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Boat Build: Carbon Chainplates! [E76] 

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There's a lot happening this week! We talk to Evan, the naval architect who has been so kind to help us with designing the chainplates and we get to start building the chainplates! This is a packed episode. Hope you enjoy!
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@paulstephens5229
@paulstephens5229 Год назад
I can tell you without fear of contradiction that we all love long episodes, chain plates looking very cool.
@Acrowat40
@Acrowat40 Год назад
Don't ever worry about making it too long!
@woodandwaveskayaks
@woodandwaveskayaks Год назад
Thats what she said
@d.j.vanderschoot3717
@d.j.vanderschoot3717 Год назад
Yes, don't worry about the length. Can't get enough of cool stuff like this. As a structural engineer I like the simple load path, no shear loads, no buckling, no overturning moments, just everything in tension, using the best property of the material, and no peak stress anywhere.
@devon4246
@devon4246 Год назад
Agreed don’t worry about making it to long love watching and seeing the transformation it’s awesome.
@liamclarke64
@liamclarke64 Год назад
Go on the principle of "you keep talking, we keep watching!!!
@SunshineSailing84
@SunshineSailing84 Год назад
We need a weekly 3-hour director’s cut!!
@shaggyduder
@shaggyduder Год назад
Are you kidding, the longer the video the better, they should all be 1 hour episodes, due to the topic, it's what most people want. I was GLUED to the episode.
@TheDuracellProject
@TheDuracellProject Год назад
Good one! Or…glood one😜
@rickcockcroft7590
@rickcockcroft7590 Год назад
I was upset it ended when it did , as this process was so fascinating. Enjoying the technical side of the build so much.
@TheErmerm999
@TheErmerm999 Год назад
that vacuum bag was a work of art in itself. Bravo
@brianmcguire5189
@brianmcguire5189 Год назад
First boat vlogger ive seen build carbon fiber chain plates! You are a pioneer to RU-vid Matt! Awesome job ✌️
@angela1984a
@angela1984a Год назад
I know of one more - youngbarnacles.
@susanKrose
@susanKrose Год назад
another one at @LivingontheOcean . Galvanic corrosion stainless/carbon?
@angela1984a
@angela1984a Год назад
@@susanKrose I'm just a layman, but yes - galvanic corrosion is apparently 'a concern' with regards to carbon fiber...
@carenclemmons5002
@carenclemmons5002 11 месяцев назад
@@angela1984a Matt has made accommodation for the galvanic/stainless issue by separating the two elements with fiberglass. Hope that works long time.
@stephenwhite4257
@stephenwhite4257 Месяц назад
Your fiberglassing and craftsman and design skills are amazing, but what impresses me the most is your patience. You get an idea,mock it up as many times as it takes to get the best design and then build what works best for you. Very impressive. Congratulations!
@williammuseler5542
@williammuseler5542 Год назад
Artistry combined with technical expertise, a joy to watch
@G4rt3nschl4uch
@G4rt3nschl4uch Год назад
There are a lot of boat projects and boat builder videos on youtube. Somehow you are the only one that manages in EVERY video to actually show progress instead of talking to the camera all night long and telling, what they did (hi MJ Sailing). Keep going Mad, i really admire your work here
@TheDuracellProject
@TheDuracellProject Год назад
I don’t think we are the only ones, but thanks😊
@Fr3DDy73
@Fr3DDy73 Год назад
this is just amazing. A long episode? When it ended i was just like: "doh, so fast?"
@nickviner1225
@nickviner1225 Год назад
Me too.
@bubbleobill267
@bubbleobill267 Год назад
Awesome start to your nuclear bomb proof chainplates. The best thing about composite chainplates is no leaks ever!.
