BMW N62 Engine - Valve Guide Seals causing smoking? Fix in 30 minutes!

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If you have the BMW N62 engine in your car - 645i, 650i, 745i or 750i and you are getting problems with blue smoke from the exhaust you have probably been told you need to replace the valve guide seals - and it's going to cost you a lot of money!
But 50% - 60% of the causes of smoke is not the valve stem seals - it's the famous PCV valves (called all sorts of names such as CCV, Check-Valve, OSV and a number of other incorrect names). No, these fella's are PCV's, Pressure Control Valves - and they get stuck, tear and get blocked up - and then your car is going to smoke - badly.
More details of crankcase ventilation problems: www.meeknet.co...
Replacement parts: amzn.to/2Mm9kPk
This is no surprise to BMW owners that have the M60/M62/M62TUB engines - we are quite used to PCV valves causing smoke - and we've been swapping them out for years. But mention smoke and the N62 and everyone shouts stem seals!
To test crankcase Vacuum use this: amzn.to/2Mjf78x
Genaral Purpose Grease: amzn.to/2MnBkC4
This video shows how to stop your N62 smoking in 30 minutes and around £30 - go on, you know you want to.....
#BMWN62 #ValveStemSeals #EngineSmoking

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@logangsq1480 5 лет назад

Wow finally someone with a real and accurate explanation of a N62 PCV system, very well done man and consider me happily subscribed!!

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 5 лет назад

Thank you!

@vassarcokley7857 3 года назад

How and where can I order that stuff call Forte from and how much is it

@NightwishArena 2 месяца назад

This type of videos should come with the car when you buy it. But I think all they want these days is your money, and that you buy a new car as fast as possible. You need to bring your car to BMW (or whatever) service, and then they change parts. But that is short sighted. BMW, Audi, VW have all very bad reputation these days, and I believe less and less people are loyal to one brand for decades. Cars are getting almost impossible to service, even basic things like DPF change is way too hard on some cars. And those idiotic timing chain locations.

@keithninobrown 5 лет назад

i would like to thank u soooo much, i took it to a dealer and he told me $4000 to stop it from smoking. I saw this video and did what you said and NO MORE SMOKE...THANK YOU

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 5 лет назад

It really is my pleasure - and glad to hear it worked out for you. I am worried that this problem is turning into the 'Nikasil' scare of the M60 BMW V8 where the first sign of smoke would scare the owner into selling or scrapping. Just like the valve guide problem there were so few real cases of bore-wear and lots of cases of PCV failure.

@j.kisart6100 4 года назад

Hey how long did it take your car to stop smoking after the change?

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Around 100 miles or so

@j.kisart6100 4 года назад

Timm's BMW Repairs and Information I have a 2012 750 with the N63 and I can’t find the ccv orange colored valves at all

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

@@j.kisart6100 Very different system on the N63 engine - the system can be found here: www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=KA83-USA-02-2011-F01-BMW-750i&diagId=11_4171

@philipgorin6676 4 года назад

I changed the 2 CCV valves and breather hoses on my bmw 745i e65 with 167k miles on, and now finally car stop blue smoking and the engine is like reborn: have much more power like was a new car. Thanks from Russia!

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Thanks for letting us know - we always like to have feedback as it helps to work out just how many cars have stem seal problems and those that are simply PCV problems!

@ruskito2003 3 года назад

Wow, what an informative video. If I only I knew this info 5 years ago I could have fixed my 645ci. The main dealer told me it needed valve seals and quoted me a silly amount of money to do it. I decided to just buy a new car but I never got round to selling the 645 which has sat on my drive untouched ever since. after 5 years without so much as putting the key in the ignition it probably has far more problems now.

@andreasvoss4931 4 года назад

You are doing a great job with your videos. I have a 645ci and both of your BMW's are so clean and spotless under the hood I spend hours on mine....and I didn't care about something like this since my 20s......I am 51 now...keep up the good work...👍

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Thanks, that's very kind of you!

@champspec 3 года назад

Those diaphragms tear very easily. Especially aftermarket rubber valves. I’ve had 3 550i’s with n62 engine. Never replaced the valve stem seals and I fixed the smoking issue in all of them. A trick to keep the oil out of the engine is to add a 1-3mm rubber disk on the top of the flapper valve. Make sure the disk is smaller than the inner circle of the rubber flapper. And make sure the rubber is clean and seals on the edge. This will keep it from opening so easily to keep the oil out. Also make sure the pinhole on the plastic cover is not blocked off.

@knightrider3766 2 года назад

where can I buy this disk?

@senioradministrator6510 4 года назад

You are a champion and are one of the most articulate 650i mechanical experts on the web. I’m inspired! Well done and thank you for your service to the BMW community :-)

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

That's very kind of you - Thanks!

@rayrivera3221 4 года назад

I came across your channel, I have to say you have the most correct and actually explain the repairs well, Thank you Sir !!!! I will be watching, as a new 750Li owner and avid DYIer I appreciate your videos

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Thanks and welcome, hope it treats you well!

