BNSF's Marceline Sub: A Railroad Superhighway

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FORT MADISON, IOWA - 2018
BNSF's Southern Transcon, linking Chicago, Illinois to Los Angeles, California, serves as one of the premiere railroad corridors in the United States - with train after train of largely intermodal traffic ferrying consumer and industrial goods across the vast Great Plains and Southwestern Deserts.
Through Iowa and Missouri, the line traverses the rural rolling hills as the Marceline Sub, with a character unlike that of other segments of the line. With numerous tiny villages surrounded by lush farmland and grazing cattle, the line features plenty of curves - but all are packed with superelevation to keep this busy railroad slicing through it all at speed!
This is BNSF's Marceline Subdivision, A Railroad Superhighway, by the Thornapple River Rail Series!
Timestamps:
- 0:00 Intro
- 1:04 Fort Madison, IA
- 2:56 Argyle, IA
- 4:24 Wyaconda, MO
- 7:06 Gorin
- 8:07 Rutledge
- 9:09 La Plata
- 14:09 Marceline
- 18:08 Mendon
- 22:46 Bosworth
- 27:08 Carrollton
- 29:20 Norborne
- 33:38 Hardin
- 34:54 Henrietta
- 35:43 Camden
- 36:49 Sibley
- 42:30 Atherton
- 43:54 Kansas City (Union Station)
Curious about how the railroads in this video are laid out on the map? Check out my Google Map Overlay of Michigan’s Upper Peninsula Railroads, via this link: drive.google.com/open?id=1GeS...
Thanks for watching! Make sure to leave a like and subscribe, for more from the Thornapple River Rail Series! Your support keeps this channel rolling - don’t forget to leave your thoughts and questions in the comments below!
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Videography Equipment:
- Primary: Sony FDR-AX53 4K Camcorder
- Secondary: Sony HDR-PJ790V HD Camcorder
- Aerial Platform: DJI Phantom 3 Advanced Drone
- Radio Scanner: Uniden Bearcat BC125AT
- Edited with: Cyberlink PowerDirector 16
Created by Alex Christmas. Copyright 2018, as the Thornapple River Rail Series, All Rights Reserved

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@truckinchihuahuaalvieschre2494 5 лет назад

I use to stand at the Marceline depot watching the Trains change crews for hours with my Uncle and the late 70's. Now they don't even stop anymore.

@donhunking2286 2 года назад

My group watched this video again at our gathering last night and we ALL agreed that this was the best made we've seen in the last 10 years . You checked all the boxes . Keep making them like you've been making them .

@ginnymullins2477 4 года назад

narration was excellent and very well spoken. nice to see things we normally dont get to see. thanks

@jeffreymcfadden9403 5 лет назад

Back in late august 1983 we spent a week on the TP&W. At Ft. Madison the TP&W would terminate their trains by crossing the river and ending up in the ATSF yard. Caught one such movement with a C424. flash forward 12-13 years and we spent a week in northern Illinois on the ATSF.(edelstein) the red and silvers were brand new and we lucked out with a westbound with 4 red silver FP45s. just no time to shoot the Missouri side. solid lashups of brand new red/silver was an amazing sight.

@wheeliefish5161 5 лет назад

I’m glad to see La Plata! Such a great cam and site! Great video as always.

@johnjr.goldsberry1094 4 года назад

I also used to drive for one of the cab companies that took crew to trains wherever they needed to go and been to most of these places and in Illinois as well as Missouri and to Kansas City.

@thetransitofvenus8927 5 лет назад

Great video! I spend a decent amount of time in Gorin visiting my buddy who lives there. So cool to hear the rumble so often passing through that town.

@iusetano 5 лет назад

Thank you for all your work that you put into your videos. Excellent video Alex. Loved watching.

@Keikdv 5 лет назад

As one of many webcam viewers of La Plata, it is nice to see what it looks like far from that station. Well done, again!!

@wheeliefish5161 5 лет назад

I agree it’s cool seeing the station from a different perspective. Woulda liked to see Bob though!

@ohgary 5 лет назад

WheelieFish Bob came out couple of nights ago and helped an elderly passenger board the SWC.