@TheDuracellProject
@TheDuracellProject Год назад
Exactly
@neilrush659
@neilrush659 Год назад
Absolutely and utterly riveting, fascinating and incredible all rolled into this episode. The technical side of boat building is something I've never seen before, all those little things you see on boats and don't think of and the attention to detail. I'm literally in awe!! When this project is all done and Duracell is back in the water, no matter where you guys are, it is my dream to meet you and see this splendid boat in person. My wife has given the thumbs up to travel too 👍😊 In case I don't write for the next couple of weeks it's because I'm heading off a wee wild adventure of my own....anyhow wishing you well and sending good energy from the Emerald Isle...Neil ❤😊👍
@TheDuracellProject
@TheDuracellProject Год назад
Thanks for your kind words and have fun on your wee wild adventure!
@lpabildgaard
@lpabildgaard Год назад
Love how you rationalised the proces from the first chainplate.
@dawntreader7079
@dawntreader7079 Год назад
I was going to comment in the last video, but didn’t want to be the guy who recomends something you don’t plan to do. However, now that I see you’re building with carbon, I can speak freely. When I replaced the chainplates on my Cal39 (as well as the bulkheads) I was quoted a price for new steel, and it was steep. The boats I race on all had carbon fiber, so I went for it. With some help and advice on cloth, weaves and weights, I fabricated 6 plates and plates for the fore and backstays from carbon. Easy, fast, satisfying, and cheaper than steel. 3 years in, I am so glad I went with carbon. I did a vacuum layup, and polished them up shiny, they look pretty fresh down below.
@steveraleigh100
@steveraleigh100 Год назад
Fantastic eps. Yes, you never want exactly enough because you never know what the weather is going to throw at you. They are going to be magnificent.
@marcushatch5863
@marcushatch5863 Год назад
Good to have the safety factor and the engineering to back it up. 👍
@familyplummer725
@familyplummer725 Год назад
This is the first time I've seen a boatbuilder using carbon fiber. I assumed it was a whole 'nother skill set and used different resins, etc. But it seems it is the same as fiberglass, but with more expensive fiber. Same epoxy resin. Fascinating. Keep up the great work.
@Andrew-en1qx
@Andrew-en1qx Год назад
Im so glad you introduced Gilbert the boat inspector! It shows you have your priorities straight 👍
@SUDDSCREW
@SUDDSCREW Год назад
Man this project keeps getting better and better. Love the long video’s when needed. Love to hear story’s of your sailing adventures while you build your next adventure!
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 Год назад
Gilbert looks very qualified. 😘👌 Nice to see Duracell's inspector on the bow ensuring the work is correct 🤣 Great update 2x👍
@billwoolmer8495
@billwoolmer8495 Год назад
This is an amazing process. Makes me now appreciate when they built cars and yacht out of carbon fibre. Strong, light, and tedious !
@jamesazahn6842
@jamesazahn6842 Год назад
"Thanks" for sharing your knowledge on this most important safety and structural design of the rigging of your mask!
@gr8dane22
@gr8dane22 Год назад
Please dont hesitate to make the videos long, they are amazing. Keep up the great work, I'm learning so much!
@1nf1d31
@1nf1d31 Год назад
Never worry about overdoing something for strength, the more strong somthing is that is going to be holding not only the mast but also the wind, going overboard on layers is always a good thing for longevity! Grear work
@jadygascoigne8473
@jadygascoigne8473 Год назад
Longer vids!! More building! 😊 Carbon looks sick, see you guys next week 🎉
@Tomm9y
@Tomm9y Год назад
Great to see you include strong reliable technology with the guidance of Evan. I have seen synthetic standing rigging used on a similar boat. Whilst the weight savings were huge, a very reassuring element is the easy visual inspection both of the standing rigging and soft shackles. The soft shackles can be replaced whilst underway! I guess you already have stainless standing rigging for the new mast, but hope you can upgrade to synthetic rigging in the future, as a steadily developing technology there should be some manufacturers willing to support you. Even with an alloy mast, sythetic standing rigging could reduce the weigh by two thirds. The lower centre of gravity results in less pitching motion, less heel, so a faster boat, more responsive, better handling and response. Crucially for a cruising boat, less pitching means a more comfortable motion, less weight aloft means a wider range of wind speeds sails can be held at, so you have a less frequent sail changes / reefs. When sailing shorthanded that is really good for team energy. Lastly a sythetic rig is super quiet, soft shackles, don't rattle! So hopefully no off watches spent listening to rattle, creak, groan, etc! Even in broad daylight the peaceful transfer of power to speed is surreal.
