okay even *_i_* am surprised by the seven daily uploads in row 💀 i keep saying "i'll stop if it starts feeling like i'm pushing myself," but honestly it feels like i'm having the time of my life just talking in my room??? i'm really confident in this video style and i feel like i get to be a bit more "me" if that makes sense. so thank you for watching because it means a lot this is one of my best eras so far, and lately i've learned to treasure those no matter the duration - me, from the main channel
She gives off the "I was literally joking you're soooo sensitive" vibe that teenage girls have about pointing out your biggest insecurity in front of a group of people.
@@wowwee0 I feel like that's why colleen is taking her side. Some highschool trauma makes her feel like she doesn't care who's right she just wants to be on the side of the pretty blonde one
i read one that said something about how every man a woman has sex with, they share a connection or "a piece of your soul" and i just thought it was soooo slut shamey. like women do not share pieces of themselves with whoever they sleep with. ewwwwww.
all of her books detail women not having any personality trait or feeling like they know themselves until they meet a man. however for this book, her mother was abused by her father so she did have a first hand look at domestic abuse growing up so i feel like she deserves a little bit of leeway with this movie/book. i think she did a good job with the dialouge of how women who are abused gaslight themselves in order to make sense of it and i think at least in the book she handled the topic well. i haven’t seen the movie yet though
She likely wishes she was. I'd be shocked if she wasn't considered (or hoping to be) considered for the role of Barbie, and sees Margo as her competition (which is frankly delusional at this point, Margo's brilliant).
I was in an abusive relationship for 3 years with someone who drank from sun up until sun down. Alcohol is involved in more than half of DV cases. Blake promoting her alcohol brand whilst promoting a movie about DV is appalling.
blake lively: I wOnDeR wHy YoU dOnT aSk ThE mEn AbOuT tHeIr ClOtHeS also blake lively: *literally all she wants to do is talk about the clothes in her newest film about domestic violence*
The interviewer, Kjersti Flaa, is the co-founder and CEO of the Academy of Fashion Arts and Sciences. Of COURSE she's going to ask about the costuming in a movie set in the 1930s Hollywood scene 🙄
the interviewer saying "i would" to asking men abt their outfits IN A PERIOD MOVIE and the actresses just completely disregarding that...... frankly a nightmare scenario, i wouldve broken down sobbing fr
She's so awful in both interviews, I would die in their shoes. So far I've been lucky to only encounter kind folks in the interviewing work I do, but I pray I never end up on the receiving end of a Blake. With promo interviews like the ones we see here, all topics and questions are usually cleared beforehand with the actor's/film's PR team so this is 100% her just being rude AF to journalists/interviewers-twice-for absolutely no reason, and about shit that was already agreed upon as the topic of discussion.
Yeah, both of them had such mean girl energy there. And for what? What did they think they would gain from bullying the interviewer on camera for no reason?
I wasn’t at all surprised by Colleen Hoover not taking the themes of her story seriously because she sucks as a writer and her books are full of rampant abuse apologia, but Blake Lively was definitely a surprise. I barely knew anything about her before this, and it instantly tanked my opinion from positively neutral to ‘wow this person sucks’. And then everything else made it infinitely worse
Yeah. It's crazy how it ends with us was supposed to talk about her mother's abusive relationship with her father yet all her books are abusive. How do you make the writting so apologetic, like abuse is only a mistake? Her mother lived with it and she was 2 when she left. I don't wanna downplay the abuse and her experience but the "my father was a good man overall heehee 🥰 was just an oopsie, ik you would've loved the book pops❤️" is so insensitive for her mother and victims. And how is the bestfriend so unreadable? "As your bestfriend, don't date him he's a bad man. As his sister go date him sis! 🥰 he just has traumaaa, you can't blame him 😢 hes only abusive to you tho 😇" And the "i'll name our child rylee after my abusive brother" or "our daughter's second name will be emmerson like his dead brother he terminated by accident"
Yes, this! Like, Colleen didn't even take the themes seriously, how was anyone else supposed to!! I did go and see the movie, and the darker themes aren't introduced until wayyyy later in the movie. She lacks talent as a writer, and the movie stayed true to her book's spirit, unfortunately. I don't think the movie was absolute trash, but there was room for so much more than they covered.
@@user-sg4ov7ng4h literally, like almost every romantic lead of hers is indistinguishable from Ryle, but they’re portrayed as great guys entirely because they’re hot. Warren from Maybe Not in particular is meant to be a dickhead who’s ultimately a good guy despite the fact that he emotionally, verbally, physically, and sexually abuses his girlfriend throughout the series. And if a woman dares not to put up with abuse from men, she’s a petty evil bitch who needs to get over herself Colleen has such an awful grasp of abuse and feminism, it genuinely annoys me
Not to mention, in a recent interview on TikTok I saw, she even said, “I don’t know why people resonate with this book.” Like, you cannot tell me she is an advocate for dv when she herself doesn’t know what the book is. I have no respect for her as an author because I genuinely believe she doesn’t care as long as she makes money, it doesn’t matter to her. She never puts a lot in her books and I can understand if it’s just to get by, but at least make them decent and enjoyable. But that’s just my opinion.
I saw someone online say that it’s wild that the man who plays the abuser in the movie has been much more compassionate to victims and forthcoming about the movie’s themes than the woman playing the victim and I think that pretty much sums it up
That's why I don't buy into the whole rumor that he was the bad one on set. It's very dumb. I personally think the crisis PR thing was more because this whole Blake Lively thing has gone way out of proportion that they really needed to hire the biggest gun they could hire. I dislike Blake for how she handled everything. I could care less about who was mean to whom.
Blake chose the wrong movie to have her "Barbie" moment. I think if this movie wasn't about abuse, her egotistical obnoxiois behavior wouldn't be as big of a deal.
People who are just now getting to know her are vastly overestimating her intelligence. Her mental capacity is firmly below average. She's not intentionally doing this, she's always like this, simply has no other gear.
"Grab your friend and wear your florals" needs to be a meme. Like, "Grab your friends and were your florals, because today we're going to the morgue to identify my grandma's body!"
I read from other comments that she's a fashion journalist and a co-founder of an organization that focuses on fashion. Also, the movie they're starring in was a period drama. I imagine the interviewer was actually pretty excited to talk about the movie's costumes
Right! The interviewer gave off such kind, good vibes. She didn't deserve all of this. I hope she gets a huge, supportive following out of all of this.
