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According to Jesse Ventura, he hated Hogan because he wanted to form a wrestler's union, but Hogan ratted him out to Vince McMahon. I don't know if it's true or not.
Hogan and Ventura were apparently friends until Jesse learned that Hulk had ratted him out to McMahon about his plans to unionise the wrestlers. Hulk Hogan was allegedly earning more than all the other wrestlers put together and allegedly foresaw his slice of the WWF pie becoming smaller if his colleagues demanded a larger percentage.
Only a true narcissist would be incapable of understanding as to why Jesse Ventura might have felt betrayed by Hulk Hogan, an individual whom he had previously considered a friend but who metaphorically speaking stabbed him in the back at a crucial juncture in the wrestling business. The WWF was massive back in those days. There was a good living to be made for everyone if the profits were to be shared-out more fairly. The highest earners and the biggest draw to the sport could still have enjoyed a lavish lifestyle if they and the owners of the business were prepared to allow some of those profits to trickle down to those wrestlers who earned a lot less. Is that really such a difficult concept to grasp? Perhaps it is. For I guess that these are the times of greed and rampant self-interest in which we now live. I've seen Jesse Ventura give a number of speeches, interviews and presentations which are available online. I don't know how anyone could hear such a talented individual speak only to suggest that such a man is "very stupid". But then again I don't have a self-contained flat up my own a*se.
Should have been at Mania 8. Hogan vs Flair. Heenan screws Flair and Hogan goes heel monster like he did in Japan. Then you find out Heenan was his manager all along...then Piper confronts Hogan.
We can all have our own opinions, but I've always thought Bobby to be a very straight shooter. When Bobby first became ill, I searched online and came across an email address for him and sent him a thoughtful email. He actually took the time to write me back. I truly believe he valued his fans and appreciated hearing from them.
My favorite Heenan quote is, responding to Gorilla Monsoon's statement that the Wrestlemania was at the Bellagio in Las Vegas, Monsoon told Bobby, there will be free drinks. Bobby quipped, "I'll be there!"
That’s funny to hear, because Bobby’s on screen persona always went out of his way to express his contempt for Hogan. Some of these guys were such brilliant hilarious actors. So entertaining. GOAT.
That's the beauty of their professionalism and a testament on how good they were. They made you believe they really hated each other. But they were really good friends. Hogan even wrote a 2 page foreword on "Bobby the Brain: Wrestling's Bad Boy Tells All" book on how much he admired Bobby.
Whoever is behind this channel needs a huge THANK YOU! Absolutely made me go back to my childhood. The older I get the more I miss these days and the more I forget them lol
I think Bobby’s reasoning as to why Jesse disliked Hulk would be different today had he heard Jesse’s reasoning. Hulk was the one who snitched to Vince that it was Jesse who wanted a Union for the wrestler’s. Up until that point, Jesse never had an issue with Hulk.
Bobby addressed the union in the long form of this video and said the same thing as a few others did that the union talk was a joke and the wrestlers would have not been able to work together. You never hear any other wrestler claim they wanted a union, just regular employment with benefits. A union discussion during those years would have killed the business.
@@1980Triumphprobably because he was an announcer who made significantly less than what the wrestlers were making. But if there was a union and everyone was an "on-screen performer" then he could possibly get more.
@@brobsty1856 - not true, Jesse made a fortune doing commentary - the money was good plus he didn't have the schedule the wrestlers did, he stated they were jealous of this fact. I believe Vince was terrible and wrestlers deserve health insurance and benefits but if they wanted a union they could have formed one regardless of what Vince stated....how come Jesse didn't pull that at WCW, how come other wrestlers never fight for it since then in any company??? Jesse and the marks are more pressed about it than actual wrestlers.
@@1980Triumph Jesse said he made more than the wrestlers? Jesse said the other wrestlers were jealous? Jesse is the best at everything according to Jesse.
Heenan had a deep respect for Hogan. I was lucky enough to talk to him years before he died and said if he could do it all over again with Hogan, he absolutely would without question. I remember him saying "oh he's a great guy..." and went on from there. I said "wait, I thought you HATED Hogan with all your soul." He just smiled and said "kayfabe my friend, kayfabe."
According to Jesse Ventura's RF Video/Title Match Wrestling Shoot Interview, Jesse said that his friendship with Hogan went downhill when Hulk snitched to Vince about Jesse forming an union.