@billywhizz6483
@billywhizz6483 Год назад
Fascinating to see this alternative to stainless steel chainplates.
@MrNatural
@MrNatural Год назад
Matt…..you are an incredible craftsman……Go Well
@liamclarke64
@liamclarke64 Год назад
So, yes, everyone was enthralled (rightly so) with the usual, masterful. precision craftmanship... But I have not seen one comment, yet, complimenting the choice of music. That music in the edit for the lay-up scene was perfect. You still hang in the background, as just the "voice". But we admire you and really appreciate you!!! Thank you!!!
@TheDuracellProject
@TheDuracellProject Год назад
Thanks Liam😊
@floathi
@floathi Год назад
Wow has technology done crazy leaps and bounds. Thanks for the show!
@MisterMakerNL
@MisterMakerNL Год назад
Damn as a mechanical engineer myself I onces looked into doing carbon fiber, but was scared about the complexity. I think they also put it in vacuum ovens, but I am amazed how good yours went and how sturdy it already looks!
@hughmaxwell8143
@hughmaxwell8143 Год назад
Thank you( lots) for your opening statement concerning the professional requirements needed to do (minor) stuff like chain plates, structural bulkheads, etc.. There are way too many amateurs teaching amateurs on these channels. I knew Mike Plant back in the day- we worked in the same building when he built Coyote. Safe to say he of all people would appreciate what you’re doing
@TheDuracellProject
@TheDuracellProject Год назад
that's awesome you knew Plant!
@neumeon6959
@neumeon6959 Год назад
Great tutorial on carbon chain plates! I wonder if your naval architect might remember designing a custom Farr 49 for the former King of Spain, Juan Carlos? Yeah, that guy. After passing into the hands of the US Navy, it went into private ownership and now I occasionally crew on it. Not sure if that was during your friends tenure at Farr or not but if so, it's probable he'd remember it. It's a great boat to sail on! Keep up the amazing work guys! I vote you are the most interesting boat project on RU-vid by Farr :-). Cheers!
@hexsailing49
@hexsailing49 Год назад
That was so cool guys ⛵⛵⛵⛵
@tobydunk4284
@tobydunk4284 Год назад
People may like the shininess of stainless steel but you cannot beat the pattern of carbon fibre 😍
@MaShcode
@MaShcode Год назад
Quite cool. Especially the peekaboo zoom kitty.
@victorsinclair3707
@victorsinclair3707 Год назад
One of those rare times when the content makes you remember the like button
@soanonso
@soanonso Год назад
Awesome progress. I enjoyed the interview with Evan as well!
@basilbrushbooshieboosh5302
@basilbrushbooshieboosh5302 Год назад
I know you said it's old-hat nowadays but hell this is all new to me. Great, thanks.
@motorcityboatwerks
@motorcityboatwerks Год назад
This is an interesting boat project. Great technical discussion and info. Some of the best yet 👍👍
@flossey100
@flossey100 Год назад
Very interesting explanation of the engineering as it doesn’t have the Bling factor but has the safety factor….❤❤❤
@stuartmckie5679
@stuartmckie5679 Год назад
Please don't worry about the length of your clips, they're very informative and the time flies by.
@gmanvaca8269
@gmanvaca8269 Год назад
Carbon cloth is such an amazing material 👍
@anthonyrondolino8148
@anthonyrondolino8148 Год назад
Very very cool! Don’t worry about the videos being too long……can’t happen. We are interested in your work as well as the explanations about why you do things the way you do.
