BMW R1300GS In Depth - Honest First Ride Review

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Well it's somewhat overdue this folks so apologies for my tardiness. As a self proclaimed BMW R1200 and R1250 fan boy here's my first take on the new for 2024 BMW R1300GS. Hope you enjoy my review!
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@jamesonpace726 8 месяцев назад

Don't understand why folks think more complex electros are good, especially on a bike. Guess I'm just olde fashioned, or old anyway....

@Jonathan-L 8 месяцев назад

Spark plugs, lights & horn are all I need :)

@Jonathan-L 8 месяцев назад

@@Banditmanuk My first motorcycle was an 'adventure' bike, which was 49 years ago ... A Honda Z50A. It even ran without a battery, although the horn would stutter (rectified DC power) and change pitch according to the engine speed, and the lights would go dim when the engine idled, but I never rode it in the dark anyway. Why did I call it an adventure bike you may ask? ... My definition of adventure as a kid was simply going somewhere different each time I went for a ride :)

@Jonathan-L 8 месяцев назад

@@FFVoyager Yes, it can be a bit of a gamble. There's virtually no new bike that doesn't have some form of 'smarts' in the system (starting with EFI). As for long term parts availablity ... I fear that in time a lot of bikes will just end up getting scrapped. Having said that, I wonder what happened to my old TZ250 that I raced back in the 80s.

@Banditmanuk 8 месяцев назад

@@Jonathan-L Stuff like central locking on the panniers is a great example of stuff I can live without and tech I would be concerned about failing when out on tour. I'll no doubt be labeled a dinosaur.....

@oldfella4096 8 месяцев назад

Absolutely less is more, a good strong engine, good brakes and good handling, speedo and rev counter at a sensible on the road price and you don't have to save up all year to pay the service department is all I ask for.... If manufacturers keep going like this they will be adding two more wheels and calling it a car😮

@spetersonmusic 8 месяцев назад

I am one of the minority, I prefer the looks of this version to the massive looks and feel of prior generations. For me, headlights always come down to function over fashion; how do they illuminate at night matters far more to me than any style points. I deeply appreciate the everyman reviews like this moreso than the "watch me interview the designer on the launch team" any day and that's on of the hallmark's of Andy's reviews. Quality information over quantity all day long.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Wow thank you

@simulacrae 8 месяцев назад

Most people will prefer the looks, there's just a very loud minority that will find any venue to whine about how it looks. I love the new looks and the only issue I have is that BMW seems to not want to take this looks over to smaller bikes. The new 900GS looks almost exactly like a Honda.

@martyn_g 8 месяцев назад

@@simulacraeI’d suggest the 900 looks more like a Tenere 700 to me!

@martyn_g 8 месяцев назад

Headlight- you’re totally correct on that one. I have a 1250GSA - I actually think it looks awkward, especially the headlight, but I focus on the way it rides - it’s the best bike I’ve ever owned. And the headlight looks really awkward, lol

@Cartsp70 8 месяцев назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer I totally agree with the fact that nobody should be even remotely interested in what’s on their phone 📱 Just ride the bike, enjoy it , take it all in. Leave your phone in your pocket and live a little! Great review btw 👍🏾

@nigeloscarmarsden 8 месяцев назад

Love how practical and honest you are. You represent the real man. Thanks again Andy.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

I appreciate that!

@christopherhorton5449 8 месяцев назад

A great review Andy. Undoubtedly the best in the class for completeness. I'm not sold on the looks myself and Its funny that they can put lights in the panniers, but not in the switch gear. Its too expensive for me. A Tiger 900 would do the same job as it has done for you in Japan. I can see a new GS heading for the TMF fleet in the future

@shaundeakin6625 8 месяцев назад

Really useful real world test. Not sure many of us are overly interested in the spec sheets and those that are can easily find them online. Looks may grow over time - the previous asymmetric headlight was so iconic. That blank space is an issue for me though. Fantastic work as always, really looking forward to this series.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@Mikeypee3 8 месяцев назад

I currently ride a lowered 1250GS however nobody in the reviews seems to not cover how this new 1300 lowers itself at a standstill. Any chance you could do a video on this 👍🏼

@auscurrymaster 8 месяцев назад

Check out Nothing to Prove - he's done video on that subject but, yes, agree it needs covering in detail as it could be a key feature which may bring me back to GSs

@rhettbenton 8 месяцев назад

Yes, height factors is an issue for me too. Also, keep track of pettol use in US gallins too! Great job!

@RobertCrawford5017 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for mentioning the frame-lowering feature in Nothing to Prove. I followed all the RU-vid reviews for the new R1300 GS. The frame-lowering feature is critical for me. All BMW needs now is to license Honda's DSC technology. I loved DSC on my Honda Goldwing Tourer.

