Hey Bjorn, if you could test the i4 edriver 40 would be great.. it should have much better range and also seems like overall better value proposition :)
You got distracted while ending an statement at 5:02 I will receive my i4 M50 in july. Was waiting for you to upload videos about the i4 for a long time, thank you!
This shows how incredible tesla is at efficiency. A Sr+ goes the same distance as the BMW while having 38% less capacity. That means poor BMW have to buy 38% more cells for their car which is already the most expensive part of the vehicle AND their cost of buying cells per kWh has got to be significantly higher than Tesla's in the first place because they just don't have the same volume. Crazy. I like this car but that range just doesn't cut it where I live. It's hard enough as is with my M3DM.
All Teslas had 18 wheel size and BMW i4 m50 had 19 size. So this makes a diference and impactes the bmw range in a negative way. Not fair comparison. I gess if the BMW had 18 wheels the range would be about the same as the equivalent model 3 preformence that had the 18 wheels in his test. The diference in range was only 50 km, what could be explained by the diference in wheel size.
All Teslas had 18 wheel size and BMW i4 m50 had 19 size. So this makes a diference and impactes the bmw range in a negative way. Not fair comparison. I gess if the BMW had 18 wheels the range would be about the same as the equivalent model 3 preformence that had the 18 wheels in his test. The diference in range was only 50 km, what could be explained by the diference in wheel size.
BMW i4 M50 is an AWD with about 540hp, Tesla M3 SR+ is a RWD with less performance... The i4 edrive40 with RWD like the M3 SR+ has a longer range than the M50 for sure.
The SR+ is only rear wheel drive, is much lighter and has smaller tires, which makes a big difference. The difference to the Model 3P is already not that big, despite still having smaller tires. The bottom line is that the Model 3 is more efficient, no question about it, but nowhere near as big as you make it out to be. I'd rather BMW continue to build high-quality premium cars with a great chassis and comfort, which are heavier but have other advantages, than that they build a naked car trimmed for efficiency. There are other manufacturers for that. It's good that you have a choice.
True but this costs 30k€ more (or 40k€ with options) so they probably still end up earning more money with this. And it's sold out well into 2023 which makes me think that outside of this EV comparison bubble people don't really care that it's a bit thirsty.
Thanks for the review Björn, great as always. I have ordered a White i4M50 and I got to testdrive a democar the other day, it was just amazing to drive and I hope that I have made a good choice, time will tell 😊. I live in Sweden so I will be affected by the same weather as in this video, but I rarely do longrange driving in winter though and I think I will get the 18" wheels for winter tyres (will have 19" for summer). The thing I'm a bit worried about is the longer drives in summer during the holiday season, since we are lightyears after Norways charging infrastructure It will probably be a problem for all of us non-Tesla ev-owners. But I guess it will be better the years to come and I'll just have to make sure that I'm in no rush to get to my destination 🙂.
I really like when they connect driver screen to the secondary screen. It really makes sense. Looks so much smoother. And not the big “computer screen” like Tesla.
As an i3 driver, I'm really starting to warm up to this car. It's nice to see other longer range cars coming to market from reputable mfgs. I like the cars that Tesla makes, but I don't necessarily want a Tesla. The future is now. Welcome.
Majority of people would get the i4 eDrive40, would be interesting to see test of that version rather than the performance version which has less range. Will/can BMW give you an i4 standard version with the longer range for tests or is it only the i40 m50 that is available to you?
@@josefsoltes8572 Actually the price difference between the 40 and M50 used to be only $1k, but now it is more like $4-5k. That’s why many ppl just went for the M50. Plus, in Norway 4 wheel drive is important.
Thanks for the test! I was wondering if you did play around with the driving modes (eco pro vs comfort) and if you noticed any significant differences in terms of range. In my BMW i3 and 330e it does make quite some impact.
It seems to me that 300 km in winter and 400 km in summer are more than enough for 99% of trips. How often do you travel such distances? I think once or twice a year. The car is charged at night in the garage, during the day you drive to work, perhaps to a store or restaurant, but this is clearly less than 150 km. I care more about comfort and ride pleasure than range.