@michaellauts4036 4 года назад

Many thanks for your easy to follow instructions. This is the first time I had a look myself at the PCV valve. Both of them are broken. Can't wait to see the difference. Many thanks for your help.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Glad I could help - and give it a good 100 miles or so to clear out!

@abcfisher1 4 года назад

Excellent video. I enjoyed it. Beautiful engine bay as well. I have a 2008 550i and I have replaced the PCV valves also. I do have a little smoke after long idles but here in the US I have found a product called AT-205 reseal which helps alot with worn seals to rejuvenate the rubber on the valve stem seals. I didn't realize that you can wash and clean the PCV system periodically so I will do that from now on. I got the car at 100k miles. No smoke. Started changing the oil less frequently and started smoking. I love this motor and the torque it produces. I am a subscriber. Thank you!

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Thanks!

@haldoglife 5 лет назад

Sold my E60 550 because it was smoking like this. Loved that car, now I know.

@forzaferrari9912 4 года назад

Did that today. The diagnosis in my case is harsh... But this was super useful video anyway.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

It was kind of you to post after your bad luck - certainly shows some backbone - thanks!

@cigar-man6991 3 года назад

Was a little hesitant on getting e63 coming from an n54 335i. But this video makes made me feel better about the v8. Makes the v8 look like a Toyota engine compared to the n54. 💤🛌

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 3 года назад

Thanks!

@accuracychannel.7242 3 года назад

Thanks a million. will try it out.. Mine done 187000km and just started smoking.. And as it goes, BMW says change the stem valve seals.

@arjunmahendran1704 7 месяцев назад

Attempted this myself over the last couple of days. The crankcase breather was so brittle it broke when I tried to take it off! Unfortunately any of the non OEM versions were going to take far too long to arrive so I had to go to the main dealer and pay BMW prices :(. New part fitted now though with new pcv valves on as well. Now just to sort the total oil loss….

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 6 месяцев назад

Well done for giving the job a go!

@alanw5812 2 года назад

I don't know who design the new models, the PCV are part with the rocker cover,but on some look the same can just replace the round seal on top.

@BLAZENYCBLACKOPS 4 года назад

I’m so glad I found this video, my 2008 BMW 550i started smoking a few months back and I’m super concerned that it’s the valve stem seals, I’ll definitely give this a shot first before hand and see what happens, absolutely worth it considering that the PCV’s have more than likely never been replaced, thanks a million.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

My pleasure! It works on at least half of the smokers!

@douglasdorman9322 4 года назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation MINE REPLACED, DROVE, ECT, STILL SMOKES, VALVE STEM SEALS BAD, FUCK IT, GOT MANY ISSUES WTH MY SUPER CLEAN MSPORT550I, NOW MY TRANSFER COOLANT PIPE SEAL IS GONE, LEAKING SLOW COOLANT, WHICH IS GOOD,BUT, THATS A 24HR JOB, AND A PINION SEAL IN THE REAR END, CALLS FOR 9.0 RR!!!!! WONT PASS SMOG,, GONNA DRIVE IT DAILY AS USUAL KEEP WATER AND COOLANT IN, TURN UP THE KICK ASS STEREO, AND IGNORE THE NOISE... LOL... FUCK IT, PROBABLY 6,000 DOLLARS , SHIT MORE, TO FIX THIS BEAUTIFUL CAR THAT I LOVE.. MAN THE INTERIOR IS SO SWEET, HANDLING, ALL THE ELECTRICS ARE PERFECT, EVERYTHING BUT, THE TEARS OF A CLOWN, STORY, REALISTICALLY, MORE LIKE 7 GRAND TO FIX THIS SHIT, THAT COOLANT PIPE IS THE DUMBEST ASS THING I HAVE EVER SEEN, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE WHOLE FUCKING ENGINE APART TO FIX IT, AN O RING.... AND A 200 DOLLAR PIPE... THAT JOB CALLS AGAIN FOR 24 PLUS HRS!!! LOVE THE BMW... GOT 165 ON IT MILEAGE, SO ITS DONE ITS JOB I GUESS...

@brenglover72 3 года назад

In the UK you can get valve stem seals replaced for £1k nowadays. I had them replaced on my e60. I asked for the old ones back - they were little better than useless - rock hard and the holes for the valve stem were considerably enlarged

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 3 года назад

Thanks Brendan, yes, a few places are popping up that do it sub 1k - hopefully I will never need them!

@user-es3nx4ic6f 4 года назад

Extremely well done mate! Thanks for posting!

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Thanks!

@johns818 2 года назад

FYI the flex tube ALWAYS has cracks in it, and if for some reason it doesn't.. it will once you start moving it around. If you're in a hot climate like California you need to 100% replace that flex tube.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 2 года назад

Thanks James!

@michaelbitner9910 Год назад

Very well done - going out to the garage to get it done on my '07 650i convertible right now. Thanks, Timm!

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Год назад

You can do it!

@justdrive9151 5 лет назад

Just found your channel! Keep up the good work. Very clear video, love to see more

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 5 лет назад

Thanks!

