6:52: I. What is Blackness? 8:35 II. Culture and Ethnicity in Psychoanalysis 11:04 III. The Outsider in Psychanalysis 17:35 VI Racism and Micro-aggressions 20:25 VII. Othering 23:00 VIII. Enriching Psychanalysis 27:02 IX. Curriculum 31:43 X. Cross-Cultural Analysis 36:43 XI. Blacks in Psychoanalysis are a Rounding Error 46:38 XII. Psychoanalysis in Society 51:33 XIII. Looking to the Future
This is the 4th time viewing this. A psychotherapist in training, I can't seem to get enough. This video dares to say what has never been said, names what has never been named. Brilliant! For anyone who seeks to understand current social dilemas, this video sends a message to the world about the potential and possiblities of the human condition. Please do more.
As a psychotherapist in training, I’m willing to bet all of my money that the issues outined in this documentary regarding a lack of focus on issues of race did not apply to your experience in school. In fact, I’d bet it was the single most commonly addressed topic. How many years old is this doc? It’s comedically outdated.
@@rudeboyjim2684 It is addressed in that it is discussed endlessly. We talk about our privilege. We talk about our different experiences, coming from privilege or disadvantage. We talk about discrimination and unconscious bias. We talk about power inequality. We talk about the worse mental health of the disadvantage. But there is very little connecting the dots between the theory of psychoanalysis and psychopathology with the potential different sources of mental illness depending on our backgrounds. That is, there has been very little effort to identify how psychopathology manifests across different groups, how interventions need to be tailored as a result of these differences, and what even the existence of such differences says about the nature of our already existing categories of mental illness. What is the difference between a depression resulting from your parents not recognizing the true nature of who you are, and a depression resulting from a society's not recognizing the true nature of who you are? What if you want to be someone who stares at spreadsheets all day, but the only public images of people who look like you are of athletes, entertainers, politicians, and criminals?
@@epasato Ok, let me respond to your points one by one (apologies for the incoming long response, but I feel your comment warrants it.) First of all, I completely understand that growing up outside of the dominant culture can be tremendously otherizing. I also know that it is true that many black intellectuals find today's race-fixation to be both patronizing and otherizing in its own right, but that's another issue. However, there are a couple issues with what you're saying as far as what I can tell, and if you disagree I'm certainly open to hearing why. 1) First, I can't help but notice that your comments seem to indicate that you yourself completely reject the premise of this documentary ("race is taboo") and the bally-hoo of uniform comments below claiming that race is an underrepresented point of discussion within the mental-health community--but that's not a commentary on you personal views. 2) You say "there is very little connecting the dots between the theory of psychoanalysis and psychopathology with the potential different sources of mental illness depending on our backgrounds". I can say with certainty that this is, in fact, the primary prism through which race and mental health are viewed within an academic context. The interfacing of multiculturalism, race, and mental health is the foundational principle upon which the curriculum is built. ,and these lessons span a range of different classes, all of which present slight variations on how race, culture (and very seldom, poverty), impact the lives of those within minority populations. 3) The questions you pose are interesting questions, and many of them are brought up within the multiculturalism material infused into the curriculum of every single MHC course (gestalt, psychodynamic, CBT etc.). However, it seems to me that whatever lack of nuance or complete understanding around topics of race that afflict the mental health community is considerably more pronounced in virtually every other area (since race is the most widely discussed topic). For example, when is depression a neurological condition vs when is it an adaptive response to maladaptive living conditions? There's no distinction in the DSM, surely we should talk about this. How does poverty effect self-esteem, and how does mainstream culture stigmatize poverty? How does class and social stature mediate one's experience as a black man, an asian man, or a white man? Why do white men commit suicide at higher rates than the rest of the population? Who is more at risk of developing co-morbid mental health conditions, a wealthy black woman or a poor white man? Surely the answers should inform our conceptions of how race and mental health interact, but we don't touch the question!! Of course these are just a few pop-corn questions that probably merit a mention in our short, 2-year degree. . The point is that race is important, it has been underrepresented and dismissed in the past which is absolutely awful, and diverse populations certainly deserve to be represented in any mental health curriculum with empathy, cultural and racial sensitivity and nuance. However, as long as an education should seek to maximize competence as mental health counselors, where is the empirical data that suggests that we should focus MORE on race than on any other topic? And how can we increase depth in the context of a two year degree in a wide range of important subjects? And lastly, how can we even make progress along side people who apparently still think that race is taboo in academia despite the conspicuous reality, I'm not trying to be snarky and I'm sorry in advance if I come across this way, but I find this comment section to be an echo-chamber of well-meaning delusion that threatens our very capacity to care about what is true, whatever it may be. I'm very left-wing btw, lest I be confused for some kind of racism denialist or something.