@philipTOMPSETT 8 месяцев назад

Great vid as always and thanks for covering the luggage. For me it’s a touring bike and luggage is a daily feature. Changing from a tiger with expedition panniers / bags to a gs with vario luggage and bags I was surprised how much less the GS took. It’s unrealistic to take the whole panniers with you when you are far from your hotel as they have no straps / are cumbersome in 35 degree heat. If you can scrounge the bags from bmw I’d love to know their practicality (will they fit a 15” laptop when i’m away for months and want to edit my trip videos etc), do they lose a lot of the naked pannier size as awkward shape and any other real life touring experience. Cheers

@JohnJay1745 8 месяцев назад

Andy said the magic words I have been waiting for a reviewer to say, aside from the looks, this GS is better than the outgoing model in every way. IMO people will get used to the looks and this motorcycle will continue to sell extremely well.

@ticthedog6095 8 месяцев назад

Great review of what is no doubt going to be a best seller. But £23k and you don’t get a independent brake light, you have to ask yourself if the sub 800mm high brake indicator combo is safe why are cars and vans forced to have high level brake lights for safety reasons?

@Cartsp70 8 месяцев назад

Have you actually ridden the bike? I doubt it, try leaving the house and go ride it .. then comment 👍🏾

@ticthedog6095 8 месяцев назад

@@Cartsp70 You sound very angry, did you come home from work last night and find your mrs in bed with your best mate? I’ve ridden a GS1300 today, picked up my mates bike which has been repaired under warranty with a faulty starter solenoid, the weather was pants on the way home but the bike rides brilliantly which I never doubted. I’m still sticking with my opinion on the indicator brake light combo, I mean the top box has central locking, interior light but no independent brake light.

@Cartsp70 8 месяцев назад

@@ticthedog6095 oh well 🤷🏾

@robertfeast7691 8 месяцев назад

Couldn't agree more regarding the looks. Infact, from the front, its just pig ugly. For the type of bike it is, the 1250 had more than enough useful power. From the 1000 through the 1100, 1150, 1200, 1250 now a 1300 what's next 1400, 1500, ridiculous. Maybe they're trying to compete with the Multistrada, which doesn't attract the same buyer. As for all the electronic modes! Does a motorcycle need all that junk?

@peterlivermore2177 8 месяцев назад

That was a great first review Andy, and a good idea to concentrate on real world performance rather than spec sheets. I hope you can try the new Moto Guzzi Stelvio later in the year, it'd be interesting to hear your comparisons whilst you still have the GS.

@oldfella4096 8 месяцев назад

I must be getting old why are manufacturers turning motorcycles in to cars ridiculous new prices even more ridiculous service/running costs ....less is more..... I have ridden through the 70s. 80s 90s a now into 20s the last service my bike I dropped it off on a Wednesday night I got it back Friday lunchtime it takes a long time to shift stuff just to get in to the rocker cover do the checks then put it together and some downloads can take 1/2 a day apparently 😮 then the wallet got emptied ....less is more....

@stephenmundane 8 месяцев назад

Well said.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

I too am getting old and tend to agree - less is indeed more (tell Mrs Flyer that will you!)

@timstimson2134 8 месяцев назад

"This road is hideous", do you not watch Itchy Boots 😂

@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 8 месяцев назад

I don't. I gave up when she began putting up clickbait titles. I find "One Man One Bike" a way better channel.

@static369 8 месяцев назад

The most over engineered panniers lol

@r6ymy 8 месяцев назад

I think the new bike is a huge improvement over the fugly pile of scaffolding that was the old bike. An effective headlight is a huge benefit to me when night riding, and great to see a really effective dip, as many bikes are good on main beam, but naff on dip. I couldn't live with that navigation screen though, both the night brightness and obscuring the view.

@idahorx1 8 месяцев назад

Having ridden 3 bikes with adaptive headlights, I'd never ride without one, at least on my primary machine. Such a huge difference on a twisty mountain road. Should be mandatory equipment on a bike. Much prefer the lighter weight of the new one-it's in the realm of a KTM. And like that they finally got rid of the asymmetric headlights, always made the GSs look lopsided, if easy to recognize.

@kevinbarlow4930 8 месяцев назад

Definitely a marmite bike, personally I think its hideous

@doh444 8 месяцев назад

Re weight - my 1200LC is listed at 238kg; this is 237kg. OK, 12kg lighter than the 1250 but still a bit of a lump!