@wheeliefish5161 5 лет назад

@@ohgary Nice. Bob seems like a nice guy. Haven't watched it in a couple weeks or so I miss it. Do you ever chat?

@ohgary 5 лет назад

WheelieFish: I mostly lurk and read what others post. I only learned about Virtual Rail recently.

@samf3416 5 лет назад

By far the best railroad videos I've seen up to date! Excellent use of the camera! Keep up the excellent and hard work, Alex! I enjoy watching your documentaries a lot!

@bob39434 5 лет назад

You do an awesome job. This is just as good if not better than most commercial rail videos. Thanks for sharing your work.

@unclespongehead 5 лет назад

Better than most, if you're from Michigan.

@calerail9558 10 месяцев назад

Love visting this highly active line! It has everything a railfan could want; high speed trains and high frequency! Also great documentary

@jimsmoter4510 5 лет назад

That double deck bridge is very cool , never have seen one before this video. Great video..thanks

@jameswatson5304 4 года назад

I am a Amtrak Locomotive Engineer from Chicago to Fort Madison and that is by far mt favorite part of my run. The Amazing Santa Fe Swing Bridge. My advice to you if you get a chance go to Fort Madison and see it in person. You will not be disappointed!!!!

@maccomando111 5 лет назад

Absolutely Fantastic. Can't wait for the next video to come out.

@philcrase7425 5 лет назад

Really nice video! I recently got into watching train videos and am amazed at how much that I have learned, railroading is far more interesting than I thought it would be. Thanks!!!

@donhunking2286 2 года назад

Me too Phil . These guys make the best train videos I've ever watched . Looking forward to seeing and learning lots more on this channel.

@Beargizmo3 3 года назад

Another great video! Thank you so much. I'm new to railfanning and your commentary added to the videos is very helpful as I learn the operations of trains.

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 3 года назад

Awesome, thank you!

@richardpowell7013 3 года назад

The more of these "INTERMODAL TRAINS" I watch the more I've noticed what a big part JB HUNT is with the use of trains! I drove for JB HUNT for 25years and just recently retired. Your videos are exceptional and appreciate you sharing them! Keep up the good work my friend! I'm enjoying these from the 1st state of Delaware.

@lonesomepine3 5 лет назад

Awesome video, thanks for sharing

@IchimokuCloud 5 лет назад

Subscribed, as I find the viewing of these videos to be very relaxing. Mind off for a few minutes watching trains roll by. Its a great series, keep it up.

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 5 лет назад

Glad you enjoyed it, John!

@clevelandmaker386 5 лет назад

@@ThornappleRiverRailSeries great video.....it was nice to see a warbonnet again.....that was what I was raised on! and that kid at the station is hooked! he'll have his first layout by Christmas!

@bobpaulino4714 2 года назад

Some folks don't get it. My dad was raised in a railroad and harbor town In northeast Ohio. Grandpa was a prosecutor and then was elected judge. He and grandma, who was a nurse, knew everyone in town. For entertainment when we'd visit. My cousin's and I would get to go to one of the beaches, to Point Park, where the sailors families would gather to watch the tugs assist the arriving and departing ships, or to one of several railroading areas. A neighbor who had been with the railroad 'for ever' Used to take us up into the interlocking towers, to the shops, the train and yard masters offices, and even on to the locos and cabooses. I remember being in the interlocking where the harbor lines crossed the old water level route. The tower would shake and the windows would rattle when a train came by at speed or when a coal or ore drag came clawing up the harbor feed.

@iceclimberGD 5 лет назад

Fantastic work!! This makes me want to visit La Plata!

@lloydgrisham8821 5 лет назад

Great video!!! Your narration is so weii done. Enjoyable and informative. Thanks!!

@billsellman6675 5 лет назад

Thank you Alex. Great video.

@jbdbackfan 4 года назад

Alex, fantastic work and great video. Hoping to see more BNSF from you in 2020!

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 4 года назад

I have the BNSF Chicago Sub - aka the Racetrack - about 70% shot. Need everything east of Riverside still. Likely will be shooting that in March if the weather is good, or early May if not. Then sometime after that, it'll be the next Superhighway installment.