@TrevorS38 4 года назад

E34 M5 owner looking for a fun daily driver while the M5 goes under the knife. Started looking into E63s and got here. Great video! I also like the Style 21s as the channel icon!

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Yes, E63's and E64's are great fun - and by the way, the E64 accelerates quicker - it has a shorter diff!

@richardhoff5255 4 года назад

Very nice video. I don't own an 850 but I still found this soothing to watch.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Thanks!

@LS-uv5jf 2 года назад

Excellent, easy to understand narration and video! Very knowledgeable too of N62

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 2 года назад

Much appreciated!

@andrewthompsonuk1 5 лет назад

The N62 would be a good motor if the oil was changed twice as often as BMW want.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 5 лет назад

I agree with that - and use decent oil!

@lavazza8031 3 года назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation castrol titanium ou mobil 1

@lavazza8031 3 года назад

il est très bon quand même en europe

@damonlloyd74 Год назад

I just changed them out. Found them both to be torn. The one on the front had a ton of oil in it, but the other one was clean. Problem is, my car is smoking now where before it wasn’t.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Год назад

Don't panic just yet, what is probably happening is that there is oil in the labyrinth (in the valve covers) that is being drawn out and the smoking will clear when that oil is dragged out.

@damonlloyd74 Год назад

Crossing my fingers! Thanks for the informative videos btw!! Cheers.

@alextorkelson Год назад

@@damonlloyd74 Have any luck at all? With the smoke going away

@damonlloyd74 Год назад

It did do it for a bit here and there, but I added a product to thicken up my oil and I haven’t had any issues as of late.

@alextorkelson Год назад

@@damonlloyd74 Oh brilliant! Never would've imagined. Heard that there's an oil additive one can add to semi-restore old seals too.

@truckatadders 4 года назад

As an ex BMW dealer tech, I've changed a number of the OSV diaphragms on the rear of the inlet manifold on M60/62 engines, usually for poor idle quality though 👌

@bu5761 4 года назад

Are OSV diaphragms different than the valve cover pcv valves? I'm trying to diagnose this smoke situation 😑 I've been watching mine blow smoke at red lights for a year and I'm about to get into the repair. Shits embarrassing. And mines a convertible so I just want to slouch down onto the floor if I have to stop for a long light. The longer it sits idle, the more smoke it produces on take off. My buddy said it's the 'rings' and reading through these comments, sounds like it could also be valve stem seals? Same thing, or? I just blew up the ccc (nav screen) apparently as well from jumping it. What a pain. Checked the fuses and can't find any blown (trunk and glove box). Bout to take out the dash panels and ccc to see if there's a fuse on the back of it or something, last resort before just replacing it. Radio still works but the screen never lights up anymore, weird. I tried to reset it, pushing the volume control and both eject buttons.. nothin.

@davidrichardson6528 Год назад

Hey Darren I currently have the m62tu and can't seem to keep it from dying as soon as I start it up. When I unplug the MAF sensor it idles but very poorly but when I plug it back it in it does and even after replacing it still the same problem

@truckatadders Год назад

@davidrichardson6528 one way to check is once the car's running, if you remove the oil filler cap, the car should start running with a very poor idle, if it doesn't make any difference then it's a good indication that the osv diaphragm is faulty. One other way to check is if you spray some brake cleaner around the area where the osv is located, if the engine revs flare up as you spray it, it's another good indicator that the osv diaphragm is faulty, which, on an older car they tend to do. Heat makes them hard & brittle & they eventually split.

@truckatadders Год назад

@bu5761 when I was in the trade, we would always look at the cheapest option 1st. Replacing the PCV valves & the OSV diaphragm are a much simpler & cheaper repair than stripping the engine. If it were the rings, it wouldn't just do it when stationary at lights but would also do it when driving down the road.

@joshhamilton2987 3 года назад

Excellent video! Definitely deserve more love on youtube for this amazing content!

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 3 года назад

Thank you so much Josh 🤗

@user-ci4cj5eq4x 4 года назад

this information piece is gold. subscribed to many future videos

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Thanks!

@mikesherwood5497 3 года назад

Great explanation, very helpful and well explained

@honestrunescaper 3 года назад

So glad I found this channel

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 3 года назад

Glad you came here!

@shannehasvlog8039 Год назад

Hi, my BMW Gran Tourer 2L Diesel, suddenly coming white smoke to the exhaust. Please advise me what to do. Kind Regards,

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Год назад

It depends on the weather conditions whether you get white smoke - what's the ambient temperature?

@Level_Up_Nation 2 месяца назад

wonder if an aftermarket oil catch can would fix the issue, and stop the oily air before it gets to them. My 645Ci is blowing white smoke and I hope this is the problem.

@kmlumd44 Год назад

I checked both seals. It aint that on my n62. Also. Over time my oil gets low and my coolant needs refilled. U think i need new head gaskets?

@iomedes5716 Год назад

I do not understand what you did, this "third" PCV valve on the front tubes / connectors, close to air admission, i don't have it on my N62 from BMW 650 E63 2007...i had to change the valve stem seals.. (4000€)

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Год назад

You only get two PCV's - the one on Bank 1 can be either on the valve cover (as yours is) or in a separate housing (like mine is)

@erikstottlemyer3883 10 месяцев назад

Excellent!! Saved me 8400 usd Thank you!