Been driving the Kona EV, which is similar to this. Absolutely no issues whatsoever. There is always a fastcharger, but it's all about charging at home and at your destinations. Visit a city somewhere for an hour or two? Plug it in, every KM counts.
As owner of an ioniq5 - similarly thirsty to this car - I totally agree with your comment. But although we don't need Tesla's efficiency, these cars need the same route planner quality. And this is the only real part I envy Tesla owners for.
Thanks, Bjorn for another great review and, as usual, a really informative & entertaining video. If you can, it would be great to see a review of the BMW i4 M40, which will undoubtedly prove to be the big seller. I'm really interested to see whether the i4 M40 can compete with the Model 3 in real-world driving. Thanks again!
I currently own a 530e, my 3rd BMW, and looking to move to EV this year. Needless to say, I have a BMW bias. I was planning to purchase a TM3 until BMW came out with the i4 sedan. I also considered the Mercedes EQE versus i4. IMO, the interior of the Mercedes is luxurious compared to BMW which is very dated. It makes the Tesla interior look rather cheap. But starting price of $70k for EQE puts a pause on that model. Never even considered the EQC.
I wonder how much a set of Michelin MXM4 or other eco focused tires would improve the range. It makes quite a large difference on the Model 3 just switching from one tire to the other.
At 08:50 you mention in the distribution list 48/53. Think you had a typo error on that one 😊. For the rest thanks for all the effort and time you put in your channel. Keep up the great work Björn 👌.
Hey Björn really nice to see such good videos on this BMW. Any chance of an EQB test after this? ;) They are running great campaigns here in sweden and I want the best EV reviewer to get his hands on it before I even consider it. I also think BMW are very stubborn about tyres because they are very big into the Run flat tyres.
I drive a rented Tesla 3 long range and now I did put an order for a new Tesla 3LR. I was also looking at this i4 50m... But the high weight and really bad energy consumption put me off this car. Also I dont like the interior space in BMW since it is not based on electic only car. But your test only said that I made the right move since it is 25 to 30 % less efficient then Tesla3.
From Björn's table Model 3 Performance 18" wheels: 174 w/km I40 M50: 207 w/km -> Tesla consumption is 84% of BWMs. I am surprised that it is that small. Also M3 had 18" wheels. Copy from insideEVs: "His results show 293 Wh/mile with the 18s. With the 20s, he typically sees 350 to 380 Wh/mile. " So if Tesla would have bigger wheels, difference would be smaller ... 5% - 10%?? Anyway difference is almost insignificant for performance version. M3 LR is then clearly better... but clearly less performance also ... although still plenty enough ...
Markus Nusser lol I’m sure you do. You can see at 18:20 even in the worst conditions at the highest speeds the Model 3 LR barely gets over 200Wh/km. The i4 is literally *35% worse than that*. Try it at even lower temperatures and the difference gets even worse
@@pmkgamingtv model 3 is only 7cm shorter and their width is identical. The only reason bmw is so heavy is because it’s not a dedicated ev platform. Better sound insulation maybe but they are not weighing anywhere near half a ton
Thanks for the video, what a nice car but out of my pocket 😪, just a question bjorn if you gonna get the cupra born some point to test? Hope so looking forward to get your view about it. Thanks again 👏
In Norway, with its very advanced charging infrastructure, is "Range Anxiety" really a thing? Comparing the Model 3 to an i4 is a lot like comparing an Accord to a 5-series; roughly the same size class, but nobody would ever expect the same efficiency out of the BMW. BMW pays huge attention to NVH and sound deadening and it shows, as well as a rich interior. If charging is a non-issue, either at home or rapid, does "consumption" really matter for a premium luxury sedan? Compared to the purchase price, the annual electricity cost "savings" are utterly irrelevant to the prospective buyer. (again, typical BMW drivers don't care if their 5-series gets mediocre fuel economy, it's simply not something they would even consider as an "issue"...)