This is very worthwhile for all Professionals. I grew up analytically under Karen Horney's feminist work, which was a huge issue in the 30's and 40's, and found my actual therapeutic work over 45+ years was actually spent in East Harlem and the South Bronx. The kinds of societal blocks that working with "others" entail require a special affective readiness to look within the self. That is in my opinion why a good training analysis is so vital to our work. As a Jew, I worked successfully for a number of years with a man who had been a Nazi during the war. After getting into his past experience, he asked how it was to treat a former Nazi, and I asked how it was to work with Jew, and we decided that the alliance is a very personal one-to-one experience. This could not happen without the willingness to look into yourself. This video touched that beautifully!
I hope this film can be shown on all Psychoanalytic trainings, and not just as a 'token' acknowledgement, but as a start to incorporating the subject matter right into the Curriculum. Thank you for the film..
I’m a psychology undergrad but watching professionals talk about their struggles, experiences and successes and being able to see them talk about the problems I have already seen within the field in general not just in psychoanalysis was not only educational but validating.
I am a Cuban American Biracial Clinical Psychologist presently living in Miami, Florida and I believe that these issue are extremely interesting. And, since I began my studies in psychology from my Bachelors through my Doctoral; I have been interested in Psychoanalysis because, it deals and focus on the innermost and help the individual to a wholeness aspect to integrate themselves to other things that ARE NOT known to them are it produces fear. I have a non-profit organization and I work with HIV/AIDS, Domestic Violence, Human Trafficking, child abuse and I am accepted because, I speak their language and their culture and providing them with the empowerment that psychoanalysis provide them their growth is amazing. Thank you, for this great video which I will be also incorporating in my university courses . Dr. Zayas
My boss is a cuban but born here, he is also much younger than me, but clearly has white supremacist views and ideologies deep seated in his mind. I have called him out on these issues on multiple occasions. I am not sure how to connect with him to form a healthy and productive work relationship. Another issue is my love and attraction to Cuba and Fidel Castro as I have learned about him VS. What the popular opinions are concerning him. This also is a sore spot in our relationship. He wont hear anything about Fidel nor aid to the Cuban people now...Fidel has been dead a long time.
This is an important and necessary video. The discussion is thoughtful, and deep. Ideally, this should be incorporated in all psychoanalytic institute curricula.
Yes, I'm so glad I came across this! No idea why this ended up in my suggestion page, but I'm hoping it turns up there for many more people. less than 14k views is really way too few.
Well done Basia. It’s great that this crucial and much needed content is finally available for the public. Last year I gladly paid about 10$ to see this. We need more of this content. This film/documentary should be 4hours long, a directors cut. 😉
Amazing and important documentary. I hope that this will open a conversation in the institutes all over the world and will help in making psychoanalysis accessible to the poorer communities.
30 year practicing psychotherapist here. Thank you, thank you thank you. I wish I had immortality and the finances to sit and learn from each of these wise teachers.
I am a psychiatric social and this disscussion is relevant in all areas particularly in training institutions for all mental health professionals . It is so sad to see the profit focus take over services with a push to do more in less time. Thank you for posting.
This is an extraordinary video for many reasons. I found it enlightening, challenging, rewarding and ultimately very hopeful. My thanks to all tjhe contributors for being so open and thoughtful.
