BM on Fandom Slang & Fan Culture | GET REAL S3 Ep. #33 

Peniel didn't forget to mention "of BTOB" even when Ashley introduce herself as Peniel..aaa my melody heart🥺

9:52 Ashley to Peniel : Give me your best Gangster line Peniel : "SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND"🤣

Shout out to Melody, Hidden Kard and Lavely.. lets be the best, non toxic fandom to our fav 💙

27:34 What is POB in fandom slang ? Peniel : Pre order because I'm busy on the release date 🤣🤣🤣

i'm so happy they at least acknowledged not all of us are toxic! also just a reminder: you're a fan of your faves no matter what anyone else says. you don't need to own certain things to be considered a fan, the duration of how long you've been supporting doesn't matter, and you're allowed to worry about other things other than your faves! just have fun and appreciate the music

Intro - 1:20 BM taking Acting Classes - 1:44 Peniel's Natural Aegyo - 6:04 BM's Take on Good Acting - 15:30 Fan-Culture and Slangs - 21:27 Fandom language Quiz - 22:23 Funniest fandom slangs - 28:01 Do the hosts consider themselves in any fandoms? - 29:19 Early fandoms / "Reply 1997" - 31:24 Photocard Re-sales - 31:52 Kpop Concert experience - 33:27 Pokemon Obsession - 36:39 Fandom Names - 39:33 Kpop fan toxicity - 40:40 Competition/cult/fanwars (Being #1, Streaming culture, losing sleep) - 42:26 "Oppar!" Ashley - 43:46 Hate commenters/keyboard warriors - 45:32 Meeting/interacting with fans in person - 46:29 Communicating with fans thru social media/SNS - 50:26 Cancel Culture - 53:34 Last words to fans - 55:30 KARD and BtoB's Comeback - 59:52 BM's shoutout to that one guy in Los Angeles - 1:00:54 You're welcome! ;)

"Penelope, Big Matilda and Ashley" lol 😂.. I love it ❤

BM asking fans on twt about slang was a field day fr

Peniel was so cute saying "we are the Pokemon?" 😂

The way none of them even bothers to change clothes anymore, even Ashley 😂 i havent finished this ep yet but thanks for the 1 hour episode!!!

Peniel shows his love for melodies through action he is not much of a word guy but he always try to include us in many things especially for international melodies he always interprete what he is saying in two d/t language and he always give us reassurance when something happens....... From what i've seen BM genuinely loves his fans....And ashley my love,words can't express how much melodies love you we ride at dawn for you ashley

Ngl they are one of the most outstanding trio out there love their chemistry ❤ welcome back BM! we missed you🖐

When you mentioned the lightsticks, I remembered another kpop slang: black ocean. It's one of the saddest, I think. A black ocean happens when a fandom turns off their lightsticks collectively to "hurt" a group they don't like while the group is on stage performing. I think it has happened mostly at award ceremonies/concerts, because many fandoms gather there. Overall, black oceans are a sign of disrespect that we despise, because all artists deserve to see an audience with lights on for them. And the reason some fandoms have done it comes from fanwars (another slang xd). Fans not necessarily hate the artists, probably don't even know their music, but if the fandoms become "rivals", they might do black oceans to the other just to prove that "my faves have more fans than yours" kinda thing. Edit: faves is another word we use a lot, but it's not specifically kpop slang, I think.

Peniel teasing Ashley by bringing up the ninja thing 🤣

40:44 kinda ironic that BTOB and KARD are known for having some of the chillest fans. I’m a proud melody and hidden kard haha

Get Real's fandom's name should be "The Realest"

So real for talking about the toxic fans, i hate seeing fans go against each other. When I think of toxic, it makes me think of the fans that swarm the airports... like can we just let our artist breath?

BTOB members always bringing their group's name in their individual projects 💕

This is such an important episode. Three very experienced kpop musicians that are also multicultural dropping great insight.

‘Constructive criticism culture’. Some people are so imaginative in their communication like Peniel. BM is so kind. I love seeing Ashley happy on her RU-vid channel.

I agree with BM. Having fans on GET REAL would be so tight.

I'm a simple person. I hear "Stray Kids", I leave a comment Still waiting for Bangchan and Felix to appear on get real 🙏

Peniel " of BTOB" as always 🤍💙😉

32:28 😭 BM I have sold one of your cards before (and other members) but only cause I had 2 copies. I ordered 4 albums to get each members Makestar POB from KARD's last comeback and also ended up winning a solo call with J.Seph so as a winner I got a second set of the same cards on top of the set that already came with 😅 but I also safely resold the extra albums with everything they came with so people who didn't have the album already could get it. Nothing got carelessly thrown away everything has a home 🥺 not all of us resellers are bad

I’m laughing at Ashley’s interpretation of OOMF🤣🤣

Good on BM for being so strong, sending so much light and love to his family since his mom is battle breast cancer!