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 10 месяцев назад

Glad it helped!

@carlospasos5432 Год назад

Positive crankcase ventilation valve

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Год назад

Pressure Control Valve www.meeknet.co.uk/e31/BMW_M60_M62_M62TU_Engine_Crankcase_Ventilation.htm

@pauldean5069 2 года назад

Hi tim i have a 2006 650i with just over 60k on the clock it has full stamped history in book bought it five years ago from someone who had it for ten years it was fine at first but after two years it started smoking after idle i changed pcv valves but still have the problem

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 2 года назад

Try cleaning out the valve covers Paul - that made a huge difference on mine.

@pauldean5069 Год назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation hi tim ive just bought some wynns stop smoke im dubious about using this treacle in my car to try stop the puffs of blue smoke after idle have i bought the wrong additive or do you think it could be ok

@fredb711 5 лет назад

Thank you for a detailed and easy to understand explanation of the issue as well as easy to follow procedure. Very well done. Your car is very clean. What year and mileage of you don’t mind me asking? Subscribing to the channel.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 5 лет назад

My pleasure! I'm around 120,000 miles on a 2007 plate - more info here: www.meeknet.co.uk/E64/2007_E64_650i_Sport_Individual.htm

@artbukanan8518 3 года назад

Is it when ur at a complete stop, then accelerate u get the white smoke? Cuz that’s what’s mine dojng

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 3 года назад

The best plan is to always change the PCV valves and then give it 100 miles or so before worrying any further!

@artbukanan8518 3 года назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation thank you so much, will do !

@alvintobe5566 3 года назад

Hay Timm this is Alvin, I have the 2005 645ci, coming up on 50,000 miles. Can you recommend any Preventive maintenance repairs I should be looking into.

@destroyer6867 Год назад

Mine are intact.. need to do the valve seals sadly. Would you recommend me a valve seal brand? Thanks in advance!

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Год назад

My pleasure, and BMW - they have improved them so they don't fail so quickly!

@destroyer6867 Год назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation BMW will be! Thanks!!!

@smell5118 2 года назад

I have an 2013 BMW 750lix drive it was smoking I change my pvc valve myself and no more blue smoke On the left side of the engine it was broken the right one was not broken but full of stuff I paid I little bit more I went with bmw parts full warranty no more blue smoke

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 2 года назад

That's great news, well done!

@MrCastellanos13 4 года назад

Great Video! Changed the valves and still smoking. What did you use to clean the valve cover? You said 5amp flex. Is that just a piece of electrical wire? Should I just shove it in the hole?

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Yes, I used 5A flex - but a bendy, long brush would probably have worked a lot better. Remember to give the car a good 100 miles after doing the work, it takes a while for the oil to work through.

@BLAZENYCBLACKOPS 4 года назад

If the smoking doesn’t stop after a good amount of time you’ll probably have to replace the valve stem seals , and like he said early in this video it’s no cheap job. They sell a kit where you can replace the stem seals yourself but it takes 20 hrs of labor and you’ll obviously need more time than that if you’re not mechanically inclined, but you’ll save a load of money and your engine in the process.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

I agree, as I said, changing the PCV valves fixes a good 50-60% of smoking cases, but failing valve stem seals is a real problem, and an expensive one to fix. But I would always recommend changing the PCV's first as it is so cheap and easy - and don't forget to clear out the piping and valve cover as much as possible. To avoid have having valve stem seal failure change your oil every 10,000 miles and use a decent oil.

@joeruiz784 4 года назад

Timm's BMW Repairs and Information what is that u use to clean in hole don’t want to mess anything up

@dukedub 4 года назад

Nice video. Thank you for taking the time to explain.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Thank you!

@arko2094 Год назад

Could the stem seals be causing blue smoke

@gabrielireyesvergara9539 Год назад

Hi Timm I have a 2006 750li just star smoke is the same engine on the one you work on the video

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Год назад

Well, you know what to do first!

@alextorkelson Год назад

Any updates at all?

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Год назад

@@alextorkelson Update: My 650i is still not smoking after another 3 years...

@carlacordner4210 4 года назад

Absolutely loved that video. Some real good practical info. I even had a light bulb moment. About 6 months ago I changed my Vac hoses and replaced the top front one with a pcv upgraded version. I didn’t however blank off the valve cover CCV. So I now have a CCV on each valve cover and an upgraded pcv, when installed I had to re-adjust my idle with Ista d as it went over 2k rpm. Not long after I noticed 2 error codes 2820 and 2821. These relate to differential servo motor and differential/cam sensor. After checking my crankcase pressure with a manometer it read around 20-28mbar. Could this under pressure in the crankcase cause these faults ? Appreciate the info and any advice on this issue. Thank you.

@NeilKudro 4 года назад

I changed both on my 07 750Li and still had black smoke only when standing in line in the drive-through. dont know what to do next. The oil level is not dropping at least from what I can see. Any advice?

