Blackmagic Camera App and DaVinci Cloud Projects - Resolve 18.6 HANDS ON 

Thanks so much Darren, looking forward to seeing you at IBC.

Thanks so much, that's really kind of you to say. Great to have you here.

They are good to us!

Absolutely!@@team2films

@@team2films A company that treats their customers with

Almost like adobe

Thanks, that’s really kind of you to say.

Thank-you Martin. That's kind of you to say, it's great to have you here.

Thanks so much Casey. We’ve learnt so much from your video over the years.

Thank you Jim. Your kind comments and support is always appreciated.

Thanks so much. Glad you are enjoying the videos. You're going to love these new features.

Yeah, they are really knocking it out of the park :)

Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes it’s huge. Works simply but must have taken a lot of effort to develop.

Thanks Glenn. Appreciate you saying that.

So glad you are finding the videos helpful. Thanks for watching through some of our back catalog too.

Thanks so much, that's kind of you. There's some other great trainers out there too. Hoping to make a video with recommendations soon.

That’s an awesome idea. Thanks for watching.

It's possible that if one has the ability to transfer the footage from the drone to their phone wirelessly, that one could simply move the drone footage from where ever it gets put on the phone to the phones Blackmagic cloud synced folder, and have it upload from there. While note as direct ad the app it should only be a couple extra steps if one has that type of feature.

@@billyoung9538 DJI will cache low resolution (proxies) and that could be linked to the camera roll. Haven't tinkered with BMC enough but it is something to try. The phone/pad to cloud connection with the new app is really awesome in the production speed aspect it enables. A DJI import function in BMC would be awesome without a file transfer dance with the phone or pad. Great idea though. Time to get hacking.

Thanks Russ. That’s kind of you to say.

Pleasure!

Thanks Tony. That’s very much appreciated.

Awesome. Let us know how it goes!

No good with the app. It only supports Iphone 11 and above. Might have to get a new phone :-)

Thanks so much.

Thanks so much Alex. Shot the ProRes on an iPad M2 Pro. That’s what we used for the screen cap. ProRes is available on the 13 pro and above. Thanks for watching and commenting. It’s appreciated.

@@team2filmsah I did wonder perhaps if that’s what you did I think the aspect of the screen capture looks like it was on the iPhone. 05:11:00 so I think that was where I misunderstood. You’re absolutely right…might have to upgrade the phone now! Darn! 👍🏻

@@AlexCameron-Depiqd sorry! That’s an iPad screen recording faked onto an iPhone screen! Shhh, don’t tell anyone.

Can’t wait!!

Good questions. It’s possible to trigger the upload of the originals later on both the camera and app. It’s in the playback menu. Or you can simply transfer the footage via cable or via card to your computer and relink them later. Hope that helps.

Thanks!

Pleasure

It’s really amazing. And this is only v1!

Yes, exactly. That’s how it works. Someone other than the editor can connect with the camera and upload their footage.

Proxies are always prioritised. Once created they take priority over original media. The queues are dynamically adjusted. Hope that helps

Good shout. I’ll fix that.

Glad the video was helpful. You might get better control of your audio when using an external audio device. Plus devices like the Rode Wireless Go give you the ability to attenuate audio before it hits the iPhone.

@@team2films yeah, you are right. I've finally found that although there is no limiter on the iPhone mic (it's easily in the reds), you can adjust audio level with an external mic. You can even re-adjust it while recording. And - it took me some time to realise that you have to tap on "headset mic" instead of leaving it on iPhone mic!

Yes, that's correct. Proxies are a low quality version of your footage designed to sync quicker and play easier. You'll want to create your final exports from the original files.

@@team2films great! so I guess if I choose "original & proxies" on the app... I will have 2 files on the "media" (weather my phone of Davinci if I use the cloud....). I know how to use proxies in Davinci, I just wanted to know how is the workflow when is done through the app: when I take the files to Davinci (from the App to the NLE), I just use the same steps as always...? (Davinci gives me the option to switch back & forth ...?)

@@wildpatagoniafilms16 yes, its a normal workflow if you import the files yourself. Proxies are usually kept hidden from you though. So you’re never really aware of them and can work like you have a single file.

@@team2films 🙏

Yeah, it's incredible for a 'minor release'. We're hoping to do some end-to-end workflow videos on this feature soon... but we want to do it properly so it will take a while to plan.

