Love the idea of the triangle boom traveller alternative. I've seen lots of cockpit travellers that break up the cockpit space and always thought it was a dumb idea, well done. Great honest videos.
Cheers Norman. Bavaria's get round the issue but putting their mainsheet and traveler in front of the bimini but I really dont like that system as then they are attached halfway down the boom and if you crash gybe your boom will snap like a twig. I had nothing to compare it too but my system seemed super logical and I'm super happy with how it works. Thanks for watching.
@@SailingLearningByDoing a few of the older, and smaller boats in the day used a similar, but simpler system...double blocks on the boom, and a block on each side, with only one control side rope to center or let out the boom.
Hey bro Been living on my twenty eight footer in melbourne for two years, planning on upgrading in a couple of years then circumnavigate Australia setting up community projects. The reason l am writing this is, l am a forty seven year old man who has found balance on a platform that rocks, metaphoricly and figuratively. It has given me great balance. I come from a fishing background in New Zealand and this is my first boat. I can't wait to cruise around the world living simply and happy. So l have subscribed and will endeavour to follow more of your journey. Kia kaha
Ah thats awesome mate, I feel the same way. I would also love to sail right around Australia, only seen the east coast so far. Also plan on sailing to NZ in the next couple of years.
Beautiful video and excellent showing of your home. Its a beautiful boat and i love your attitude about not worrying to much about scratching ot ding your paint. You have it and you use it. Enjoy life because most of us do not. Cheers from frozen Canada mate.
What you are saying about the position of shrouds closer to the freeboard is one of the elements in yacht design that has most implications. It means headsails with little overlap so that the jib can keep a good angle. It means a mast position a little more forward, therefore a longer boom. It also means spreaders, so no dead downwind point of sail. And if there's no dead downwind POS, you'll need ability for the boat to plane to keep the VMG, and for that the boat needs to remain lightweight. And it all comes down to materials. Shrouds closer to the centerline is not a stupid design decision. It's a design that makes sense given the constraints of the time. As for mainsail material, you could have a look at radial HydraNet.
HI, yes obviously everything is a compromise of some sort and design ideas go in and out of favour. But from a strength point of view I would rather have as wide a triangle as possible. Having the shrouds enter the deck closer to the mast than the width of the spreaders seems pretty daft to me, but yeah if you have giant 150% jibs then thats what you have to have. DDW sailing is pretty uncomfortable and I try not to do it but with my big Assy I can still get a long pretty good
You got me going on this whole solo sailing idea. Its been 2 weeks, I think, and I can't get the seas out of my head. I never thought about how freeing having some sails up could be. I can't wait to make the sea my home. Or at least some gorgeous islands somewhere. If you want some crew gimme a shout eh Thanks for the videos dude. Seriously Thanks.
Yeah Ty. Solo sailing is for sure not for everyone but for those who like it I think its maybe the most free you can feel in this world. Its a swirling mass of emotions and you really discover your own strengths.
Well I got 4 or 5 sailing books coming and a simulator called eSail installed. I love learning new things and this journey is going to be life changing. Heck it already is! I'm burning through all these utube videos learning what other folks do. So looking forward to joining. Fair winds!
Between my restaurant in Normandy being forcibly closed, as all are, with the virus and worse, not being able to get a flight down to Lisbon, frontiers closed, to inspect a Dundee Tuna boat for sale, you've once again lifted me out of minor depression with your well informed calm demeanor and intuition. Thanks Vern. (Me having the surname of Vernon of course brings no intentional bias to my comments hahahaha)
Hey, yeah I guess lots of people are facing some frustrating times right now, me too. I just want to be back on my boat but cant quite get there for a while. It'll be over soon.
mate thankyou for taking the time to explain your set up.very interesting,easy to understand and extremely helpful for someone like me who is learning the basics.champion effort
Been watching sailing videos recently because the lifestyle is something I'm interested in if I can find a way to make it work. I must say that is well thought out boat that is beautifully maintained and organized. It's my favorite I've seen so far. Now I need to watch your other videos and learn more! Thanks for taking the time to put this together!