Range anxiety isn't a thing IMO. Most cars will plan the route out ahead for you and most chargers have live status updates. So the car knows how many stalls are available. Even if not, ABRP will do that for you very reliably. Consumption is more of a engineering thing than a luxury thing. Yes the interior and sound deadening add weight but not 600kg extra compared to a Model 3. The car could've been more efficient if they had better hardware and software. Audi improved the efficiency of their cars, the Q4 E-Tron has the same range as the E-Tron even though it has a much smaller battery. It's not as much about consumption in itself, but high consumption leads to less range and more reliance on high power chargers. You add less range in an hour compared to a Tesla Model 3 Long Range if you only can get to a 50kW charger. It's BMWs 2nd generation of EVs and I expect the efficiency to improve. BMW's company cars are known to be quite efficient, a 320d will average around 6l/100km of diesel so why shouldn't the bog standard i4 (not the i4 M50) not try to be as efficient as possible?
@@ndc5544p The car is inefficient here because of a mixture of too much weight, shitty tire setup and bad conditions. It's neither the hardware nor the software. The i4 has some of the most efficient electric motors on the market, actually more advanced than the stuff you get from Audi and Mercedes who just buy their drive units from suppliers. People need to realise that differences in efficiency of EVs are mainly down to physics and that's also why Tesla is so good at this. They are by far the lightest and the most aerodynamic. That's is the main reason they are winning the efficiency game and not some software or drive train magic. And anybody who thinks that needs to take some physics formulas and calculate EV consumption themselves.
The travel planner of the i4 is not as good as Tesla, not showing percentage at each stop/charger station for example. And by default charging stations are not even positioned on the planned route... even for a 1000kms trip. Should be fixed by software, sure, but in Tesla range anxiety is never an issue as route planning was designed for EV (and SuC) as a complete and consistent solution, whatever the battery size/consumption.
@@friendswithwheels3703 "The car is inefficient here because of a mixture of too much weight, shitty tire setup and bad conditions. It's neither the hardware nor the software. " Weight is 'hardware'. Multiple thermal management loops? Hardware. ICEV architecture? Yep. Etc....
Thanks for another great update video all the info everyone needs! Seen review in uk of this car as they said it has 105 kWh battery! Is there a option for the big battery in Norway or is there that much non usable?
BMW i4 M50 weight 5018 lbs and Tesla model 3 performance weight 4250 lbs. This is the reason that i4 is thirsty. Germany car is alway heavy and this is because the heavy medals they use and also the sound insulation for a luxury car. I have a Audi E-Tron and the door is as heavy as a armor tank. It’s weight 5754 lbs.
I think it doesen't break hard when somebody is behind you. The program is meant to stop the car safetly and as fast as possible if the wheel isn't touched after awhile.
@@bjornnyland Is there not? I thought it had sensors behind it. But it doesen't matter because it is the responsibilty of the driver behind you to keep his distance for emergency breaking. An autonomous programm must bring the car to a quick stop if it believes the driver is not able to take over the wheel. There lies the problem. There is no right answer because in most countries there is still no legal basis on how assist systems should behave since ultimately the driver is still reponsible for the car.
Well, @Bjørn nyland … I’m actually underwhelmed by this car. I was really looking forward to your test of the i4, because I always liked BMW a lot, I’m still driving an ICE 330 d xDrive Touring after 5 BMW in a row…also had an i3 for 3 years. Choosing the right car is simple at the end: Buy the best car, the benchmark in its class. In the league of sporty compact (ICE-) sedans that’s been the 3 series for decades. Superb handling, compact fun-to-drive, creamy in-line-sixes…it checked all the boxes, it defined this category and for that „premium“ I was willing to pay that extra premium in price, no problem. But nowadays? Ok, it obviously still has a very well planted „Autobahn- approved“ road handling it’s well sound-insulated and the interior is well build, ok, that’s great. But what else?! Actually, when I took a look at the ICE-version of the i4 at my local BMW dealership, I found the interior to be nice but also not overwhelmingly better than that of a Hyundai IONIQ 5 with the Uniqe-Package for example or a Model 3, to be honest. To let it really stand out you have to buy „Individual-Leather“ etc. otherwise its just as plasticy as the other brands (for me that never was a problem, I bought a BMW for other reasons, it didn’t had to be an Aston Martin inside…). And when you tick that boxes, buy leather dashboard etc. than you get close to Taycan-price-territory… For me the i4 is just not premium anymore, thus I’m not willing to pay that premium either: Apart from the good suspension its mediocre: Its incredibly fat with 2400 kg and a car with Adipositas will never give you that darty ultimate-driving-machine feel, because its just not that. It even cannot beat a 60 kw- Standard- Model 3 on range, come on. So, ok, when you are not the best in efficiency, are you at least the best in charging? Hmmm…no: Compared to the 800V-league its second class technology. Sorry, BMW, at the end its just an overpriced, cramped, bad compromise. It’s not da defining it’s category anymore, sad. Just not worth all that money.
