BMW S1000RR exhaust headers on S1000R. Install video 

Thanks. had it for 13 years, it's my pride and joy.

Thanks. Good to have been of help. Also good to hear that you are happy with the sound. I will get a tune for my bike too, but the tuner is some 500km away so I will have to do that later when I get time. Might go for the -RR valve cables too, probably as a winter project though.

my bike is at tuner right now. a really well known track tuner here in cali. will let you know what the hp numbers are.

Area Cycles my bike is a little jerky with the new exhaust, also pops and crackles a fair bit. Let me know if it becomes smoother too. HP isn’t everything, drivability is more important to me.

well the drive ability is actually really good the way it is, does pop a little more now. but i just want to tune it to make sure it is running properly so i dont mess up anything internally. plus i do want to see what the bike actually puts down now. my tuner is tuning the bike for ride ability for street and canyon riding and an occasional track day. ill post of vid of the sound later. i guess as my first vid

don't mind share the hp numbers? thanks

Thanks. The S1000R left 2 years ago, the e31 is on 16 years and counting :)

Hi. No I have no issues with that. But the S1kr only revs to 12.000rpm. Also I don't drive up near top speed very often. My guess would that perhaps your front exhaust valve is not working correctly (should trigger a fault though), or the engine detects that you are running too lean and won't let the engine rev higher. Might need a tune. My bike is pretty rough, think its too lean, so I'm going to get a power commander and perhaps an auto-tune.

I think those have a higher foot position, probably not comfortable considering the more upright seating position. I was looking for reasets to lower my foot position, but I could not find any. My mechanic managed to fix this by cutting off a short piece of the -RR headers, it lines up now and looks completely stock. Not gotten started with the videos this year year, the season has just kicked off and I plan to cover this, and tuning the bike in a video, hopefully within the next 2-3 weeks.

Matt Wong from about 10:30 I mention something about this. I used the s1000r cables but had to place them in a specific manner. If not the cable would be stuck and the actuator not able to move the valve.

@@850bimmer can you give me pointer as how to position the cables? It's not very visible in the video. I've adjusted them a couple of times but still no luck. Thanks!

Hi. I dont have the bike anymore, I did about 2000km on this setup with a stock tune, then I had the bike tuned and did 1500-2000km. Never installed a db-killer. I know the new owner has done 8000 problem free km on the bike. Never had the issue you mentioned, have you considered a tune, I.e power commander or Bazzaz. I had Bazzaz and a custom tune done on a dyno.

@@850bimmer Thank You for quick answer. I will need to do a remap then. Have a safe ride!

Hei. Det er Rizoma reverse retro. Akkurat kjøpt samme til den nye sykkelen. De er dyre, Puig har noen som er veldig like til en litt hyggeligere pris. Bare å bytte eksos, mye bedre lyd i sykkelen :)

The rear valve is semi-closed under 4000rpm and fully open above 4000. You would get a louder bike at low speeds but no change at higher speeds/rpm. Also the valve is splingloaded closed so you would have to fix it open, not sure if the servo will throw a fault code if disconnect the wire and it sees no load, electrically disconnecting it will. But there are modules for that, think they are called "servo buddy" or something.

You can expect it to be quite loud. the RR has 3 catalytic converters, two in the header pipes, and one in the rear muffler. Now you only have the two in the Header pipe. You can leave it stock, but I recommend a tune. I drove mine 2000km before installing a tune.

@@850bimmer ok thanx. Will see how and what :-) first to put the old one down and thr new one up....i have time till march now. Thx and all the best.

patrick bobay Hi. I never had that issue. But my bike was a -14. I suspect the engine management system may have changed in the newer models. Think -17 was a “new” bike. Is there a sensor in the exhaust you did not move over? Like a second o2 sensor or something? I’m sorry I can’t be of much help, perhaps the forums will know, try the s1000r.co.uk forum, I found a lot of knowledgeable people was on there.