Great point! A lot of people have been looking for the option and not found it because their phone is older. 🙁

ProRes is only available on recent pro models. Thanks so much for watching

It’s a wooden block. But there are places that sell nice 3d printed stands.

Not currently. But the blackmagic camera app has a clean hdmi output.

The app does not have any external recording functionality. Sorry! The URSA G2 can upload its footage via a connected phone though. And hopefully the cloud functionality will be bought to other BM cameras like the 6k soon too.

Excellent question. I’ve not played with that myself. Here’s what I do know… uii connect a phone or network adapter via usb c. There is an interface and menu page on the camera. You can set up your account with a qr code. I want to get my hands on that and play for myself though.

Thanks Pieter.

You are welcome. Thanks for watching.

Pleasure

Unfortunately no. A cloud-based project library is required for remote camera syncing. The 2gb on the free account is used for hosting presentations. Thanks for watching.

That sounds unusual. I’m sure there is a solution.

Yes. If it's not out already, I think it will be out soon. And to your second question, yes.

Only the project owner needs to pay for storage. This is one of the things that makes the price so amazing. You can share your storage with upto 30 users currently. And yes, users can set their own sync preferences, so if someone wishes they can have only the proxies sync. Even if you select originals as well, the proxies always sync first.

Sorry to hear you are having problems. The official forums might be a good place to look for help. Sorry, we have no idea what might be causing your problem.

@@team2films Np, I figured it out. So it was because of the 2gb plan. I upgraded to the 500gb plan and it worked right away.

We'll make some tutorials on our workflows later this year.

Hello! The iPhone Pro records Rec709, AppleLog, or Rec2020. Rec709 has a gamma of 2.4, and Rec2020 has a PQ EOTF.

@@team2films I'm shooting with Rec2020. My apologies I google'd "PQ EOTF" but it's no 100% clear for me atm. My question though is what's the correct input gamma for my footage (in the CST). "Input gamma Rec 709" seems to be working atm.

@@_thewatcher27 Ah yeah, for sure that can be a complex topic to get your head around. The simple answer will be, if it looks right, it is right. Here's a more technical answer: If you are shooting Rec 2020, the correct input colour space will be Rec 2020. If you are shooting Rec 709, the correct input colour space will be Rec 709. Gamma 2.4 is an 'Electro Optical Transfer Function'. As such it is a component of a colour space. Rec 709 is a standard that combines Gamma 2.4 (a way of encoding brightness information) with the Rec709 Color primaries (a way of encoding colour information). In the Blackmagic Camera App, goto settings, record, colour space. Here you can choose whether you are shooting Rec 709, Rec 2100 (mistakenly called Rec 2020 - HDR), P3 D65, or Apple Log. Please note some options like Apple Log are only available on the iPhone 15 Pro. That will allow you to configure which colour space your phone is recording in. Have you watched our master class on colour management? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-w0ubDSzEEYg.htmlsi=0E9-YgNwQqbPe4fc

Sorry! That doesn’t sound normal. It’s difficult to diagnose without knowing more though. Sorry

Ah, sorry about that. Hopefully soon. Thanks so much for watching.

Of course. Please come on by the stand.

Thank-you so much. Great to have you here.

@@team2films Did you see in the resolve 18.6 release notes, they already added support for Apple Log video format... So, BMD Camera iPhone app + Cloud Storage + native support for Apple Log, its gonna be the best workflow around, I think, oh yeah, it also includes timecodes and metadata! This is just an insanely optimized workflow, where you could have a bunch of time synced iphones filming an event, all uploading proxies to an editor, and (I hope) have color management on the log footage... The video where Grant Petty showed this off was so cool, and how we was saying that stories could have video updated as it comes in, to have the latest. I just love this company, and your videos are just truly on another level. Super professional and well done. I hope you do more videos on these features.

Yes, that's true. It requires a chip inside the phone. Braw is a good question. Apple Log is available on the new iPhone 15.

‘Blackmagic Camera’ Perhaps it takes longer to appear in some regions than others? You’re going to love it. Thanks for watching and commenting.

Yeah, that’s a great idea. Hopefully more functionality will be added in the future.

We are not aware of any specific support by the camera app for gimbals.

Yes, absolutely. Cloud Projects are amazing for collaborative workflows with remote editors.