Gets offended when an interviewer asks her about her clothes in the movie, acts like she's so witty and " Oh look at me women empowerment" calling out sexism- "do people ask men about their clothes? ", while acting in a movie directed by Woody Allen and outwardly supporting him. And then now constantly talks about her clothes in a movie about DV. Wow, full circle moment!!
Tbh I wish the interviewer had been able to ask this as a follow up question. Like, “since you’re such a feminist, how do you feel about working w alleged abuser and misogynist Woody Allen?” Lively is an opportunist and should be called out for it.
Right? One of the viral videos of Blake's shitty behavior was when an interviewer asked about the wardrobe in one of her movies and Blake got offended "Would you ask the guys about their clothes?" But right now she all about talking about her clothing, can't shut up about it.
Right, and the movie the interviewer asked about was a period piece, so the clothes are actually more relevant (and interesting) there, than when a character is a florist and she wears florals 🙄 Groundbreaking.
Actually her acting was good in the movie and if it wasn't for Blake Lively getting in her own way it could have been a career defining moment. Oh well you reap what you sow @joecarom391
It’s such a stupid decision to give 3000 dollar shoes to your “young woman starting her own business” character , it already proves how out of touch she is, but then to brag about it in the interviews like…oh look, those boots are actually mine like…why? Why are they there? Is that what you think middle class women wear? Shows how little thought she put into her character.
I’ve never seen two grown women acting so mean, rude, disrespectful and condescending. But the interviewer took it beautifully ! when I saw her I thought to myself “that’s dignity, that’s class!”.
I mean it doesn't shock me very much since these books are basically what people lap up in Fanfiction lol radioactive portrayals of relationships in a romanticised way while pretending it's all very deep and dramatic and serious. When it's just poorly written misogynistic drivel lol
But if we're being honest it's exactly what booktok wants. Its the ao3 kids yet infinitely more rabid and with infinitely less shame. These kids need their shame back, look at what they've done without it :(
Yeah like omg I get naming things after characters when you promo stuff, I've been to theatre shows with drinks named after the characters (If y'all see Starlight Express on the west end get the Hydrogen Fizz and thank me later) but have some tact! There's got to be more stuff in that movie you could've named a drink after than the abuser, be so fucking for real!
I will never ever get over the fact about her idolizing her father and praising their father/daughter relationship in the It Ends With Us book acknowledgements even though he apparently had to get knuckle surgery because he beat up her mom THAT bad??? I would never ever be able to have ANY relationship with a man that did those kind of things to other people. No matter how they treat me personally. That's so fucked up.
@emjemm I understand having complex feelings towards abusive family members, you love the nice and caring side of them but are terrified of the angry monster they become. I also feel that she did not convey having complex feelings in her authors note. I think she hasn't acknowledged that being exposed to her dad abusing her mum has effected her. I think maybe she hasn't gotten past the guilt you feel when you admit your family member is abusive. Like the book has many parts that tell me she hasn't ended the cycle. Because she still has a narrow view of what abuse is and the effects of it.
Yes! People smarter than me have already pointed out the irony that Ryle who is explicitly framed as an abuser in It Ends With Us is in many ways LESS abusive than some of CoHos other romantic leads who are depicted as sexy bad boys. At least Ryle only killed someone on accident and didn’t physically disfigure the protagonist 😂
- wedding on a plantation = tone deaf - allegedly rewriting a scene during a writers' strike = tone deaf - encouraging movie-goers to "wear their florals" = tone deaf - showing her edit of the movie to Coleen Hoover fans = tone deaf - wearing her high-fashion items to play a working class character = tone deaf - launching an alcoholic brand during a dv movie press tour = tone deaf
We really went from believing that she must not truly know what the book is about to being like "oh she's exactly the kind of person who would want to work with Colleen Hoover" 😭
@@Cherry_cola4 i thought it was a Samara Weaving Margot Robie kind of situation when i saw the trailer because i never thought Blake Lively would star in such a movie
Colleen Hoover is notorious for romanticizing and glorifying domestic violence and toxic abuse in her books, so I'm really not surprised that there is controversy around an adaptation of one of them. 😂
Specifically on the "the story is about domestic violence, so it's tone deaf to treat it as a girls night" these people did not read the book. This is exactly the tone the book has, it's a tone-deaf romance novel where the abusive bad boy is the sexy love interest. Shitty, abusive men controlling women framed as a romance is Colleen's entire brand.
That’s been my whole thing! Which is still crazy because they apparently toned it down for the movie too. Watching booktok glorify the wrong male characters from her books pissed me tf off.
That's what I was wondering, because literally the only thing I know about Colleen Hoover books is that they all feature the romanticization of a male lead's abuse or stalking or harassment... so I was surprised/confused to hear him describe this specific one as actually portraying it as bad. Guess it makes more sense that it's not... 😅
Maybe the point of the book was to make people angry about the complicit grey area of domestic violence, instead of giving them an easy, comfortable black or white solution?
@@52BLUE That'd be a nice thought. It's not, though. All of Colleen's work features abusive men who neg, harass, and even physically abuse the love interest, and it's only ever treated as either damage the female main character needs to fix, get over and ignore, or even admire as some show of how obsessed they are with her.
@@FlamingWalrus317 ngl i barely know who tf she was other than Ryan Reynold's wife before this, and this hasn't been a good introduction. as for Ryan, I've lost a huge amount of respect for him after his stupid wannabe barbenheimer-ing and the fact that he's chosen to spend his life with someone who clearly never grew out of her mean girl phase.
As someone who works in marketing, promoting your ALCOHOL BRAND during a movie about DV is like promoting cigarettes during a movie about cancer... Not a great look
i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again. if i was lively, i’d assume it was a translation error due to the interviewer being (audibly) foreign. i think we as humans need to give each other the benefit of the doubt more often.
To be honest...I don't blame her for that one. The interviewer commented on her body and I can't fault her for not liking that. Saying congrats on the baby might have been better than congrats on the "little bump." I'm only excusing THAT to be clear, nothing else.
I noticed the relationship she shares with Ryan is like they are teamed up husband and wife bullies. They think they have some superior “unique” connection and post about it and seem to both have inflated egos from it belittling others.
It goes deeper than just Blake. Coho is a horrible person. She defended her rapist son and silenced his (UNDERAGE) victim! Then talked about a newborn baby’s “big balls” in her book. She is disgusting.