@ViewpointUnique 5 лет назад

Good job as always! That open gondola that was kicking and bucking around (2nd to last car) at 5:49 was an interesting sight.

@jefhuber 5 лет назад

I noticed that too.

@samsmith3025 5 лет назад

@@jefhuber Me too, I wonder what causes it, bad suspension?

@thebusterdog6358 5 лет назад

When you watch the web cams you get a feel for the sites but not much of any real RR talk. Seems all they talk about is food, what ales them or about the the personalitys at the station etc. You're always so concise, giving a brief description and history of the area etc. Good job as usual.

@Crookedriverandeasternrr 5 лет назад

Awesome video. Cool intermodal trains. Thanks for sharing. I liked and subbed. 👍

@jackkilleen47 5 лет назад

9:42 That Horn On 5710 Sounds Fantastic!!

@AllanLoveJr 5 лет назад

Damn good fantastic video. Love that BNSF Railway.

@donhunking2286 2 года назад

Once again , we love the way you shoot a train . Good approaching power shot , brief shot of consist coming & going , and good end of train shot . Perfect technique. Lots of meets , crossovers , and signal knockdown shots . Ever consider using the drone at meets just about 30 to 40 feet up , and out ??? . That way one train won't block view of the other as they pass each other . We really like your commentary too .very professionally done . My group all agrees , this was one of the best videos out there . We look forward to many more .👍

@TheNomadicRailfan 5 лет назад

Well done, Alex, excellent video.

@johnmacqueen1777 Год назад

Another great video. You do amazing work and I appreciate the limited use of the drone. They do offer some unique perspectives but as an old school photographer, I really tire of many of the contemporary stuff that loses the real perspective. Your stuff is incredibly well done. I have lived in Michigan, Wyoming, and Minnesota, railfanned in all those areas and was a train dispatcher for part of my career. Your videos bring back a lot of memories of places I've been or worked as well as suggestions for some trips now that I've retired.

@juracigomes7086 4 года назад

Amo muito esses vídeos sou apaixonada por trens todos os dias não me canso de ver parabéns pelos vídeos amo

@rimodeler7963 5 лет назад

Enjoyed the video very much. Excellent job of filming and narrating this footage .......... top notch! Thank you for all the time and effort you put into creating these splendid videos. Mike

@ohgary 5 лет назад

RImodeler79 A real human narrator! Don't see that much anymore.

@davemick8620 5 лет назад

Great Video, thanks.

@jaredklock8754 5 лет назад

Man in La Plata when the SWC arrived it looked like it was on time for once.

@ml2611 3 года назад

Great video! But I wish you would have included footage from the bridge crossing at Dumas, MO just west of where you shot the last crossing in Iowa. It is very rural and a bit of a challenge to reach, but would have made for some great footage from either direction. In addition, both rails pass over an arched tunnel down below that is barely wide enough for a pick up truck to go through. It is dark and made of brick and kids love to honk the horn when going through. Footage from the Highway C bridge at Revere, MO just west of Dumas is also a great spotting location. If you get back this way, check it out. Keokuk, Iowa also has a swing bridge for both autos and trains. Not in use anymore for autos but still used by locomotives.

@thomaspalmer1019 5 лет назад

Superb video!

@MrAnthony551 5 лет назад

I love your channel and the voiceovers too. I work for the Buckingham Branch Railroad as a freight conductor. If you could get yourself(es) over to Central Virginia, you could see us working. We are a Class-111

@hikingmansteve 5 лет назад

Well done. I really enjoy your videos. Steve R.

@carytodd7211 4 года назад

Great railroad videos!

@eclair9 5 лет назад

This was / is excellent!!!

@samuelmears7660 5 лет назад

9:50 was awesome!!!

@barryparker9630 5 лет назад

Awesome job.

@davepike1220 5 лет назад

Very, very well narrated.