Important and relevant points that support the need for cultural awareness of all therapists. The inability to see our differences culturally is a barrier to effective counseling. Issues are addressed but the question remains do you "see" who I am? Thank you for posting this video we need more of this.
Hello Basia. Thank you very much for sharing your work. I can say with admiration that it is a necessary dialogue. In a last broadcast of my channel, I have talked about it and recommended it. Greetings from a Mexican psychoanalyst. Octavio R. Solís
Thank you!! Very interesting work. Have you see Psychoanalysis in el Barrio? It's not available for free unfortunately, but a few excerpts are on my RU-vid channel. I may try to post more soon.
@@BasiaWinograd Hello, thank you very much again. I haven't seen that documentary in full yet, I have seen the excerpts you uploaded about it. It's certainly one I'd like to talk about in the near future. You are very kind, of course I will send you the clip to your email so you can share it, thank you for your work, I would love to keep in touch. Octavio R. Solis
This whole video was great and anyone in the field and outside of the field can take away something from it. I want to point out something that Jama Adams said about how psychoanalysis does not focus on community and solely on the individual. I believe psychoanalysis could extend itself if it incorporated more of an individuals relationship with their community. Individuals that come from a collectivistic culture tend to have a self-concept that is interdependent of their surrounding social context.
Wow, this is amazing. It needs to be on PBS. It needs to be on the major networks, actually, but let's be realistic and start with public broadcasting. :)
I am thankful for my privilege. As a home health nurse I saw the inequality my elderly and young black patients I grew close too and loved dearly. Sometines I was met with suspicion and contemp. I profiled as a typical southern white woman. But, I cannot think of a time we got passed that. People sense when you truly care and genuinely want to learn of another's culture . I was their advocate and frankly they were my advocate in certain situations. I am now retired, getting my Masters in Counseling.I want to work with the underpriviledge, primarily domestic abuse because I was a victim myself. I lived in a safe house for 3 months, the only white person. There is so much need to advocate for domestic abuse.
It would be really really interesting if the perspective of Dr Frances Cress Welsing were discussed here. I much appreciate these diverse comments. Well done...
Woah. Has anyone set foot in a behavioral sciences course in the last year? It’s amazing to hear from these older psychologists in light of the fact that today, race, diversity, and cultural sensitivity are by FAR the most commonly discussed topics mental health counselors are exposed to, nation-wide. Interesting to hear these psychologists speak about a previous (yet recent) era in which discussions of race were treated as taboo, rather than as the main course.
I would say that there’s been progress but it’s still not fully incorporated or integrated as it should be. As a current black psychology undergrad student I can still relate to many of their experiences both from expecting therapy and in academia. Those experiences that I haven’t (yet) experiences have been the experiences of my black and poc peers in academia. Race is very much still taboo/ignored in academic spaces. I see it everyday. The experience of having to constantly explain your experiences in classes because your textbook and course has such a shallow explanation to a class of white academics is still very othering and very tiring. The micro aggressions and the way colleges, universities and other academic institutions structure their course schedules so that you get by with very minimal training in cultural and racial issues is still very prevalent. I am still an undergrad but It should start in undergrad.
@@solarmoth4628 I can’t relate to your experience because I am not black, and I of course don’t know what it’s like to be black. The only thing I do know for certain is that race is the single most prevalent topic. I’m not sure I am able to wrap my head around the paradox of race simultaneously being taboo AND the most popular topic of discussion at the same time, as those seem like contrary realities. This isn’t to say that there aren’t racist people, or people who don’t understand the psychological impact of being outside the dominant culture. I’m sure that, despite my empathy and all of my cultural diversity training, I still do not understand. I do know, however, that race is discussed constantly, and poverty is discussed rarely. And I don’t know as if there is any evidence to suggest that poverty is less important or less impactful than race. I’m Jewish, and Judaism, for example, is barely discussed, and not because anti-Semitism is rare. But also, psychodynamic theory is only a one semester course. Is this because psychodynamic counseling is unimportant? We don’t have a mandatory course in feminist therapy, or in drama therapy either. Perhaps the degree should take longer to achieve in order to maximize competence. Either way, race is certainly very important. But taboo? I’m incapable of understanding this perspective-unless perhaps you live somewhere that is conservative in which case that changes everything.
