Board the 241p17 locomotive between Paris and Le Creusot 

Bah plus tu met de technologie plus il y a des pannes généralement

Ça marche à la vapeur ? Nom de Zeus !

Et aucune électronique qui risque de lacher

Maglev is not a viable option, only 31 km for high speed in service in the world and I asume around 50 for low speed.

L'histoire d'une France où l'état poussait vers le haut son industrie vers l'excellence, pas comme les politiques qui la poussent vers le bas depuis 40 ans

U7

La même

5 reverse speeds and 1 forward?

Les vapeurs sont à l'électrique, ce qu'un homme qui court est à la voiture. On voit les muscles bouger, son souffle, ses efforts... la vie, comparé au reste sans saveur.

@@Fred-jh5we bien dit!

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I think the main problem is the coal, not the water. In a normal tender the main volume is taken by the water (about 35 tons) not the coal (8 tons). Today, without a dedicated infrastructure, it's easier to supply water than coal. So the train needs more a hopper than a tank.

The true genious french engineer was André Chapelon and his 242.A.1 model.

If you look at vids with UP X4014 you'll notice she appears allmost allways with 2 tenders. The first one in original colors, and the second one in UP yellow paint.

@@hgsert2733 Please do not forget Marc Seguin, this make at least 2 genious french steam engineers. Sans l'invention de Marc Seguin, le Chemin de Fer ne serait jamais devenu le vecteur de la révolution Industrielle. Mais je suis bien certain que quelqu'un d'autre aurait fini par trouver la solution.

@@phildur Indeed I have and #4014 has been seen with two of the yellow 'Turbine Tenders', originally from the UP Gas Turbine super locos of the seventies. I don't know what proportion of fuel - she runs on something close to 'Bunker C' that fuels Marine diesels - to water that rake of tenders provides, but her own tender (actually 3985's) has been converted to carry a lot more water and a quantity of fuel. This is so 4014 can move on her own without support vehicles, but I have definitely seen photographs of a road tanker filling one of her Turbine Tenders. We Europeans .are used to being able to score water from fire hydrants (via a fire engine) but coal has always been a problem. The 'grab hopper' is the perfect answer.

Tout de même, il n'y avait pas énormément de machines plus puissantes: les 240P et des protos: 242A1 et peut-être 232U1. 160A1 à vérifier (plus coupleuse et pas forcement plus puissante). En fait ça dépend du produit de la taille de la chaudière, du timbre et du diamètre des roues motrices.

Well of course most countries are going to have historical steam engines? What else ran on their centuries old rail networks?

I mean I thought France had cut up all their old engines or all were in museums I had not heard of many running unlike the uk and the USA I mean I know of Andre champlogn who was friends of livio Dante Porta who picked up where Andre left off in advanced steam locomotives but I don’t know much about steam in France so that’s why I had asked I just don’t hear about it

@@manga12 Yeah true, sorry I sounded a bit aggressive in my reply

@@quartersense its no big deal, really, its just as Livio Dante Porta used to say, you dont know what you dont know untill you do, that is to say a 7 year old dont know how to do algorithems they dont learn them till 7th grade but they dont know they are ignorant of that fact till they learn of them. I dont know about historical steam in france as I am not exposed to it, not really the forefront of train news here, heck I dont really know too much about steam operations in canada as for last I heard they would not allow mainline steam operations on canadian pacific, or canadian national as per their ceo's position on each, though I am sure there are scenic railroads and maybe regionals that do just like in the usa, but if it dont go on the newswire of trains magazines online page or railway age, I would not really know about it, though after a quick look it says this was one of the largest built in france this mountain class, the only one that was more powerful were the refits did by Msr Champalan, and those sadly were not saved

120km/h max.

Merci c'était pas mal pour l'époque.

@@chefchaudard3580 c est pas plutôt 140!?

@@jeanrassy1120 vitesse limitée à 120km/h en service. Ça correspond aux standards de l'époque. Elle a été conçue pour tirer des trains express lourds, pas pour battre des records de vitesse. A l'époque, peu de voitures pouvaient rouler lontemps à ces vitesses. Sans compter qu il n'y avait pas d'autoroute. Le train restait le moyen de transport le plus rapide pour la pluaprt des gens. C'est dans les années 50 que la sncf commence à se poser la question d'augmenter la vitesse des trains. D'abord 130km/h, puis 140 et 160, voire 200 fin des années 60.

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