@admydragon 5 лет назад

What is it with SD70's being changed out on the Transcons? Ha, saw an SD70ACe parked on the rip track at Shabbona, IL on the northern transcon/C&I this summer.....train in the siding was some landbarge manifest with fakebonnets pumpkins and the last C40-9 on NS. Fun times... Great video, just got back from shooting the southern transcon...shot around the shared section between CA and WB junctions, Marceline proper, as well as the intermediate signal bridges at Marceline and Bucklin, MO.

@terrypbug 5 лет назад

Nicely done

@rongeorge2179 5 лет назад

really great video

@irongoatrocky2343 5 лет назад

11:48, 14:33 "Chief Coming!.....Big Silver Chief!" 19:39 it may be a short manifest but those coils are a heavy load! 39:07 side outs are a good time for operators in the lead unit to go to the 2nd unit to drop the duce!

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 5 лет назад

No dookie in the lead unit...unless you're approaching a terminal for hand-off and you don't like the next crew base!

@mohamedroman7861 2 года назад

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@landynnathan7430 2 года назад

@Mohamed Roman Instablaster =)

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@mattanderson6336 2 года назад

18:30-Changing traction motor/wheel assemblies in the field. Did that on nearly a weekly basis working on a mechanical crew out of Gillette Wyoming.

@Roadhogg24 5 лет назад

Outstanding! As usual! Everything about your video production is stellar! Best RU-vid rail channel! Thanks Alex

@samhankinson1353 5 лет назад

Great video!

@nurailfan1509 5 лет назад

Awesome videos, I really enjoy the maps with description. Please consider adding your video locations to the maps. It would add another dimension to the presentation. Wishing you continued success!

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 5 лет назад

I've considered but it ends up cluttering the maps.

@truckinchihuahuaalvieschre2494 5 лет назад

Just a little extra info for you all. At 14:10 they start the Marceline section but approx 7 million before it goes with in 500yds of my house in Bucklin, MO as it crosses the old Burlington Northern rte (now the same company BNSF) that takes a slightly different route threw Missouri from Chicago to Kansas City via Quincy, IL and actually comes together just west of a small town of Orrick, MO. Us locals still call the line in this video the Santa Fe and the other line the Burlington Northern to keep them straight.

@TheMetGuy Год назад

The passenger train that runs on this line is Amtrak's Southwest Chief which runs from Chicago to Los Angeles The eastbound #4 runs in the morning and the westbound #3 runs in the evening every year around

@timdodge7845 Год назад

Nice information and nice areal footage at 37:50

@ranggaagussaatmaja1304 2 года назад

Nice video brother 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

@TireFill 5 лет назад

Splendid video, great recordings. I'm a train driver myself (passengers) in Europe, but man the usage of the horns is what always suprises me 😂 Would be so not done here especially in basically all well populated area's.

@davidfuller581 5 лет назад

The reason that's done here is because rail lines intersect roads a *lot* - and by default, the engineer is required by law to blow the horn at rail crossings.

@TireFill 5 лет назад

@@davidfuller581 thanks for your answer. Makes sense! We have many crossings here as well, but oficially we only have to test them once every 24hrs, and use them when necessary.

@ohgary 5 лет назад

David Fuller and drivers here have an unfortunate habit of ignoring the flashing lights and driving in front of oncoming trains, even when in well populated area's. But in La Plata one has a high number of trains per day so lots of horns.

@centralohiorailfan 5 лет назад

Nice Video!!! Every train pretty much has a gevo on it I wish bnsf got more Emd!!!

@johnpapp92 3 года назад

Did you see that gondola with hunting oscillation at 5:46

@TheRustyRailz 5 лет назад

Awesome video. can't wait to watch Maria's Pass. The only complaint I have is I would have liked to have known the train symbols, as I'm not very familiar with BNSF and UP trains. Would love to see you cover the NS Pittsburgh line including Horseshoe Curve.

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 5 лет назад

Train symbols are almost impossible on BNSF and UP because they really aren't ever used on the radio or anything.

@EntertainmentWorldz 5 лет назад

nice video

@gunnyu.s.m.c8606 5 лет назад

my compliments sir

@nocoaviation8353 5 лет назад

If you ever get to Colorado you should do the Union Pacific Greeley Subdivision

@J3scribe 5 лет назад

Another fine presentation Alex! Would love to see you employ your drone more, such as at out of the way spots like bridges. Speaking of bridges, BNSF is planning the construction of a second Missouri River bridge at Sibley. I haven't been able to find any recent updates on it though. Something to look out for.

