BMPCC4K vs BMPCC6K | Why I will never go back to MFT cameras

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In this video I explain the main differences between the Blackmagic Pocket 4K and 6K and I also tell you why I will never go back to micro four third sensors.
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@matteobertoli Год назад

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@DronkenDrenthen Год назад

I love the 4k and MFT. All a filmmaker needs.

@isaacbedford3644 Год назад

Pocket 4k + Metabones Cine Speedbooster XL 0.64x has wider coverage than the 6K, has a locking EF mount, has more manageable file sizes, can shoot BRAW or ProRes in any resolution, better anamorphic mode, better slow motion, and has a faster rolling shutter.

@shueibdahir 9 месяцев назад

How much is the crop with 0.64?

@furkonige 8 месяцев назад

I could not agree more, MFT is better in many cases than full frame, not in low natural light, but any DP will say: if you need more light then put more light, not change the camera, imagine the times of 8mm or 16mm, black swan is a masterpiece “MFT”

@tientien7778 5 месяцев назад

I heard that XL 0.64x does not fit EF lenses good, it’s better for FF lenses isn’t it?

@isaacbedford3644 5 месяцев назад

@@tientien7778 if you get the cine version which has a locking EF mount, it fits a EF lenses well except for certain zoom lenses with protruding rear optics like the DZO Pictor Zooms.

@PavelNebo 4 месяца назад

@@tientien7778 it does fit EF lenses. what you mean by FF ? EF is the full frame mount for Canon DSLR cameras, EF-S for croped, EF-M from mirrorless crop... just google it

@jmac2050 Год назад

Pocket 4k for the win. Price + Weight + Quality +

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@CKracer86 Год назад

Pocket 6k for life!! love this awesome camera, has never let me down! Thank you Matteo for your amazing Buttery LUTs, they are definitely my go-to colors on set.

@nebukadnezzar3578 Год назад

Love my Pocket 4K‘s with Super16 zooms for live productions, but a 6K definitely gives that wow-factor! :))

@zo.mp4 Год назад

I actually switched from Full frame back to MFT for lens reasons. I own a P4K and a Lumix S5 and I'm selling my S5 for th GH6, just so I can have a lens set usable between both

@LakeHowellDigitalVideo 10 месяцев назад

Exactly. Cine lens for MFT are significantly less expensive than for full frame. You can buy Cine lenses in the $200 to $300. The equivalent lenses for full frame usually run $1000.

@florianbarras Год назад

I got an amazing deal on a pocket 4K with metabone speedbooster and built a Ninon AI-S set that I cine-modded based on your advices on here. I'm really happy with it. Thanks Matteo.

@ndavies8 Год назад

I own both and a Z Cam E2. The differences are not that crazy in my opinion. Sometimes the Z Cam actually looks better than both, other times the 6K looks great. I think it depends on your work and workflow. MFT has come decent glass as of late too.

@ozzythemighty2767 Год назад

You said it. the 6k is sharper as for the pocket4k is way more softer. For me the advantage goes to the pocket 4k for that reason. The over all creamy look gives this caméra an Arri look that no other caméras can imitate. If your going to be a filmmaker and have less budget go 4k. If you gonna do products, promos, commercial.. invest more money & go 6k.

@matteobertoli Год назад

I also said it’s a good sharpness. The 6K is MUCH closer to Arri than the 4K

@ozzythemighty2767 Год назад

@@matteobertoli oh.. i really thought is was the opposite. anyway.. as always great video..& thq

@colinthomas2525 Год назад

It’s the 6k’s highlight roll off and slightly better colour if I’m not mistaken.

@vanzetti7 Год назад

Great video Mattel! I personally love the mft native lenses. The size just makes them so portable, I can carry a great range in my small bag, the 35-100 lumix lens for example (70-200), is smaller than a can of Coke!

@matteobertoli Год назад

Nice! I have to say, my Leica R are incredibly small too

@Sethmotley Год назад

@@matteobertoli and incredibly expensive 😁

@gabydiaz4882 7 месяцев назад

I recently found your channel, and you are amazing. Thank you for giving me the information I need to decide and buy the 6K EF. I love the look of your R leica lenses, but can you recommend more budget-friendly lenses? I am going to start making my own independent films soon, thanks! Best wishes from TJ Mexico!

@simonc4764 Год назад

I like the BMPCC4K. Do you got any MFT lenses and MFT to Canon FD speed booster for sale?

@viniciussa2509 Год назад

Hi... what about native mft olympus lenses? I don't like adapters.