Exactly! Vince went and fired all the wrestlers that were trying to convince everyone to form a union. Vince admitted all of this during a deposition when Ventura successfully sued him in the 1990s. Paul Tagliabue, the former NFL Commissioner, met with Ventura in Vegas and told him that the wrestlers should form a union, which is where Ventura got the idea from.
It’s so nice to hear someone, especially someone I respect, stand up for Terry. I’ve known Terry for 12-13 years now and he’s always been a very good guy. I’ve seen him go out of his way for fans, even saw him pay for an entire party’s dinner because it was one fans birthday. He’s been good to the Clearwater area and the people here.
Jesse has a big ego and resents anyone more successful than him, he attacks Hogan, Vince, Schwarzenegger and Trump because all those guys are more successful than him and his ego cant handle it.
Can't argue, Hogan had 'IT' in the ring and Jessie had 'IT' with the microphone. I was stunned when I saw film of Hogan doing the 'Hulkster' routine in the AWA. Old school mentality got in the way.
People crap on Hogan for his ringwork, because most fans like the Dancing with the Stars wrestling has become, but Hogan had the psychology, selling and timing like most of the best, except he was 6'8 300lbs with muscles, so he drew A LOT of money
@@jonathancurran5366 are you saying he was A1or you saying he was a one out of 10 because if that's what you're saying dude please don't speak because you have no idea what you're talking about. Hogan had the Gift of Gab while oozing with charisma
Hogan and Ventura both copied Billy Graham. Hogan got over big time in the ring. Ventura had health issues and he couldn't do much in the ring. Ventura was actually more famous for his time as a commentator than he was as an in ring guy. He was one of the greatest on the mic.
Wow. As a kid I never would have imagined myself sitting here right now watching this and hearing Heenan say that stuff. That is really wild. Long ago my dad told me that all of those guys in wrestling that "hated" each other were actually buddies. The kayfabe stuff was just an illusion and here we see that very clearly. Heenan wanted to manage Hogan that whole time.
I remember, many years ago, going to see Wahoo McDaniels fight Ivan Koloff in one of the meanest, bloodiest fights ever. After the show we went to a little dive diner just up from the auditorium and they were sitting together at a table eating and laughing with each other. Was cool as hell (got both autographs), but kinda sucked because it showed me (as a younger fan) that wrestling was all staged.
Bobby is wrong about Hogan being concerned about Jesse Ventura. Remember, when Jesse Ventura was Governor of Minnesota, Hogan actually had Vince McMahon call Jesse in order to ask if Jesse was going to have Hogan arrested when Hogan visited Minnesota to promote a book. Hogan did this because Hogan believed Jesse was still angry with him due to the fact that Hogan stopped Jesse's plan to form a Union in the wrestling industry, which Hogan stopped by ratting everybody out and telling Vince McMahon. Jesse said, "Vince, tell Hogan I have far bigger concerns in life than Hulk Hogan." There is no doubt Bobby Heenan has things backwards on that particular subject - at least from that point in time.
He is totally right here . Jesse was awesome on the mic but was not a good wrestler . Its funny cause Jesse in one of his interviews said he don't think of Hogan , he had a state to run but I believe Heenan . Jesse was jealous , like a lot of guys were of Hogan .
It's interesting to watch interviews from different people about this world and see the differing opinions. Heenan loved Hogan but many others don't. Different people say different things about Ventura too. Personally I have to say that Hogan put on a far better show in the ring. That guy could work the crowd with the best. Ventura was a much better commentator than a ring presence. He was great at that. Much better than Hogan would have been. One thing that doesn't vary though is what people say about Bobby Heenan. Everyone says good things about him.
If Hogan is good enough for the Brain, he’s good enough for me. The Hogan hate turns me off. He made wrestling mainstream which helped everyone in the business. I know he’s flawed, but the jealousy is ugly.
The only legit reason to hate Hogan is the bigoted stuff he got busted saying. I forgave it but I can understand if other people don't. If you hate Hogan because he played politics EVERY wrestler did that.
I think Jesse's dislike of Hogan was the reason he left WCW in 94. Once Hogan joined Jesse couldn't put the beef aside and left. So yeah there was and probably still is, huge beef there.
It's possible. But Bischoff said he fired Jesse because they were about to start a Nitro or some other televised show and Jesse was supposed to be commentating on it. Jesse was nowhere to be found so Bischoff went to look for him. When Bischoff found him, Jesse was sleeping in the back and that pissed Bischoff so much because he thought Jesse didn't care about the job, so he got fired on the spot.