There’s a lot to be excited about 👍😊

That’s a really good question. A frame mask for 16:9 is not necessary as the camera shoots it natively. Just turn the frame mask off with the control at the top. Thanks for watching.

@@team2films - Thank you! That makes so much sense but is also kind of illogical when you see the multitude of optional aspect ratios that you can set it to. Or is it just me? 🤣

@@DellanaMetalArts It confused us at first too! You are not alone :)

Maybe more practical than you’d think! The app prioritises proxies first so editors can get working straight away. With a 5g or even 4g connection, footage moves really quickly. You can even get sims with unlimited data. You can always connect to wifi to finish your uploads. And whatever the cost or time, for a lot of pro workflows, its going to be cheaper and way quicker than driving cards back to the office or couriering a drive.

You can record in log on the iPhone 15 pro 👍

I don’t think that’s fully implemented yet. But eventually 👍

There’s settings that allow you to choose whether or not the originals get uploaded too. It’s in the settings page in the app on your phone

It’s already possible to host your own media and library database on a network! You could then make a VPN to tunnel in from remote locations.

Yeah, that would be great. Thanks so much for watching.

@@team2films Same here I'm Android user and have always been

I was actually curious about that, because they released resolve for iPad, and now this new camera app, they were featured in an Apple Keynote and usually their software is shown in the background even though apple has a kind of competing product in FCP...they actually started this whole awesome company in 2001 selling a capture card for MacOS called Decklink, so I guess they have been Apple fans since the beginning Would be cool to have for android as well, but the range of devices is just so huge, it would be hard to standardize I think, not impossible of course, but it is easier to target just one OS, and like 8 devices maybe.

I think it's unlikely truthfully, android limited codecs and bad camera APIs would make it meh

​@@mariotriforcelol it's way better than iPhone

Not sure. Download and see! 😊

@@team2films Can you send me some daylight untouched video file taken with your app?

You can mark clips to be uploaded to a cloud project. Or you can just transfer them manually off your phone.

15 dollars per month, and that can be shared with upto 30 editors/shooters

Thanks! @@team2films

Yes. Fully compatible. 18.6 for iPad will be released next week (I believe). Give or take, don’t hold us to that 😂

They appear automatically.

Yes… and there is not a specific sync folder. Everything syncs.

At launch there are only two cameras. The USRA Mini G2 and the Blackmagic Camera App. I've no doubt more BM cameras will be added soon. Will be interesting to see if support comes to third party cameras directly or via a device like the video assist. We shall have to wait to see! Other cameras can still be used with DaVinci Resolve Cloud Projects. You can add the media by copying it to your iPhone and then uploading via the Blackmagic Camera App. Or you can import your media into the media pool on any version of Resolve (iPad included) and it will sync to the cloud.

thanks for the response @@team2films where are you finding this? i cant seem to find any info about it on the BM website

@@BenRaddatz Good question... We've not tried to look for the info online ourselves. But we were at IBC, so got to hear about it at the stand. So a mix of that and our own speculation.

understandable, thanks @@team2films

It’s the Deity Smart Slate. Works great, love it.

@@team2films cool!

That’s a dependent on the resolution, frame rate and codec that you are shooting at. Look at the camera stats for more info on that.

Hahah! Thank-you I think :) I have been called Spock before. 🤣

I’m not sure that the bmpcc 6k pro has the necessary hardware to support remote camera workflows.

@@team2films they have cloud upload but camera says it must be connected to the internet 🤷🏿‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

Exactly!

You need a recent pro phone for ProRes to appear as an option. It requires special hardware.

@@team2films oh okay Thank you, I have 12 pro and dont have option.

@arsh0603 Ah! Sorry, I wasn't too sure but I guess that was only introduced in 13 onwards.

Sadly no, it's for the iPhone, will also work on iPad.

No. Not yet at least.

That would be a pretty awesome combo!

Buy an iPhone 📱

iPhone 15 Pro has LOG.

Yes, log is available on the iPhone 15 pro. Rec2020 is also available too on some older iPhone models.

@@team2films yeah but I am talking about a Log profile using the black magic app

@@dorythomas1816 my apologies, yes log is available on the blackmagic app on the iPhone 15 pro. It’s required hardware and api changes hence it’s only on the 15 pro.