The headers would fit just fine, the muffler/Slip-on. I guess that would depend on the mount. If the mount is at the passenger footrest then you would probably be OK. If it's on the rider footrest, you will probably have the same issue I have with the mount. Also if the Akrapovic system has a rear valve, you will have a similar issue that I have. The pipes will fit and bolt straight on, the issue will be the valve and the muffler mount.

It’s by constands.

@@850bimmer thank you very much. Also does the adapter plate matter, can an rr stand be used for the single R or any year single R

@@512460 not sure when BMW changed the frame on the bikes. Should be interchangeable from the first RR and R at least up to 2019. Probably best to check out Constands website to be sure.

I did not remove the radiator, I removed the bottom mount (between the radiator and oil cooler) this has to be removed because of the link pipes on the header. Then I loosened the top radiator mount screws about half way and that gave me enough flex in the radiator so that I could remove and install the headers.

Only the -14 and -15 RR had this exhaust. The -16 has a completely different system and not the same advantages the -14/-15 has. the -16 RR muffler also mounts to the passenger footpeg, not the rearset as on the previous models.

Hi, I sold the bike 5 months ago, but I did use the S1000R cables, not the S1000RR ones, I just rotated the hard metal part as best I could to get the servo to operate.

@@850bimmer ok thanks. I can't seem to get enough to get them to fit.

#hbwesman It’s being done now. A Bazzaz system was installed day before yesterday, just waiting for the Dyno to be available. Initial run showed that it was lean all over, messy below 4000rpm, hence the “bucking bronco” at low rpm, a general dip in the midrange and it pretty much flatlined at 9000rpm. Think I had about 150 whp. I’ll make a follow up video when it’s done.

@@850bimmer Oh wow, that's interesting. I've been considering a full Yoshimura system and contacted them directly asking if my bike would need a tune after a full system install. They replied and said that there system is designed to use the stock/OEM engine map and that a tune is not necesssary(here in SoCal anyways). Might be needed in other parts of the world in extreme climates, elevations, etc... So I am finding it pretty interesting that after installing the S1000RR that a tune would be necessary. Decisions, decisions.........

@@wes8249 I guess my change has significantly changed the flow in the exhaust as the -RR headers has much less restrictions, I eliminated the catalytic converter in the slip-on which further changed things. Also these bikes are quite lean from the factory down low to get the best possible emissions score, this is why they pop and crackle a lot. Many bikes are therefore quite jerky riding around in city traffic, not dangerous, but less comfortable and very annoying. I expect to have a smooth bike at all revs after the tune, and maybe 5 horsepower more than stock, but that is not really my goal.

I got the bracket with the exhaust, so if you get one, make sure you get it, or else BMW will probably help you get one. the rear muffler does not line up with the footpeg mount as mentioned at 9:45, but if you cut a little off the header pipe, it can be made to fit. Front fitment is mentioned at 7 minutes, and the rear mount is mentioned at 8.50 minutes in the video.

@@850bimmer OK thanks for the input, I'm definitely doing this mod!

Do you know if an s1000r exhaust slip on would fit

CarbonKLR no. If you look at the header end tubes, as I explain early in the video an s1000r slip-on will point almost straight out the side of the bike.

Me being short :) I got tired of tiptoeing around when parking, I was over 40 so my hips and knees did not like the riding position that much either and I had ridden the bike for 3 seasons, it was just time to move on.

Your bike has the same frame as my bike so should be no problem. you may end up with a similar issue for mounting the slip-on, but chances are its bolt on.

Yannick B yes the puter diameter is 60mm, inner diameter is 57mm

850bimmer is it nessesarry to tune or or is it otherwise Bad for the Engine ?

Yannick B I did not feel anything wrong with the bike, but I decided to have mine tuned, it was a bit rough in slow speed, but that is quite normal on these bikes, they are lean from the factory. I had a bazzaz tuningbox installed. My tuner said my plugs were white, so the bike was running lean, but I doubt the exhaust did it. I saw a 8hp gain with the tune and a silky smooth bike.

Freemaysin I did eventually, after about 3000km. Made a huge difference with a tune, but not something I’d say you need to do straight away.