@IngramCars 8 месяцев назад

Undoubtedly a beautiful bike. I like that you find it hard to fault, compared to the Honda Africa Twin that I recently tried which you were quite critical of. The surprising thing to me when I recently test rode an AT DCT is that found that hard to fault, immediately loving it. Like the GS the AT is a beautifully well engineered machine, but to my eyes the Honda is such a handsome bike and that gives it character. This demonstrates the importance of test riding them, because it's how a bike makes you feel that's important, and that's a personal thing.

@dashuntas.m4045 8 месяцев назад

I think the AT is the best looking Adv Bike out there, the front end is badass and the bike just looks ready to take on anything.

@UncleWally3 8 месяцев назад

I’ve put thousands of kilometers on an RT but only a few hundred on a GS. While I like the GS I bought an Africa Twin DCT and, after a serious bout of buyer’s remorse, grew to love it. For me, after 50+ years on many bikes, the Africa Twin is the best “all rounder” bike that I’ve ever owned.

@chrishall734 8 месяцев назад

Totally agree. Test rode a 1250 gs several times as they’re meant to be the best but every time I haven’t “loved it”. Tried a africa twin and I was sold in 5 minutes. Weird isn’t it?

@IngramCars 8 месяцев назад

@@chrishall734 Agreed. I also agreed with Richy Vida, and so impressed by the AT I just bought a brand new one.

@abudhabidel1 8 месяцев назад

@@UncleWally3 I too have been in the saddle for 50+ years, My Triple Black 1250 GS really the most complete, all round, bike I've ever owned.....but would be even better with DCT. It's a long way from my first ride - also black - a Norman Nippy! Take care.

@68orangecrate26 8 месяцев назад

I think that Willy Messerschmitt would get a laugh from the fact that a Britt is raving about a BMW whilst riding through the English countryside😆. Seems to me that a Rolls Royce powered machine would be more appropriate, considering the outcome of the war. We live in an interesting world 😎.

@marcusgeorge1825 8 месяцев назад

Thanks Andy. I can still remember when manufacturers in the late 80’s / early 90’s claimed about “anti dive” and then the claims disappeared. BMW, have just seemed to be the ones who stuck with it and ultimately mastered it. It’s a weird sensation when you aren’t used to it today. Definitely better from a pillion perspective. 👍😎🇦🇺

@chrishart8548 8 месяцев назад

The anti dive was very crude and complicated. It linked the brake lines with the damping in the forks to lock out the damping. Mainly just an extra place for the forks or brakes to have an extra failure point.

@samhill3496 8 месяцев назад

Three things, 1 go down Starbucks Saturday morning and ask some fellow GS riders how the hell everything works. 2 Read the instruction book and look on YT. Enjoy the features and learn them. Much safer that way. 3 Comment on the old GS, FOR SALE. Now when you get one opt for the centerstand and controller. It will save your shoulder. It has a self help rize feature similar to Harley and KTM. Yes, more items to go wrong but great when they are working. Presence on road. We have waited over forty years for a more powerful, compact and agile GS. We got it now. The new GS ADV will have presence form what I have seen. Safe riding. Be glad when the boss box arrives and get her take. Take care, safe rides.

@carsyoungtimerfreak1149 8 месяцев назад

Let me be frank... After over 100 years BMW should know how to build their traditional model. However, still a clunky gearbox. You can now configure a button to act as the heated grip button... It all does not sound as progress. Quicker? If you are a responsible rider you know you can hardly use that power in today's traffic. Do not get me wrong, I am not knocking your review, you do a good job. I do knock the GS 1300 (and other modern bikes). I also understand the final drive unit will have to be replaced every 60.000 km, always under warranty. I did read that recently. Progress? A well maintained final drive used to last almost the life time of the bike. On my old Pan it was still OK after over 100.000 miles... I will never buy a new bike or car. I hate depreciation and I will not spend the money, so it is irrelevant to me personally. However... my (for me new) 2001 R1150RT has a clumsy gearbox and engine (the 'KFR' syndrome), yet it does have a heated grip button and a final drive that has to be well maintained, yet does not have to be mandatory replaced every 60.000 km. OK, it is not as frugal as the more modern boxer twin and the modern one runs better. But still, I only paid 2700 EUR for a 1 owner, full service history RT... I can buy a lot of petrol and fund a lot of maintenance for the money I did not spend on purchasing the bike... However I do envy the green and gold color scheme, that is really beautiful in my eyes. Much more so than my silver RT! All the best with your shoulder.

@stephenmundane 8 месяцев назад

Well said.

@benny353 8 месяцев назад

He's buying it, I'll stick a fiver on it. 😁

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

:0)

@RutgerSmets 8 месяцев назад

This is why I love your channel, Andy. You do REAL riding, what all of us do 90% of the time. It makes for way more relevant reviews.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

I'm glad you think that - I try and point out the things that are important to me as a "normal" rider...