Thats awesome, glad you are thinking about joining us on the water. Yeah my boat was very well designed and I'm still very happy with her. Sooner or later I'll have to do a good refit in a country where high quality things are available. I repainted some of it this year in Lombok but other areas of the boat will need attention over the coming few years.
I totally agree with you on about everything you said. The people who clutter their decks seem to want to advertise the fact they are live aboard ocean cruisers. Anyone with experience knows it all gets in the way and likely to fall in the sea and pollute or be stolen and puts weight where it's not wanted. That looked like the ultimate anchorage.
What can i say but thank you Vernon , I have a small but sufficient kelt 850 and have already strengthened the shroud deck fixings internally as manufacture design on the mk1 was poor, I've come up with a plan to re build and re route to new fixings and allow for a better windward experience after watching this part 2. On top of that your main sheet is a cracking idea, giving you a preventer and space plus strength .. genius Vernon.
Thanks mate. Glad you could take something away from my video. I'm by no means an expert but I like to think I can work through problems in a logical way and have a reasonable understanding of engineering. I study other boats and adapt what I think might work to my own. Have fun and thanks for watching
I'm not one to do what the others do but I'm in line with the best of them binge-watching your videos. Love your attitude. Take it easy and maybe see you on the water someday.
A very nice boat and sensible set-up. My only worry will be the rudder but you have a plan B in case of rudder damage. I like the twin mainsheet set-up and currently planing in fitting one in my Top Hat Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for showing us the positive aspects of a fast cruiser. Your Sayer must be a joy in light wind, when most production runs would turn on the motor. You inspire me.
You’re a pretty sensible soul and have a truck load of common sense. Something the world is missing on. Like your main trianvler system something I thought about it but never could visualise how well it would work. Thanks for the feedback.
excellent tour. I think the traveller mod was an awesome idea. Shows how much thought you put into what you do. Sail on Bro, your doing us proud still & an appreciative audience is sailing with you.
Well done. I like the double jib track system. My boat also uses a Raymarine Type 1 autopilot. I find it invaluable for single handling. With a semi balanced spade rudder it requires little force to turn.
Another Great video, thank you. I leave in Vancouver Canada and have a small boat which I take sailing in the summer weekends. Knowing a little more about boats than average person I really like your boat. I think it's perfect for what you are doing. Thank you for all your videos/work, it is always a pleasure to watch it. A specially the end of it with great drones shuts. Best of luck.
Hi Vernon, I truely love your boat, and It is such a pleasure to watch your videos and adventures, your tone of voice when explaining and telling the things here and newer videos are excellent. I came accross some things during this vid what actually not suits you, while explaining the things as 1 of many as the wheel that by others are preffered imagining that they sail a bigger boat was not needed. Many people cant afford a new custom boat and buying a second hand boat comes in most cases with a wheel, even if Schiehallion would come with a wheel you would have take it as well. My point here is that you provide a excellent explanation, the extra addition why others might have choosen something else is not needed, the same for the jars with gasolin, some has a to small boat to hide the jars. Its just my opinion and I know you saying it without any harm, however in my opinion leaving such comments behind suits you more as a person, with all respect and keep up the good work. Kind regards,
Thanks for watching and yeah you are right, I didn't mean any of it in a negative way. I think that many people, specially first time buyers just think that a "real" boat needs a wheel.
@@SailingLearningByDoing Hi Vernon, not need to thank me, I or we need to thank you, you doing such a great job and posting amazing videos, and indeed I can not disagree to the fact that the newbies think that a boat needs a wheel, therefor your explanation how convenient it is steering without a wheel is more then sufficient for the once thinking to buy there first real boat. Wish you all the best and looking forward to your new vids, soon i will be your patriot as well, with the name having te initials U.K.
Don't know if it's possible on your boat but you may want to add a low cable aft of the cockpit. I've been on Lake Michigan and had my feet taken out from under me, broke a tooth with hundreds of pounds of water landing on me from a breaking wave I did not see coming and by the looks of your cockpit I would have ended up in the drink. Keep those videos coming that's a beautiful boat. Fairwinds my friend we are coming to you from Lake Michigan.