It's so crazy that at the start of the book she said "i didn't understand dv till my mother talked about it, so it's to show how dv victims feel" YET she goes to write like she's only ever been apologetic to it! Brooo chose a sideeee
The scene in her book with the baby having big balls went viral on Tumblr since, in a scene right after they laugh about their son's balls, he drowns to death. And the parents were step siblings so it just keeps piling on
The interviewer is the CEO of The Academy Of Fashion Arts and Sciences. The movie is also a period drama (set in the 1930s), and Blake obviously loves fashion. So, of course, the interviewer would ask about the clothes! Clearly, she wasn't being sexist. Blake was just being horrible.
Tbh Blake didn’t mismatch the tone Hoover literally romanticises and glorifies sa and da and just in general being awful to women bc she’s a horrible person
Wait, so Blake simultaneously loves to talk about how she wore a bunch of her own clothes in the movie but also gets upset when a different interviewer tries to talk about it? Seems like the “I wonder if they’d ask men about their clothes” comment is more of her retaliating being congratulated on her bump than actually making a statement on sexism.
The movie they were talking about in the interview was a period piece too, one of the instances where asking about the wardrobe is actually relevant to the film!
Folks have speculated that it was her trying emulate Scarlett Johanssen (her husband's ex-wife) when she was asked if her "character" was wearing underwear for a scene.
Blake just never stopped being Serena van der Woodsen, she is vain and self-centered, and on top of that, absolutely oblivious to the huge privilege she has in basically every avenue of life.
@@lulubananas-xx5zmBlair was an infinitely better person. She used her powers for more good than evil and usually on behalf of someone else too. Also Nate was generally good too, just couldn’t catch a break.
@@ayannacodedWhen I watched GG with my mom and my sister, we HATED Serena. I was very infested in s1 and s2 Serena, but after that, she was just so annoying. When she was trying to sabotage Lola, she was SO annoying. Most of the GG character are, but Serena is one of the only ones with a regressive character
Ironically, Scarlett Johansson also called out an interviewer who asked her about clothing while asking the male Marvel actors thoughtful questions. The difference is she nailed it, it was humorous and got her point across without giving off mean girl vibes.
Also, the question posed to Scarlett was more based in her sexuality than in the clothing itself. If I remember correctly, it was about how tight her black widow costume is and what she wore underneath it. Implying that she didn’t wear anything underneath the costume and trying to get her to talk about an intimate subject in a public interview. The interviewer with Blake was just asking about the clothing in general and basically how exciting it was to get to run around in the cool period costuming.
@@SunnyGoesIn1Dthat wasn’t apologia. People who have been involved in/done harmful things can also do things that people like. Both things can be true at the same time. It’s totally fine and even helpful to draw a comparison between two similarly situated women’s responses to similar scenarios.
i keep thinking the worst part was not the promotion tactics, since they are very in line with the author's. the hostile takeover of the creative and productive side of the movie is alarming: rewriting part of the script during a strike and not even bothering telling the screenwriters, recutting the movie with the editor of deadpool and testing it independently a month before release, deciding that she was her own intimacy coordinator for some of her more uncomfortable scenes, deciding that the best way to deal with an (allegedly) abusive director was to unfollow him on instagram... this is what i see: a couple of people that failed upwards to the point that they have no sense of professional integrity anymore
also Justin baldoni made his bio about DV awareness on Instagram and shared an alternate movie cover that is so much more grounded in what the movie should be about instead of Blake lively’s face with a ton of cute florals. Regardless of what people think about him based on what her defenders are alleging about being toxic on set (which sounded like him clashing with Blake wanting to take too much control and might just be a cope/PR spin to protect her and make her seem like a victim, who knows), he is the director and I can't imagine choosing an actress for your star role only to have her completely hijack the whole thing and make it about her and her husband and their companies but under a veil of “empowering” toxic positivity girlboss feminism.
@@elliewellie_RU-vidtrisha is an abuser. she’s physically abused moses to the point of bruises. even if she has also been a victim of abuse shouldn’t excuse the fact that she has a history of being abusive/is abusive. edit: i didn’t know ab trisha’s past history of being abused so i apologize if my comment came off as dismissive. but again, even if she is a victim of abuse, still shouldn’t excuse her current abusive behavior.
@@zerovstheworrldI don’t know if you know this (unironically I’m not trying to be mean) but people are usually abusers because they were victims. Trisha is very much both she is an abuser and a victim of abuse
@@austinbrooks2982yes, i do know that, but her being a victim of abuse should not excuse the abuse she perpetrates. just because someone has been abused doesn’t immediately mean they’ll be abusive ofc, but ppl constantly dismiss her current and constant abusive behaviors. being a victim shouldn’t excuse her behavior as a abuser.
The reason they couldn't run the scene change by the screenwriter is because they literally were on strike. This ends with us had permission to shoot during the strike due to the script being LOCKED to changes. So she just basically confessed to them breaking the strike and it makes my blood boil
from what I heard, the Ryan screenwriting fiasco is even worse: supposedly, he rewrote the scene during the writer's strike when all scripts were supposed to be under lock and unchanged
That’s absolute conjecture. If what they’re saying is true, it’s more likely that he wrote it after the strike technically as it was an adlibbed line and the actors strike ended later
First, it's unproven. Second, who gives a fuck. The writer's strike was the work of entitled, talentless Hollywood nepo brats who can't make it on their own, so they rely on their union's influence to strongarm studios into compliance.
@@shellybean225 He's in a union too, & this is a serious breach of the writers strike + ethics. I don't appreciate you minimizing it. I hope both unions investigate his actions & appropriate action is taken if it is found he was scabbing.
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 I also hope they investigate him! But I think minimizing it would be to take all accusations of scabbing as %100 true until proven otherwise
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 I just hope that when I get writing jobs, if god forged there’s a strike, that I don’t write something the day after it ends and people just call me a scanner because of that. Because I’m sure there’s plenty of actual scanners that won’t get caught anywahs
Wait, did you watch the video? He just said Ryan didn’t actually write it- that if anything the actual writer thought that improvisations done might’ve been attributed to Ryan Reynolds. If anything he was prob like, “beb, zu this”
booktok should cease to exist for making Colleen Hoover, Sarah J. Maas, and a lot of these other authors/books popular when they're awful, have terrible writing, lack of care for sensitive themes and subjects etc.
I've been an avid reader my whole life, and I'll never in my life take a recommendation from booktok lol. I don't mind people liking trash writing - it's no different than people liking Twilight - as long as there's awareness that it is trash haha. What gets me is the booktok girls who unironically think that Hoover and Maas are genuinely the best writers. Like it hurts my soul that people genuinely think they are the peak of talented authors, because they're more like scraping the bottom of the barrel lol.