@SuperchargedLlama 8 месяцев назад

Hear, hear!

@PaulThorpeOfficial 8 месяцев назад

No doubt it is a great bike, but a look that only its Mother could love. Has to be the ugliest machine I've ever seen! And I love the GS/GSA

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

I’m with you on that!

@grhmnz4648 8 месяцев назад

I thought you would be impressed with the bike . The performance of any headlight,, not its looks, is the important aspect for me . The only development I feel BMW didn't do, was to make this new engine fully water cooled .A great first ride review Andy . Your new camera is fantastic.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@MrFlowerfred 8 месяцев назад

Great review as always. I just ordered one. Same colour but not the gold wheels as I'm nowhere near as tidy with my bikes as you are! 😉

@simonbowen6653 8 месяцев назад

You had to spend too much time ploughing through menus instead of looking at the road. I imagine that'll improve with familiarity. As a fellow 5'8" rider I guess the seat height must have been okay as you didn't mention it. I like your "all aspects" approach to reviewing the bike but I don't think I'll ever actually like the front end.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

I’ve actually fitted a low seat since this review!

@simonbowen6653 8 месяцев назад

@@TheMissendenFlyerInteresting, so in stock set up it was too tall for you.

@JezNashMusic 8 месяцев назад

Well worth the wait for this superb review! In my opinion, definitely a good call waiting for the initial hype to bow out. A brilliant real-world honest account of day to day riding on this machine. The looks have obviously been divisive especially the front end, but now seeing that radar in action I dunno, the front makes more sense to me now, and therefore I think I’m warming to it. I am high on post-op codeine, though! Great to see you back in the saddle, sir, and thanks for this excellent down-to-earth review - I think many thousands of people are going to find it super-useful as they contemplate the move up from the older GSs, and also many many others who are considering the shift across to the BM. Great stuff!

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Cheers Jez - hope you’re off the codeine soon (I hated that stuff!)

@Skiamakhos 8 месяцев назад

My brother in law has a degree in Engineering & he's very skeptical of the GS' shaft drive, says most GS owners only keep them a couple of years & the splines start wearing out shortly after 2 years. We could do with having a real long long term test. I'm skeptical of Dave's skepticism myself - back in the day I heard nothing but good about shafties. Be interesting to see who's right.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

I’ve had mine 10 years and never had an issue with the shaft drive!

@stephenpotts8170 8 месяцев назад

Hi Andy, this was the one I have been waiting for, a real world review, and you did not disappoint. There have been many detractors about GS's, and the people who own and ride them, generally the rider who opts for a GS has been there and done it and want's a bike that does everything really well, reliably. I know you are keen to replace your old GS, but do you think it may be wise also to consider the new GSA as a replacement when it comes out later this year, hopefully. It could have the best of both worlds being lighter than the old one, but having more road presence than the GS. Thank you.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Indeed I do!

@carlosprieto4580 8 месяцев назад

Multistrada….. Simply the best

@ironmanmichael 8 месяцев назад

I’ve said it before, I love the fact that you do show what the lights are like at night. The lack of illuminated switch gear is a killer for me though. A high end bike with all those buttons and options should have switch illumination these days to match the competition. Not for me.

@andrewjames777 8 месяцев назад

I ride a lot at night and can remember where all my controls are by touch and muscle memory. Maybe the backlit switchgear is made for novices.

@GDM22 8 месяцев назад

Yeah not sure that is a valid reason to dismiss a bike, you must do a lot of night riding, without street lights and also struggle to learn your controls.

@jamesschneider3828 8 месяцев назад

The thing is, what % of riding at night will one be doing and what type of roads will you be riding at night? I've lived for 60 years without lighted switch gear and never had a problem after I learned where and how the controls work.

@mikedignum1868 8 месяцев назад

Nope...I hate to say it but I don't like the 1300, even after my test ride. My previous bike was the 1250GS and much preferred that. And that's why I ended up buying a 1250RS (2020)

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Fair dos

@The333 8 месяцев назад

Looks amazing. I know you won't get to ride this one off asphalt, but I am interested to see how the new model feels on green lanes/sand. Great review.

@nscott26 8 месяцев назад

Its a shame that it doesn't have the adaptive ride height feature for you to try, i think that would be a great option. Hopefully your shoulder is getting better!

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Sadly my shoulder is worse - I won't bore you with the details but I have another operation to go at least! BMW said they will lend me another with adaptive ride height to try so stay tuned!

@DucatiDale 8 месяцев назад

Only the vertically challenged would want that feature normal size folk couldn’t care less

@philipTOMPSETT 8 месяцев назад

I agree as I bought a lowered suspension 1250 last year and i’m really interested in a comparison to the uppydowny auto thing at junctions.