Shout out to those well mannered fans whatever fandom you belong. 🙌👏❤

I just loved the way they talked about fan culture. It's so true and the way Ashley and BM said MELODY's are so strong and healthy fandom 🥺 i felt so proud of my Fam 🫶💙❤️ and Peniel saying they take after their idols 😌 that's my best boy 💙❤️🫶

peniel and ashley working hard on that bm/katie loveline, i appreciate the hustle

this is definitely one of the REALEST EPISODES OF GET REAL. I've wanted to hear them talk about fan culture and the good/bad side on it. I love that Ashley was speaking up loudly about this!! Much love to you all Peniel, BM, and Ashley!

i think definitely the industry pumps this idea to fans head if they dont stream their idols are gonna fall out of popularity and disband, so in the end the company profits bc of this and eventually their are those people that get overly obsessed with streaming and can become aggressive/toxic to other fans or fandoms for not streaming. its super sad what the greed of capitalism can do to people.

I pray for the good health and blessing for BTOB, KARD and Ladies Code and each of our fandom as well as the Dive Studios fam. Thank you for this show ❤

37:45 'are you saying we are the pokemon?' 'if we are, ima blastoise' i think i just fell in love

I love how ashley keeps on changing her clothes even when they film these on the same day 😭( I know she just added a jacket this time but she usually changes her clothes and well adding a jacket is still something ) I appreciate her efforts peniel also did a change and took off his hat 😭❤

Fan wars were a thing even 10 years ago. The only difference that before the vibe in general was nice because kpop wasn’t that huge back in the day and people tried to find some friends in that small community. Sometimes it wasn’t that easy because it wasn’t cool to be a kpop fan. Nowadays when kpop gets bigger there are so many toxic fans who disrespect previous generations and act like their idols are the only ones who make kpop globally famous. Shame on them.

Lmao when Peniel was talking about the crying

as a hidden kard, i started watching the podcast to support bm and have been so blessed to meet many incredible people, and it's because of this show that i started listening to a lot of amazing artists (such as ph-1 and junny! who literally dominate my spotify fr) but above all getting to know ladies code and btob, especially once kingdom started. i started watching ashley and joan's youtube. it all became such a safe space for me. thank YOU for all your hard work, dedication, and above all the honesty.

Thanks for those Harry and BM's episodes! I'm feeling spoiled

im so glad ashley mentioned abt the toxicity bcs it needs to be said! and peniel making sure to add btob at first was so cute

I'll never get tired of listening to this trio. It's so chill. They were my happy pill during pandemic lockdown. It's thanks to them that I was able to keep my sanity intact during those trying times. Thanks guys. ❤❤❤

speaking of the Aussie boys, skz is having a comeback soon too! pls invite them to get real! in the past 2 years, chan has been going on live every weekend and talks to stays about the realest and most random shit about life so i believe he’s the best guy to guest on the show. looking forward to this!! 🥺🙏

so excited for bm to be back for this ep! missed him

BM back again! Always so so happy to see him on Get Real again! I can't wait for the new KARD comeback 💙

I appreciate Ashley so much at 44:41 for saying this because it needed to be said. I feel so acknowledged to hear them say this isn't it and that's not what they want. The fact that this came from artists themselves, not wishing this kind of pressure upon their fans. I hope some of the extreme fans out there know this is not the kind of culture artists want you to enforce on fellow fans or potential fans. Don't be so superficial! Artists make art, and art is art before any awards. Just enjoy it for what it is.

I may be an EXO-L, but my Melody heart will always stay around. BtoB brought me to kpop. I will forever be grateful for that. I will always support every member and the whole group. Thank you also for bringing amazing music to this world.

So proud to be a Melody 💙 most precious fanmily that hits closest to my heart and to BTOB as my home 🏠💙💙 Good to see you three together again! Stay healthy with all these schedules coming up! Always supporting you guyssss 😉

Hidden Kard here!! 💖 Waiting for the comeback! 2023.04.10 👏

The first thing I come up with POB is the "Piece of BTOB" project in 2017 LOL Just me being Melody😌💙

If there's a Welcome to Waikiki 3 or So Not Worth It 2...They should cast the whole Dive Studio Crew.

Please have Bang Chan and Felix on the show 🙏 😭 😔 😊

Going from CC to CCC: Cancel Culture --> Constructive Criticism Culture with the Dive crew... always keeping it real.