@@andrewvincent7299 Bischoff specifically said that it wasn't the only reason he fired Jesse. Bischoff has mentioned that if that was the only issue, he wouldn't have fired him. It was just the last straw.
Another great video Title Match! I wonder if this wrestling notion is true : that your great admirations come from your best enemies. I think Heenan has a point that Jesse Ventura had some jealousy because Hogan became the star Ventura felt he could have been and was worse that he had to be on the sidelines and watch. Also , The Ventura-Union-Hogan scandal burned the bridge completely.
Exactly! Vince went and fired all the wrestlers that were trying to convince everyone to form a union once Hogan spilled the beans. Vince admitted all of this during a deposition when Ventura successfully sued him in the 1990s. Paul Tagliabue, the former NFL Commissioner, met with Ventura in Vegas and told him that the wrestlers should form a union, which is where Ventura got the idea from.
Heenan was such a huge part of Hogan being so successful. These two are 2 of the best ever & they complimented each other making their counterpart look better. They made that era of pro wrestling so successful & paved the way for those that would follow. The Brain was the greatest heel manager ever!
@@dr.floridamanphd I'm a Minnesotan. The reason Jesse wasn't more popular is because Minnesota's a libtard state. Blue until the damn wheels fall off...
@@dr.floridamanphdTo be fair this was a state where the political elite turned Paul Wellstone’s funeral into a campaign rally and was the *only* state Reagan didn’t take in his ‘84 election, it’s solid blue. It’s actually bizarre Jesse even stood at a chance at getting in in the first place as a libertarian.
It's funny how you see people differently when you get older. As a kid watching wrestling, depending on your personal values, you cheer the good guys and hate the bad guys. The managers copped it worse because of the way they'd interfere in the matches, and you just want to see a fair match. Then you get older, understand wrestling is business, and now that it is mostly a work (kayfabe was strong when I was younger), and you begin to see the bad guys for what they are; an essential component to any match, because if there were not bad guys, who would you cheer for? The same can be said of any movie or TV show. I used to hate Major Burns and Major Winchester in MASH, because I was too young to understand their role and appreciate their characters' motivations. Once you can see past the surface, things become a lot clearer, and the lines between good and bad become very blurry, at least on TV.
Love this interview. Confirms exactly my opinion. Seems like everyone hates Hogan, but everything they say about him is vague and nonsensical. As Heenan says, and what I always suspected, it’s all jealousy. Hogan really gets a bad rap. Even to this day, most fans have been indoctrinated to believe he’s a terrible person. Look, let’s be clear, he’s no second coming of Christ! The racist remarks. Helping tank the unionization, like someone else pointed out here. The steroids. Some questionable behavior in his personal life. He’s a VERY flawed individual. But MOST of the criticisms you hear about him are born out of jealousy. He’s just not that bad. He actually helped get a lot of guys started, like Honky, and helped get a lot of guys over, like Bundy. He was a professional and a good guy. Perfect? No. Far, far, FAR from it. But not the monster many make him out to be.
Jesse could never be the star Hogan was but the genius of McMahon saw that Jesse could be a star as a broadcast commentator. I think Jesse was the greatest commentator ever, he was hilarious and his voice was perfection.
Hogan stooged off to Vince when Ventura wanted to form a wrestler's union. He wasn't jealous. He was angry and disappointed about being betrayed by Hogan.
I heard another wrestler say something that paints Johnny Valentine in a negative light. He filled a wrestlers inhaler with deodorant or some substance ready for when came back from his match. Can you imagine if he was having an asthma attack?
He's right. Neither of the Valiants are someone I'd have beers and talk the business. Kevin Sullivan? I was a mere padawan in the presence of a Master. Haku? Bob Orton? JJ Dillon? Sam Houston? All wonderful.
I'm glad I was able to watch a whole lot of Prime Time Wrestling on Peacock. Bobby really dominated that show. I had no idea that show existed before getting access to that WWE library. I didn't start watching wrestling until 1996 and Bobby was already in WCW by then.
I think it’s the opposite. I think Hulk Hogan thought about Jesse Ventura as Ventura gained success outside of wrestling. Ventura starred in better films, became Governor of Minnesota, and hosted his own television show. Jesse Ventura said “I cannot be friends with someone I don’t trust.” I fully agree with Ventura.
@@XjasondagX- That was out of surprise. Cornette uses too much shock value when he talks and tells stories. it’s kind of pathetic seeing a 62 year old man spaz out like he was ADHD, hold 25 year old grudges, and talk like an elementary school kid who just discovered what curse words are. I’m not even going to go into what I think about his followers.