You're quite the inspiration. Glad you get to see parts of the world that only few get to see. That's what it's all about. You're definitely not showboating (excuse the pun🤭)...you've found a lifestyle that agrees with you. Not too many people are that lucky, or willing to give up what they have to pursue their happiness...good on you bud. Can't wait for the next episode!
It si a very interesting compromise to have a racing boat as a blue water cruiser. You have to be a bit spartan and minimal but the rewards are great. But this boat is special in that regard, hard wood core, water tight bulkheads, it is build like a tank and still light, allowing for speed and fun sailing. The huge security issue is that fin rudder, but you did very well to remedy that, you really shouldn't go offshore with out it. It suits you perfectly! Congratulations !! By the way...I sailed last year on a Outremer 55 catamaran which had been to Antartica...some cats do handle the big seas...Thanks Vernon. What an anchorage!!!!
Hey mate, great comment. Yeah I know, there are some Cats out there that are amazing. I'd love a Gunboat for example and if I ever win lotto I'll get one.
Hiya buddy. Very informative, useful, and succinct video on your wonderful boat - I want one! It has most of the features I would pursue in an offshore cruising yacht, and your delivery in describing them has been a pleasure to watch. Duncan.
That's a great boat, mate. Slick like a fish. And I'm the same regarding that I had no one to inspire me. I just jumped into it. Oh, and also hat a foot switch for the winch, but after I in hard conditions had to pull out the anker, and run back to cockpit to engage the motor and then run forward again - I extended the winch control to the cockpit.
Cheers mate. Yeah I've considered doing the same, would be very easy in my case. What will probably happen is that I'll get into a hairy shituation and wish I'd done it ages before.
Cheers Jason, you're only totally new on your first day, every day after that you are getting more experienced. Enjoy the learning curve, it never stops.
Hi Vernon, for cruising, a heavish Dacron is cheaper and lasts longer than the racing sail materials. 3 reefing points and hand loops above each reefing eye. Rolly Tasker are ‘not far away’ in Thailand and would look after you. (Rolly built my first Sabot sail long ago in 1968).
Thanks for the tips! Yeah I'll go with either Dacron or maybe the new Dacron/spectra mix weave. My main now is the one I got when I purchased the boat and its not really ideal for tropical cruising. Shape is great though.
Sailing Learning By Doing yes, I have admired the shape of your sails from the start, as they were a stand-out compared with the norm, and they still look good, but ... the tropical sun 🙁. A good 100% sail cover that is used all of the time is key.
Loved this video and the boat. All systems are so well thought and there are no frills just the way I like it. I'm wondering what is the price range for the boat like that.
I have been following your channel for the past few months and I really love following along your adventures. I too am new to sailing and fell in love with your boat because of its setup and size. Hopefully we’ll meet one day and cruise together in our own boats😜 Btw have yiu ever been to East Timor ?
awh man... this is torture! We are itching to sail again as we sit on the hard doing projects... thanks for sharing this awesome video! Maybe we will share an anchorage :) Cheers and fair winds!
Hi guys, hardstand life eh, everyone loves it. I'm actually in frozen austria right now shooting snowboarding. Back to my boat in 4 weeks time. have fun, I'm sure your boat will look great after all the hard work.
Hey Vernon, just re-watched this after the comments on your latest vid. I like that system and I'm going to look into the feasibility of doing it on Moon Shadow. I'm also thinking of ditching the wheel - it takes up a massive amount of space in the cockpit. I use the "emergency" tiller for my windvane to reduce the number of lines running around the place.
haha yeah, there was a guy on some forum yesterday asking about installing a wheel and getting rid of the tiller on his 30ft boat and everyone was giving him the go-ahead. I told him not to do it. So much room room in the cockpit, such a better feeling steering while sailing, wy less complexity and things to go wrong.