@stevesteve1965 8 месяцев назад

This is another example of why I bought the Guzzi V85TT, to get away from all this increased tech manufacturers are continuing to put on bikes. It is of course superb and handy but quite frankly I think it's too distracting now, way too much. I'm the captain of this ship not the bike.! It's more stuff to look at, worry about or go wrong. I managed for years without all of this and never needed it before. I have satNav or my "carplay" to add when or if I need to for directions but that's it. Plus the cost of all this. I got the Guzzi for 10k where as my normal go to brand wants 14k for what I was going to upgrade to. I can enjoy the same roads, pace, comfort, distance as all these techy bikes with less worry or distraction.. Your 'commuting'-'filtering' is along way from mine in London 😆

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

I have to work with what I have!

@Mitchstep 8 месяцев назад

The question is, would you prefer one of these? Or a used 1250 and have 10 grand in the bank, or a used 1200 and 15 grand in the bank....

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Videos on that coming soon!

@ianhalliwell8604 8 месяцев назад

You mentioned all that power but can i ask exactly how many of those massive amounts of ponies did you actually use on your ride. I just question that you pay for all those hundred plus ponies but exactly wonder how many are you actually using. Just a thought.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Handy for ovretakes as I found out today!

@ianhalliwell8604 8 месяцев назад

Very true Andy but my bike only has 46 horses yet overtakes easily and can hold 75 all day on the motorway so do i really need over hundred plus horses ?

@dalegreen5390 8 месяцев назад

I’ve had all that BMW could offer but have gone back in technology with a triumph Bonneville and a 2003 Honda pan European and I have not missed any of the technology that I had and my bank balance has gained a lot of weight as a consequence

@TheCyclone1100 8 месяцев назад

Will you stop saying I'm not tall at 5ft 8 when loads of us are much shorter you don't understand the meaning of short.

@chrishart8548 8 месяцев назад

5' 8" is kinda short in general. At that height you're barely taller than a lot of girls.

@clivelockwood3236 8 месяцев назад

Good review as all ways , to my eye i think its better looking than its predecessors sleeker and more purposeful .

@mfpix 8 месяцев назад

It's a big shame that BMW didn't backlight the handlebar switches.

@KiwiMoto72 8 месяцев назад

Mate, as an aspiring RU-vidr myself, I love how you have your helmet audio sorted so well. I’m still experiementing. I’m glad they haven’t put that god awful wide screen they have on the RT on this GS, and i agree they phone connectivity on all the platforms is terrible. Just make em all Carplay ready. Thx as always

@koshtie 8 месяцев назад

Hi Andy the Osmo is way better @ night it shows the headlight amazing, so much better than a Go pro ever did ? ATB Wayne......

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Absolutely agree - GoPro is no more!

@garyhope0103 8 месяцев назад

Tks Mr Flyer for the usual first time rider video, presented in layman terms. Still not convinced of the front view, but the rest looks an improvement. My only concern for BMW would be, have they done enough to bring more riders to their brand from others, also is it good enough for present GS owners to upgrade when ready. Also, with reference to the adaptive cruise control, which is one 'toy' I think is useful, would be on the 'odd' occasion you get the inconsiderate driver who overtakes, then 'cuts' you up, slows down as they 'forget' they need to exit the road at this junction, causing you to do an 'emergency' stop, which is frightening enough in a car/HGV, so on a bike could be underpant changing. Just something to be aware of, especially when using it on dual carriageways and motorways.

@redjacc7581 8 месяцев назад

why do they use the boxer engine? why not another one?

@kevinjones7732 8 месяцев назад

You know you’re going to pull the trigger on a new GS 👍🏻 I take it people know that the EU changed construction and Use regs which now means all bike headlights must be symmetrical. The days of offset lights like an old F800r and early GS’s have now gone.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Time will tell!

@chema1546 8 месяцев назад

Hello, good morning, it's great but I can't afford it why 🤪 for €22,000 I bought an Opel granland and not a motorcycle 🏍️ best regards from Valencia

@hartley383 8 месяцев назад

Great review Andy covering the stuff we want to know. I’ve recently chopped in my 1250 GS for an adventure. I’d seen the new 1300 but wasn’t convinced on the looks or the apparent reduction in physical size. Look as if it wouldn’t accommodate rider and pillion as well as my GS. I will get a test ride at some point. Thing that strikes me every time I see one is the way it doesn’t appear to have a cockpit The TFT and Nav prep just seem stacked up in front of you. I think I’d prefer the winglets at the side to be solid rather than transparent. Think this would also go some way to giving the bike a bit more presence like the old model. Mind you, I’ve a GSA and that looks like there’s a house coming down the road at you.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Very true!

