Blood on the Clocktower: my favourite game I've never played 

i will say having now actually finished watching the video lol - you may always have to lie (since if you're evil, you can't realistically out that, so if that's not your style, no worries), but it's rarely the case that you have to convince someone you're good from social plays alone. being able to garner trust by collecting and interpreting information from other players is a *very* important clocktower skill, and it's rarely the case that proving whether or not you are good is purely because "you acted more good than someone else" no shame on just watchin the good stuff though, it's how i got into it. part of what makes the game so appealing is that every game has its own unique narrative

followup now that i am rewatching your video now knowing more about the game: the amnesiac is my *least* favourite character-at least, in the way ben burns seems to do it. he creates abilities that have many logical components, e.g. (a) each night choose a player, you get told a number (b) that is how many of that player’s neighbours (c) is currently affected by (d) a madness-related ability. the complexity of this (though some have been three components rather than four) makes it hard to use effectively when you already know the entire rule, comparable to many of the normal character abilities. but when you dont know the rule, you get little to no feedback on its operation; you have to incrementally guess towards it in a very wide search space (because there are so many facets to the game mechanics); with typically three to four guesses at maximum; and at the end of that-*if* you managed to understand it-you have an average- or slightly higher than average-powered ability just as the game reaches the tipping point where most abilities dont matter anymore, or at least not nearly so much as your communication skills and your web of trust. but of course, you spent a good deal of those four days trying to figure out what your ability is instead of establishing that web of trust! so you end up having done little either way for your team, focused more on a puzzle than the key questions of who is which character and who is trustworthy, and will not get an enticing ability as a reward even if you manage to figure it out in time. to me, thats a recipe for boredom and frustration. of course, the NRB sessions arent the only way the amnesiac can be played, but it is striking to me that in all of them its effect was to remove a player from the game. an amnesiac could (and probably should) enlist several players to help in figuring out their ability, to hopefully figure it out faster. and a savvy amnesiac would ask questions that are better at narrowing scope than the NRB examples did. and maybe ben’s design sense is attuned more to experienced riddle-solvers than otherwise. i dont know. but as exemplified in these games it doesnt fit right to me. i would like to see ken playing amnesiac, as it seems a more apt fit for both his relative levels of social and deductive skills.

RU-vid is not the friendliest with links (comments with them may not appear at all to others), but could you perhaps share what we might search to find this thing of yours?

@@ShaunCheahits mostly been discord servers till now, but the official app has just added a lobby system so you can look for open beginner games! Mine are usually called #chill. If you google blood on the clocktower online you should find it. There's 2 apps, the official app requires you to make a free account, the unofficial app doesn;t but also does not have lobbies or voip integrated

Actually just got onto your mention of those two (as well as goofs). On the Adam thing he's gone (probably for good) and TPI are back to work on the live season 2 this month. The only question is if Carley (who says Adam was being... Creepy) is also coming back or if she's gone too. (I hope not, she's great!)

21:47 ohhhhh yeah that's the Jon Leviathan game with Blair as the politician isn't it. That game is *wild*

Well, Among Us uses those more as the overall structure of the "night phrase" of the game. The minigames are The Reason to get out there and split up, after all.

​@@JamesDenholmYeah but they barely factor into actually finding out who is the impostor. Minigames themselves are mostly to kill time.

​@@ShinoSarnayou still couldn't take them out of the game though because they put pressure on the imposter to kill and pressure on the players to split

My brother on the other hand...

For Werewolf, I hear your complaint, but the whole point of the game is that death is explicitly not elimination. Clocktower isn't about surviving, it's about finding the demon before it's too late. In clocktower when a good player is nominated, they often just state their case and conclude with "I've used my ability so you can kill me if you want" because it doesn't matter that much if certain characters die. You still get to play and puzzle out the game and potentially win. That's why it's such an improvement on the Werewolf formula.

Some characters want to die as well. So you can control the negative affect. I also believe a good player Willing to die makes their info more believable. Generally it's okay to die in clocktower as more people are willing to tell you the truth and use you as a way to spread information. It really depends on the group you Play with

If you die in clocktower. You still play the game and talk, and other players can confirm your on the money. And good. So. No harm no foul :)