I think an inspector would have to have detailed knowledge of the bike to spot that it was an exhaust for a different model BMW. It looks like a stock exhaust with a E marked slip-on, my Cobra Slip-on is manufactured in Germany. In my country motorcycles are not inspected, only cars every 2 years. So unless I get pulled over and noise measured, I don't expect any problems, it's not that loud. If you install the 3rd analytic converter between the slip-on and the header pipe, the system is compliant with the same EURO category as the 15/16 -RR which basically has the same engine. The first bike this mod was done on was a German one, and where everyone at the S1000R forum got the inspiration.

@@850bimmer do you have a link to read it by myself?

Odwyn X forum thread here. www.s1000r.co.uk/index.php/topic,4243.0.html

superspoon 69 it’s by Wundelich.

Yes, quite a lot louder, the S1000R has a big Catalytic converter in the big bulky box. The S1000RR of those particular years, has a small catalytic converter in the header pipes, and anther one in the slip-on muffler. Doing this mod is essentially a partial de-cat. I never measured the sound, but probably 2-3 times louder than stock, but that would depend on your slip-on as well.

Robert Cole RR, has to be because of the different bend on the header end.

@@850bimmer awesome! thanks! ✌️ Just bought 15 RR headers with cables and both servos on ebay! Although I don't think there is any way of using the other servo :/

Robert Cole the front servo can’t be used. It’s spring loaded to closed which is fine. I think the RR open that valve at 10.000rpm or so for top end power, after all the RR revs 2000rpm higher than the R. You should have a good setup, might consider a tune, I ended up tuning mine.

@@850bimmer I think you meant to say the front servo is spring loaded to stay open and it closes at high rpm

No, not any high temperature. but the bike did run lean. I just had it tuned and my tuner said the plugs were white. BMW has tunes this bike lean to start with for emissions reasons. How much leaner the exhaust made it I really can't say. To be safe, you should get a tune if you do this. I have just ridden the bike a few kilometers since the tune, but it's so much smoother and comfortable to ride.

@@850bimmer I have done the swap on my 2014 RR with same 2015 RR headers with HP4 spec SC project end can.... It's loud like really loud.... I can hear the mechanical sounds from engine.... I am going to get it checked this week at BMW if everything is fine.... Did you got a flash on ECU to tune?

@@SuperChinmay07 sorry I forgot to answer this. I got a Bazzaz tuning box and had the bike tuned, ECU flash for custom tunes are hard to come by.

@@850bimmer I am in the process of doing the exact same swap and same exhaust. I love the results of it. Is there a huge difference after you tuned it? Or can i get away with not tuning?

Sorry but I don’t remember, sold the bike 1,5 ago so I can’t check. The size is the same between the bikes, it’s just the angle of the outlet pipe that is different.

OdwyN77 I looked on eBay for a couple of weeks and bought mine from UK for about £150.

@@850bimmer lol. Cant find any of These.... seems like they are hard to find🤔

This set in the US www.ebay.com/itm/15-16-BMW-S1000RR-HEADER-EXHAUST-PIPE-MANIFOLD-NICE/253947538236?hash=item3b2073eb3c:g:qN4AAOSwtbxbz~Vw

Another one in the US www.ebay.com/itm/2015-BMW-S1000RR-K46-Nice-oem-Exhaust-Pipe-Header-Manifold-18518548760/254461464826?hash=item3b3f15d0fa:g:GakAAOSwiJReAIC-

Think I saw 8-10 of them on eBay. Most in the US and one in Canada.

CarbonKLR nothing huge with regards to power. felt a bit more linear, and with a tune I got a 9hp gain. I did not compare stock. But this exhaust pre and post tune. Think I ended up with 169hp at the crank. Sound is a fair bit louder but not in a way where you would get in trouble, I have a separate video on my channel for a sound test. I sold the bike in March, so I’m not able to provide any new sound clips.

@@850bimmer why did you end up selling your bike? Did you get something else?