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Next plan would be to clean out the valve covers, either by removing them and cleaning with a solven or using a bottle-brush to get in there from the top.

@NeilKudro 4 года назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation I am running a bottle of Foam actually two each with a full tank I hope this will go away after a while.

@615Esteban Год назад

Where are the locations of the Pcv valve because on mine I can only find one which is on the driver side

@NeilKudro Год назад

@@615Esteban the none turbo V8 has two. Left and right side

@615Esteban Год назад

@@NeilKudro I can’t find one on the left side

@nazihsouliman4689 9 месяцев назад

Is there a simple way to differentiate if the CCV or valve seal are the cause of the smoke?

@alexandermcleanbarclay9266 Год назад

Can you supply a link for the P.C.V valve to get the correct one thanks in advance E63 650CI

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Год назад

Hello Alex, buy it directly from BMW, part number 11127547058 as seen on this diagram: www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=EH72-EUR-03_2003_E63_BMW_645Ci&diagId=11_3258#11127547058

@alvintobe5566 3 года назад

Hi Timm this is Alvin, 1 of your best supporters. I have a question: I have 2005 645ci. Everything is working perfect, thank God. Should I used a value stem seal conditioner, to keep them soft. Before they get hard? I'm asking for Preventive maintenance.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 3 года назад

Hello Alvin - yes, I see your comments on my channel all the time! No need for anything other than 10,000 mile / 1 Year oil changes with Castrol or other name brand fully-synthetic oil - and you will be fine! Good hearing from you.

@alvintobe5566 3 года назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Hay Timm thanks again for all your great videos. I have the 2005 645ci with about 50,000 miles. Is there any Preventive maintenance repairs that I should be doing or looking into.

@advhawk6455 5 месяцев назад

This Yank is subbed. Thank you, Timm.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 месяца назад

My pleasure!

@Drifter077 Год назад

Is this way just for bmw what about Vw golf?? Thanks

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Год назад

All cars have a PCV somewhere!

@huskypup3489 3 года назад

Is there a distinction between continuous smoking vs. smoke coming out after a long period of idle? My 07 X5 4.8i only smokes after idling for 3-4 minutes, then revving the engine; then no more smoke. Before the PCV fix, did your car smoke continuously, or only after a long idle+ high revs like mine?

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 3 года назад

The best way is to always change both PCV's, clean out the pipework and then give it 100 miles - if it keeps smoking it wasn't the PCV's!

@andy545i Год назад

Thx👍my 09/2004 545i has both those PCV rubber valves on the head rather than the external setup. Why is this? Anyway I changed them although the originals looked ok - I still have I bit of smoke when I start the engine but goes away after 30 sec or so - also a bit of rough idle (rpm are rock steady, just rough for some reason)…

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Год назад

Try some Wynn's Stop Leak, if that reduces the oil burn then it is probably Stem Seals, but the Wynn's will help

@andy545i Год назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation thx mate, what about Forte seal conditioner? Got a couple of those laying around in my garage but never used them. I guess I’m worried about additives…what’s a good way to test for definitive smoke prob? Idle for a some minutes and rev up?

@longmoormilitary-railway7620 Год назад

Yes, use the Forte Seal Conditioner, it's good stuff

@youtubersnewsandreactions8091 2 года назад

Great content I have a 08 X5 with the 4.8 N62 will check the PCV vales tomorrow to diagnose the same white smoke issue wish me luck .. Oh and I just Subbed !!

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 2 года назад

Thanks Kamran, good luck!

@gamesantrax2517 11 месяцев назад

Is this n62 b48 engine ? V8 750i 08

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 11 месяцев назад

It's the N62TUB4.8 - the updated version

@haluktutuk 2 года назад

Hi Timm, very useful video. Thanks for sharing. Can you share the link for the rubber adapter extension from the manometer to the engine dipstick please? I couldn't find it anywhere. Probably cannot search with the correct keywords.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 2 года назад

Hello Haluk, I got it with a vacuum gauge like this one: amzn.to/3H1lHJb

@sputnik8407 4 года назад

How many miles did you have there ? How is the motor apart from this ?? , thinking of getting one , either 645 or 650 is there any difference in reliability on them ?? Thank you good video >>>>

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Around 120,000 miles - I would prefer the 650i just because it has more power with the updated N62TUB48 engine

@silent_torseeker7741 4 года назад

I burn oil win no signs of drips to the floor and recently started to squeal like a bad belt could this be it I hope a simple fix

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

It is certainly worth trying before doing anything else - it takes a few minutes and very little cash!

@silent_torseeker7741 4 года назад

Hey guess what the one under the rubber cover was slit half and I would feel air from coming from there thanks to you're video I've solved it just waiting on the replacement part tomorrow again thank you

@mso-nyc6181 3 года назад

David mine is doing the same..burning oil and squeal lime bad belt..what was your fix?