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 5 лет назад

On this trip, it was pretty windy both days, which prevented flying the drone. I would have gotten much closer to the bridge at Sibley, but flying from the south shore with a stiff 15 MPH South wind, with a drone only capable of going 30 MPH airspeed, was risky. Didn't want to lose it in the Missouri!

@J3scribe 5 лет назад

Totally understandable.

@donhunking2286 2 года назад

Anything happening on that new bridge yet ???

@WideWorldofTrains 5 лет назад

Very cool presentation, great work

@cameronhaake3838 2 месяца назад

I would love to see if you could cover the Union Pacific line between Kansas City and St. Louis I’ve get lots of variety of different trains but also gave a large number of intermodal trains

@evandrorobertosperi4889 5 лет назад

Ótimo vídeo, ganhou mais um inscrito

@taslimchaudhary2541 5 лет назад

Great Video 🇮🇳

@jamesburnside3023 5 лет назад

Well done

@joshuatoro8977 3 года назад

Do you have any good videos of grain facilities with the trains switching and doing what they do there

@TNRailProductions_01 4 года назад

This is a very great video! I'm positive that you could make this a DVD and make lots of money

@spaceghost8995 4 года назад

No one buys DVDs anymore dude.

@IceWolf1102 2 года назад

@@spaceghost8995 Bluray then

@cheeze5875 5 лет назад

5:45 holy Crap ive never seen a car hunt so much.

@donaldthomas7070 4 года назад

I thought for a moment it was going to derail.

@sd8313 4 года назад

Donald Thomas same, it was scary

@luthfieyudhairawan3883 4 года назад

those two? well those are jack and kevin. i named them. 😂

@Tiffy552 5 лет назад

Look at the wagon 2nd from last at 5.48 what a dangerous state, derail must be a strong possibility.

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 5 лет назад

Tony Greenhill as bad as it looks it’s still fairly safe. Not that it shouldn’t be changed out, but the overall risk is still limited.

@GAMEOFDRONES1 4 года назад

Flat Steel tire , obround wheel

@rafaelfernandez8311 3 года назад

Muy bien relatado e interesante. Me gusto mucho ver la " high way" de los ferrocarriles. Buen trabajo Gracias

@alexanderreno86 5 лет назад

Could you please do the BNSF St. Joseph Subdivision?

@stevekalis139 3 года назад

Check out the wobble on that gondola second from last car at 5:45

@terryambrose6260 4 года назад

Another addicting video! Had to watch it all. Questions: When a train has multiple engines are there people in each one? What determines the number of engines? Total weight? Number of cars? When there are engines at both ends (or even in the middle sometimes) are they all running? How often do they need refueling? Are all the engines controlled from 1 place?

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 4 года назад

1. Nope only an engineer and conductor in the lead locomotive 2. Weight and the ruling (steepest) grade on the route 3. Typically, yes. Sometimes one or more are shutdown and just in transit to someplace else, or are only needed on portions of the route with the big hills and are shut down when not really needed to save fuel 4. Refuel distance varies, but at least several hundred miles 5. The locomotives are all controlled from the lead locomotive by the engineer. Locomotives up front are all wired together, and ones placed further back are controlled via radio

@Beargizmo3 3 года назад

Great questions, most of which I had at some point!

@butchknouse8316 5 лет назад

Has the Emporia Subdivision been double tracked from KC to Emporia?

@TheJaernvaeg 5 лет назад

5:48 In Germany railroaders have to call in an emergency call and call the train for an immediate stop, if we spot a car shaking this heavy. Jeez, a miracle this car didn't derail...

@markhayes6407 5 лет назад

another great capture of the Marceline sub. I just wish youtube would of kept the advertisements to a minimum.