I agree, the "quality" of writing in those books decreases our collective intelligence. I read Sarah J Maas and had to force myself to finish the book (the first of the fae prince series), because f it I spent money on it. Never again. I've read fanfiction a hundred times better than that for entirely free.
I don't think most people appreciate hoover and Maas for their literary genius, the appeal is that they are easy to read romance or fantasy stories that can let you escape your own dull life. Nobody is saying they should get the nobel prize.
The mistake she’s making is not apologizing. Her husband knows better. He’s the one that released the apology about the plantation wedding not her. You could tell from pictures of the premier that Ryan Reynolds was very unhappy with the way his wife was handling this you could tell he knew she was making a massive mistake. She has other movies coming out and they’re going to bomb because of what she’s been doing. She’s not going to be getting anywhere near the press that she’s used to because frankly a lot of media companies are not gonna send their people out if they’re going to be abused. Now I’m hearing that she’s reconsidering her career altogether because of how badly this is all going. She’s hoping that her best buddy Taylor Swift fans a.k.a. the Swifty’s keep defending her because they’re the ones that are standing up for her. Normal people realize that abusive behavior doesn’t have to take the form of a fist, emotional and verbal abuse are very much part of it as well and she is an emotional verbal abuser. That is very clear.
I was gonna say she hopes taytay and whatever following she has comes to her rescue. I feel like she has gotten too big and fame went to her head and acts likes a spoiled bish now
Blake being a mean girl to the sweet interviewer and trying to have a point about only women being asked about their clothes, to then promoting a film about DV using a hair care line, her designer clothes and wearing florals is crazy.
this! and especially when moments before she also "congratulated" her on her bump and lowkey bodyshamed her, while sexist comments about women are often related to their bodies. (somehow i wonder if she would have responded the same way to a male interviewer congratulating her for her pregnancy and if she would have made a snarky comment about his body too, but that's just a thought i had, of course i don't know if she would have reacted differently.)
The way they were passive aggressively ignoring the interviewer gave me so much anxiety for the poor interviewer just DOING HER JOB. So disrespectful and demeaning, my god.
It gave me memories of being 11 and being excluded by a girl at school. Such mean immature behaviour. Sure, the little bump comment wasn’t ideal but English probably isn’t the journalist’s first language and Blake was disgustingly rude and body shaming in return. She could have smiled politely and said thank you because it’s obvious all the journalist meant to do was congratulate her even if it was in an imperfect way. Plus little bump sounds adorable to me, it’s not like she’s asking if she’s having multiples or asking if she’s eating for two or something. You could see the flash of hurt on the journalist’s face after that comment. Blake seems mean and shallow.
@@asmileisspecial It's EXCEEDINGLY COMMON to have your pregnancy referred to as "a bump" in the UK/Europe when speaking English. It's called a bump as a holdover etiquette thing bc it's considered more discrete + polite to refer to it as "a bump" bc it's less physically about the acts around creating new life. It's so odd that was offensive to her. I'd get it if she hadn't announced a pregnancy, but she had. LOUDLY. Anyways, the bump thing is so common in Euro-English that Jim Henson's Storyteller live action series with Anthony Minghella directing has an episode with Julia Stevenson, where her character is a pregnant doctor, & her 10 year old son is coping with the coming changes with the arrival of their sibling by talking to his toy dragon, who comes alive. The episode is called "The Bump". That's how common it is.
Yeah, and she was stupid enough to try this stunt when the movie they are talking about in the interview is a period piece, playing in Hollywood in the 30ies IIRC, so the costumes are an important part of the movie's look, and therefore a totally legitimate topic for an interview. Edit: typos; the movie is called 'Café Society'
I just realized that Blake most likely was lying when she said that she didn't know about the plantation because she had a whole lifestyle brand romanticizing the antebellum south in the early 2010s that obviously got backlash and she had to end the brand. So you're telling me you were obsessed with the antebellum South but didn't realize that your wedding venue was a plantation 🤔.....as the brilliant Kendrick Lamar said I smell somebody lying
Also there is no way you don't know you're on a fucking plantation lmfao. They are historical sites, the information will be IN YOUR FACE, especially if you're going to plan a whole ass wedding at one.
The thing to me is.... I remember watching Blake Lively give a speech about human trafficking and p3doph1lia raising some very important concerns about the safety of children and with tears in her eyes. And you know, I do think that she and Ryan Reynolds like ADORE each other (perhaps a little too much) so to see her turn a blind eye to this particular topic and film is weird. Like why does she care about one thing and not the other when they are often so intricately correlated? Or you know, when she has a vast platform she can use to spread awareness, care, encouragement.... It's just odd to me
I bet she didn’t even write that. I feel like she was acting there. And after she had that speech, her 1 year old son had his birthday and she made his cake her boobs bc “he can’t voice what he wants” and she assumed her son likes her tits because that’s how he gets fed. How can you go from speaking out against pedophelia and CP and then turn around and introduce sexual themes like incest to your own children? I cant take her seriously and her behaviors have been disgusting
I think where the marketing for this movie all went wrong is Lively wanted this to be another Barbenheimer moment, except she wanted her movie to be Barbie, because it was the bigger movie. She wanted a Barbenheimer moment with her husband's movie, but his movie is the Barbie of it. It's the funny, campy, lighthearted one with the simplest message to get across. Hers was Oppenheimer, but she didn't want that. (I know this is an incredibly oversimplified way of viewing.) What struck me the most with this is her promoting it like Margot Robbie promoted Barbie. Where Margo wore pink, Blake wore florals. Where Margo said it was a girl power movie, Blake said it was a girl power movie. Where Margot said to grab your girls for the showing, Blake did the exact same thing. The constant promotion of her movie with her husbands, constantly bringing it up, it all was so familiar. But it didn't land because it ends with us isn't Barbie. That isn't me saying it's not on the same level or something (I actually don't like Barbie), but it is to say that it isn't the same tone, and it shouldn't be marketed as such.