@@epasato I think it’s because I left two comments on this thread and you’re responding to the other comment, not the one you originally commented to. I can’t speak to PhD psychoanalytic training, so if that’s true then I’m sorry to hear that. It sounded like based on what you were saying, race is discussed very frequently. But to the extent that its impact is discouraged from discourse, that is A) a shame and B) starkly different from other academic settings and HR departments. I hope poverty becomes integrated into the course material along with race as soon as possible.
I have A Question for All the European/white people. I several comments where you all say this video is moving, needed, brilliant, that it points out the racism in psychoanalyst institutions and all institutions where Europeans are the heads, societies where Europeans are in control racism exist. I want to know what are the ones who say this video is moving, what does it move you to do? So often Europeans/white people hear our stories of racism and white supremacy in our everyday life, yet you all just hear the stories and say you have sympathy and empathy but does it move you all (Europeans/whites) to collectively do something about it and not just feel where we are coming from or have sympathy. African Descent/Black People didn’t create this condition and we are not responsible for dismantling it! To the contrary every time we try to dismantle racism and false white supremacy our leaders Get killed by the government because white ppl don’t want racism and white supremacy and white privilege to end. So I ask what do you all feel is your duty to end these conditions??
I cannot imagine what an enlightening course where there is open discussion with a professor from another culture. Universities must be afraid of change or the powers at be are prejudice?
Hey Basia. We need a podcast and a conversation with the black psychoanalysts about these topics. And specifically about whiteness and it’s destructive power. We need a continuous conversation about psychoanalysis in relation to community or more frankly about the lack of engagement to community. Cheers.
When the professor spoke about pioneering and self preservation being the only black person with whites, I think it’s because to deal with whites peacefully has always required us to give up who we are, our identity.
A friend of mine was recently asked, by therapist, if there were any cultural points or factors that might be considered in their future sessions. When my friend mentioned that they are black and that that was a cultural touch point they were told by this therapist that their blackness was 'not really' cultural and that that them being black wasn't really a cultural issue. It struck us both that the therapist was probably just terrified of a conversation that involved race. As a white person whenever I bring issues of race up to white therapists I'm told that I should stop focusing on it and that I am misdirecting or projecting.
Esta película debería ser la apertura de un curso inicial en el proceso de formacion de psicoanalistas y psicoterapeutas en el mundo, en america latina con variantes el tema es fundamental pues sino el psicoanálisis que nació desde el conflicto y la marginación, morirá desperdigado en pequeñas sectas”teóricas “
Cecilia, you might be interested in this project, which focuses on Latinos and psychoanalysis, is free for the next two weeks: www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=pepgrantvs.001.0010a
My advantage of view reveals that the history of our struggle/community self-perfecting engagements have included every branch (profoundly successful) in the public sphere except (with respect to addressing racial justice mono y mono)
Also, fyi, the author of this communication is a Veteran of the Vietnam Era by the name of Larry Wooten (otherwise info is honest)...we as a people must as a species break bread with our inside self!
I wonder what is meant by browner? By the way my family has always used the nickname Brown, Red Tedda, Red and Yella for other family members. A friend who is not of African descendant was upset with some of our mutual brown friends. This man told black jokes to has family while traveling. Mainly about black women and their hair. I don't understand. He has been a victims of a cast system and still is psychologically. Why would he do this? I'm aware of the fact that people fight not to be placed "last" on the social ladder. As they live in America the "last" becomes the African American. It becomes OK with the racial system here in America. It's easy to jump right into, unfortunately. You see it all the time. Look at who own the stores in certain neighborhood. We don't realize how racism bleeds into the world. ...and among peoples who have suffered.