Hey Vernon, thanks for another great vid. I'm sure I don't speak just for myself, but I want you to know that you inspire! You have a lovely boat, that's very well thought out. Could you consider making a video on how you plan a trip and manage to find all those beautiful "off the beaten track" places? Passage planning, navigation and knowledge resources and all that jazz would be very interesting to hear. Anyway, fair winds and following seas. Cheers!
@@SailingLearningByDoing I think "how-to's" are a great way of not only inspiring people, but also help give the tools to go out and do it. Say hello to Europe, learned to sail my Opti on Bodensee there, but currently doing some work on my boat here in Oz before looking to sail around Australia. Now I'm thinking I will do a slightly larger circuit to include PNG and some of the places you're currently showcasing. YOUR FAULT! :-)
I was fairly impressed with your yacht before you explained the things on this video. It has been so well thought out and I like your approach to living and sailing on it.
Awesome again. Great points made. I see the shrouds coming down into saloons and I hate them too. Love the tracks and the storage. And by the way, what an amazing location to be at anchor over there! Enjoy!
Hi Vernon, would love more details on the main sheet setup. Particularly regarding the block and tackle. You seemed to have a lot of line, so it isn’t clear how you’ve set that up. Love that you’ve cleaned up the cockpit removing the traveller without loosing any control over sail shape. Fair winds!
Hi Yves. The block are 5-1 so use a lots of line. My speaders are swept a long way back so the boom cant move very far out before the sail hits the spreaders.
i thought i'd enjoy the inside tour better than the outside but wrong-O....that was great! i learned a lot so thnx for that. i'll never be a sailor (too old, not enough $$) but if i was i'd buy the twin sister of your boat. it seems to tick all the boxes. great vid. you're a very good speaker and you should be proud of yourself. thnx, mate.
Very informative, I’ve learned a few things, with the double blocks on the boom you’d still need a vang, yeah!? I don’t think anyone should or would think you’re playing “look at me!” Really enjoy your content and your humble approach. Thanks for sharing and safe passage.
Hey Vernon! I just binge watched all your sailing videos post the new boat, and I absolutely love your channel. I love the drone footage and underwater stuff, but I came here to learn about sailing, and was wondering if you could do an instructional video of sorts? You have some here and there throughout your series, and the quality of it is so good, and I've learned lots already! Keep up the good work brother!
Thanks Jim and good effort getting though all my videos. My channel is not a "how to sail" channel and never will be. Its called "Learning by Doing" for a reason. If I can inspire people to think about and act on their dreams then perfect. I also dont see myself as qualified to "teach" someone how to sail but I have no problem showing how I do it as I'm self taught.
I'd love to hear more about how you got into sailing, what was the catalyst in choosing this lifestyle and all of the serendipitous pieces that propelled you along to get there.
Hi Meagan. I've spoken about this in a few podcasts I've done(links in the description) but maybe I'll talk about it in a video sometime. Thanks for watching.
Hey mate.... as far as ideas for saving money on your Mainsail replacement. I suggest determining your sail deminsions... P and E... can be measured with a tape if you don't have any records listing deminsions. Then search used sail inventories online. Racing boats go through many sails, selling them as used, with plenty of life left in them for cruising, but no longer competitive on the race course. You don't have to find another Sayer 37 Mainsail.... look through the listings by dimension and you might get lucky enough to find a sail off another model, like a Farr 38 etc whose deminsions are close enough, or close enough that it can be altered to fit your Sayer at minimal cost. If you're really lucky, some hugely popular competitive class boats Mainsail will work.... in that case there will be many acceptable sails to choose from.
Great setup on your boat. Especially for single hand sailing. Can't think of a much bette,r system. Really like the hydrovane over the competition. Keep the vids coming.
“ FOR SALE: unused HF radio and Hidrovane unit (I’m keeping its rudder). Both in perfect working condition (if you find someone who knows how the darn thing works 😂) “
Have to agree with some of your other viewers - your traveller solution looks ideal. Would appreciate a video where you explain the principles behind it and the process of manufacture, set up and trialling to achieve the optimum result.