@thegospelcallTGC 4 месяца назад

Thank you for a great video, I love the bmpcc 4k but I am looking forward to the ursa 12k I am saving for. God bless you.

@nonsolorasatura9093 Год назад

What happen if Canon discountinued the EF mount? Apparently this already happen for some primes ... Sure they will work fine the same, for years, if taken care properly, but since inside are present electronic components, probably will last less than manuals lens, at that point, aside for a period of service, mmm.

@nemisis4804MaddLabsTv Год назад

Great comparison Video 🎥🎬🎥🎬 Thank you! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

@BrunoBavose 5 месяцев назад

why the lens are on diferent aputures on side by side? is it far? or honest? Speedbooster comes more coverage for 4k than 6k have, what else the gap of lenses . This brown is good or bad? explain better... this is good or bad? Wouldn't it be a matter of personal taste?

@Deraeking Год назад

Hey Matteo. I have a full set of Zeiss zf2 lenses that I use on my Nikon Z6 but was interested in the Bmpcc 4K or the 6K to use for virtual production. What is the better way to go in your opinion? Getting the 4K will require the Metabones speed booster or the 6K and mod my lenses with an EF mount?

@matteobertoli Год назад

6K ;)

@jimveybe7689 Год назад

I can appreciate the perspective of someone whose skill and budget have outgrown MTF, but I can equally appreciate that of someone with skill and/or funds limited to HALF of the 6k plus rigging and power budget, and thus opt for the 4k. In the end, it doesn't matter what we create on or what sites approve which cameras. It only matters that we create. Not having anywhere to crop in post does wonders for necessity, the father of invention.

@SimplicityForGood Год назад

well it matters what networks and platforms accept your film in the end or we will Never get payed for all our hardwork done.... we are here to survive and make a living while doing something fun... not just being children in a sandbox dreaming of Star Wars pilot school, but actually get out there and make others see out values so to pay us for our skills!

@jimveybe7689 Год назад

@@SimplicityForGood If you ask producers that sell to (not create for) the major outlets, they will repeat my lines. We create and then sell to the outlets. That’s the only way to create in freedom, independent of the studio system and tentacles that would limit our creative choices, including camera, mic and NLE. If someone just wants a job, then sure, ask them what they want you to make and then follow their bitch line. I would never make it in that system, and have no wish to try. Ask Rodriguez, Tarantino and Carpenter.

@citytouchstudios1144 Год назад

I shot an a73 for 5 years I love Sony. I recently purchased my bmpcc6k and I will never look back my clients have grown my work has shown range and the color science is just industry standard.

@dmitriymikhailov1009 Год назад

And what is wrong with speed booster mft/ef ? One speed booster and collect your favourite ef lens)) also speed booster it is less crop many abilities to mount. Am I wrong?

@hasanhaydar4235 Год назад

Hi Matteo how do you compare the bmpcc 6k with the lumix s5 (1500$)? Thank you 🙏

@matteobertoli Год назад

I don’t think they are comparable. Color science and image quality on Blackmagic cameras is much better than any Sony, Canon, Fuji and Panasonic mirrorless

@charlesoxley7242 Год назад

I'd love a Pocket 6k G2, however I'm broke, so for now it's a Pocket 4k for me, and I am very happy with it. I am using EF mount lenses with a speedbooster, and will continue doing so. I figure that at least if I ever go to a different camera, the lenses will still work. Like the saying goes, you date your camera, but you marry your lenses.

@talkintome181 Год назад

Hai there, nice review! Can i ask a question. Would it be possible to make a prof cinematic movie (drama) with a bmpcc? Or is the Alexa that much better? Thnaks, nicolaas

@matteobertoli Год назад

Of course you can. Cameras are not an excuse anymore

@PeterTheodore91 Год назад

Maybe you have heard bout this company from Italy called LucAdapter, they make a kinda full frame conversion for 6K OG and other BM cameras. What do you think about that?

@sebon91 Год назад

So for someone at the beginning, you suggest strongly not a mft but a s35, and go for a g2 instead of a 4K?

@matteobertoli Год назад

Yes

@Farisdaniiel Год назад

Hey man, was wondering if you were to pick 1 camera within the bmpcc6k price, what camera would you get? xh2s,s5ii,fx3/30,etc?

