Bo is the newest to English and yet he's talking the most, shotcalling, giving info and not getting mad when his teammates go against his calls. He is hardstuck in this team. His support doesn't say a word. He's a good player he deserves better. He even said its his bad when it really wasn't
I'm fucking wheezing :D He probably doesn't have any of them added in League, or anywhere else, and he also locks his doors up in the dorm. Dude's a weirdo for sure.
when the dude speaking the least english has to make every fucking call because 3 of his teammates are just completely indecisive and passive. Seriously Bo and Upset are in jail again on this team.
@@heri2274 I mean Upset wanted to fight because Saken said "no tp no tp no tp", so in the end its partially on upset for challenging another call when Bo already acted on his call (hopping on herald) and then its also very much on Saken for providing false info which resulted in a would be 5v4 turning into a 4v4 which turned into a 5v5
You can just tell Bo feels like he is in Elo Hell. Going silent after dying in team fights because you feel like it is doomed if you are not alive in the fight. When he is calling, he is always trying to push the team forward like he feels like he needs to lead them otherwise they will not do anything. Then later, when they are not listening to his comms, he starts to use "maybe" and "okay?" for his requests as if he already knows they won't listen to him half the time. Anyway, enough psychoanalysis Bo Pov catDespair.
The comms does put Bo in a different light, but when you die you should be shotcalling even more. You are not "playing" anymore you can see and think on more things.
@@nunosantos4217 You expect a player from another nation who don’t speak English fluently to shot call immediately when he die? And not to mention the team doesn’t even listen to this man so what can you expect him to do? And even if he keep calling out there aren’t gonna change anything huge different beside call out flash or cool down. In fact you still flaming Bo is insane
Bo is the only one who really cares about the win. Look at him not only shoot calling but also navigate his teammates even with language barrier. True champ respect 🥶💀
@@maxisiener1324 The best part is that Upset didn't even ask if Akali had tp at first. If you rewatch, Cabo says Akali top, then Saken first says "No TP, yes, she has no TP 100% ". Only then does Upset ask if Akali has TP, not even because he's looking for a fight initially but because he's surprised that Akali doesn't have TP as Saken is saying that she 100% doesn't have TP. Then Saken responds by saying "No TP" 3 times, and only then does Upset start moving to the dragon; Upset was actually the first one to push mid and wanting to hit mid turret (which is the correct call if Akali has TP), and then starts moving to the dragon late (which is the correct call if Akali has no TP). Even though everyone was late to the play, it still would have ended incredibly positive for KC if Akali didn't have TP.
Bo is an insanely skilled player, just watch any of his streams for 2 or 3 games. He's top tier with a great career ahead of him. Hope he gets team mates worth his talent someday.
A great career in front of him? Yeah how about no? He got benched from the LPL because of match fixing, then he spent a year not playing because of Visa. And when he finally got to try his hand at Europe his first team crashed and burned in spectacular fashion, and now he's stuck on a bottom tier team with players who have been playing with english comms for twice as long as he has yet can't formulate a single word right because french people can't for the life of them speak english. And then you have Targamas who's putting us belgians to shame by equally terrible and not communicating at all. Like sure, Bo probably has potential for a great career but so far it's been a shitshow.
@@markopusic8258 do you understand what „in front of him“ means? He is saying that he has a career ahead of him(its referring to the future and not past). You are talking about the past, then at the end you say he has potential for a great career which is agreeing with original comment
@@ThisMusicIsToogood Its called Irony. Irony because the only call he makes is about the enemy trolling when we all know who the biggest troll in the LEC is (spoiler: Targashit)
@@justinroy6769delusional LEC pup, Bo is better than any of your junglers. If he has garbage for teammates, esp Trashamas, he can’t do shit. Doggy silver take
I think its a good thing, they should adapt to Bo playstyle and play a more "lpl" game, instead of doing vitality mistake and forcing bo to adapt to european playstyle. If Bo talk that much it's because he want to show them how he sees the game.
@@_Benic_ unfortunately, they will never will after the past 6 games. only upset is and cabo is somewhat trying. shaken and targamas just do the complete opposite of bo's calls, and also does misleading calls themselves. i just dont think they can adapt at all. if bo is forced to adapt the eu style, this region will forever be doomed
@@_Benic_ LPL playstyle consists of very aggressive skirmish calls, dives included, that requires hands. Don't expect EU and NA teams to have hands like the LPL and LCK players lmao. Just watch any BLG game this season, especially Elk and ON and u'll see how hard they will just beat EU and NA with hands alone.
