outside the base before turning back. In their thirty minute engagement, the 10th Mountain and Rangers fired over 60,000 rounds; and still couldn't get through.
Numerous sources say Colonel McKnight already has been through a lot so in these situations he is pretty chill but he is concerned about his men, his outlook is better than someone losing his balls in a dire situation who would want a Colonel panicking midst the fight
He knew he was done, just wanted to be there so that man didn't die alone. I would assume looking at one ya fellow brothers before u die is as comforting as it could possibly be
Keep heading straight I CANT THERES A ROAD BLOCK!! Okay hold up a seconded let me think this one over (Troops falling up, left, right, center, running out of ammo) Okay keep going straight Which is why I like that pause and the frustration and annoyed "Roger that" Tom Sizemore does when he gets told to head straight
Ditomaso and the medics was one of the breavst that day. He cept shooting tecnicals in the middel of the bullet rain . And the medics ran out in the middel of the crosfire. The book is much better than the movie captures a lot more
Imagine the courage it takes to stick your whole upper body out to get on the 50 cal after seeing someone who just got shot doing the same thing, those humvees must hav great shocks to hold the weight of those guys balls fr
i remember getting this movie, free with my dads purchase of a brand new sony surround sound system. state of the art sounded like a theater.... and a plasma screen.... man this movie was awesome and the system really made it pop
3:11 The fact that we just looked at a man severed in half, and another man take a bullet through center mass, and then "fucking" is bleeped out, just tells a lot about our culture. Words are offensive, people dying graphically is not. I hope that next school shooter makes sure to mind their language or their live stream might get demonetized.
I love this movie and movies like 13 Hours as it shows grit and determination and a true sense of brotherhood. The Americans in both movies were grossly out numbered. But the brave soldiers whose backs were up against the wall and the clock prevailed in both. True stories dramatized for theater for sure, but the cause and effects and the results are true and cannot be disputed. Americans held on, saved lives and evaded and escaped against unbelievable odds.
"Do you see the black hawk?" "All I see are road blocks?" "Well dam that's not really my problem I'm up here in a helicopter with sand in my mouth. So we all got problems, some of mine bigger than yours."
@@pedrowalter633 I'm poking fun at the guys in the scout helicopter since their problems are obviously not as bad as the guy's on the ground. Having people shoot and kill your guys is definitely worse than having sand in your mouth while having full view of the city from the sky.
when i was younger and enlisted i would get furious at his indifference. As Ive gotten older and commissioned, Ive learned how maintaining calm is critical if youre not the one down there in the shit. I still think his tone is pretty tonedeaf giving whats happening in the movie but I understand it doesn't come from an "Idgaf about you guys" perspective.
I love seeing people malding in the comments about swearing in the movie being censored despite the gore, despite the fact that this channel was the one who censored the swearing not the movie makers
The humvee convoy trying to get to the crash site while being fired on from all sides was no doubt the most stress-inducing part of this story. Of all the soldiers who fought that day, I envy these the least. I would much rather be Grimes, who is seeing combat for the first time in his life, than be in one of those humvees.
I don't think any military unit could have done any better. Stuck in the middle of the city, surrounded. Delta was there, doesn't get much better than them. Poor planning. The complete disregard of all intel indicating this raid was a bad idea. But I get the rivalry. Any opportunity to dump on a sister service.
Back then there were more films like this now everything is all sensitize I don't know why I don't know what the agenda is maybe mind control I really don't know this was such a great film and realistic as well to put you in the Soldier's perspective what they went through that day
My Dad went to a Food Safety Course and there was this guy who missed the bus and ran it down, forcing his way onto the bus. He never talked but it turns out he was actually there in Mogadishu.
This is one of many military blunders of the modern era, for the US. On the one hand, it's very difficult not to sympathize with our soldiers for being put in this situation, by their superiors. However, this is yet another example of the US interfering in situations where they didn't belong.
I'm sure they did the best they could 😏 them way up there in the safe choppers while they leading the ground forces in right where the enemy wants them
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I never noticed it before, but there's a ranger manning the gun from 1:17 - 1:19 who gets hit, in the same manner that Sgt Pilla did.. Having to man that thing in such an environment, with no shielding? Takes some serious balls
I believe the Humvees were modified to give a lot more protection to the gunner but having the enemy on high ground is never good. The US/UN should have secured many of those buildings for the escape route. It was the US side that messed up. Should have engaged the help of the Malaysians much sooner.
You think this was the first time they dealt with this kind of warfare? I trained in what we called MOUT city with the 82nd back in the 80s and it was known and trained for decades before then
3:12 I find it extremely strange that you have a clip showing graphic unfiltered war themes depicting violent death, yet still find the need to censor a bad word.