@matteobertoli Год назад

The Pocket 6K

@Corruptlol187 Год назад

i heard those a couple times now that people recommend the g2 over the pro. I just got an amazing deal for a g2 , i was wondering what would be a decent inexpensive nd set for the g2

@matteobertoli Год назад

Nisi irnd ;)

@justin_sanchez_ Год назад

I have a 4k, but I purchased all EF lenses with the hope to eventually upgrade. My main complaints are the MFT mount and the noise, although I do love the camera and its price

@HorrorManiacsGermany Год назад

same problem here, the 4k needs a lot of light... and that is a big problem in low light :(

@vanzetti7 Год назад

Sorry to ask Matteo, just wondering why you don’t like the internal ND of the BMPCC 6K Pro?

@matteobertoli Год назад

6 stops is the 2 and 4 on top of each other. So that generates chroma noise in some of my test. They also don’t cover the entire IR spectrum so I had a lot of IR pollution issues. There is also a noticeable blue/magenta cast on it. I much rather have high quality IRND.

@vanzetti7 Год назад

@@matteobertoli thanks heaps, I am saving for a Nisi True Colour ND filter. Oh boy they can be expensive.

@PaulPaul-vj2vx Год назад

Cant help myself, but i love your 4k canon fd shots😂😂

@rectape Год назад

Hi, how do you adapt FD lenses on EF mount?

@getfmlr Год назад

Send them in to Simmod. If you use the commercially available adapters you will lose the ability to infinity focus.

@Nick-4K Год назад

Once you go GH6 open gate 5.7K. it's hard to use anything else.

@hunterh9502 Год назад

Just get the 4k. BRAW 4k much better data rate/ quality ratio. Much more versatile mount. Much more compact if needed when traveling. Both require power solution for longer shoots, and both need an external monitor for pro shoots. I wish I would have gotten the 4k first. I opted for the 6k pro first

@jordanhurd1988 Год назад

Could you explain more on why you don’t like the nd filters in the 6K Pro? Is it color shift? IR pollution?

@matteobertoli Год назад

They are 2 nd. They go on top of each other to make the 6 stops. Chroma noise is present and also they don’t cover completely from IR pollution. So you still need to put a clear ir filter on it. At that point I’ll just rather use high quality nisi irnds

@marvinfilmaker Год назад

Nice ! Thank you

@normalworldfilm Год назад

Ah, cool to know the Ursa12k is actually 1.3x... good balance between FF and s35. I agree 1.6x is a bit tight. 1.3x is nicer for shooting in 2.35 without anamorphics.

@xeximaxi Год назад

thx for suggestions

@jeremiasschneider247 Год назад

Some additional differences between 4k vs 6k: The 6k has better low light capabilities The 4k has better rolling shutter

@kendrickgray2873 Год назад

6k can be dropped down to 5.7k for the same rolling shutter

@kendrickgray2873 Год назад

@@danielhuang2488 bigger sensor and the 6k downscaled kills' more noise

@alchemymagick Год назад

Thanks! The large 6k file sizes are the only thing holding be back from upgrading my P4K. That and also my P4K has the Tilta screen mod which allows you to see when filming yourself. The 6k although has articulating screen, doesn’t allow you to swivel it around like that. I’m also wondering, when do you think Blackmagic will release the next Pocket cam?

@dcfanforlife533 Год назад

Literally 2 t5s and you're set! The day you switch to 6k you will hate yourself for all the time you wasted trying to make the decision.

@deyomash Год назад

I think you can shoot 4k RAW nowadays on the 6k right?

@kendrickgray2873 Год назад

file sizes arent that much bigger. Just shoot 12:1 or 8:1 in 6k

@imiy Год назад

@@dcfanforlife533 not really. Rented 6k once and it was quite heavier to edit. And the same sigma 18-35 appeared darker.

@imiy Год назад

@@dcfanforlife533 and you have to put those t5s somewhere with those cables... I can't believe they didn't employ that SSD solution from the mod.

@drmatthewhorkey Год назад

Thanks for commenting on my channel. I’m aiming to move to Lisboa next year. Nice review of the Black Magic Pocket Cinema cams… I wanna change my systems to Sony in the next year.

@matteobertoli Год назад

Nice! Hit me up if you need some advices! Email is in my about tab

@drmatthewhorkey Год назад

We’ll share some wine when I get there!

@1clap Год назад

Interesting, though it happens a producer has asked me to shoot a proof of concept of the 4K for film to go on theater screen, with dark and night scenes. This is where you need MFT lenses extra sharp with good aperture like the sirui anamorphic.. Potato jet showed that the 4K operated better in the dark than a red.. so I think I'll post my shots for the theatrical movie testing with the 4K..