@@quanganhbui1044 but the thing is they should be trying that, look at mad Lions they try to play aggressive and they win some and lose some, but thats better than losing amd feeling u arent playing the game
@@marcelo789tx5 they are not doing that and already losing due to hand diff from lane. Cabo and Targamas are basically worst laners of their roles. Saken made Azir Akali looks Akali favoured. Bo is still agressive, or was, before he started doubting his team.
the worst part is the fake information and not listening to one call in the first initial games later part of the games bo has all the comms, but the team doesnt listen
always reminds me of DoinB..he just spammed summs timers in chat non-stop - instantly tracked, always visible to all members instantly - all good teams have a guy tracking it ..imagine not tracking summs properly in a pro game in 2024, how dysfunctional are their comms and basic team play - this isn't the only time either 'akali no flash' when akali was running ignite/tp... this is basic shit
@@johnkirk1772 yeah, some thing I learned from DoinB was the moment he just saw someone flash he pressed enter+random key+enter to get a timestamp in chat, then later he could calculate it to the second and type the complete line in chat. That's genius, tbh, instead of trying to remember the second or eyeballing how many have passed since the player flashed, leaving a mark in chat that takes him 300ms to input.
At this point I dont even care about his gameplay, watching Bo trying his best to lead the team even with language barrier makes him such an inspiring player in my eyes
2:15 Upset wants to fight the drake because Saken says Akali doesn't have TP (she does), Saken baited them hard there (don't even look a targamas) it's quite horrible
I have no clue why some of these european players having a hard time speaking in english when it should be more easier for them than a chinese player. If you study linguistics you understand what I am talking about.
@@shanks2058 it is also a language problem to be fair, sakens accent is incredibly thick and I can still understand him but that might pose an additional challenge for bo whos still learning
Accent is only problem for you or others watching kc media videos not Bo. While you spend time around someone more you get used to accent and they are teammates or very least colleagues... Much bigger problem is lack of communication and not knowing how to communicate more effectively and that has nothing to do with an accent.@@filililililililililililipo4493
feel so bad for Bo, he's solo carrying comms and making right calls but he got unlucky with smite... he's the first one to say "my bad" after that first loss aswell, Bo deserves better
- One member is eftectively mute. - The non-European speaking the most. - Teammates giving wrong information (saying no ult when there's ult, saying no tp when there's tp). - Not following up on shot calls. - Not questioning questionable shotcalls (except Upset). - A member asks good questions but no one answers. They are so disjointed. It wouldn't be a surprise to me if they don't trust each other anymore. This isn't even touhing upon their macro/map movements and vision controls. They already have a lot of problems in communication alone. And maybe it's just me, but I can't understand what Cabo and Saken are saying. Gotta hand it to Bo for having the 'cleanest' comms and for being able to discern what Cabo and Saken are saying.
Bo's situation reminds me so much of Jankos', this shit hurts to watch. Bo deserves better, especially how ppl blame him online but you can see he tries so hard in the comms
I think KC releasing the comms is so that when they replace everyone but Bo and Upset the fans can't come for blood because they'll just be like, "Look, here's all the proof you need about how they played the game. We can't win with that."
ye kinda crazy, I didnt think that speaking english would be an issue, but apparently it is, top mid and sup are so used to have coms in french, and now they are turbo lost when coms are in english. You either go full french team but then your chance at succeeding wont be that great, or dont care about nationality and get players like trymbi/Finn for example.
Like i dont think Bo played patriculary brilliant. But after seeing this i really cant blame him for anything. He is trying his hardest but Targamas is just a joke of a support and Saken and Cabo are not really contributing much. Upset is asking good questions but no one awnsers him...