If your to young to not know or seen Bobby Heenen announce and preform “like in his weasel costume” you need to watch some. He was an amazing speaker and would keep you entertained as an announcer in the WWF and WCW. RIP sir
I heard Ventura say, many years ago, that the wrestlers were trying to organize a union, and that Hogan told Vince McMahon about it and Vince squashed it. He said he considered Hogan a "friend" until this.
And if it hadn't been Hogan, somebody else would've done that with Vince in order to get a push from Vince. It's wrestling for Christ sakes. Cutthroat business. Jesse was delusional if he thought he could get the locker room to agree on anything.
Hogan also ruined then WWF wrestlers’ chance at becoming unionized by telling McMahon what the wrestlers wanted to do. Vince McMahon admitted what Hogan did while giving a deposition. That’s another reason why Ventura didn’t like Hogan.
@@Duck_Dodgers He already said "so what." We all love and respect Heenan, but Ventura had gripes beyond what Bobby's stating in this interview. Jesse has always come off as a fairly honest guy, and the reason I say "fairly," is because we all lie to some extent when something matters to us. That being said, Vince also tried to prevent Jesse from acting in films with Schwarzenegger, like "Predator." Vince was angry because he wanted a piece of that "Predator" pie. Still, I believe Bobby's an honest guy, and knew more about the business of pro wrestling than most ever will.
When he said Jesse wanted to be Superstar Billy Graham, it made me realize Jesse was dressing and acting kind of like Graham. I never thought about that before.
GREATEST wrestling talent ever! He could talk, he could bump and wrestle proven by his "Pretty Boy Heenan" run. He could get guys over, het heat, work commentary with the best of the best. Nobody else before or since like Bobby Heenan.
Heenan was at his best in "uncensored" and "UN-supervised" situations. He could have done stand up comedy and slayed audiences. his wit was that quick. No other manager came close.
WrestleMania III was a huge night for Heenan as well as for Hogan and Andre. I would to hear him talk about that night, as well as the weeks leading up to it, beginning with Jack Tunney's announcement that Andre's suspension had been lifted.
Just because a person is over in one place doesn't mean they could get over everywhere, I've seen plenty of wrestlers who were hot as hell here but couldn't draw flies there.
Anybody who thinks there is a better Manger in wrestling today needs to listen to Bobby talk for 5 min then they would understand he knows more than anybody in wrestling than most management.
It's funny how many guys bury Hogan, but at some point in their interview mention that they owe their careers to him, or that he picked them up when they were down.
Yeah his ego could be a bit much but ultimately I've heard enough people vouch for Hogan. Given his talent and success, honestly he easily could've been more arrogant and gotten away with it. Look at how Andre was a nasty bully to the guys "he didn't like".
Easily could have been hogan didn’t see brain as taking any spotlight from him and only able to put hogan over more. As for the other wrestlers well that doesn’t work for me brother.
@@Thisisstupid4life Hogan worked with thousands of wrestlers but magically your mind says it was all those who were threats - yeah the guys who didn't draw, sell as much merch or received the kind of ovations that had him scared. You marks twist everything negative to Hogan to the point of looking very broken mentally.
"Well actually Mr. Heenan, disregard your personal lived experience. While I may not have been there like you, I read on the internet that it was the World Famous Wrestling Union that lit the ire betwixt Jesse Ventura and Terry Bollea also known as Hulk Hogan! ☝️🤓"
Hogan and Vince were about 1 thing and 1 thing only. MONEY. If you couldnt draw it, you didnt work with/for them. Thats simple. People wanna crap on Hogan 30 years later.. but still doesnt change the fact that he was the biggest draw in wrestling.. but apprently NOBODY liked him growing up. Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. The math aint mathin.
Actually no, most wrestlers were cool with him, its the melter and cornette fans who twist everything negative. The wrestlers that do hate Hulk all unironcally have the worst reputations with the other wrestlers - Brett, Savage, Shawn, Warrior, etc.
Eat that Hogan haters! The Brain telling it like it is! Ya whine and ya cry about how Hogan screwed this guy and Hogan screwed that guy, as if you knew anything, and the vast majority of you don't. WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN THE BRAIN RUNS WILD ON YOU DROPPING IT LIKE IT'S HOT ALL OVER YOU?!
Hogan was a movie star first in Rocky! Jesse did state that Hogan ratted to Vince about a union, yes but I think Jesse was still Jealous of him, no doubt!