@1clap Год назад

@@christianj1584 here is a quick test I had made on night fall to show some of the possibilities (there's another one more complete with noise comparison, but I haven't uploaded it yet) .. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xTwsnC4_cQ4.html

@Loftikaz Год назад

I have 4k even I can afford 6k pro because of its size mainly I shoot a lot in public spaces and have to look as unpro as possible. i later convert with AI to 8k and see extar sharpness and detail if I needed

@rayanayash Год назад

I agree that investing in new gear for MFT isn’t the most future proof, however the quality provided for example by the BMPCC4K, is incredible. A lot of underestimated lens combinations. You have to think outside of the canon-box ie F>BMPCC4K metabones adapter paired with Zeiss ZF.2 as well as some special Nikkor lenses (17-55 DX is the best photo zoom lens I have ever used for videos. Also reminder that Tilta’s flip screen modification to the BMPCC4K and 6k gave these cameras an extra 4 years of innovation: The tilting action is better than the one on the 6K PRO and allows you to have an internal NVME SSD. Food for thought!

@matteobertoli Год назад

The Pocket 4K is a great camera, but the 6K is objectively better as I said many times in the comments and in the video. To me it just sounds like people never even tried the 6K and they just claim the 4K is better because of an extra stop of light using the speedbooster. I can also use Nikkors, FDs, Leica R and many other vintage lenses on my 6K without having 2x crop. Again, not saying the 4K is a bad camera, it’s great, but the 6K is much improved and once you put them side by side you will never go back to the 4K.

@BrunoBilali Год назад

@@matteobertoliia Matteo sto acquistando in questo momento una 4k e volevo chiederti Ma questo se questo tanto acclamato speed booster è strettamente necessario per la resa finale. Grazie

@simonemazzetti Год назад

Always the best 😉

@nes.torfernandez Год назад

I’m currently using the 6k but don’t have experience with the 4k although I do know the flags of MFT and I agree with you plus I’m to spoiled with my pocket 6k to even consider switching, this is coming from someone who shoot Sony with the siii and fx3

@orangeclover21 Год назад

Would you be able to give me some basic pros and cons of the 6k and fx3? I’m feeling reluctant to purchase the FX3 only because of the lack of internal nd.

@Kadehr Год назад

The 4K is definitely cheaper. But what I didn't like with the 4K is : the really bad noise between 640 and 1250 iso if there are dark parts in the image(and it's a color noise, really really bad), the "muddiness" or softness on people's faces when the subject wasn't well lit (like frome 4:47 to 4:51 , for example) Overall it's a really solid camera, for the price. But you have to be aware that your subjects need to be well lit, if you want to have a stellar image quality I sold my 4k few months ago. I think I'll buy a 6K or a 6K pro in near future; I love Blackmagic interface, and how these cameras are so easy to use! And the image quality, for that price range!

@isfproductions Год назад

Are you shooting at the base iso on the 4k 4oo and 1250?

@oddittydotco Год назад

i wish the bmpcc and the fuji xt4 were full frame 🙏

@MrFernando311 Год назад

yeah 6k is better! but if you think to use anamorphic lens too, mft its a better choice, because its so much cheaper

@alexciprian Год назад

I have both the 4k and 6k. I just get excited every time I see the image from the 6k. Something about the 4k that just doesn't have as much depth.

@dblack6544 Год назад

1st here. Once again thank you Matteo 🙌🏾 from the UK

@Mark.Trickster Год назад

Great Matteo, important information! PS. Here you look like Stanley Kubrick :)

@mcelliot Год назад

But why now start investing in a lens line like Canon EF when Canon have rendered them redundant ?

@hbp_ Год назад

I don't like EF neither. It's physically better than MFT but it's still a bayonet mount. I was happy with EF for more than a decade (on stills) but now it pisses me off how many lenses tend to move slightly on the mount when touched and how hard it's to mount relatively big lenses like a ZEISS LWZ.3. Now Canon is probably killing EF slowly with RF. Although, they still apparently support the EF cine lenses and cameras. I have been wondering if this is a threat to the existence of the EF mount on BMD cameras. Or perhaps it becomes the new M42 mount and keeps living. I guess I'll just keep using EF because it's a convenient way to share smaller lenses between stills and video cameras. B4 (prime) lenses have a too small image circle, PL lenses are super bulky, and E mount is good only if you go all-sony.

@kolecava Год назад

I do like P4K look but at the same time, my favourite glass is not MFT and holy shit adapting glass is riddled with issues.