@@johnkirk1772 It's no good though in fact it's worst it's one thing to say don't know at last they will be ready if she does tp in but to confidently communicate No TP NO TP so they are reassured to go in thinking 5v4 only to see her TP ing in and killing them mid battle. Saken or should I say Shaken shouldn't be LEC midlaner if he can't even recall whether his lane opponent has summoners left or not.
if anyone has the take that bo is the problem in that team he has no eyes. Its quite obvius that they are just bad as a team, Targamas while he has hands just doesnt listen to shit and doesnt call out shit himself. Saken does wrong calls and is way to passive. Cabochard idk is just straight up worse then the other Toplaners and Upset sits there flabbergasted.
@@clappedbyben5438 not flabbergasted he is internally tilted to hell and back cuz his support is absolute imposter. Like they will be getting dove and the only communication that happens is "guess you are dead" "yep"
@@clappedbyben5438watching lec i was like what is bo doing? Why he is not eith the team? What are thise decissions but after the voice comms everything changes haha targamas with an engage suport not talking is really depressing
10:23 That was the call that lost them the tempo and set them back in the game. Bo was calling to get bot(which caedrel said in previous video that it was the right call), but I think cabo and saken was calling for TP top?
Now it makes sense why yamato glaze Bo so hard. It wouldn't surprise me if Yamato is the one calling to release the voice coms. Cabo and targamas need to go.
Mostly Targa. If you want to kick someone else it should be Saken I think. Depends on how much potential you see in him. But considering that Jackies wasn't even in a major league before, he performs so much better than him. So being a rookie is not enough of an excuse I feel like. There is a chance he has a glow up like oscarinin later in the year though.
Flashbacks when Jankos was in similar position - trying his best, but the team couldn't work together. Targa being silent is so triggering, I hope they search for a different player
I really seems like hitboxes are against Bo. Like Xin got knocked into Baron so his smite hit Xin instead of Baron. Then the Sera ult hitbox tagged when you'd think he dodged it. The maokai hit box was also weird because even withTargamas getting rooted, somehow Bo still got hit with another root.
@@wedmunds nope he buffers the second one if you count from the bottom but Bo gets hit by the first one, Targamas did nothing wrong there its just visually confusing.
@@clappedbyben5438he still played it wrong because he didn't comm to his team that was his intention, how the fuck are they meant to know he's going to do that? Especially after how shit he's been you'd have 0 confidence in him even doing it.
@@Providenzaevery single one of them clumped on the line of the second one it’s just that the Hitbox doesn’t match with the visuals and Bo got hit by something that visually shouldn’t have been hitting him.
@@Providenza That play in particular was correct. It was clear that everyone was lining up behind the one he buffed dash on. Bo got tagged by the outside root because of weird hitboxes from lane to river. Exact same thing would've happened if he stood still and got hit by the root.
not to go on targamas' side he played dogsht overall but he did play that rell buffer well, he buffered and would have had the chance to re engage but riot's sphagetti of a code called league has some janky hitbox and/or animations
That’s purely on maokai hitbox, he has 2 other players standing behind him who were unaffected. Say what you will about him, but that bit was not his fault.
@@gellertszabo4697 idk what u mean with "higher% play" bc if u mean that its the higher% vhance of execution then yes there is nothing easier than eating up a cc but if you mean that higher% okay means it gives the higher chance of winning then the buffer was a fine play do you really think that a 4v5 50/50 is better than a proper teamfight? plus the fact that the maokai ult was the main culprit here would he be able to prevent the jank hitbox?
Ngl Bo reminds me a little bit of Razork beginning of 2023. U had a completely clueless team with shit ass botlane, and inting solo lanes. In this scenarios. i remember fnatic voice comms and razork calling everything and try to force something out of nowhere. After all of this I remember some fnatic fans (me included) being really harsh on him when in fact, he was trying to pull the car from his clueless teammates. Tbh Targamas and Cabochard are sooo far away from all the hype and expectations everyone had from them, not LEC level at all
I really hope more people realize bo is most certainly not the issue. You can see he tries everything he can in the most polite way possible and doesn't get upset when his team absolutely ignores him. I hope they can fix this before spring split... or he can find a different team at the end of the year
I think the old KC was just full solo Q mode. Just play for kills and say "he's trolling" when someone is caught or just say "go objective" when they spawn. Because that's the only thing these 3 players are saying, 0 micro comms in fights
idk how caedrel cannot grasp the concept that rell shouldnt be trying to buffer it in the first place against an ahri, just sit infront of your carries tank the charm and die for them the buggy maokai shitbox doesnt matter at all in this case
I think it is fair to blame targamas for a lot of mistakes he made but letting himself getting oneshot there or letting himself getting oneshot anytime is never the right play this is lec everybody should be able to dodge an ahri e with flash up which both carries had in that moment
@@hezuma5193Bro what are you smoking he was rooted by Maokai ult which Targamas tried to buffer for some inane reason. The OP is right, why are we even trying to buffer a CC as the only tank of the team? And straight back into his own team at that, absolutely piss useless
Was kinda excited that bo and nisqy would be on the same team when they were shit posting each other on Twitter. Since nisqy expressed his play style is inspired by doinb, he would've been the perfect lec mid laner for bo. Can't wait to see trymbi on this team.