I loved Barbie and I genuinely think you're RIGHT! Except - I think it's far more simple, than Blake's movie being the Oppenheimer and Ryan Reynolds actually having the Barbie equivalent and something getting lost in translation - I think It Ends With Us just really was supposed to be... Barbie, and Ryan's movie Oppenheimer, in the minds of whichever bright executives who were put in charge of promotions. It makes a cold kind of sense from a marketing standpoint to try to do a straight out BarbenHeimer. It Ends With Us... sort of looks like Barbie when you squint, and if you're only really identifying that it's about "women's issues, or whatever", because it's not like Barbie wasn't also about some very serious themes at the end of the day, anyway. It would be fantastic if they could pull off a Barbenheimer part 2 in the eyes of a marketing exec, because it wouldn't just promote both movies, it would also promote Blake and Ryan, and having a 'powercouple' at the helm of this thing would make all the casting agents attached to these two giddy for all the future prospects that would now come their way. It really does feel like a very disjointed marketing decision, something that was decided on probably initially for Blake Lively without her input by a bunch of men comparing graphs in a board room somewhere. My question is just, when she was presented this idea, why on earth didn't alarm bells go off? She was IN THE DAMN MOVIE! She knows what it's about. I'm a Hoover Hater personally, and even I know what it's about. Why didn't she go "Oh no, we can't do that." It's bound to not have been the first time a promotion team pitched a totally tone deaf idea and then got shot down, I'm sure that happens regularly because they work with numbers and graphs and probably don't all watch the movies they're tasked to promote. But i really do think that's what happened, and then Blake Lively was either too excited to be the next Margot Robbie or she was too much of a doormat to say they needed to rethink it. Clearly much of the external cast got the memo, but it seems evident that Blake and Ryan had a meeting together at some stage and was pitched that they'd be the next Barbenheimer, and everyone else in their peripheral got awkward about it.
as someone who grew up going on field trips to the plantation they got married at, saying you “didn’t know” is INSANE work, even on the website it has multiple sections about black and specifically gullah history
Right but to say people can’t get married at sites that were previously plantations is absurd, esp if you’re from the south. They’re some of the largest venues available, & it’s not like having a wedding is some sort of historical reenactment. This couple did the right thing, donated money to NAACP
@@erinnadia0409 I also enjoy how Ryle is the character who gets riled up easily...because CoHo is incapable of presenting abusive male leads as anything other than a sexy misunderstood guy
i mean the book itself completely romanticises and justifies abuse (and it's a pattern with hoover, her son committed SA and she defends him) so i'd stay as far as possible from anyone who had anything to do with promoting it or the movie (and even people who loved the book. those are not people i'd like having on my side if i was a victim)
when is everyone gonna realize that extremely rich and famous people are basically always gonna be weird and disconnected 😭 if they don’t come off like that then they’re just better managed by their PR directors
Exactly! Especially the privileged yts, like Blake who has very little adverse life experience to draw from and therefore cannot genuinely relate. A good actor can pretend, but I believe a performance really resonates when the actor has tapped into something real and the audience subconsciously connects to and appreciates that. Not to say the film isn’t an ok representation, but it could have been really powerful with the right casting. I think the directing and editing did a lot of the heavy lifting here. Blake just isn’t THAT good of an actor. But the studio would have played a big role in the tone deaf marketing of this film too so I don’t think we can blame her completely for that. I honestly believe she just truly doesn’t grasp the gravity of the impact of the film and the discord surrounding it, and she might not even care. It still doesn’t make her evil and deserving of this level of scrutiny or backlash. She’s just a flawed human. A bit of a self absorbed mean girl but not a villain.
I mean, there's a pretty big range of behaviors within that, though. This kind of quick-draw mean girl instinct seems so egregious because other celebs aren't that bad
i think the absolute best coverage for dv was the show Maid. it did not whatsoever glorify it, and covered all the things dc victims actually go through like being broke, no where to stay, shelters, food stamps, trauma, etc. imo nothing will ever top how well they did it.
I am very uncomfortable with the wording here. I’m sure it’s a great series, but it’s not a competition. It can’t represent everyone, and we shouldn’t hold it to that standard. This does need to be pointed out because ALL survivors have to experience different intersections of race, class, gender identity, sexuality, ableism and more that can cause completely different hurdles. Placing one work as the be-all and end-all is counter to solidarity.
Goes from condemning being asked about their clothes to doing a whole press tour about a movie involving domestic violence while she basically only talks about her clothes. The evolution. 😬
& also for Blake to be offended when Justin Baldoni asked how much she weighed to his personal trainer FOR A SCENE, when she literally fat shamed the interviewer here??
Also Blake lively is always a guest at the met gala and ends up on the best dressed lists every year. She clearly loves fashion and her acting career has been kind of dead for the last decade so it makes sense that she’d be more known for her involvement in fashion rn and get asked about it
The way Blake and her collegue treated the interviewer is absolutely DISGUSTING. I don't care how hormonal you're feeling/ how self conscious you are about your baby bump there is no excuse to be so unprofessional and cruel. She needs to apologize to that interviewer, no question. (if I were her i'd be so mortified and ashamed of myself)
Right and not only from a normal person pov but also pr as a celebrity, saying something back in a dejected way like it upset you typically would make someone feel genuinely guilty and as a celebrity you look better or 'be more supported' whatever
Because CoHo thinks abuse and abusive men are sexy. In this book, she actually calls her male lead abusive, but in her other books she has male leads do truly atrocious things and it's all clearly framed as misguided and romantic. In one of her books, the male lead sets the female lead's house on fire because he believes her dad was involved in the death of his mom, causing the female lead to experience "4th degree burns" over like 30% of her body (which in the real world would almost certainly be fatal, 4th degree burns are literally charred down to the bone, and if the female lead survived she would have had limbs amputated instead of the relatively mild scars she has in the book, but I digress), which destroys her career because she was an actress. He then tracks her down on the anniversary of the fire, stages a meet-cute, sets up this convoluted thing where they meet up every year on the same day without speaking in-between because he's a writer and he's going to use it to write a book, has sex with his sister-in-law after his brother dies tragically, strings the female lead along for 5 years, then "confesses" the truth about the fire in an effort to win her back, which *ACTUALLY WORKS* and they end up together in the end. There's also the one where two of her characters comment and laugh hysterically about the size of their newborn son's testicles. That's the one where the lead guy is super nasty to the lead girl and strings her along and manipulates her, but it's totally ok because it turns out that he has a tragic backstory where he fell in love with his step-sister and gets her knocked up when they are teenagers and then they get into a car accident and his step-sister/baby mama and son are killed, so his horrible behavior in the present is actually totally justified and kinda hot!!
@@52BLUE DV relationships usually start with the naive girl chasing after the bad boy for validation. Compassionate guys are usually sidelined when it comes to dating, for some messed up reason young women think that toxic men are sexy while kind men are considered unattractive and boring.