@oh_ilya Год назад

The one thing I didnt understand what the problem if you already invested in EF lenses to buy just one mft-ef speedbooster and get a wider FOV then BMPCC6K. I mean it's ok if you decided to invest in EF not MFT, but I think it is not a main reason to change a camera.

@matteobertoli Год назад

You CANNOT use EF modified Leica with a ef speedbooster. Lots of issues with the rear element and infinity focus. Honestly, i don’t care about a slightly wider field of view. I do care about noise level, skin tones and roll-off much much more and I much rather have my A and B cam both EF (Ursa and Pocket)

@oh_ilya Год назад

@@matteobertoli Oh I didnt know that modified Leica has a some issues with a speedbooster. Sure its very important to have one mount in two cameras. Thanks for reply Matteo!

@wildflowers30 Год назад

haha dang i just got the bmpcc 4k as my first camera ever. I'm too broke for the 6k g2 hopefully i can upgrade one day but for now I'll do my best with what i got 😭

@ardiyanto.t Год назад

Can yo read that secret message from Anson?.. Why G2.. fp is better 😇😀🙏

@wildflowers30 Год назад

@@Ansonandco I forgot to reply to you but yes thank you for the encouragement!

@AngGabriel Год назад

I recently shot an interview using my 6k pro and borrowed a buddy's 4k for another angle. Used a speed booster on the 4k. The difference is a lot. A lot more noise, definitely less sharpness, overall image from the 4k in comparison to the 6k pro was very underwhelming. I agree with all the points you made just from that 1 experience I had with the 4k. The funny thing is I was on the fence on purchasing another 6k or 4k to add as a second camera. But after my experience I'd definitely buy another 6k. Probably the 6k pro as the ND filters are life savers. But yeah, you nailed it. Thank you as always

@MacVitRu Год назад

speedbooster Viltox or Metabones EF-MFT or Metabones Cine BMPCC4K? The last of the three is the best and specially made for BMPCC 4K (the rear lens is 2mm closer to the camera sensort)

@AngGabriel Год назад

@@MacVitRu thats super interesting. I think it was was the metabones EF-MFT. Would be interested in seeing the 2mm version. But overall the BMPCC6k Pro just produces a much better image. I probably wouldnt have cared as much if I didnt see the difference or if there was no 6k in the market. But man, you cant unsee after you see. No living after the dead. HAHA. okay you get the point. But still, would like to see the Metobones Cine. Which brings the question. if you get the 4k, add the metabones, you're basically sitting at the price of the 6k. Smaller camera, lower res, worse battery, but 4k no crop whereas in 6k you get a crop if you shoot 4k. I might just wait to see what BM has in store for a future camera. I'm sure they'll announce something in 2023. We're not far off.

@ELJAGUAR Год назад

My main issue with 6K is the crop factor as I seen myself lot of times in tight running and gunning scenarios where speedbooster and 4k is giving me more room. Also agree with the brownish and contrasty side but I think new gen 5 is fixing that. Also the 4K is definitely helping you save space but with all of that I would probably soon change to 6K

@Frontigenics Год назад

Yep, I'm still a fan of the P4K specifically for this reason. 6K isn't as important to me as having a nearly FF image (1.2x) . Especially how I shoot... which is spherical 2.35:1. Having a 1.2x instead of 1.6x goes a LONG way in giving you more DOF control and lens options when framing wider for that 2.35:1 image.

@matteobertoli Год назад

Skin tones look brownish even with gen5. You just need a wider lens. I wish they will come up with a pocket with 1.3x crop like alexa and the ursa

@pichienko Год назад

@@matteobertoli just a wider lens, like a fisheye 8mm and then you can crop it, easy peasy

@JonasStuart Год назад

Interesting Matteo, sounds like you're still more a fan of the 6K than the 12k even? I'm using a P4K with Zeiss Milvus f1.4s (nikon mount with ef adapters) and LOVE the look I get. I use them with and without a metabones .64xl. My choice was with the future in mind. I lean more towards to the Ursa 12k than P6k as my next purchase (either way I'll keep the P4K as a second cam). These lenses will work on either plus many other cameras, but they're still amazing on the P4K. Only real limitation with the metabones is you loose edge to edge sharpness on these otherwise sharp lenses (nb, they're not overly sharp like sigma for instance) and focus roll-off isn't as sweet but it's quick for me to switch adapters and I find the system works really well for me. I'd love to try them on a P6K or Ursa 12k!