Thousands of marines were pulled out of Somalia in early 1993 because it was believed that the situation had become stable. That's when Aideed's forces came out of hiding and started targeting American soldiers. The Clinton administration wasn't about to smear egg on their own faces by sending those thousands of Marines back into Somalia. That would be admitting that they screwed up by sending them home in the first place. Instead, they slipped in a small contingent of Rangers and Delta to conduct missions. Since the administration wanted to lay low with the deployment of Task Force Ranger, they denied them extra helicopters, another company of Rangers, and a C-130 Spector Gunship. All that would have revealed that the U.S. was upscaling their presence of force in Somalia. Never mind that it put the task force in a very vulnerable position. When the cheese hit the fan, a Spector gunship would have easily carved an ally way back to base for the convey. But the didn't have a Spector Gunship. All they had was what they carried in, a few birds from TF-160 (the rock stars of helicopter aviation) , and they're own balls to get them out. They didn't need more people. They needed the equipment that they actually train with, but were denied.
Sounds like Afghanistan when I was there, though, to be fair, we needed the people too. The political winds on Afghanistan had shifted. No one cared about winning anymore, politicians just didn't want to get embarrassed before a reelection, so we were given the minimum possible to prevent an outright defeat. It was mind-numbingly stupid, but the people in uniform who actually understood the situation, and could have called out the BS were forbidden from doing so by law (the UCMJ). Welcome to the American way to wage war.
@Thomas Dudley The military is kept under control through the constant threat of legal action. You refuse to do something? You're going to jail. You speak out against the politicians who are running the show? You could go to jail. At best, you're probably getting fired with a dishonorable discharge and your life is ruined. Even if you just reveal incompetence by your immediate superiors, you can be charged under a host of laws in the UCMJ. We occasionally got some help in telling the story that we couldn't tell, like Vice putting out the documentary "This is What Winning Looks Like", or the Intelligence Community issuing reports that tell it how it is, but the military itself creates enormous legal barriers to its members giving honest commentary on the nature of the wars they fight in. It didn't help that most of the media were incompetent, lacked an even basic understanding of military strategy, and only wanted to write about Afghan women's issues and push the narrative that the military was full of war criminals every time someone accused us of hitting a civilian with a bomb (many of which accusations were blatant lies being pushed for information warfare purposes). There was precious little intelligent critique of U.S. strategy by the press.
@Thomas Dudley If people were incompetent at your workplace, would you go to prison to report it? Keep in mind we're talking about poor policy decisions, not explicit wrongdoing/criminal behavior. What if you had a wife and kids to provide for? What if you were 19 and had no adult life experience outside of your current job? What if every indication was that the American public was apathetic and wouldn't even care? That's a lot to ask someone to sacrifice for very little gained. However, I'm less defending military members not saying anything, and more trying to explain why they don't. Ultimately, the UCMJ was designed to keep the military obedient and under civilian control, and there are some good reasons for that, but the current legal structure of the military also prevents valid criticism of the way wars are fought from the people who are best positioned to understand the situation and the strategy. If we actually want something to change, simply expecting poor enlisted folk and junior officers to constantly put their livelihoods and freedom in danger, as well their lives while in combat, is not going to solve the problem.
"That's when Aideed's forces came out of hiding and started targeting American soldiers" Funny way of saying the US decided to avenge the death of Pakistanis by shooting 16 TOW missiles into a huge meeting of Habr Gidr clan elders on July 12th, 1993 and caused the whole city to coalesce around a Aidid who then began attacking US troops for the first time. Killed off all the SNA moderates who wanted to make a diplomatic resolution with the UN, and then get shocked the SNA begins killing Americans. Bravo.
The C-130 would of been a mess in the city, there were a lot of civilian casualties already, before the mission, some cobras killed a bunch of respected elders from different clans that were negotiating the situation, so is it was easy to view any kind of external force as an enemy.
In the first part of the movie where they prepare for this operation, that soldier said he doesn't wanna carry a armor in the vest kinda irony he got shot right in the back this part. RIP
That actor's character is in a scene seen conversing with Ewan McGregor's character while removing the front & back ceramic plates that go into the body armor. His reasoning was that since the mission was supposed to be quick and easy, and that they already were carrying so much gear, that he didn't need even more additional weight as is. Ewan McGregor's character opts to keep his in.
He took his armor out earlier in the film. Said something along the lines of, "got 50 lbs of gear as it is, dont need another twelve, and I don't plan on getting shot in the back while running away". Which was ironic cause he was shot in the back while fighting. He was also one the 19 men actually died in the fighting.
Allahu naxariisto to everyone who fought and died that day. May the memories of the sheikhs and elders killed on July 12th, 1993 Bloody Monday never be forgotten either.