@@SailingLearningByDoing I'd watch that, we've been considering doing some heavy mods on our boat and the twin mainsail system seems pretty ideal for what we have in mind.
Really enjoyed, this video.I love your thinking as much as the boat.l have been looking at heaps of boats and reading through lockdown(s) in Melbourne.It’s funny but before watching your videos, l had already come to similar views as yourself,and also similar boats.As mentioned,l have watched heaps of cruising videos through the now 5 seasons in Melbourne (lockdown #5)but have never been moved to want to support any on Patreon before,l will watch a few more but am pretty sure l will signup,love your video skills and your narration,subject is tre’s beaut too!, Thankyou
Phew, lockdown madness huh? I'm happy you've been watching and enjoying a bunch of my videos and would be very appreciative if you decide to support us on Patron
Thanks mate, great video. I particularly like the way you have the cockpit set up, with the open end on it. Great idea. Keep living the dream mate, see you next time. Cheers for now... ;-}
Totally agree with you on the engineering oddity of in deck shrouds,but it is the best way to gain precious degrees upwind with large headsails. Dam the future leaks ! I'll have a bigger better boat by then.or so they think.
Excellent TY! Much of your formula is spot on with my thinking. A lighter boat with spade n fin keel deep enough to be on the stiff side. A boat that points well has more options when shaping a course. Also very capable in light air common to SE Asia. Yours is very modern n sensible. Main sheet is interesting as is the advantages of a tiller. A hydrovane as an addition to a spade rudder, agreed. 320 solar and 450 battery topped of by noon, nice. Do you like the swept spreaders for down wind work? It is a shame there are not more deep bulb boats in the 35 - 45ft range.
Hi David, good comments. I feel pretty lucky to own this boat, as you rightly say, there are very few boats like this in the 35-40ft range. Obviously the swept spreaders are a slight disadvantage downwind but they more than are up for it in other areas. I'll either go wing-on-wing down wind or sail a bit higher with the A2, more comfortable and faster but a bit further distance.
@@SailingLearningByDoing I find your comments particularly useful because you have cruised a full keel boat and a decidedly sporty one. For several reasons I am leaning towards the sporty side of the formula as well. Schiehallion does a nice job of reaffirming my preference.
In relation to using your oven as a fariday cage. Put your phone in it and have someone call it, if it rings it is not suitable. The problem with the oven is the glass door and few ovens are grounded.
Beuthyful clean boat, like this very much!!! Can I ask you what kind of boat is this ?? Like how organized it is on the deck, not a lot of thinks for moistly nothing. Thank you for this interesting video
Epic boat tour, both parts 1 & 2 were extensive! Thanks for having us along! Would be interested to see some more DIY refurb stuff the bow roller sounds like a cool project. If you ever make it to Scotland, would love to take you for a sail! Ps, shame about the view..
Thanks Joe. I was in such a rush to leave on my adventure that I didn't film the whole bow roller thing. could have made a whole episode about that. I tend to think that sort of stuff is super boring but I realise now that many people are very interested in it. Would love to sail the west side of Scotland on day.
Hi Vernon, l’m liking the twin mainsheet system. Have seen it before and always liked the idea, especially in removing the traveller out of the way in the cockpit. Very interested if you could give some detail about your setup. Think it has a endless line on a double pulley? Is that right? Cheers and thanks for sharing your philosophy
Hi, thanks for watching. You a right yes, endless line. The pulley is 2 speed so grab 1 line and its single speed, grab both and its double. Works great.
@@SailingLearningByDoing well i hope you make it mate and just escape it all for a few weeks or months.it almost feels like time is running short at the moment and we need to enjoy life while we can.all i can say from my perspective is the brief escapism you provide to less intrepid folks like me is very valuable.i myself love following sport and even that is going missing.sad and frightening times
Tiny home?! That boat is huge!! Makes my 29 ft pocket cruiser look like a dinghy! Love the main traveler idea. Looks like pad eyes where your blocks connect to the boom. Did you through bolt those to the topside of the boom? Wouldn’t bales thru bolted horizontally be better? I’m considering this setup on my boat :). Cheers!