@davidmckean7274 3 года назад

Hello Timm. I love your videos! Very helpful indeed. I have owned a 330ci Convertible and I am now interested in a 2006-2010 650i convertible. Here is my question. When I inspect a potential 650i convertible, if it does smoke, is there a quick way to tell if it is the PCV valves or if it is the dreaded valve stem seals? I of course will follow all of the steps in your "How to buy a good 650i" video/. Thanks so much, David

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 3 года назад

Just don't buy it if it smokes - just not worth the risk!

@davidmckean7274 3 года назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Thanks so much Timm! If it smokes or shifts hard, I will just walk away.

@batservice7725 2 месяца назад

We love You!

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Месяц назад

Love you back!

@gjpope23 5 лет назад

I have a 650i 2008 57 plate and when I start the car up it has blue smoke coming out of the right exhaust and if I push the pedal some comes out and then it goes,.. What should I do? Many thanks

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 5 лет назад

Change the PCV units and clear out the rocker cover on bank 1 to start with - and allow at least 100 miles for the oil to be pulled from the inlet manifold.

@gjpope23 5 лет назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation thank you very much

@gjpope23 5 лет назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation the smoke actually happens when the car is left at iddle for about 5 mins and when I press the accelerator it blows smoke. Do you think changing the pcv will help or do I need to change the stem.valves? Thanks

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 5 лет назад

@@gjpope23 Only one way to find out - go, on, you know you want to change those PCV's.....

@gjpope23 5 лет назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation ok thanks.. would topping the oil up and seeing how much I lose help give me an answer?

@glennmoyers4956 3 года назад

PCV valve is an easy fix if that truly would be the problem with my BMW smoking - mine requires replacement valve stem seals.... got an easy fix for that?

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 3 года назад

Yes, price for valve-stem seals is dropping all the time, around £800 in the UK now, not the end of the world!

@richarddal470 4 года назад

to the amount of km you have to check or replace them

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Do it any time - they are never too new to fail!

@rickeyreed4626 Год назад

Thank you kind sir.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Год назад

My pleasure!

@lecorriekenerson7635 4 года назад

Hi Tim! Great Video! I have a 2007 BMW 650i. Im having trouble with the vanos system. Rough start and idle poor acceleration and misfires. Should i replace the entire vanos system or just clean the solenoids? BMW quoted me a price $4000 to repair it! Please help. No info anywhere that helps me!. Thanks in advance!

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Hello Cory, your best bet is get onto either Bimmerforums.com or .co.uk in the 6-Series sections - it is a much better place to go into some depth. But first, get INPA and have a look at the error codes - very cheap these days and saves a lot of guessing: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CBfyCItOJH0.html

@jayobama9582 4 года назад

Thanks very much for the information. Great demonstration. My E63 650 has the SMG gearbox. Is the dipstick that you pulled out on the driver's side to measure vacuum for the engine oil? My dipstick states AT4 on the bottom so thought it was for the SMG manual gear oil?

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Yes, the disptick I removed is for engine oil - I can't see it would be any different on an SMG-equipped car, but you never know!

@jayobama9582 4 года назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation I checked it again and it says AT4 on the dipstick end no ATF4 - my mistake. It does instead smell like engine oil too. Thanks

@timzadoynov6203 4 года назад

Hey Tim, I have a question. I got a 2012 650i. The car produces a lot of white smoke from the exhaust when it’s cold. After warming up it usually does not smoke. I had mechanics come check out the car and I was told it’s the valve steam seals. What would you say the cause of that? Also where is the PCV orange cap located? And should I buy new once or just clean them up. Thank you!

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

No orange bits on your engine! Completely different crankcase ventilation system. If it is cold where you are expect a lot of steam like this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2nuFgLb6IKc.html

@timzadoynov6203 4 года назад

I ran the car today and after parking it I let it sit on idle. It smoked but not crazy hard. Than I stepped on the gas in parking gear, it shot a smoke cloud than went back to light smoke of idle. Also I noticed little bit of blue smoke when I stepped on the gas. What do you suggest?

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

@@timzadoynov6203 The N63 engine can be a bit smoky, high oil consumption is quite expected - and BMW's 'fix' was to enlarge the oil-pan to hold more oil! However, because the turbo's in the 'V' of the engine produce a lot of heat they can affect the valve guides - but, if you don't need to top-up the oil between the 10,000 mile service intervals everything is normal.

@timzadoynov6203 4 года назад

Okay, because I warmed up the car today really well. When it was sitting in idle it was just having little white smoke. But every time I stepped on the gas pedal I saw good amount of blue smoke coming out. It smelled also, Than went back to little bit of white smoke. I was thinking it could be the turbos or the pcv. Or that’s normal for a n63 to shoot blue smoke when stepping on the gas in idle?

@theil6 4 года назад

I just replaced mine, How many miles are on your Car Tim....??????????

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

My pleasure! I'm around 120,000 miles on a 2007 plate - more info here: www.meeknet.co.uk/E64/2007_E64_650i_Sport_Individual.htm

@theil6 4 года назад

Timm's BMW Repairs and Information , unfortunately it did not remedy my smoking. I will have to do the Valve Guide seals. But this car has been taken care of all its life and is in excellent condition inside and out. I think it’s worth the cost about $3000.00 USD

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

@@theil6 Sorry to hear that, but have a go at clearing bank 1's valve cover before spending too much

@marcusmerriett8392 4 года назад

I have a 2006 650I and I'm getting a Increased Emissions warning with the Check Engine light illuminated. By any chance do you know what could cause this? I've made this repair thinking this was the issue. Could you help please?