@@AlanTrades I sold the bike for several reasons. I had 4 seasons on it, with the suspension mods the bike became quite high and I gut tired of tippy toeing the bike and constantly be scared of dropping it (i'm short, 174cm and 74cm inseam). Also the foot position was starting to annoy me, hips and knees did not like it (I'm 42 y.o. by the way), and there where no lowing rear sets on the market. I replaced it with a new red Ducati Diavel 1260s. that bike is lower and much mor comfortable to ride.

Tyler Spoor not quite. It’s an 850i with a supercharger :) owned that for 14 years.

Mayank Harbola Need, probably not. But I did after about 3000km. Mostly to get a smoother running bike in the city, it was a bit jerky at low speeds. So from what I saw you don’t need to, but it is recommended just because it makes the bike run so much better.

@@850bimmer where can you get it tuned at and how much does it cost usually to tune?

@@AlanTrades I guess this depends from country to country, but a Powercommander or Bazzaz unit is what you need. they may have a tune for say an Acrapovic full system that would probably work just fine.

Haven't ridden the bike more than 50km or so so I really can't give a proper answer. I can't really say that there is a notable difference in power in any direction, feels the same. The sound of the bike has completely changed though, but that might also be down to the choice of the Cobra slip on (which is virtually empty inside). It's deeper, drones a bit more and likes to be over 5000rpm or under 3000rpm. I find myself using 5th up to around 100kph due to drone, and in city/slow riding I use 3rd or 4th where I used 2nd earlier because otherwise it is too loud. Since the sound is deeper I have also missed my feel for the rpm range and have redlined the bike earlier than what I expected, because I think I still have 2-3000rpm more to go and then notice the flashing light. The bike is not jerky or run rough, might actually be smoother at low rpm than before, but I think it could do with a tune. My plan is to make more videos with sound and a review once I have been able to ride the bike a few hundred km.

hi did you gain or loose power?

I can't really say 100%. I'm 90% sure the headers will fit and bolt on based on pictures I have seen of the -17 R. The slip-on might be difficult though, the -17 R has the mount on the passenger foot peg, while the older ones have it on the rear set. You would probably have to make a fairly big bracket.

Yeah, mentioned at 7:44, 3kg weight save.

The -RR is the same 2014 & 2015. 2014 was the first year with the new frame, and 2016 saw a new exhaust due to regulations. So only those two years are the same. This will bolt on to the -R from 2014-2016, since the -R in 2017 got the same frame as the -RR did in 2014, it will probably fit the 2017-2020 -R as well.

@@850bimmer i got a 2015 ...i think only the 2015 and 2016 RR header fit on the 2015 R

I got it here. www.cobraexhaust.de

Vurderer og gå over fra MT07 til BMW S1000R nå til sommeren, men har ikke fått prøvd den ut enda. Noe å anbefale da det kommer til å bli første 1000 kubikkeren jeg kjøper :)

Jeg gikk fra MT-07 til denne i 2016 og det er en heftig overgang. Sitter litt sportsligere på denne men vinden gjør at du ikke kjører alt for fort. Vindmessig sett er de temmelig like, bortsett fra at denne er tyngre og mer stabil. Jeg vet faktisk ikke hva annen sykkel jeg skulle hatt, det og at jeg har brukt endel penger i fjor/år på ny bakdemper og fjæring (18.000) eksos (10.000) og sykkelen er nå inne å får en Bazzaz tuningbox, skal mappes pluss litt før sesongs service (ca 15.000) gjør at jeg skal ha sykkelen iallfall èn sesong til. Har bare gått 22.000km, vurderte å selge den når jeg nærmet meg 30.000km, det kan bli alt mellom 1 og 2 sesonger til.

850bimmer skjønner skjønner, tenkte om jeg ikke finner en med, vil jeg legge om til full akaprovic med ecu mappinga for å unngå noe skjæring. Tingen er jo at sykkelen har en bra heftig pris iforskjell til sndre streetfightere

@@850bimmer Gikk i innkjøp av en mandagen som var, du klarte å overbevise med videoene dine! :)