A timely video. I suggest to the powers that sit in international psychoanalytic platforms to escalate this talk of "blackness" and "jewishness" and merge it with a global "above-the-surface" discussion about the experiences of "non-whites", about the savagery inflicted on vulnerable non-white populations by the ancestral psychopathology of the white race collective. The "other" has always been a receiver of wrongdoings by the resourceful and powerful. We have colluded, and overstayed from 1945, to leave below-the-surface all the toxic material - the painful emotional residues of abuse and brutalization - that the human race experienced, both white and non-white races. Such collusion helps retain the several splits in the psychoanalytic community, and creates intellectual hegemonies from where exchanges such as this video, between white and non-white psychoanalysts, will continue to happen. Is there a platform where we can sit together and talk about the delusional psychoanalytic mask of the "white supremacist" collective, when history written by subaltern historians provides contrarian evidence?
P.S.: Racial Injustice that is...to that end, I have experienced and am continuing to experience the most profound effects of what the U.S. Intelligence Community imposes upon U.S. Citizens of color as a matter of S.O.P.
What has been invisible to our most oppressed is our psychoanalyst voice. I present myself to your community as a premier source that has sustained jostling with DOJ for almost 20years (P.S.: That is to say a DOJ that seeks to exploit the psyche' of humanity) After gathering of data in the magnitudes imagination presents as a steadfastly creditable witness; process concludes subject (DOJ); specifically 'NSA' ; and more specifically, FBI, sums to the equivalent of the 'Wizard of Oz with a severe degree of chicken - head Crack addition.
So, which comes first, the bad behavior imprinting on minds and expectations and culture, or culture imprinting on individuals to explain bad behavior? If you choose the latter, why are certain groups, like enslaved Irish, Chinese, Jews, and MANY others, realized success during the past thousand or so years? WHEN can the epigentic perpetuation of victim-hood end? When does the extremely group-level, bad behaviors among certain groups get stopped by truth and honest and compulsory interventions? When do ALL preservation and competitively biased expectations, behaviors, defenses, desire to compete, advance human species, and reactions get applied to ALL individuals in ALL groups? Why do certain groups get special treatment while competitive and successful and moral whites, as a group, need to experience destruction and discrimination (do NOT quote history unless going back thousands of years AND using the MANY unbiased variables)?
To control of your own mind is power in it self. So that power will never be relinquished to those who have not, it has to me cultivated, and owned earned learnt. If the masses become awakened to the power of their own mind How much would this planet change? As world species we are still unevolved, and far from achieving higher in the Kardashev scale. "Primitive" if I was an alien that's what would say 😂 😅😅😅😅😅 Respectfully 😮😅
@londonbowcat1 Got it...complimented with Charles Mills... How accurate/applicable would you say the observation by Mr. Fuller is today compared to when it was when originally penned?
Postmodernism is a religion. Critical race theory is a cult-like sect of this hyper-intellectualized and divisive religion. If race or culture emerges in the treatment, it should be explored, following the patient's lead for as long as the patient feels the need to do so. Pitting identities against each other based on skin color and re-naming things with opaque neo-logistic terms is destructive to progressive emotional communication. Beatifying victimhood by who can publically virtue signal as most offended is a selfish nontherapeutic endeavor. It is not psychoanalysis.
I invite you to view the video -- I think you'll find the analysts would agree. In some places the dialogue is set up as a debate. There's nothing about critical race theory here. What I think the interviews are pointing out is that there certain themes that analysts defend against, can't hear, even react violently to. (This was made in 2014 -- I do think a lot has changed since then.) As for neologisms, I do think they can be divisive when not everyone is familiar with them, but I also think psychoanalysis has invented many new words that have helped us understand human behavior. I imagine that even words like projection or transference were once neologisms which shut some people out of the conversation, but they've been taken up by ever greater numbers of people who use them to help express themselves. I don't know what the definition of psychoanalysis actually is, but I've heard "making the unconscious conscious," and I believe psychoanalysis is a lens through which to understand ourselves and how we relate to the "other," whether that other is someone of a different race, an immigrant, of a different social class, etc.
@@BasiaWinograd They use the language and terminology of postmodernism and CRT. This is not "new" terminology. This has nothing to do with psychoanalysis. I'm all for making the unconscious conscious, but this is not it. The same old tired cultural Marxism is the "psycho" without the "analysis." Moving on...