@birddeprez
@birddeprez Год назад
Loved seeing the tech discussion in this episode. My wife and I own a 1995 Hunter 430, and our chainplates are the same design. Ours are fully fiberglass though, no carbon fiber. Everyone we've ever talked too has no idea what to make of them. I think it's a great design, maybe not the best execution. Unfortunately Hunter fully fiberglassed the pin in, leaving it unserviceable. Now almost 30 years later, we know we're going to have to find a way to take a look at it soon though.
@Edivision
@Edivision Год назад
Long episodes are good episodes.
@gl2856
@gl2856 Год назад
Can’t have too longer episode, this was awesome, well done 👍
@getz721
@getz721 Год назад
I originally thought when you were putting them on the hull that you were glassing them in and I was very confused because you were putting peel ply on both sides. Now I see that you have many layers to put on, but because the the chain plates now have the shape of the hull you can add the other layers in the shop. Thank you for explaining your process so thoroughly and bringing us along for the ride
@erictakakjian6021
@erictakakjian6021 Год назад
Awesome job on the chainplates!! Those will be incredibly strong, look forward to seeing you laminate them to the hull.
@tommcintyre5608
@tommcintyre5608 Год назад
I like the montage around the 10:15 mark. The background music and cutting tool as lead guitar. Love carbon components, keep them coming.
@IsaMichas-gf6kq
@IsaMichas-gf6kq Год назад
We used uni directional s glass in our projects wrapped around a machined stainless steel thimble.the unidirectional was fanned onto both the inner and outer skin with power patches on both sides The engineers main concern was a shear component at the attachment point.We did modest tests at the University lab and it took 24000 pounds for the thimble to shear through the laminate.the thimble was only half filled with s glass for this test .
@seanmccormackmccormack9317
@seanmccormackmccormack9317 Год назад
No questions! Well done 👏 ✔️
@SuperPancake06
@SuperPancake06 Год назад
This is super cool, and great work! I've never seen a carbon fiber chainplate. The whole boat will be able to go through an MRI machine when you're done.
@MegaVinny73
@MegaVinny73 Год назад
Great episode as longer and showed more of the effort and work. Keep them coming at 30mins or more...
@peterbeyer5755
@peterbeyer5755 Год назад
Gotta love that multi tool.
@NICOLAS25478
@NICOLAS25478 21 день назад
Great Episode, i came back to look for it as I'm planing to do something similar on my 9 m Half Tonner. I agree with the whole technique, also the isolation of the stainless. Great Job!
@PeterKNoone
@PeterKNoone Год назад
Super cool. I could watch you laminate carbon all day.
@russelllockrey
@russelllockrey Год назад
Love the longer episode. Boats looking good!
@michaeldruce9930
@michaeldruce9930 Год назад
wow. this process is amazing! More long videos please.
@helenrob2961
@helenrob2961 Год назад
Man am i glad you said final product would be 36 layers when you peeled it off the hull it wasnt confidence inspiring lol. Then again im prob showing my age and stuck with the stainless. Impressed with all the work so far great job .
@chemon0
@chemon0 Год назад
What crazy work! I admire what you do
@wallacegrommet9343
@wallacegrommet9343 Год назад
Momentary transient loads can greatly exceed the breaking strength of composite structures without damage or failure. Your excess strength factor is overkill, essentially. But, it’s your baby!
@RobHealey
@RobHealey Год назад
A very interesting episode.Thanks for the clips where Evan explains, that has answered a lot of questions for me. The Hull to Carbon join will be the crucial part now.