everyone calling out bo for being bad and having a language barrier but he is the one talking the most and making the useful calls and at least trying to guide this sinking ship of a "team"
Despite them losing lane sometimes early in the game, top mid is not the problem. Botlane seems super dizzy all the time and without any synergy. I think shot calling neglects Upset's job in the fights a bit and he is not the one that talks much either but at least he still does his job halfway decently. But Targamas unfortunately blunders all the time on top of zero communication. That is rough to watch
I actually feel for Bo and Upset. Bo when we have no coms looks like a total inter, but man he learned English like a year ago and has to speak the most. Upset is speaking way too much but has to make it up for his mute ass support and midlaner that gives info like a bronze player... not to mention an afk top laner holy
like even if targamas did buffer maokai ulti properly there was rly no reason to??? he tanks and if they engage on him kc just wins the fight y is he even wasting w like tat away from his team
@@void4713 in what universe would you call that blocking? he should be standing in between his teammates and the ult and be willing to be late/miss the buffer timing
1:00 Upset is askin "can we go on them" while Seraphine and Senna stand on top of eachother and in Rakan Flash W Rang and in Azir Shuffle Range. Why is nobody doin anything? The fights are horrible to watch. After that Rakan Flash engages at the moment who literally nobody can follow. Next Dragon Fight Bo said "give Drake" Drake is half life now Saken gives the the information "Akali no TP, 100% no TP" Upset says "wait Akali no TP lets fight for drake" and that would be the right call if Akalis TP would rlly be on CD but now BO is topside so they have no smite and the information is wrong. Like WTF??? And in every fight Targamas never says 1 single word about his engages.
Cut all small shit aside, if Saken was just more decisive this team probably wins 3-4 games no fucking lie. Brother letting Aatrox and Xin smother him because he thinks he might have a shurima shuffle chance.
Im not usually this angry at league anymore, but jesus christ in heaven you can't let a jungler do all the comms and he doesnt even get followed, like the herald play mid trading one Drake for double mid tower was super good intuition, and the fake info by the teammates is bad af, and i dont even talk about the fact that a support playing in a major league is the most silent one, literally he says care seraphine ult when sera already used it bro what game are you playing? This roaster can be so much better by replacing top mid supp with finn abbedagge and tryimbi, those 3 are insanely good all of them played in mid/top teams and performed so well, upset literally played with hylissang i mean THAT HYLI and they were best botlane for 2 years you give him trymbi they can be top 4 for sure, finn and abbe play good champs and cane be good weaksiders in certain games. Doing so ca lift bo from taking all the job and focus on his insane chinese mechanics, and i dont even know WHY THE FUCK is so hard for the other 3 french players to speak english properly: saken is not understandable and i have good english overall and targamas is a mime at this point, cabo has good english cause he used to play 2 years in EU LCS but cmon. If they get flamed and dont improve atleast the comms i think the mid supp guys deserve the flame
Okay here's what I think. Maybe they were assigned with something and Targamas' job was to keep track with enemies summs. I'm not defending anyone, it's just maybe there's more to this than what we're seeing here.
13:01 I like you enough to trust your judgement, but in this situation I really hope Targma would know how to spacing for his team. When they all bunch up like that, its very easy to mess up each others movement, as a sup you need to be able to see it and created enough room to block, especially when you play someone who has a dash that won't be stopped by root. All he needs to do was move away from the team then do the exact same thing!
Was laughing so hard for Bo weird playstyle but now makes completly sense...Targamas is so ass, he doesnt talk at all unless he wants to make bad calls