Always love "BFF vibe" they have. Having lots of special guest is great, but chilling with your bff will always be my fav. Peniel line "say hello to my little friend" really cracks me up and the highlight if this episode is BM's wink+lip biting face 🤣

nothing makes my day as Get Real episodes, especially with my most loved trio❤ thank you Dive Studios, Ashley, Matthew and Peniel!!!💚💚💚💚

As an Aussie, I feel accurately represented 😂

And who dares to said that Peniel is not funny. I keep laughing at all his jokes

Let's go, Get Real Fam!

The OGs are back Penelope, Big Matilda and Ashley let's goooo !!!

hope BM stay as co- host and not just a guest co-host .. original hosts still the best 💙

So many great guests on Dive studios. This podcast is what keeps me motivated at work.

I'm glad Ashley mentioned the people who pretend to be their fans to gain some clout over the accident bcus not gonna lie, the amount of people I fought for this exact reason. Ladies code is more than that, their music before and after is so good and deserves much more appreciation

damn i haven’t been in the fandom culture in a long time and idek they created their own slang. that so crazy.

I love this trio so much, makes me feel like i'm hanging out with friends 💕

This is the most important episode of GR. Cuz we all, as fans, know how these things happen in a daily basis, and it's not pretty! Having idols talking about these issues is so important, maybe some fans can really get real and stop some of those bul**t. Hopefully they will.

BM's voice when he speaks English is just so handsome 😭

Wishing nothing but the worst internet connection to toxic fans

This is a holy trio and I’m really proud to be their fan!

I love junny and ph1 but there’s something about you three (the original hosts) that hits differently. It’s so nice to see you all together again! I hope BM comes on more often 😊

this came at a perfect time for me, I have always been all about the music first and have pulled back from a lot of fandoms because they make everyone miserable. I hope more people get to find their healthy balance. I agree 100% agree that "toxic fans" scare away people who could really get into the music and artists. Happy and healthy truly is all that matters in life!!

i agree about the cancel culture thingy too bcs some people doing that on social media are really just doing that as some kind of performative activism i feel like? its like not even a constructive criticism and its always out of hate instead of care about the actual issue too so its just honestly frustrating to see. like there are actual serious and worse things going on in the world and like ashley said, they're all humans soo yup.

My discovery road: -Became a Melody about 2 years ago, got curious about Peniel's character and Discovered that he was part of a podcast...the Get Real Podcast! -Peniel then has been my Ult Bias (see what I did there? lol) -Fell in love with BM's energy, love for life and positivity, then ultimately became a HK! And thanks to that I attended my first ever K-pop Concert when KARD came to the states!! -Ashley is like the bff I would love to have in my life! She is so real, relatable and has this energy that has no time for BS (neither do I). I had no idea she is a former Idol or that her group has two forever group members ('til like a week ago). -So it has been about two years and I am total DIVEr! -Thanks to DIVE STUDIOS I am able to be further exposed to amazing human beings like Eric Nam, Epik High, Alexa, Junny, Harry + more!! - This is a short summary of my journey as a DIVEr, HK and Melody (I am also a Shawol but that is for another day lol), but in another words I just want to express my gratitude, because y'll have unknowingly been there for me--and many others I am sure - So thank you from the bottom of my heart for doing all that you do. And I do agree 100% with Peniel 56:33 that I too, do my best to reflect my "idols", as you are my inspiration to take care of myself Mentally andPhysically, and to always give it my all and my best in what ever I am doing. - K Im done - ---- Sorry not Sorry but the long azz post, but I just somehow felt compelled to write this essay lol!! --

The old teen magazines used to have photocards for "idols" in the 50-early 00s, but death of print media + importing Asian fan culture kind of killed it. Now its kind of back. FYI I feel old knowing about Tiffany and New Kids on the Block fan groups that only existed through mail. Kind of romantic now, like seeing post cards.

I’m glad you guys are having an open and honest conversation about fan culture, highlighting the good and bad. We definitely need more of this, maybe even dedicated episodes to different aspects of fan culture if possible. And since this industry thrives on parasocial relationships, I would really love to hear your stances on this part of the k-pop industry and fans. Going in detail on the way idols interact with fans, the fan service, the things fans expect from idols (standards of being an idol) and the different ways fan view/interpret their relationship with idols. Also the stalker ‘fans’/sasaengs and how that affects the k-pop experience for both idols and other fans. Great video as always❤

Proposing an idea for Get Real fandom name: Realest!! Cause we're the Realest B)

i'm glad they have a place to address toxic fan culture. only the most brave veteran artists even mention it on any kind of broadcast, and those that do are either called heroes or get backlash.