@manfredschmalbach9023
@manfredschmalbach9023 Год назад
Very nice work. I am already curious how You will build the loadbearing transition from chainplate to hull. That safetyfactor makes it a bit .... bulky, so it will be interesting where in the construction You'll transit back to hull-strength and how You will do the feathering. I always loved the high-end outcome we could achieve in carbon with comparably basic tooling and supplies - just the cutting-, forming- and welding-equipment You would need to build a set of chainplates in stainless sporting the strength of Your carbon ones would resemble roundabout three years of full time cruising first world coasts I reckon, and integrating those to the hull would still make it somewhat subpar in comparison to the laminated "one-piece" construction You will get in the end with Your approach. Her previous owner did well in choosing her new caretakers and owners, that's for sure! Thanks for sharing, and don't bother cutting/editing 'em shorter, Your work (and brief yam yarning of course 😂) would justify an uncut realtime stream even ... With all the high end hull works she would deserve a set of carbon spars - You're planning on those?
@PN_48
@PN_48 Год назад
This is an awesome part of the build. We’ve been toying with the idea of moving our chainplates to accommodate a flat top main / erase the backstay and changing them to carbon would make a lot of sense. Another great vid guys!
@TheDuracellProject
@TheDuracellProject Год назад
Cool
@-RyN-23
@-RyN-23 Год назад
Honestly been wanting to see you make these for a min, sense you mentioned it tbh
@PhilipStubbs
@PhilipStubbs Год назад
I really enjoy the design elements shown here. In my ignorance, I was worried when you pulled those huge SS plates. But now I know what you are replacing them with and why, I feel a little less ignorant! 🤣
@hedleyjackson5131
@hedleyjackson5131 Год назад
Great explanation and loved seeing the process evolve.
@andrewmoylan6295
@andrewmoylan6295 Год назад
Hi Matt and Jani, a very interesting episode, cool insight into how you've constructed these chain plates, I'm sure you know what your doing Matt...great stuff
@BaltazarAlonso
@BaltazarAlonso Год назад
Well Done Matt!!!, love your project!!! saludos desde Argentina!
@johnmead1337
@johnmead1337 Год назад
Enjoyed. Great job as normal. Such dedication and patience. Great job on camera as well. Both very professional.
@livingforsail
@livingforsail Год назад
Another great video guys. Very cool chainplate progress. You’ve given me something to think about when I get around to the chainplates on Antidote.
@ChrisDunnnz
@ChrisDunnnz Год назад
I’ve been enjoying this series so much - this episode was fascinating!
@krispress7824
@krispress7824 Год назад
Thanks Evan
@Alaxon
@Alaxon Год назад
Q: I get the chainplate will be massive and strong but it’s only really as strong as the connection to the boat. Please share how it gets fixed to structure and how that connection will be bulletproof. Love the channel - have been following from the start!
@TheDuracellProject
@TheDuracellProject Год назад
you're ahead of us. we'll get to that next week!
@MrFatalZero
@MrFatalZero Год назад
Love this episode! Such a wealth of knowledge being shared!
@peterhamilton8430
@peterhamilton8430 Год назад
fantastic episode from content to video to music ....
@120Livi
@120Livi Год назад
26:01 Way longer episodes would be just fine!
@troublekaliman
@troublekaliman Год назад
Excellent demonstration!
@bobflores
@bobflores Год назад
As always, I really appreciate you including the why along with the how. Nothing wrong with longer videos. Thanks!
@boomwindsurfing2744
@boomwindsurfing2744 Год назад
Absolutely loved this episode. Amazing
@RestlessGranpa
@RestlessGranpa Год назад
Fascinating to learn about the methods you are using, though it's looks so simple when shown on video, it is so clever!
@nodogrunner
@nodogrunner 6 месяцев назад
How does this video not have 300K views?
@rjgillens2637
@rjgillens2637 Год назад
I continue to be amazed
@kaisailor1
@kaisailor1 Год назад
Thank you for the idea and for illustrating how it can be done. I'm about to begin building a boat and It's things like this that not only give me ideas, but also help with confidence in trying them. My boat design is very different from yours, but I will definitely be incorporating some of the techniques you have shown, in the construction of my boat. Thank very much, huge respect from Thailand.
@TheDuracellProject
@TheDuracellProject Год назад
glad it's helpful!