@matteobertoli Год назад

Hey Jonas! No, the 12K plays in a league of its own. Absolutely insane, but it’s also the magic inside the BM in house sensor. After I got the Ursa 12K I literally never rented an Arri anymore. But between the 4K and the 6K, the image quality is much better on the 6K I believe. Again, the 4K is great, but the 6K just has something more :)

@JonasStuart Год назад

@@matteobertoli Glad you feel that way about the 12k. Have you used the Ursa 4.6 G2? Stil tempting - I've seen it matched flawlessly with Arris. I'm after the 12k for a number of reasons, bigger sensor, image/colours, high frame rate options (esp. without crop). I'd still keep the p4k for it's physical size file sizes low light (with the metabones & milvus f1.4) etc but I guess in a perfect world I'd get a 6k too 🤩

@matteobertoli Год назад

@@JonasStuart i did. The 12K is better. Much improved NDs, in house sensor, 12,8, 4k no crop. And let me tell you, that 8k 120p is unbelievable. You miss prores, but to be honest I only shoot braw since it’s lighter.

@JonasStuart Год назад

@@matteobertoli I've had my P4K for 2 years and only put it into ProRes once. Braw is just too good. Thanks for your thoughts °¬)

@wakkowarner8810 Год назад

I need to get a pocket 6k in the future.

@talizhakniya9469 Год назад

I'm using both the 4k and 6k for 2-3 years now.. daily.. I love my 4k+metabones 0.71x not less than the 6k.. the FOV is actually a huge deal and I'm pretty sure I'm getting more light with the metabones with the same canon 24-105 mkII for example..

@Loftikaz Год назад

if you use Topaz Video AI you can convert 4k to 6k or or 8k to match details

@donndior1536 Год назад

@@Loftikaztf that's not how it wotks

@aperturefilm Год назад

I hate to disagree on this Matteo but the main thing is that, the camera doesn't matter if you know what your doing :)

@ozzmanzz Год назад

Couldn’t agree with you more. The pocket 4k is a brilliant camera which can use other lens systems with the appropriate adapter. The 6k is stuck in the EF world which is showing its age and is being replaced by other lens mounts.

@philippscheithauer Год назад

At some point you will hit a limit and that’s where the camera will matter.

@unknownapplication10 Год назад

TRY to film with sony handycam then 🤣

@aperturefilm Год назад

@@unknownapplication10 lol

@matteobertoli Год назад

I am only explaining why for me it made sense to jump on a s35 Pocket based on my lens set and why I think the 6K is objectively a better camera. People entering the market ask me if they should get a 4K or a 6K all the times. That’s my answer to those people. If you are a terrible cinematographer you will shoot crappy movies even with an Arri Alexa, but that has absolutely nothing to do with what it’s being discussed here.

@AndyLSB Год назад

As a current MFT (GH6) user/owner of many cameras and a Fan of your work for some time now, I have to agree and sort of disagree with you Matteo, everything you mention is true, my MFT lenses are JUST for MFT cameras, I love my Lumix Leica glass but I can't use them on another system, I recently went for the Sony FX30 (was a Sony hate, even using the higher end models) just for curiosity, I really really like it, its a fantastic camera, I love how my Sigma 18-35mm looks on my GH6 with a speedbooster, it has more DOF because it's slightly wider than the 1.56 crop on the FX30 but the look is more pleasing IMO on the FX30, can't really explain why, but the part where I disagree (sort of) is that the MFT is still a great and fantastic system and I will own it for cameras like the GH6 which is outstanding and probably future cameras to come, I really want to add a P4k just for fun, I've used it plenty but never owned it, and I do want the P6k too, So far the Sony system is awesome because there is room to grow further If I want and need. P.S. I do know this video was your personal opinion on why YOU wont go back to an MFT system but I just wanted to share my thoughts too, cheers buddy, love your work!

@AndyLSB Год назад

@@Ansonandco hey buddy !!! 💪🏻

@matteobertoli Год назад

Hey! Yeah I said it in the video, my biggest concern was developing a solid lens set that I could use on any camera and that was not possible with a MFT camera. I think many people have no idea that you can’t use Leica R EF with an EF Speedbooster. Rear element issues and you can’t focus to infinity. If you want to use Leica R with a metabones you need a Leica R to mft speedbooster. Honestly? I was so tired to be trapped in this speedbooster thing and i did my testing. Even tho the metabones does an incredible job, it still not the same as having a native lens on its native mount. In my case is much better to have an EF Lens set and both my A cam and B cam EF. Still, with the Pocket 6K you have improved noise level and skin tones, smoother roll-off, better batteries and tiltable screen. For me it was a no brainer to get a S35 Pocket :)