I heard a comment once that Blake was so good as Serena van der Woodsen in Gossip Girl because she didn't really have to act, she just was that character. That's starting to check out
Meanwhile, Leighton has the opposite reputation in real life. She's down-to-earth, caring, and generally stays out of the public eye with her kids and husband!
as someone who read colleen hoover as a twelve year old, i think people involved in this drama completely overlook the fact that the book itself is extremely tone deaf and the author's approach to domestic violence is NOT it. it's not the movie adaptations fault, although i don't think the book should have been adapted in the first place.
Actually the director had a dv org consult on the movie and made some tweaks in accordance with their advice. He deeply cared about the message this movie sends. But Blake said he fat shamed her for not wanting to exacerbate his back injury so he’s getting completely ignored at best. Vilified at worst
Please, Colleen Hoover was never about women's empowerment. That coworker trying to use feminist language to defend some ignorant woman is just tasteless. Also, the It Ends With Us book is not better than the movie
I dont mind movies with bad endings or a bad message. I think they need to exist to be analyzed and talked about (kinda like Cuties which was badly marketed but apparently a good movie and irl common experience for the director when she was a kid). But is the movie any good tho, storywise?
@@seraby7151I watched the movie then read the book right after. Movie is OK, dialogue was the worst part. Plot was medium interesting, and the visual storytelling was good. I thought the movie handled the actual abuse very carefully and seriously. The book’s dialogue was much better, and you can empathize more with the characters since you spend more time with them & know exactly what the main character is thinking. I’d give movie: 4.5/10. Enjoyed it somewhat, would not rewatch. I’d give book: 5.5/10. The beginning was very cringe, not good development, but the middle and end I thought were fairly good. The relationship between main character and the non-abusive love interest was very sweet. I think that’s why it’s classified as a romance.
I used to work for a small Canadian clothing company and Blake Lively's team would reach out for free clothes. Her husband prances around like the king of Canada/Vancouver but they can't even support our small businesses. She never posted about our clothes either. These people are truly fake to the bone.
@@ballerman22345I’m glad that when it comes to celebrities or actors and people of in the industry that I jist keep them there. No worship or Stan these people because at the end of the day they don’t give a damn about us common folk and they most likely are just nasty people.
My therapist works with DV survivors and she says they are very upset about all of this. They were very surprised to be watching a movie about the most traumatic moments of their lives, while thinking they were going to see a fun chick flick. 😢this is why trigger warnings exist
Didn't even realize that there would be survivors who would see it without any context of it being about DV but of course there would be. Which makes the way Blake is promoting it even more harmful. It's so unfair to them.
This was one of my fears about the way they’re marketing the movie. If you only speak about it as an empowering romcom, some people are going to be triggered, possibly heavily, by walking into this movie unprepared for what it’s truly about. It’s so misleading, which makes any claim by them allegedly wanting to use this to make a difference feel disingenuous because of how they seem to be avoiding talking about it during any promo in any serious form. At least pre backlash, and kinda still after since it just feels like a fake move to save and publicity.
What a disservice this film does to anyone who is or has suffered the same trauma! It makes me wonder about the cast member (Brandon Sklenar) who claimed Colleen’s book & film somehow saved his friend’s life and how this tone deaf story could ever impact someone in a positive way.
As someone who grew up near the plantation they got married at and has been there many times. It is a beautiful place but there's no way you wouldn't know the history of it if you go there or look at any information about the plantation. There's history tours, historical slave cabins with plaques and stuff to show the terrible conditions they lived in, ect. "What if they didn't see the slave cabins?" There's plaques all over the property talking about it's history, not to mention that if you grew up in the US I'm pretty sure you know anything in the south that has "plantation" in it is somehow connected to slavery
@@sunfI0wer It’s so disrespectful to the descendants of the people who lived in those cabins. I just can’t imagine what it would be like to have people celebrating their relationship and love and taking smiling selfies at the spot where my ancestors were brutalised.
I totally agree that since it is very clearly shown and you have to put in effort to miss all the implications and just direct proof. But it's not weird for a spot to mean near opposite things to different people. I was born in a hospital many people have died in. I see the place my life started, someone else sees the place they said goodbye to grandpa. Honeymoons in rooms where someone was stabbed and holiday pictures on a bridge that multiple people have swandived off. The world is weird and there's a duality to much of it. Tonedeaf location for a wedding absolutely, presuming you aren't actually in favor of what happened there. But it being bad for some doesn't have to impact others.
@@bararobberbaron859Oh, so black death that has seeped into that land is okay to get married at because it has a nice facade? Weird. I guess no one is getting married on other death grounds because the surroundings aren't as nice. Sure, you can mention duality but if I'm only seeing plantation weddings it seems like horrific black deaths on the grounds doesn't matter because it's black people. Not a good look. There are a million other places to get married. It says something about those people that choose that setting. And they definitely give zero cares about it.
I mean, I’ve never been to a plantation, but I would need to have lived literally under a rock to not know or at least have an idea of how things were at plantations.
@bararobberbaron859 comparing a hospital to a plantation is not a good parallel to draw, there is no good aspects that came from slavery and you'd be hard pressed to find many people who have positive opinions and memories on plantations
In the baby bump interview she’s mad that the interviewer asked about her clothes. Flash forward to her never shutting up about her clothes on this recent press tour
Honestly, all this drama with Blake has drawn my attention to Justin Baldoni, and I now have a newfound HUGE respect for the guy. He constantly promotes positive and healthy masculinity (has a podcast and book about it) he understands and fights to market the DV themes in the movie, he went out of his way to make sure it was portrayed correctly. And once he started realizing Blake was taking over, and the movie was being marketed dishonestly and very wrongly, he stepped back quietly and continued to promote the themes on his own without drama. This guy is awesome
The story about fat shaming really open my eyes to the manipulation going on. Justin apparently has back problems and asked an on-site trainer how he should lift her to not aggravate his back problems. Yes he did inquire about her weight, but not maliciously and probably assuming he was in a professional environment that it was only going between him and the trainer. Apparently someone brought it up to Blake and that’s what made her uncomfortable.
@@firstbradley3281 she is obviously a deeply insecure person, to always overreact whenever anything minimally related to her weight is brought up (like with the baby bump).
So many people would have excused her if she’d come out immediately and said, “I’m so sorry. I was pregnant and hormonal.” She’s had four kids, so she could probably stretch that excuse for most of the last decade if she includes newborns and breastfeeding. 😂
Yeah but im so sick of actors getting away with murder by simply apologizing. And not even sincerely and they dont even write it themselves. Their pr writes it. And what then? Are we supposed to forgive thek after that?