@@team2films oh that’s awesome. Thanks for the info 🙏

Pricing is per month. But remember for that price you can share your project with unto 30 users! That's such a good price when compared to cloud services like Dropbox.

Just what I was thinking…

Perhaps. Filmic still has some unique features. Many users Will be happy with BM’s app though.

@@team2films one major advantage of BMC is it's free ! If they add LOG recording and 10 bit recording( dont know if that's already available), then it will be THE go to camera app

Yes free is a winner :) It's an amazing app. Log is available on the 15 Pro.@@muscle__rr ProRes 422 is a 10-bit codec! ProRes4444 is a 10-bit codec. But please note, Filmic Pro also has those abilities too.

No. Not on the SE. I think it’s just on recent pro phones.

Yeah! And it’s free!!!

no you need a iphone so not free for 80% of the worlds phone users :( @@team2films

Which option are you talking about, can you provide more info?

The option to copy a local project to the Blackmagic Cloud.@@team2films

@@pietervanderwalAh! My apologies. It still works for me when I copy a project and paste it into the cloud.

Check out the brand new 6K FullFrame!!!! It’s an amazing camera.

It’s really simple. Great for collaboration. Also great for solo workers who move between computers.

Ah sorry. Releases are sometimes staggered in different regions. Hopefully it will release in China soon. Thanks for watching and commenting.

Yes.

Try it and see. It’s only 15 bucks. And you’ll always have a local copy of your data. Focus I. The benefits, for the many workflows this is GOLD. From our experience it works incredibly well. Seriously impressed.

@@team2films I did try it , I also tested lucidlink which was mind blowing. But I'm not on IOS , and I want to run a flexible environment so prem and DaVinci support both. If software doesn't run cross platform then it's not included in the workflow full stop. Lets hope they get some better app developers who know how to actually code for cross platform.

Yes, wow indeed.

It’s our in the UK. Perhaps it will take longer in some regions.

I’m in the US. I had to hunt around, but I found it.

@@normanlang1 yea. I finally got it around 1am est yesterday.

Yeah. FCP still has some amazing features though. It’s great to have so much choice.

Only recent pro phones. Sorry

@@team2films 4k60fps work ProRes?

Thanks for watching. Yeah, that's true, we left out some things like showing us create our accounts. We'll try and address that with some detailed videos in the future. Regarding the available space, it's only $15 a month for 500GB, that's super cheap if you want to experiment.

@@team2films If I rented it often, then yes, this is a normal price. I'm just a video editor and a junior colorist. I would like to immerse myself in videography and hone cinematic techniques. Maybe I'll come to that.

@@movietrailer4113 That's true. In the meantime, you can just shoot with the camera app and transfer manually. That's a great way to continue honing your skills. Great to have you here.

@@team2films Thank you very much for your invaluable work. I like your presentation to provide material for digestion.

Yes, many companies will have questions about privacy compliance. Is this just a matter of certification, or are there other problems you foresee with the platform? However, we think there are lots of professionals working in smaller organisations for which this won't be an issue. Looking forward to seeing how the product continues to develop. It's pretty awesome!

@@team2films Every person working commercially in the EU is obliged to store personal data (including images and videos) securely and not against the person's will and to only pass on data within the scope of approved order processing. What is considered safe is that data only leaves the EU in justified exceptional cases. Since a majority of the servers are BM Cloud is (supposedly) located in China and Russia, current use of the cloud could potentially result in extremely high warning fees.

@@jensgeumann7564Ah, I see. There's good news for you. Blackmagic's cloud servers are regionalised. EU servers for Blackmagic Cloud are based in London. You get to choose what servers you use when you start your subscription. Using local servers helps to reduce latency too.

Thanks so much for watching. It’s helpful to remember, it’s a minor software release .5 -> .6 so these are actually major additions. There’s a huge audience that will appreciate the new 6k camera. It offers an insane amount given it’s price point. Many users will value it’s image quality over features like IBIS or internal ND. At £2500 it’s difficult to get everything. Blackmagic has a large stable of products that appeal to everyone from advanced to beginner users. Just like companies like Sony. They sell consumer and professional cameras. There’s also a broad range of professionals who shoot on phones. Loving the new 18.6 features. Truly revolutionary. Thanks for watching. Appreciate you commenting.

@@team2films ahh yes I forgot, this was only a .1 update compared to the previous .5. My mistake. Keep up the great videos and Thank you.