@AndyLSB Год назад

@@matteobertoli yeah I get your point, you’re right, I myself am still experimenting with the FX30 and it’s ecosystem and contemplating the Pocket 6k for a future, who knows, maybe a near one, but I’m sure the GH6 will be on par with it as a B-Cam or close enough, I need to establish a lens set too it’s expensive getting lenses for multiple systems 😂

@matteobertoli Год назад

@@AndyLSB that’s why you need one system ;) panasonic is ok, but trust me, image on the blackmagic cameras is just on another level

@AndyLSB Год назад

@@matteobertoli hahaha oh I know, I’ve work with the Ursa G2 and P4K it’s fantastic, watching your work through out the years makes me want the a BM for my self, I’ll search for a deal on a 6k 😂

@billyoung9538 10 месяцев назад

I'm sorry, but there isn't a lens you mentioned I can't put on the pocket 4k; however I can't put the MFT lenses on the other cameras. Translation MFT has MORE lens options than the other DUE the it's mount adaptability, AND if I ever need a tiny lens to use in a limited space then there is always the option to switch to a c-mount and shoot in super 16 mode. Yes, super 16 mode is only 1080p, but IF Blackmagic comes out with another MFT camera I would hope it's a higher resolution.

@matteobertoli 10 месяцев назад

Still, you have an incredibly small sensor with 2x crop that will make every lens you could think about it way too tight. A 24mm canon fd will become a 48mm, a 50mm will become a 100 and so on. So unless you buy a speedbooster for every single mount you are stuck with native MFT lenses. Forget about Leica R, Nikkor AIS etc.

@billyoung9538 10 месяцев назад

@@matteobertoli I already have several focal reducers, speed boosters & adapters. Typically 1 of those is less expensive than buying a second lens and makes any lens for the given mounts pull double duty achieving multiple field of view equivalents. Yes, the widest aperture varies, but given most focal reducers achieve roughly the equivalent of a sensor size of a 1.42 crop on the pocket 4k I'm already doing better than the 1.6 of the pocket 6k.

@broaf Год назад

I am still using BMMCCs (I have two of them), and also have an Olympus for hibryd type of shooting. I understand your point, but I am on the other end of this train of thought. If I will not have to, I dont want to switch from MFT because of the smaller, lighter setup, and I also like the look of its "small film factor". I am not only using native MFT mount (Olympus Pro) lenses but S16 sized set of Kiev-16u and Zeiss lenses. Again, it is a totally another perspective, and probably I will never get cool jobs for commercial or TV-ad with these, but these are more of an artistic choice not a livelihood decision. And probably, if a commercial type shoot comes around, a higher budget equipment will be rented anyway.

@matteobertoli Год назад

Yep, those are amazing for personal projects ;)

@dronek7934 Год назад

🤲 i have just bought bmmcc too :) and last year - older sister - bmpcc :)

@broaf Год назад

I would say this was a great idea. Unique look and IQ still holds up very well. But another would say "no 4K small sensor" blablabla

@dronek7934 Год назад

@@broaf I was searching for cage. Didnt find any. Then somehow I managed to put it in bmpcc half-cage 😃

@dronek7934 Год назад

Also I would like to ask You, how You are editing 3:1 raw files? I am using premiere pro, but looks like it cannot handle these.

@connorframe8262 5 месяцев назад

I will consider this camera if for some reason my Blackmagic Pocket 4K dies on me.

@topicruben Год назад

Too bad you returned the 6K Pro. I'm sure Blackmagic design would've fixed the ND's for you. Many things were fixed later with newer firmwares. It has better recording choice capabilities than the 6K. Maybe it's the first time I respectfully disagree with you, lol, but I wouldn't change my 6K Pro for a 6K. I do agree with not going back to MFT though. Thanks, Matteo

@matteobertoli Год назад

There was nothing to fix. They can’t put the Ursa 12K NDs in a $2500 camera. Of course they are lower quality and they use the 2 and 4 stops to make the 6 one, which is not a very good idea imo. Also, you still need to use IRND, so at that point I rather use high quality irnd

@xaralamposmaniada6009 10 месяцев назад

bmpcc cameras are like old wine, the older the better....bmpcc original is the best of all and whichever cam is closest to it is better

@lnz3704 Год назад

Please talk about IR pollution on 6k pro. Thank you !

@matteobertoli Год назад

Not much to say. Use an IRND filter ;)

@lnz3704 Год назад

Thanks ! It turns out that the IR pollution is a “nature problem” of digital sensor even some super high end camera has it. So yeah its acceptable. And i just found that Tiffen natural ND filter is currently the best solution

@jacksonpetit1212 Год назад

@@lnz3704 Formatt Hitech IRNDS are the best!