Lily Blossom Bloom. The wife beater is named Ryle... like, y'know, someone who gets riled up. And the steadfast supportive friend who acts like he needs to hold up the world is named Atlas. It is... some real dumb stuff.
@@laurab7049is this the one where the Good Man was homeless and they slept together as teens but then lost touch and she wrote letters to Ellen DeGeneres instead of journaling
This is NOT in Blake Lively's defense but quite frankly it's a miracle the conversation is not on how weird of an author Colleen Hoover is. She uhhh... idk man if you've read the book and followed her career ... she has done PLENTY on her own to make light of the very abuse she wrote in the book and others. The book is smut. It was not written to shine a light on toxic relationships. It is supposed to be s exy. Blake is bizarrely capturing the essence of the way Hoover seems (or seemed? idk if she's changed her stance) to feel about the romanticization of toxic relationships in fiction works. She wanted to make an It Ends with Us COLORING BOOK. I'm just saying this because I find it interesting how folks think Blake Lively isn't taking the source material seriously when... the source material did not take itself seriously. I fully understand if the intention of the movie was to be a serious one, but Hoover's book is literally a romance novel and has been described as erotica. I would hardly suggest it is for survivors and would be understandably triggering for them.
I agree 100%. I haven’t read It Ends With Us, but I have unfortunately read part of one of her other books. (I think it was Verity? Idk, it was so bad I couldn’t finish it 😭) It seems to be a recurring theme based on what I’ve seen that she romanticizes a lot of awful things. She very clearly does not care enough about sensitive subject matters and victims affected by them to put proper time/effort into careful portrayals and it’s absolutely disgusting.
That's exactly what I was thinking about. I was wondering if CH actually managed to write a real story for once because that would be so out of character for her. It makes sense that BL would go based on what she was told the story was meant for (romance) instead of really looking at reality when she's already so far removed from reality. They both are. They're both awful. Blake just happens to be the one on the screen.
went on the boone hall plantation website cause I wanted to see pictures, and it is so crazy to see their tabs, because one of their tabs says slave cabins, and another tab says weddings. there is no possible way you could book and plan a wedding at a plantation with standing slave cabins and be like "yooooo im sorry, i didnt know about racism, thats crazzzyyy, cant relate tho."
Slavery and war and such happened everywhere. There is barely a place on earth not touched by disaster. If its a beautiful location, whats the issue? Can no one get married anywhere in the south because all buildings have some history of that sort? Lets be happy a place of horror could reclaim its beauty and be used for positive celebrations
I have heard *some* plantations that still look like pretty venues sans context will try to subtley obscure the tiny little detail that the land is one of *those* plantations, but fr if they've got slave cabins up on a place they call slave street there's no excuse to say you were tricked or were unaware.
I think unfortunately Blake Lively thinks she is funny just because she is married to Ryan Reynolds, but her humor never lands and is just uncomfortable. I also don’t find Ryan Reynolds funny at all.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: the Reynolds family are venture capitalists first and foremost and any film Blake or Ryan star in is seen as an opportunity to further promote their larger brand- this is simply Blake learning that there are times where this strategy can seriously backfire when it comes to public perception. Don't do movies about DV if you want to use them as a marketing tour for all your quirky little businesses. I do think Parker Posey is getting second hand flack over the Blake outrage, especially since Parker started to answer the question before Blake derailed- but my sympathy ends at the fact that they were being interviewed about starring in a Woody Allen film.
Framing the movie as "about DV" is...generous. I haven't seen it but I know enough about the book to know that "girls night romance" is way more accurate to the tone of the book then serious examination of DV. Colleen Hoover's whole thing is romantizing abusive men.
I got weird vibes any time a celebrity buys up a brand the way Ryan Reynolds did with Mint or when he bought that soccer team and made a feelgood show about it, like what you're so rich and bored that you had to go out and buy yourself a hobby? Couldn't be bothered to grow a skill but still wanted all the credit for it?
Parker Posey was a hero of mine in the 90s + 2000s & this was how I found out she'd even been in a Woody Allen film bc I wilfully ignored him forever, bc I believe his daughter. I was already canceling Parker when I saw that clip, finding out it's from a Woody Allen movie is so gross. She's dead to me now.
The interview part with the woman who can't have children is absolutely appalling behavior, ignoring her, the remarks, the trying to make her feel bad because she asked about their wardrobe, she's a mean girl through and through
I’m surprised no one understands why Blake responded like that. A woman being pregnant doesn’t give you permission to talk about her body or congratulate her on her “little bump”. I’m sure Blake didn’t appreciate the comment about her changing body, she was probably getting a lot of attention on her body at the time, and that’s why she responded like that. The interviewer was rude, and Blake was rude back.
There's no way Blake could've known that interviewer couldn't have children, though. Was she being rude regardless? Yes, but that personal fact really isn't a factor in this situation. Also, not justifying her behavior because it was undoubtedly unprofessional and mean, but I'm assuming she just got fed up with people bringing up her pregnancy all the time. The interviewer might have been unfortunate enough to be the one she finally snapped with.
@@Bunny-eg8vp Thank you!!! People constantly complimented me on my size/shape and weight while pregnant and it always made me so uncomfortable. Pregnancy makes people feel like they have a pass to comment on your body when it would otherwise not be acceptable to do so. I either felt like I wasn’t pregnant enough or was too pregnant near the end and didn’t have any control over either.
@@alexandrite61this. Those things are press junket where they are stuck in a room all day having 40to 50 interviews, for 5 minutes a pop, and at that point, the questions are boring. And I agree, how could you guess someone has fertility issues? At that point, why did the interviewer go in with Blake pregnancy if she was so triggered? Seems to me the interviewer is making out like she was traumatised by the interview to encourage dog piling.
@@Bunny-eg8vp honestly though, if you can’t keep it together for an official interview with Elle, maybe you are too childish for your Job. It’s crazy unprofessional and I am so annoyed with people using their pregnancy as a get-out-of-jail free card. It’s pathetic, powerplaying a journalist like that.
Bro watching them turn away from the interviewer to talk about the mens' costumes after they got asked about their wardrobe absolutely REEKS of high school mean girl nonsense
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@@bararobberbaron859 You do not cross picket lines, full stop. That can get you blacklisted within any unionized industry. You are deliberately taking work and bargaining power away from the very people you're tip-toeing around to make your wife happy.