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

You need INPA: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CBfyCItOJH0.html Increased Emissions usually means a failing cat as measured by the downstream Lambda sensor - but INPA will give you more information

@HomeAmongTheWise 2 года назад

Hey Tim I have a 2004 Bmw 645ci and all the buttons on the A/C stopped working and it just blows hot air. Any ideas? Thank you so much for your time and help

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 2 года назад

Stick the problem on Bimmerforums.co.uk and I'll have a think!

@HomeAmongTheWise 2 года назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Hey Tim thank you for your reply, I found the problem; the ac belt is gone lol. Thank you for your time=)

@AdamA63 2 года назад

Hi Tim, this channel is great. I was rapidly burning oil and smoking away at the lights. I checked the PCVs and all ok but I changed them anyway. I then added eight tubes of Forte seal conditioner into the engine and the oil burning has massively reduced. Pretty much back to normal now. However, I am still smoking when stopped at the lights. Any ideas? I have a 4.8i V8 N62 engine. After about twenty mins of driving the smoking is not as bad but still present.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 2 года назад

There is no doubt that the stem seals DO fail, all dependant on past servicing - but doing the things you are doing will minimise the problem to somewhere that can be lived with!

@AdamA63 2 года назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation I think it is water vapour - loads of it. I checked the exhaust inside and could see loads of water droplets. Once the droplets are no longer visible then there are zero visible emissions. I am shocked by how much water vapour has to come out of the 4.8i V8 at this time of year.

@alextorkelson Год назад

Any updates at all? Curious how things turned out.

@redmaxxnews2414 4 года назад

How'd you clean the valve cover with 5amp Flex??? I want to try it but not sure what was happening there. Please and thanks!

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

A long bottle-brush (the ones with the twisted wire core) would do a much better job - I'll give that a go next time! The valve covers have the oil-separator cyclone devices built into them - if they get covered in much they don't work and oil gets past them - hence the need to clean them out.

@MegaNewman2011 4 года назад

Hi Tim, having trouble with my 05 x5 4.4 n62 with hesitation on light acceleration and very small amount of smoke on start up, possible ccv and have you any knowledge on the ivm on these motors or integrated supply module all my symptoms are leading me to this module, thanks in advance

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Always best to start here with these kinds of problems: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CBfyCItOJH0.html

@pascalgranjeon803 4 года назад

Hi Tim . I have X5 E70 4.8 2008 and he smoke by both exaust when the engine is hot and when I m in a traffic , also the engine smell oil burning ! What do you think ? Thank you for your return

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Do the PCV's, leave it for 100 miles or so - and then follow this advice:ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Uzc9vQGuNnk.html

@pascalgranjeon803 4 года назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Okay Tim , I will do . Thank you for your time . I will let you know ..

@bigcatchsweetnsour6154 3 года назад

I've changed both PVC valves on mines and it's still blowing white smoke when idling for about 5 minutes. Could it be the valve stem seals?

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 3 года назад

Give it a 100 miles or so - and clean out the valve covers. If that doesn't work then valve stem seals would be likely.

@alextorkelson Год назад

Any updates at all?

@davonteelse7163 3 года назад

Hey Tim I have a 2006 n62 engine when it idles I have whitish bluish smoke out the exhaust should I change the pcv valve first or would it be the steam seals

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 3 года назад

Yes, cheap and easy to do - then give it 100 miles or so to clear.

@BoredAtWork2000 4 года назад

What pressure would you see if you had done that test prior to the PCV replacement? Curious if you can determine if it’s the PCV or valve seals.

@mikesherwood5497 3 года назад

Tim how many tubes of Forte Seal Conditioner are needed you think? They are 125ml each i think

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 3 года назад

I would go for 3 for the 650i

@mikesherwood5497 3 года назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation same for 550i ???

@briancooper2190 4 года назад

Looking at buying a 645ci with around 60 thousand miles. Any other common problems with this model?

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Pre-2006 models had a lot of problems with the electronics (although not as bad as E65) - but as usual, watch out for smoking, although the PCV fixes a good proportion the valve guides are still a real problem.

@loveforever3593 4 года назад

Hi Tim on my 2004 bmw 645ci I have white smoke coming out only from the left exhaust pipe when I'm idling so u think it could be the PCV? Thanks

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

As the PCV's are so cheap to replace go ahead and do them - if you still have smoke 100 miles later then it's something else.

@fatboyslim7955 5 лет назад

I have a 2002 x5 4.4i and its smoking too but i was told its a multitude of problems valeves ect. You reckon its this?