59:58 Peniel start giving a side look checking the sheet "when is this getting released?" for the BtoB comeback announced😂😂😂

I really liked the whole interview. I love kard too much, I have been hidden kard for 5 years and they are so important to me. It is true that they made me happy millions of times. I met them at a difficult time and they made me smile, that's why I love them with all my heart and am so grateful. I'm glad to know that matt receives all that love from hidden kard, we appreciate their music and we want the best for them

hadnt realized how much i miss matthew on these podcasts until todayyyy😭

They really give siblings energy ❤ peniel and bm took care of Ashley when she was talking about her fans, they were quick at expressing the concern and peniel already ask for tissue ❤

I’m so busy I can’t watch this until I get some free time but i wanna say I’ve been waiting for BM to back im sure this ep will be interesting can’t wait to watch it

As a melody for along time i feel like I'm at home already. Btob and melody are like a home for myself. And sometimes i wanna stan an awesome group but the fans scared me to death 😌 the idols are good quality but bcz of the fans i think they (not fans) less respect to the idols. Cz u know fans represent the idols.

I loved this episode ❤ especially talking about how serious and toxic fandoms can get. I’ve definitely been a fan of many various artists and have been intimidated by some fandoms because of the standards that are built up. Just like how y’all mentioned some people purchasing so many album copies, streaming, and researching everything about their idols can seem a bit over the top. I definitely am trying to not get influenced by that and just enjoy the artists’ music and what they do rather than going overboard. A melody here ✨💘🤟🏼 (I’ll look forward to a BTOB comeback!! It’s been awhile!)

love seeing you three together !! and i hope to see BM in movies and series sooon 🎉

I did not know I missed this trio so much

This was a GREAT great episode. All episodes of Get Real are great but I loved the conversation about toxic kpop fandom behavior (40:42) and especially Ashley saying that doing things like mass streaming to the point where it interferes with your daily life isn't what they as idols/artists want from their fans- being a fan should be enjoyable for everyone. Artists/groups really don't address the issue enough, which is too bad but it's nice to hear those toxic fans being called out for what they are 👏 HEALTHY FAN CULTURE, everyone.

All the real Melodies, Lavlies, and Hidden Kards pull up!!! 💙 💜 ❤

I have been so busy lately...this is my first ep of season 3 that i watched. I really love Get real and this is fave trio ❣ I'm always thankful to this podcast as it keeps me going 😭.I'll try to be more active.

GET REAL honestly.... this is my favorite episodes of get real. you touched on so many actual issues. thank you for all you guys do!

im honestly really glad you guys discussed the extreme toxicity of these fandoms (while also acknowledging that its not everyone) but it really is crazy and kinda gets to dangerous points for the singers as well. also all these few loud toxic fans or antis are just horrible and clearly need help lol like who takes their time out to create multiple accounts and harassing ppl constantly daily?? thats just literally… seek help man😭 but yeah overall im happy y’all were full honest about ur thoughts on it especially that its coming from singers, we can hear your end of your feelings about these crazy situations and hopefully those ppl will learn that y’all see the garbage they throw and that its actually affecting ppl cause yeah you’re entertainers but that title shouldn’t mean that you’re stripped from being human cause y’all are still human at the end of the day.

I’d low-key be down to be on the show 😂

This trio is growing on me, and Im loving it! I love the Dive Studios family!

Let’s go!! King BM is back again again! Oooh it’s about to Get Real

Always proud to be a melody 💙 Hidden kard and lavely are fandoms that we can trust and be friends with. Get real listeners let's make our hosts proud of us too like their group fandoms! 💪

I'm always watching snippets from the pod on my instagram fyp (and already follow dive over there) but never had the chance to watch/listen the full content and wow... I'm sad it took me so long. You guys are so chill and funny. I'm really happy to give it a try!!! ❤

Very interesting show! Many interesting topics discussed in this episode! 👍 looking forward to the next ones!

Fav podcast while doing dishes😌. I am laughing like a crazy person (my family looking at me weird)🤣

omg I am so glad he is back! 💖

Watching these get real episodes makes me realize that I can listen to Peniel talking like this forever!! 💙

Always love this og trio because they’re more than just a podcast dj, they are family. WE LOVE YOU PENI, ASHLEY, & BM.

I hope we will finally have BTOB as Get Real guest for this comeback! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

I love this podcast, I came here first bcs of Peniel, bcs I love his group, but ended up being a big fan of all the hosts and happy to get to know the guests here. I wish I can meet you guys in real life someday, but I can't promise I won't be nervous.