I'm a Menlo Park kid who moved into San Francisco for college...where I paid my rent and $60 a semester tuition by working/living in North Beach and then, when it opened, Ghirardelli. Went to the Matrix, The Filmore, and the Apollo every week. Utter heaven. Yes.I realize what a remarkable time and place I grew up in!
Absolutely the best era to be a part of. Later on we saw all the greats at the Fillmore East in the Village. Met Jimi coming out of Electric Ladyland studios.
One of Dylan's greatest lines comes not from a song but from the No Direction Home doc when he says (in reference to Baez) "you can't be in love and wise at the same time." That explains a lot to me.
Thank You Thank You Thank You. I was at one of Joan's first concerts in Forest Hills, NY and we were hoping she'd brought Bob with her. Sure enough, he came out and did his magical thing. After the concert, it was night time, I saw them walking together off in the distance, holding hands. It's an image I've cherished forever.
@@Estefaniac19 I can't remember, early '60's is the best I can offer. What I do remember is that after the concert they were walking down the side of the stadium together and holding hands.
I think they sound horrible together. Dylan sings ridiculously and drowns out Joan's beautiful voice. However, Joan alone sings Dylan's stuff great and Bob really does a good job on his own music. They weren't meant to be, I guess; who the hell knows?
Artists are not meant to stay together. They are loners and they produce their best work during such times. Such are the lives of artistic people throughout history ...
it is very rare to see Bob smiles while singing,but he did it whenever he sang with Joan.How beautiful but sad stories...I understand that as I broke up just couple of days ago.We used to listen to Bob together and she said she will try to love Bob too as I am but now everything changed...I hope she will lead a blissful life without me on her side.
Amazing!! I went to a JB concert in 1965, it was in Ottawa Canada, halfway through Joan brought up BD to join him on stage. The crowd went wild and they obviously had a great time together. They sang several numbers together-just like we saw and heard right here. Wow! What a great experience. Can't see the keyboard anymore.
Good on you mate. So glad you got to experience something so powerful and timeless. I don't think we will ever experience anything like 1962 - 1969 again.
“I don't think I'm tangible to myself. I mean, I think one thing today and I think another thing tomorrow. I change during the course of a day. I wake and I'm one person, and when I go to sleep I know for certain I'm somebody else. I don't know who I am most of the time. It doesn't even matter to me.” Bob Dylan
Everybody is trying to have a certain personality. He's not doing that. He is a creative person who follows in the first place his intuition which is more truthful and closer to our higher self than our (fake) personalities. It is out of fear that we cling to our personalities. He don't, he has courage.
But he's deliberately speeding it up and changing his melody to make sure it doesnt sound lovely and sweet the way Joan wants it to be. He's sending her a big message there.
@@NagoyaHouseHead He probably is. It's such a comples relation. But they both had pretty different singing styles regardless. Both great artists, very underappreciated outside the US unfortunately.
I think you wrong there, about both being unappreciated outside the USA. They wouldn’t have comoleted International tours in recent years, if not aporeciated. I’m very sorry a couple years back to have missed Joan’s tour to Australia ( think I was travelling out if OZ at the time. Did catch Dylan & really enjoyed his show with the jazz players he had with him. A small but classy ensemble and Dylan reinventing his songs ....
A beautiful song. What's even more amazing is how Judas Priest credibly turned it into great heavy metal song. A crossover nobody ever would have thought of.
Well Dylan didn’t actually say he was moved by Joan’s song. He said he was impressed to be a part of her song and that he continues to be impressed. It seems like a minor point for me to make but Dylan may be really saying that he didn’t like being a character in her song. I don’t know, it’s ambiguous still. We may never be relieved from the stress of not knowing what Bob Dylan really thinks about Diamond and Rust.