@@TheoRae8289Ryan Reynolds rewriting a few scenes is not talking away any bargaining power from the Guild. I can see what you mean morally but That’s a lot of hyperbole. People are obviously blowing it out of the water due to the issues with Blake. Let’s be real, no one cared about it before this Blake Lively hate train started. But since now we are nitpicking every single thing, Ryan Reynolds rewriting a few scenes could have been the end of the writers guild? 😭
I think she REALLY wants a cool strong female empowerment moment she seems to jump at the chance to cause a problem. like when an interviewer asks about her outfit her immediate response is 'why don't you ask the men' like scarlett johanson did in a black widow interview, the only difference is one was very clearly targeted. the weirdest part is 5:32 shows she clearly WANTS to talk about the fashion so why was she so rude when asked about it 😭
Basically all of Colleen's books are about toxic relationships played as "the most real love ever". I am pretty sure she is not trying to empower women.
I’m not saying that Hoover’s books in general aren’t problematic or that that the marketing around it isn’t problematic, but It Ends with Us was not portraying “real love” between the DV survivor and perpetrator. At the core, it showed that abusers (like Ryle & Lily’s dad) can appear charismatic and successful to the public, but people who love you will still support you when you come forward and make the decision to leave the abusive relationship. This is what Baldoni is emphasizing during his press tour. I don’t think it’s fair to say there isn’t a worthwhile message here just because Blake Lively is tone deaf.
@@Mo-lf1qvthat is true but the fact that all of her love interest have the same habits and treat women similarly to ryle, and are not being portrayed as abusive for it kind of undermines that point
@@Mo-lf1qv That is why I put the word "Basically" at the beginning of the sentence. It is a qualifier to indicate that not all of her books are that way. My comment was a reaction to the actor who said that Colleen is all about woman's empowerment.
Honestly to spoil the book ending, she gets pregnant has the baby and still decides to let her abuser (and father of the child) coparent and not press charges so tbh fuck the book movie and author! Like it's not a horrible book by any means, but that ending is so rage inducing that I wouldn't recommend it to dv victims at all. This movie should have never happened to begin with. And PERSONALLY to me Blake lacks professionalism, it's all about her and her husband. Ignorant and dumb!
the ending is infuriating because there are two ways of looking at the abuser: either hes abusive and in control of his rage and takes it out on bloom, or you believe his excuse that he blacks out during his rage fits and isnt in control of himself. either way, you DO NOT want that kind of person having unsupervised custody of a child!!
Thank you for the spoilers! Definitely will be avoiding this. Also Blake seems like a mean girl that's pouting cuz her husband is overshadowing her in the media and popular opinions so she puts on all her most colorful clown.. I mean peacock dresses to say "HEY LOOK EVERYONE! I'm fun and sexy and relevant too!"
@@everfluctuating chruly! It's also extra infuriating that these concerns are voiced by lily herself yet she still went, yeah he can still be a parent like? 😵💫🥴
It’s disheartening that powerful celebrities defend one another and say as an audience we’re “projecting negativity” or being “toxic” while we can clearly see famous people being mean, tone deaf, and out of touch. It’s got a very know-your-place vibe to it
Yes, but can we address the source of all problems: Colleen Hoover? I feel like people brush over the fact that all of her books are kind of problematic and I really don’t get how they became such a hype on Social Media. As someone who read a few of her books when I was FOURTEEN, I think I couldn’t even make it through one right now because of how absurd they are. Especially since she romanticises this kind of domestic violence. I think there was even something like her mum has experienced DV, so she decided to write a romance about it? So I don’t entirely blame the cast for making it seem like it is a fun, cutesy romantic movie with flowers✨and fashion✨perfect for girls night instead of a dark, heavy and meaningful movie on DV it could’ve potentially been.
as a therapist who works with both DV victims and offenders, it is disheartening to know how callously the lead of this movie (and its author too) and the cast as well are treating the main theme of this story. it could’ve been a great moment to bring awareness to the realities of DV (especially with Justin Baldoni stating “instead of asking why women stay, we need to ask why men harm”). DV becomes a real life or death escalation/situation. what a shame for everyone involved in this (except Justin Baldoni, respect for him, especially with all the self reflection he’s done as a man).
there are a lot of people that love this type of entertainment. it's very popular. that's how the book got massive in the first place. i believe any writer should have the right to write whatever they want and people have the right to read and watch whatever they want. i just think Justin had no business getting involved with ridiculous story. i think that's the actual issue. poor man was trying to turn poop into gold
@@elyeliza8287 so you're basically villainizing the only person that has taken this movie seriously and is the male lead that was somehow so moved by the book he wrote the author saying he was so moved by the story that he wanted to turn it into a movie and keep it based on domestic violence and not on a female character that has hideous fashion sense and an annoying personality? I don't care for the movie and haven't read the book and definitely don't plan to but I applaud Justin for taking the whole thing seriously and not behaving like a teenager while promoting the movie and not folding into the fray like that Brandon whatever 100% has a long with literally every other person involved with it unfortunately has. Hopefully Justin can come back after the bs subsides and do whatever his gorgeous heart desires because he does seem like a kind and caring man and not one to again, fold just because he wants to truly become famous.
I’m honestly curious about the extensive out rage toward Hoover and this book in particular. I’m by no means a fan of hers or even this book. I think the issue is that this book is marketed as a romance, when it’s not. It’s about a woman getting out of an abusive relationship. Her name is literally Lily Bloom and we as readers are watching her blossom into her true self by leaving a man who abusive. I’ve read the book and it’s not “romanticizing an abusive relationship”. It’s showing the warning signs of how abuse starts. It’s all some pretty heavy handed symbolism that even a high school student should be able to grasp. Again, I’m not a fan of Hoover- her writing style is fairly unsubtle and by no means groundbreaking. I do think bookstores need to put her work into fiction and not romance, because she doesn’t write romance. Personally, I think it’s because of sexism within the industry that she’s placed in romance. If a woman’s name is on the book, it’s pink and floral, and it’s about a relationship, it’s going into romance.
I hate colleen hoover but what I hate more is that she had an audience before booktok but what I hate even MORE is that booktok has given her an even bigger audience. Colleen's books are so genuinely nasty I would be EMBARRASSED to share them with my online audience if I had one 😭 idek how they got popular
It would make a _little_ sense if they took off because everyone was saying, "ugh I hate myself for reading this trash, please tell me I'm not the only one!" in the grand tradition of garbage romance novels being a guilty pleasure many women indulge in, just like watching junk reality TV--but what's weird is how many of them seem to think it's good writing or fantasize about having that sort of toxic romance in real life... 😓