@@manuelteixeira2311 Just checked the price in Portugal and that is for the base model BMW, if you add glass roof, bigger wheels and tires 21 inch - BMW comes with 18 Inch wheels, and none of the other feature the M3P comes standard. Seems in Portugal you can't add many features, like you can in the US.
still... 400kg speaks loudly how much better Tesla's packaging abilities are, bc. high strength steel doesn't add too much weight compared to part-aluminum bodies (not 200kg at least), and soundproofing shouldn't account for more than 50-70kg over Tesla's, if at all. I think you can count 100kg for some "more" of equipment, and okay let's make it 50kg for better sound proofing and another 50 kg heavier body - leaves 200 kg unexcused extra weight ;)
@@i-dinen-lug well come one the aswer to that is pretty clear....the i4 is a shared plattform car with the combustion 4series, thus it has a "flexible" plattform and not a dedicated one, so the fact that it is heavier should suprise no one, they don't employ wizzards at BMW. One the other side, yeah you also should not pretend that this is a good think either...The heavier weight is a disadvantage.
@@tzarcoal1018 The problem I see is that it's much too heavy, heavier than a model S that has a 100kwh battery and is a bigger car. I will wait until they bring out a dedicated ev platform.
You should also include sound quality in your tests. eg 1-10 and compare the cars in between (eksample BMW i4 M50 vs Polestar 2.) Because it's also interesting to know that PS: How much does it cost extra for the "blinker package"?? ;)
13:15 Hej Bjørn !! It’s actually not gonna break hard if there someone behind you :) it’s just a thing to wake you up if you are sleeping its actually really cleaver
@@bjornnyland I tested it myself …hmm, maybe it uses the backup sensors or the camera somehow? I live in Germany maybe they enabled it in the German market I’m not sure 🤔
Wouldn’t trade in my Model 3 LR for an i4 right now, but if I’d have to buy a new car right now it would be a tough choice. Not sure if the i4’s price premium is worth it though.
All Teslas had 18 wheel size and BMW i4 m50 had 19 size. So this makes a diference and impactes the bmw range in a negative way. Not fair comparison. I gess if the BMW had 18 wheels the range would be about the same as the equivalent model 3 preformence that had the 18 wheels in his test. The diference in range was only 50 km, what could be explained by the diference in wheel size.
Hi Bjorn, Interested in this BMW, would welcome your estimate of expected summer range for the I4 M50 in dry with summer tyres based on your winter test today?
Very good video. BMW finally in the game. I'd choose this over any Tesla. This is at least proper car for the money not some half baked quality issued Tesla.
@@bjornnyland Bjorn. What do you think about BMW using old technology motors? Tesla makes motors rated for 1 million miles, BMW is using brushed motors, not even washing machines have brushed motors anymore. Buyers will have to let their I4 motors service every 100k KM with new brushes. Insane if you ask me.
"we have Harman Kardon speakers". I'm pretty sure they're only Harman Kardon labeled speakers. That's unfortunately how the industry (speakers, cameras, etc) is.
I still wonder: Why isn't the loss included in consumption? Shouldn't you get the claimed net capacity if you multiply consumption with the range? I'd see losses as part of the consumption🤔
Is it true that they upgrade their press cars with better soundproofing, less noisy wheels, quality control? Seems like a lot of car conpanies do this?