@kaisailor1
@kaisailor1 Год назад
@@TheDuracellProject The method for the chainplate strapping certainly is. I'm trying to build my boat completely from composites and with as few through bolting as possible. In my experience as a sailor and as a boat builder/restoration tech. All of the weakest points in a boat come from the -added through deck and through hull fittings. Even though a modern sailboat is built from modern plastics/composites. Their problems and points of failure are usually in the areas where stainless steel and other metals are bolted to the boat. I'm attempting to use only composites and organics in my build. However, I find your project particularly interesting because of how you are redesigning that old race-boat to be a cruiser and liveaboard. I can see throughout its construction that it was heavily built. Those double knee deck to hull supports on P&S are just massive. I think it will make an incredible floating home/office/exploration vessel. I'm just not a huge fan of deep draft keels anymore. Having owned and restored a few. I found that I prefer wider, shallow draft multi-hulls for many reasons, just personal preference really. But I'm glad I found your channel. You're definately an innovator and you make really informative videos. I'm debating doing a channel of my own and documenting my build. It takes a lot of extra time and effort. I tried it before with my dual-sport motorcycle riding videos, and got bogged down in the video editing process to such a degree that I gave up on the idea. So, thank you. I know it's not an easy thing to do. But you do have a very helpful assistant there! Cheers and good luck!
@crewfox11
@crewfox11 Год назад
Longer the better 🎉
@johnshillito9546
@johnshillito9546 Год назад
Great video well done
@jacana25
@jacana25 Год назад
Fascinating video. I expect another advantage of composite chainplates is the ability to bond the chainplates to the deck, completely eliminating the possibility of water leaks. This is of course a very common problem with chainplates that penetrate the deck and rely on caulk to maintain a seal.
@terrysmall1421
@terrysmall1421 Год назад
you have a great skill set, i really enjoyed learning so much watchin this episode.
@samvouga
@samvouga Год назад
It's exciting stuff however you look at it! Processes, craftsmanship, friendships, personalities! Great content...
@AlexGoesSailing
@AlexGoesSailing Год назад
Loved this episode and anything carbon is super cool!!! 😄
@sailor5026
@sailor5026 Год назад
Looks good. I’m glad to see the way that you and the people who help you take the necessary care when working in contact with glass or carbon fiber, epoxy, and all the dust. Exposure is cumulative. John Guzzwell: adventurer, sailor, boatbuilder and designer could no longer use epoxy in his later years due to his lifetime exposure. I myself was glad of the precautions we took in the finishing dept. at North Sails, Milford CT, since we cut battens, drilled headboards, etc. Carbon fiber chain plates is something new for me for a “do it yourself” cruising boat; but given the care and planning both you and the naval architect have taken, I have faith.
@willedge5352
@willedge5352 Год назад
Make it long always!
@malonesteverson9672
@malonesteverson9672 Год назад
Best yet!
@willranney8047
@willranney8047 Год назад
Make them longer!! 🎉
@francispeter5695
@francispeter5695 Год назад
BTW it would be very gratifying and instructive for many of us viewers, to heap up all those massive SS chainplate assemblies on a scale, and then compare the weight with the CF ones. I bet they weigh next to nothing !
@TheDuracellProject
@TheDuracellProject Год назад
Good idea, will do!
@chrislee7817
@chrislee7817 Год назад
Thanks for that Matt great episode. I make vac infusion carbon parts for bikes and this was super to watch. You could do a demo in a video as to why the wedges are so important. If you take a strand of carbon (3k) and try and break by pulling it, no way. Tie a knot in it and it snaps!! That's wht tow is better than woven .
@MarcelEling
@MarcelEling Год назад
Very informative and nice to watch
@TheMcGiffids
@TheMcGiffids Год назад
Carbon fiber is the Mazaratti of fiberglass.
@davidnichols147
@davidnichols147 Год назад
Matt, will you be using rod or wire on the shrouds? Cool episode, our mesmerism complete as layers of carbon fiber are applied towards your safety. Technically awesome.
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