@@Hartlor_Tayley it meant something to him. According to Baez, on the first day of rehearsals for Rolling Thunder, he asked her if she was going to play Diamonds and Rust, calling it the song about, "diamonds and blue eyes," but she responded by telling him it was about her ex husband. I think the tragedy of their situation was their unwillingness to actually talk to one another about it
I think this is a fair take from both of them. She was clearly into the politics and the sign-holding and the sit-ins. He just wanted to write music, perform, travel, and have fun with his friends. They both influenced one another. Seems that they both have good perspectives on why whatever they had initially didn’t last. I think that them reuniting 10+ years later in a different season of life gives me hope for some reason, for whatever that’s worth. I still remember the first time I watched Don’t Look Back, now 20+ years ago, and I was so impressed by them both. I’ve gotten older but anytime I see those clips they are the same age. Odd perspective. I wonder what they think if they watch the film now?
I heard that album when I was about 16 (57 yrs. ago) and have been mesmerized by her voice ever since.( To say nothing of the wonderful human being she has become.)
That unique guitar style of Joan was her own, developed from much of the folk guitar of the time, but, also based in the Elizabeth Cotton picking style.. ....Cotton gets little recognition, the style is hard to develop........and harder to find a teacher.....I was fortunate to have a friend who studied guitar and folk music at Albuequerque or Phoenix.....so recognize it, and also saw Joan perform many times over the years, often in parks, or at marches, or Be Ins.......Cotton was an old Black woman, her mother had been a slave freed by the Civil War.......she deserves people to know her style and her life.
@@surchristian3518 I would love to see a really well done book and support album and support video done to preserve all this ancient music style and personality information. I am too swamped with work, (high risk youth, veterans, and their kids, as well as mustang sanctuary consultations)and just plain O L D, but think it could be done and used to raise money for an old musicians home for those who need it, and there are way too many who die alone in crappy walk ups, or homeless.
At 8:41, Joan and Dylan singing merrily "Go away from my window ... I'm not the one you want babe" .... prophetic song indeed ... who knew? ... they did end up driving each other apart in their own ways ...
hahaha the epic, unheard dialogue of two folk legends: "Hey Bob, you want to sing some concerts with me?' "ehhshit I dunno" "..I think it'd be a fantastic idea" "hey yah so do I" "um so I have these shows coming up, would you like to be part of them?" "wehll yah, what da fuck"
Young love. It can break your heart ❤️ Joan and Bob are so heartwarming in this video. I might have made it 3 days on the road with Bob 😂 I met a popular band in my early 20's. We hung out after their show. I went home and slept for 3 weeks😂
Its nice that Joan has finally got some real perspective of those turbulent times. Dylan never wanted to be the face of a movement he was just the lyrist's/ poet . But what a poet.
Bob and Joan's relationship in the early days reminds one of the Barbara Streisand quip that "when a woman 'marries'(?) a man she spends her life trying to change him. And when she finally succeeds she complains he's not the man she married". Projected idealisation is the ruination of many a relationship.
Bro...you need your vision checked. Well, on the other hand, maybe you're just into old washed up women who've 'known' more men from around the world than Jezebel herdamnself.
Funny thing watching this is I hear Dylan talk about her and in the back of my mind I hear her song diamond and rust where she says "now your telling me your not nostalgic", well here it is his true thoughts just many years too late lol
Joan's voice is unique, and her first albuns are a total novelty. She is like poem turned into a person. Bob was close to her choices with his wonderful poems. It still sounds strange how their two voices make an unique sound, in total fusion.
She explains in the video why it didn't work out, she wanted him to be a political "activist" and he wanted to move on. BTW she also had an affair with Steve Jobs later on.
I could list to either or just one of them for ever Fantastic listen to them since the 60's and Joan i never did drugs it was the music for me and i wanted Bob to be President
Did not know of this doc. Great to see how time can heal. JB could only do one thing and Dylan was changing so fast and doing so many different things.
Joan sort of dissembles here. She was never Bob's "only." During the time they were involved, Bob still was in a relationship with Suze Rotolo. Joan was the interloper. I love Joan, but both Bob's girlfriend (Suze) and Joan's girlfriend (Kim Chapell) were treated cavalierly, and both were devastated. By the time of Bob's England tour of 1965, he was already putting his romantic sights elsewhere. His future wife Sara Lownds was already pregnant with Bob's child, Jesse Dylan. Joan would never rekindle what they had, and Bob was not very nice to her on that tour, to say the least.