@dotb.rides01 8 месяцев назад

I like the green and gold, reminds me of the South African Springbok rugby team.

@Grumpy-Goblin 8 месяцев назад

Reality vs New Toy Syndrome. Loads of features (got to justify that massive price somehow) but in the real world how many of those features are you going to use? I reckon 90% are going to be set and forget or just leave how it comes out of the box and yet the things we all use on a regular basis (Heated Grips, seat and screen height) now more of a faff even if you do assign them to that button. Not interested in radar cruise control I can see when I'm getting closer to something and blind spot detection I'm not sure about either. Humans are lazy and is it just going to make us more reliant on the tech for our safety than our own senses? Is it going to lead to less "lifesavers"? I'm sure it performs amazingly but are we just throwing tech at bikes just for the sake of it or to justify stratospheric prices? I still think it looks too generic from the side and I still think you'd have to tie a bone around that front end just to get the dog to play with it it is so ugly.

@markpeddle4688 8 месяцев назад

And while you're looking at the lovely dash you're not looking where you're going.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

So I'm detecting you guys aren't a fan of the new bike then? And I don't disagree with many of your points I must say!

@markpeddle4688 8 месяцев назад

TMF : Sir, I do like the bike but I'm old school and I don't need all the fancy gadgets that manufacturers throw at us these days, for example riding modes in my day it was called controlling throttle anyway I've changed my mind about soft panniers on the Z900.Keep up the good work 👏

@dexradio 8 месяцев назад

Now I've seen it in real life, I'm still not convinced by the looks of the bike. But no doubt, it's a brilliant bike indeed, still haven't ridden it yet. Maybe the smart money waits until the first revision of the bike is done and hope it adds a bit of "lipstick" to it. Also BMW really need to sort out the backlighting of the switchgear!

@OntarioAndrews415 8 месяцев назад

Well done, Sir. Bravo. Overall a very good review and I will await to see/hear more about this all new R1300GS. I will add that perhaps the all new R1300GSA will have a larger road presence. Me personally, I always liked the GS looks over the GSA for their R1200/1250 series.

@davidz8 8 месяцев назад

A great first impressions review. As someone who didn't like the looks of the outgoing GS, I really like the new look, your new camera was fantastic, especially the night time headlight shots, it was nice to see the train station car park again, but please take it easy on your shoulder for a while. I think the front cruise radar plastics looks the perfect location for a TMF sticker, available online now. 😀

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

I tried a sticker on there earlier - it fell off!!

@hangpilot1200 6 месяцев назад

Just traded in my 2023 S1000XR for this bike. The quick-shifter on the XR is silky-smooth; the GS shifter is swinging a sledge hammer at a brick wall. Brakes on the XR are much more capable than the GS. Everything else... technology, anti-dive, comfort, torque... is why I now drive this bike 🤪

@classicraceruk1337 8 месяцев назад

Ask Mrs Flyer to manoeuvre the bike, put it on the stand etc. Would be interesting to see how short people like me( I mean real short people not giants like you) cope.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

She wouldn’t be able to handle it alas….

@elithegreat6463 8 месяцев назад

I still would never buy this or any other first year Motorcycle. And Yes, my 2023 Triumph 900-GT-Pro has lighted switch gear. The Perfect Goldilocks Bike IMO

@Moto_APT 8 месяцев назад

No one has mentioned the centre stand, it's a doddle to get on and off compared to my 2018 1200! Much easier than before. I agree in the flesh it's still a GS. BUT local Triumph dealer will do a 1200 Trophy GT Pro for 15k, that's 2k off list price and 5 to 7k below similarly spec GS. Mmmm.🤔

@magneticvision999 8 месяцев назад

Deliberate heavy braking to "test the fork dive", on wet, greasy roads? Rather you than me.

@PatsNotUsedChannel 8 месяцев назад

Great great review. I agree on the buttons, for me anything that I need to change while going down the road should have a button versus a menu selection. Great information to pass along, thank you so much for now I will hold on to my 1250 and see how things work out with the 1300.

@Fatcatztravel1250 8 месяцев назад

There is no mention of price. Especially once you add crash bars, spots and top box. Not sure about the hand guards having built in indicators, no doubt if u drop it, expensive fix. Try changing the heat grips at night when switching is not lit. Disappointed. Still not sold on the looks. The difference is not so big that i would consider trading in my 23 GSA1250. Great review.

@DucatiDale 8 месяцев назад

I’d certainly have one over the 1250 I prefer that it’s slimmer and prefer the looks tbh I rode the 1250 and pretty much hated everything about it I’d probably still have a 1200 rally pro over this though if I was heading down that route

@colinbarber9324 8 месяцев назад

Looks an absolute stunner, lighter and faster, beautiful colour scheme Snags………..the eye watering cost of it. Keyless ignition, can the fob be scanned in your pocket ? Would you leave it parked up in London, Manchester or other crime ridden cities ?