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 5 лет назад

Hi Mark - glad you enjoyed it! RU-vid runs ads essentially at my permission - there would be no ads if I weren’t in the partnership program. So you can blame me. However, please consider that the revenue is what makes these videos possible - not just here but on most channels on this website. Your only cost is a few minutes of your time - and you get unlimited free content. I hope you understand - it’s a great system that works for everybody!

@markhayes6407 5 лет назад

That is why I gave up TV completely because there it is much worse. Keep posting trains for me because it is a big LIKE!

@tonyordaziii7250 4 года назад

Can you do BNSF Needles Subdivision

@denisetindall1487 2 года назад

I like train videos on RU-vid 👍

@michaeljudge860 10 месяцев назад

Interesting to see the CIT 3088. Would you happen to know what CIT stands for?

@seekingtko3146 4 года назад

enjoyable

@dingo8babym20 3 года назад

That Norborne 'land barge' had 200 - plus change - cars( I counted). It took rt at 2 minutes to pass. How could it be 14,000' long? By my math it would be travelling 80 mph. Track speed? Love the vids

@newwomyn 4 года назад

The icon is a Timken 6 1/2X12 F Class 100 ton tapered roller bearing. The parts shown is the end cap, locking plate, and end cap bolts which are torqued to 425 foot pounds.

@BNSFFur 5 лет назад

You should railfan Springfield MO

@pseudosystematic 5 лет назад

yep I do know the symbols. John Carr has a web site that is very informative. you should check it out.

@Rich206L 5 лет назад

Alex, what part of railroading do you plan to try and get into when you finish school? Rich

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 5 лет назад

Rich206L Operations/Engineering.

@unclespongehead 5 лет назад

Goose bumps... Comment at about the 1:00 mark.

@MrSheed92 5 лет назад

Are there plans to potentially add another track segment to the Sibley bridge?

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 5 лет назад

Probably not in the next decade - it’d be a huge bridge as you can see and it doesn’t cause too many problems yet.

@philiproseel3506 4 года назад

Rock me Mama like the wind and the rain, Rock me Mama like a south-bound train...

@briansquibb999 4 года назад

May I ask a dumb question; why are some units facing forward and some face to the rear behind the lead power unit?

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 4 года назад

Mostly because it doesn't matter which way the trailing units are facing. The traction motors work equally well in both directions. The lead unit of course is faced forward to maximize crew visibility.

@butchknouse8316 5 лет назад

Does the Southern Transcon run through Emporia, Kansas?

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 5 лет назад

Yes

@johnjr.goldsberry1094 4 года назад

I live in Fort Madison and we get about 125-175 trains a day.

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 4 года назад

That's a bit of an overestimate! About 60-80 is more like it.

@johnjr.goldsberry1094 4 года назад

@@ThornappleRiverRailSeries it depends on the day I still talk to the guys I made friends with when I drove cab for the railroad and they still say its about 125 to 175 just depends on the day and from where i live you can here the horns of the trains, when it gets warmer I will go and count and see actually how many go through Fort Madison.

@frostgfx 5 лет назад

Did anyone notice at 1.35 the guy with no arms or legs in the water??? I think his name is Bob! LOL

@southwestohiorails4645 5 лет назад

What road were you on in Gorin, Missouri? I am going to visit there this summer.

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 5 лет назад

Look it up on Google Maps - it's the crossing right in "downtown" in the middle of the huge S-curve. Can't miss it!

@southwestohiorails4645 5 лет назад

@@ThornappleRiverRailSeries ok thank you I did. Cant wait to shoot that curve

@cowperson4763 5 лет назад

I really like this video. I just with youtube would stop showing ads. Nobody wants to see them. They want to enjoy watching the video.

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 5 лет назад

A large share of the ad revenue goes to those of us who create the videos. With this income stream, these videos would simply not exist - at least in this quality and form.

@devtrash 4 года назад

how long does a 14000 foot train have to stop at that speed?

@ThornappleRiverRailSeries 4 года назад

Not much longer than a normal train of lesser length. Still has the same brake shoes on every car, so braking effort per ton is roughly the same.

@user-bl6hg9ql3j 3 года назад

This is my first comment. I'm sorry that I's not good at English.I thought it was very cool even on railways in other countries.Is push-pull freight transportation common on that railroad?