@CameraCombo Год назад

So, I wonder if there is a use-case for MFT? Or, are you just saying that we should get the biggest lenses on the biggest mount available for some sort of bizarre "future proof" scenario where no one ever changes lenses or gets new ones and grow old with back pain? Uh no thanks.

@MichaelWeizenfeld Год назад

Finally! Yep. the same thoughts. Small sensor sizes can't compete to larger. No matter what anyone says, but 35mm (on mft) is not 50mm (on s35). Things get even worse when we compare a wider lenses. On the other hand, with full-frame cameras, you will have to use lenses that are too long, which makes the depth of field too narrow. So the S35 is the golden mean.

@imiy Год назад

Of course 6k is more advanced. But it's expensive as well. if someone doesn't have money for 6k, no need to doubt. Just get 4k, it is amazing as well. My laptop handles editing 4k much better than 6k.

@matteobertoli Год назад

I am pretty confident that someone that has $1300for a Pocket 4K, can definitely afford to spend $700 more. Or you can get a used like new condition 6K for $1500. So price is not the issue here.

@imiy Год назад

@@matteobertoli you are wrong.

@atticustay1 6 месяцев назад

@@matteobertoliwhy do you think they would be able to spend 700 more? That makes no sense

@MichaelAddlesee Год назад

With the 4K it was always about the value. The quality you can achieve at low price.

@matteobertoli Год назад

The 6K is stupid cheap tho

@MichaelAddlesee Год назад

@@matteobertoli It depends how much money you have and how many cameras you need. I have three 4Ks for doing multicam audio/video live performance recording and even that was a stretch financially for me.

@modiartstudio Год назад

Wow… if one of the reasons is can’t use the mft lenses in the future on a Ursa or Alexa, I still can keep my 4K.

@matteobertoli Год назад

It’s one of the reasons. Main reasons are also mentioned in the video. Roll-off, skin tones, low light, better noise ;)

@askmeaboutmymixtape Год назад

Truth here, after purchasing the GH6 earlier this year I was blown away by the 5.7k resolution and HFR modes but disappointed seeing how the value of this format has taken a sharp taper off, Blackmagic just offers a better look and really smooth workflow, I will look into this G2 version!

@Rsp42 Год назад

The gh6 is a different tool, in many ways better then the bmpcc6k. The fx30 also, these cameras are made better for run and gun, hence why I use it for different jobs. Black magics are only good for b cam short films/music videos/commercials

@askmeaboutmymixtape Год назад

The gh6 is the best m43 camera there will ever be, but in the looks department it is a but limited. And trust me I’ve speedboosted to Cine lens, shot indoor outdoor, and tried many different rigs. I love that the camera doesn’t overheat, it doesn’t crop in 4k, I think raw was added external in a recent firmware but it’s just not a buttery as a s35 sensor on Komodo, bmcc6k canon or anything.

@user-xs9wh8ob9q 8 месяцев назад

I enjoyed the subjective review that wasn't convincing at all.

@dpc4548 Год назад

I'm a DOP and love my super 35. I will always stay with MFT for that exact reason. The flexibility and quality is through the roof.

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Naah you are a bit wrong. Colors doesn’t really matter if you are using BRAW. If you know what you doing in post you can even get close to look of arri or red. I came to blackmagic from canon so I did have a lot of canon lens but I only bought 4K. Though I do rent 6K a lot. Both cameras looks similar but they are completely different systems. Often I need to shoot on small gimbal with zoom lens so for that I used 4K without cage with v90 sd cards, on regular battery and with olympus pro 12-40 f/2.8 + tilta nucleus. I have so much possibilities with this system and it is very lightweight. The same setup but on 6K weighs 2-3x more and is unusable for a long shoots without any support system. Also I can easily switch to great meike cine lenses that I bought a set. Unfortunately cine lenses for super35 or LF are incredibly big and heavy. But If you are working on tripod or you are building a rig and you have space for big external battery, heavy lenses etc then 6K Gen 2 or 6K Pro could give you better results.

Год назад

@@danielhuang2488 Yup until now I used color checker to match all cameras. Yet if you shoot in PRORES (and a lot of people do) camera color processing might be more important but still you can easily match them in post.

@Keilikeramen Год назад

I want to use v60 sd card do you know which setting is for 4k braw is the best choice I'm tried to bring ssd t5 samsung everytime, I want to keep low profile