@andyjdaviestjk 8 месяцев назад

I haven't ridden a BM, not sure about the looks but the engine is proven and the electronics would put me off

@volksmania114 8 месяцев назад

Great review again on the GS and doing normal everyday riding and showing us an insight into the main aspects of the bike. Glad your on the mend, too, and able to get back on a bike. Take care and ride safe

@crustyzimmerman3324 8 месяцев назад

I don’t know if this will make sense, but it seems to me that in the first minute of riding, the way you place the bike and the way it tracks on when you drive it forward, I immediately got the impression that you were very’at home’ riding it. You can’t stay away from Chequers though, can you?😂😂😂 Someone I know with a GS says to not quite fully let off the shift lever when using the quick shifter and change up at 6k.

@S_M_R_24 8 месяцев назад

Not a bike for my taste but I do find the ‘real world’ nature of the review good compared to others who rave about it whilst in glorious sunshine we never see in the UK! Sadly this machine also comes with BMW’s atrocious after sales service which in the UK is truly abysmal - and before anyone comments, yes I own a BMW.

@Fernando90054 8 месяцев назад

I thought that it was easier to collect a nice image as you have and I’ve done that with my prior GSA but with this one I used a chest mount for the camera (once I don’t like the chin mount directly on the helmet), and surprisingly I couldn’t film the road over the windshield and Navigate support device 😅 is not very camera friendly this new GS 1300 …

@philg7889 8 месяцев назад

The old 'tank-like' GS was no doubt a great design, with very individual styling, but this one looks fabulous. Would I have one? Yup!

@ianbriden7907 8 месяцев назад

Hi Andy,the pannier cases you may have missed a trick.What purpose are the internal lights at the back cases?with all your stuff inside the cases the lights become redundant,could have been positioned in a more useful place perhaps?

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

That's a very good point! They are quite fiddly to use and not very spacious either....

@ZedHead1968 8 месяцев назад

Air cooled four cylinders and carburettors, yes please. Gadget laden two wheeled computers, no thank you.

@dirkhuman760 8 месяцев назад

From South Africa I do enjoy the wet and slippery review and I wonder what that would be like, without the sun. Hahaha.

@johncf5565 8 месяцев назад

A few years back it's all about what's the best about a bike, but now for me it's about travelling on regardless what bike. All these techs on these bikes for me r overwhelmed.... not interested anymore..😂

@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 8 месяцев назад

Personally I never liked the look of the GS but now they've 'V-Strommed' it I find it quite appealing....

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Yes well someone has too!! Seriously, it is growing on me now I'm getting to know the bike.....

@mathiashammar1 8 месяцев назад

Have you changed camera ? 1:39 You look blurry like CGI effect 😂 like greenscreen.

@davidhindley6885 8 месяцев назад

Great review Andy! Re heated grips/seat and electric windshield, preselect the windshield from the hamburger menu as your default for the up/down button. If you then long press the hamburger button, it will bring up a heated grips/seat menu on the main TFT screen which can then be adjusted by the up/down button. After a few seconds this menu disappears leaving the up/down button to control the screen again. This avoids constantly having to reassign the up/down button.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

I must look into that!

@641pjensen 8 месяцев назад

Th reason the gearbox is clunky is because it is wider ratio than a typical sport bike. That means that there is MUCH more differential speed in the gearbox at the point where the transmission has to jump to the next gear. The inertia of the engine then abruptly causes a surge in torque and the clunk and surge feel. All the good sport bikes have incredibly close ratio transmissions, so there is almost no difference in engine rpm between gears. This makes for smooth shifts at the expense of having high revs at cruising speed and a lot of clutch slipping to take off. That's fine and good on a track, beneficial even. For a touring bike, I would rather have a wide ratio gearbox and deal with the clunk or use the clutch to smooth the ratio change.

@cliveomahoney4096 8 месяцев назад

The look of the headlights on the new Hornet and, imo, the Ducati Street fighter, for ageing air guitarists, is the apogee of ugliness. The new GS looks great. Unlike the old ones that appear to be carved from granite.

@Porsche996driver 8 месяцев назад

10:11 He was probably worried for a sec there. Yeah great bike, I even love the dark forest green. 🌲🏁

@andypreston6899 8 месяцев назад

Funny how the speed went all blurry when you cranked up the speed on the motorway. Also you didn't mention the vehicle detection in the mirrors that we could see keep going on and off.

@MrG61-u9k 8 месяцев назад

Although not a GS fan, for me the new ones greatest asset is it looks nothing like the old one.