I think Bob and Suze were soulmates but they took different paths. She was too young and humble in spirit. She couldn't face his fame. Maybe with his maturity now they would have been fine. But that's life... He was also very lucky to have had a second chance for a true love with Sara.
"Before Elvis, there was nothing" - John Lennon. I'm pretty sure something similar could be said about Bob Dylan and Joan Baez. Unique and never surpassed, when it comes to songwriting.
i think Bob does not favour the Media so much. He is fed up with them always trying to get him to give the one and only answer to the most complex issues in the world. He likes himself in the company of people that thinks of Dylan as just Dylan without all the curtains.
Joan Baez excelled beyond the angels of Heaven in singing the Henry Child English ballads and in singing lyrical songs AND the lyrical songs of Bob Dylan. I love best of all her album entitled simply JOAN, her album Noel, and her incredibly beautiful album of song and poetry spoken, called Baptism.
@@lisamoroney3036 it’s a pity though isn’t it? I spent $140 Australian dollars on the ticket. And I don’t know why sometimes he doesn’t give a good concert…
Wild Mountain Thyme @4.10 . I’d never heard Bob or Joan sing that before. As a Scotsman I have to point out it’s ‘go lassie go’ not ‘laddie go’ . Beautiful song tho .
A couple of light years Just Hits everyone's life past a certain age so many things happened a couple of light years it's one of those magic lines Bob Dylan spoke about where do they come from I don't have them anymore they just came back back then when I had well it seems in diamonds and rust and many other songs Joan you had them but D&R seem to be something he left in your soul.
She disrespected his then girlfriend, Suze, and he made an expedient choice until he didn't need her anymore. Her justification is her own arrogance. She was meant for greatness. Suze still impresses.
Saw these two at some Rolling Stones concert when Mick Jagger came flying down onto stage on some sky line! Baez was singing first then Dylan joined her,singing blowing in the wind. They were clearly "in love ".The music was great.
@@Add_Account485 It's just that if you're young enough to be amazed that he used typewriters, it might have been way past your bedtime when you made your comment. It might still be. But these aren't barbed remarks, just a little teasing. Your comment was really quite sweet, Ms Ingénue.
@@marleyjake perception is everything. Lol . Your perception of me is Wrong and of my comment, . But thank you. That's the PROBLEM with RU-vid. It has no tone of voice, face, or meaning.. Eg. "F#ck you" could literally mean a bad thing or it could be a joke between two friends. But over a computer one may be offended.. And I actually used a typewriter myself as a kid. In highschool we had electronic typewriters and internet was ONLY just coming a thing. So I'm a lot older than u think.. Probably your age..lol.. Just saying "PERCEPTION is everything and your perception of my comment was wrong. Lol.. It's all good.. We probably went to school together!. I live in Australia though. You!?..🤗
@@Add_Account485 Aimee Mann reckons perspective is everything: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cIBdojOmpJU.html - and if it's not, it certainly seems like more than enough to go on with. But with regard to perception, if the internet was only just a coming thing when you were in high school then you're only fortyish or less and therefore still only a bubby, which means that it's still way past your bedtime, so my perception wasn't wrong about that after all. I matriculated in 1968. Now that you've expressed yourself with a little more application it's clear that the problem is neither with YouseTube nor the stars but with oneself, young madam. People have been expressing meaning by writing quite clearly for hundreds of years without tone of voice or face, and you've only recently shown that you can do so quite well enough too. Innit. With regard to "F#ck you" my perspective is that the blameless name of fuck should never be taken in vain. It should only be taken or rather given literally and it should never literally mean or be a bad thing, though indeed, it does sometimes seem to be a disappointing joke between two friends. Sigh. I agree that one may be offended over, or in front of, beside or anywhere near a computer. I think there might be something intrinsically offensive about computers. Yes, I live implicated by my birth in the land of shamelessly extinguished native title too. But I haven't perpetuated it. I'll leave no one for dead, no one behind. I'm still trying to learn how to just sit quietly in a room.* Bon chance. wist.info/pascal-blaise/3093/ .