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 5 лет назад

You don't have the N62 engine - you have an M62TUB44 - have a read of this: www.meeknet.co.uk/E32/PCV/Index.htm

@jonathancost4927 4 года назад

Hi Timm, the N62 engine in my 2003 E66 745Li recently started emitting blue smoke but only after it's been idling for several minutes when warm, for example in a traffic jam. Once I drive off there's a fair cloud of blue smoke but then it's gone as soon as it came. I saw your video so looked on RealOEM to find out where my PCVs are but it doesn't have any, the only thing it has are a couple of "vent pipes". Obviously I've been told that it's the valve stem oil seals that are at fault but given the symptoms I'm not too sure that's correct. Is it correct that mine doesn't have PCVs?

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

You still have PCV valves - from the drawings on RealOEM they are part 13: www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=GN63-USA-05-2003-E66-BMW-745Li&diagId=11_3258 On some world regions BMW did not move the PCV's from the valve covers to a separate housing - I guess yours is one of them. I replace the PCV on the valve covers in my video - so watch it all the way through!

@jonathancost4927 4 года назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation Got them, thanks for that link, have crosschecked the cylinder head diagram for my car and they're in the same location as that, I'll check them this afternoon.

@jonathancost4927 4 года назад

Well Timm, unfortunately the PCVs weren't the cause of my smoke, I took them out this afternoon and all looked good and reasonable clean. There was a little very old gunk coating the spring but nothing more than that. I cleaned them and also removed those vent pipes at the front of the block and cleaned them out too. Glad I checked the valves out though, thanks for your help.

@heggcy1519 4 года назад

I have a 04 545i could a failing vanos cause the car to smoke? I have no check engine lights. Slightly rough idle

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

No, Vanos problems do not cause smoke - try changing the PCV's....

@heggcy1519 4 года назад

Timm's BMW Repairs and Information the car seemed too start smoking right a few days after changing them. The car had a ripped one but smokes worse after replacing the two.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

@@heggcy1519 Give it at least 100 miles - and also clear out the valve covers as described in the video

@nigel7880 3 года назад

Timm, At about what mileage is it typical for these issues to begin?

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 3 года назад

It more depends on the service intervals as discussed here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Uzc9vQGuNnk.html

@herold30 4 года назад

Nice Vid.... Thx... For your great Job.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Thanks!

@cooksey187 4 года назад

Does it also cause it to burn oil..

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Yes, it does!

@rudysanchez3923 2 года назад

What if it only has one on driver's side every video I've seen has 2.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 2 года назад

Have a watch of the video Rudy, there's one on the valve cover and one in its own housing.

@markussetal1049 4 года назад

Hey Tim took my plugs out on my 08 550i plugs got oil over them what do u think cause that problem

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

If the oil was on the outside of the plugs (around the insulator) then your valve cover gaskets need replacing - and it is worth checking the PCV valves (see my channel) as you may have pressure in the crankcase that is pushing the oil out

@markussetal1049 4 года назад

Oil was on the bottom and the top of the plugs on the right side.The plugs was dripping oil Thanks for replying I appreciate your help

@igorkonovalchuk2186 4 года назад

Have you had to get your valve stem seals changed?

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

No, and at 120,000 miles now.....

@blessedAfrikan217 4 года назад

These cars just smoke period after a certain amount of miles. No rips on my on my valves an car still smoke after idling

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

Everything fails in the end - it really is a case of regular servicing with high-quality oil and keeping on top of the filter changes. I'm well over 120,000 miles now and all is good.

@moneyxbags123 3 года назад

Just Brought a 2008 550i (3500$) thats smoking hoping its just these flimsy vents

@AJrapstar 2 года назад

Wow

@jackmehoff1840 3 года назад

I still cant get my head around car parts subjected to heat made of plastic

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 3 года назад

It wasn't a great idea Jack!

@anthonyk 4 года назад

Should I be scared away from the n62 and buy something else

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 4 года назад

No, I'm at 120,000 miles or so with no problems - look for regular oil changes and don't be put off by big miles - those ones seem to be less likely to fail.

@anthonyk 4 года назад

@@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation alright thanks, was looking at a 745i and it had 180,000 miles on it

@Chris-rs3dj 3 года назад

Unfortunately it usually is the VSS.

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 3 года назад

I have to disagree - of the cases I have been involved with over 60% of oil burn has been the crankcase ventilation system.

@pauldean5069 2 года назад

And it still smokes when warm have i bought a lemon 57 k on clock full history does eat some oil if i sit on idle or tickover when warm for ten minutes i get smoke i also get steam when cold hope i havent bought a shed i know i can carry on running it when it smokes my car is low mileage looked after according to history changed pcv valves on valve covers not tried anything else guy i bought it off has since bought a 996 porsche i prefer 650 have i bought a burner if i have ill have to soak up the repair costs or the blue smoke embarrasment engine ticks over fine drives fine etc just smokes on idle id hate to get rid of the old girl ive just had to put to bed my e53 3.0d shes got timing chain slap due to overdue oil changes but also has 4wd warning light after getting cv jojnts changed also she had diffs fitted from older 5speed model id hate for 650 to be an old cronker as well

@TimmsBMWRepairsandInformation 2 года назад

Have a watch of this Paul - seal conditioners really work! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Uzc9vQGuNnk.html