@markshirley7639 8 месяцев назад

I can't get my head around the lack of exhaust note just the sound of the motor which isn't a particularly nice sound !

@oo-dd3lk 8 месяцев назад

Must be me, it looks cheap. ( Quality, not purchase price.) maybe the paint job.

@SteveLawrance 8 месяцев назад

Whoa ! That’s a lot of fiddling with menus when really need your eyes on the road….. would I buy one ? No ! Fewer gadgets for me, less to go wrong…..

@kentishmale1969 4 месяца назад

Its a fine looking bike, but if i was looking to buy a big Adventure bike the lack of a real rear brake light would instantly put me off this one (i dont trust it to be understood by all other road users)

@MaxUtley 8 месяцев назад

Ok - a cathartic whinge at BMW - not my cup of tea - although I wouldn’t say no to a classic 1970s BMW or a K1600 or touring bike. I would still take 2 wheels any day over any 4 wheel thing However let me comment on the style and content of video - excellent - what a great review style. Very well filmed and some “real” feedback that is actually very informative and useful. BTW - England looks awful in winter

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the kind words Rupert - and your dead right about England in winter!!

@MaxUtley 8 месяцев назад

First impression is that the perspex lower fairing is awful - reminds me of those stick on fairings people used to put on 1970 motorcycles - a bit Reliant Robin and C90 ish Heating ? Don’t need in the Nubian desert - might be useful on way to a US or U.K. coffee shop Colour looks like an Austin Allegro or a 1990s Rover saloon Nope - I am too young and handsome to ride a BMW

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Fair enough….

@boblynch7535 8 месяцев назад

Sorry, me again. I’m a Tiger owner so biased, but Triumph’s switches are hard to beat.

@ursjungo5896 8 месяцев назад

What a pity Andy that you have fallen into the trap of the ubiquitous RU-vid 'influencer' to label your first ride review 'honest'....we know that you always provide genuine information; no need to add 'honest'. We know you are.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Seems to garner more views if you do that (although it implies previous are dishonest!!!)

@GibbAsp 8 месяцев назад

High Andy. Thanks for the review, I like this GS more than previous models. For radar cruise controls you may like to try testing what the vehicle does when a) Speed is restricted by a vehicle in front and you change to adjacent empty lane and b) the opposite when your in an empty lane and you switch to a lane with a vehicle in front. The way bike applies power or brakes to adjust the speed on some marques is really unpredictable, sometimes near full throttle is applied to get back up to speed.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Yes there are some use cases where it isn’t great I agree, but in the main it’s brilliant (especially for resting my dodgy shoulders on long motorway runs)….

@n22pdf 8 месяцев назад

Love the GS I think BMW did a great job of the new model.. :) Pete

@kramnam4716 8 месяцев назад

I love the look of the older ones because they were so distinctive. This is far more generic computer design look.

@straieraswift5785 3 месяца назад

Thank you for showing us wet road riding. It looks safe with hard braking.

@oliverlotus 8 месяцев назад

Do you ever hear the purchaser of a modern car talking about 'fuelling'

@dino5254 8 месяцев назад

For the short riders this has a better version of the HD Pan America Adaptive Ride Height. If I fit this one this bike will be my last bike. I have the Tiger 900 GT Pro with all the bells and whistle but I will spend for this along with Adaptive Cruise Control.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Yes that cruise control is brilliant

@LordGrievous1970 8 месяцев назад

This headlight on the new GS... How does it compare to the LED headlight on your R1200GS GS? Better... same...?

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

Way better!

@andrewdyson4255 8 месяцев назад

Like the blind spot light in the mirror on the motorway and love the colour

@jag1970s 8 месяцев назад

May the wind never buffet your helmet, Andy. I’m in the position that I have a 10 year old r1200GS TE and I think BMW are a victim of its success - most of the bike looks and handles as new. It cost me £7500 three years ago. Why would I spend big money on this, since I enjoy every ride on the bike I have got?

@Theorangeman. 8 месяцев назад

Exactly, yours is probably more robust too

@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 8 месяцев назад

Most salient comment on this thread.

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

I agree - infact I made a video for upload soon comparing the two (I also have a 10 year old 1200) and asking is it worth the upgrade? Stay tuned!

@MrEtnorb 8 месяцев назад

I’d like to see an automatic in future models. No need for more capacity/ Hp.

@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff 8 месяцев назад

A pillion point of view will be interesting. I measure the rear pegs 8cm higher but 6cm further forward than the outgoing model (from the middle of the pillion seat). I wonder if the new “Adventure” model will have a different rear subframe with more pillion space?

@TheMissendenFlyer 8 месяцев назад

We shall see!