Men are getting too emotional nowadays, thats not normal.whatever happened to logical thinking men we gotta get back to that. His first reaction to getting stopped by the police should not have been to shoot them
@@roscojayco5527 he had planned to kill them before he was pulled over. He had another rifle in the front seat to use as well. This was a murderer, not just a man with nothing left to lose.
@@roscojayco5527 “nowadays”? Almost every man used to wear a gun everywhere and all the time, and then gun fight in the street over the most trivial reasons, like a card game in a saloon.
@@merl-lv7dp the man, the cops, the wife, and the gov are all psychos. Some men would rather die than be enslaved in the plantation. "Give me liberty or give me death." The man picked death.
That car is not cover (aside from the engine) that rifle will rip right thru . Plus, you can't just sit there. The bad guy will close on you and kill you . He was screwed and out gunned .
My type of man 💯💯. Fact is this is propaganda. This man got tired of being enslaved by the system and decided to fight back. We are going to see more of this... you can mark my words on that.
Anybody that has shot both a handgun and a rifle should know that showing up to a rifle fight with a handgun is a mistake. It’s baffling to me why these cops would not stay behind their cover.
A police cruiser isn't not guaranteed cover from an ar15....and that's assuming he wasn't using armor perching green tip....or an ar15 chambered in a higher power cartridge than the standard 5.56/223......
Standing behind the patrol suv wouldn't have made any difference. The AR-15 blows holes in the human body the size of a grapefruit. It's as heavy as 10 boxes you would use to move with
@@James-xj3bl 🤦♂️ the AR-15 is typically chambered in .223 and makes teeny tiny holes. Get off CNN; you’re gonna embarrass yourself. PS, when you use a car for cover, you get behind the engine, not behind a door. No round will make it through 1-2 ft of steel.
Yeah. "Family court" translates to "Wring the men out of their money and toss them in jail". I got tossed into the "Bull pen" (Holding cells behind the courtroom) because I told a female judge that if she wanted to be called "Your honor", she should try behaving honorably.
Yeah, I do too, from all the stress and frivolous restraining orders, it pushed me to the very edge , but I never sought using guns to solve or end the problem. Your not alone dealing with the PTSD'S.
@@JamesWhite-mb8mg You're assuming everyone that is court ordered to pay child support has a job & pay taxes. That's not how it works your just making excuses for this pos for some reason.
@@james.telfer A rifle round can easily go through them but in this and many traffic stop situationss the best cover is your vehicle ironically, the best place to take cover is next to the engine block, depending on where you're positioned you want the round to lose as much energy as possible before getting to you, positioning is extremely vital here.
@@superdanyal2009 if you're at the rear of the vehicle, and nothing else is viable cover, remain there and work whatever angle you have over them. The officer obviously was in a terrible situation but his panicked movement and leaving cover was ultimately what cost him.
Yeah, my heart dropped when I saw that young officer zig right and away from cover. It is a small cancellation that one of their rounds would later kill the shooter, but at least their was that much justice in the situation.
Given the warning given of his erratic behavior and the fact he carried a handgun, why did the officers not conduct a high-risk stop (also called a felony stop) instead of walking up to the vehicle. I'm just as sad and heartbroken as anyone over the deaths of two officers as anyone, but speaking as a 21-year veteran, I'm shocked this occurred in 2023 after all the specialized training that's out there concerning circumstances like these. The agencies involved need to review their training, determine the lessons learned from this tragedy, and make sure that everyone learns from this.
" There is something wrong with this picture." Yeah, he was a deadbeat and considering he decided to end his life in a gun fight with police, he was clearly the problem in his marriage.
@@danielb7253 ...they don't train cops as they should. They just train them enough to hand them a gun and a badge to go out and write tickets (revenue) everyday. Basically stealing your money by showing you the badge... legal way of government to take your hard earned money.
So true,issuing a warrant, because some mooch ex spouse wants her " fair share".... everyone is becoming a criminal now days....the downside to big government...which includes the courts that begin in some incidences....tragedy of horrific magnitude.
Corrupt family courts at least. Theres probably still good ones that use right judgement. Some mothers and fathers dont deserve any custody bro. Some deserve 50/50. Its very individual per situation
Given the situation the caller communicated what he needed to avoid becoming a suspect. Without details he may have been at risk of being shot by police, it was a terrifying situation.
I think it was because of the line of sight to be able to see him, wasn't a good position to gain dominance in the gun fight behind the car. But you're right it was bad in the open.
The muskets sang in the American Revolution for far less unaccountable and unfair taxation than that man was suffering at the hands of the Divorce Court
Arresting and jailing for child support. Tax payers paying for his capture than we pay for his incarceration as child not getting any support. Who is gaining in this scenario
The courts literally get paid a percentage of the support. Instead of being wise and offering assistance to help a guy make more, they kill the golden goose. Everytime.
@@jonanderson5137 they don't get paid anything from what the actual ordered support is. The states are paid from our social security via title IV-D and they also keep the interest that they charge from arrears. And BTW everyone is automatically in arrears. Because due in full at the beginning of the month. If you "finance" it you're actually behind and they charge interest. But they get over 50 BILLION dollars per year from our social security to force fathers onto "child support."
@@jonanderson5137 nope. You said they get part of the ordered amount of paid child support. That is incorrect. The mother gets every dime of the support unless she uses TANF.... then they'll take just the amount they have her for that program.
I 100 percent can understand how this happened. I can't even work a job where I get a paycheck. I live in Indiana and they garnish 77% of my wages. I can't afford gas to go to, and from work, I can't afford food, I can't afford rent, I can't even afford a vehicle and insurance. The jails are disgusting and unsanitary and you go in there for owing child support, and they put you in a room with people charged with or convicted of murder and other violent offenses. If they think they're going to come with an arrest warrant or arrest me for contempt for child support, it'll be over my dead body before I go back to that county jail. Quit sending people in the dangerous situation just because they owe money. And then you won't be in this dangerous situation.
This should be the top comment. All the bootlicking on here is saddening. These people chose to get into this situation then chose to do it poorly. Hard for me to believe one of them was an actual veteran.
Before I read this, I was literally assessing what happened and why, and the conclusion I came to, is that people need to be more free! When the walls start caving people snap. And that snap would never happen, if authorities stop getting in everyone’s business. Not everything has to be a law. I’m fortunate to be in a good place. But I can sympathize with the man who snapped. Also feel dread for the family of the officers. It’s heartbreaking to see loss of life, it did NOT need to go there, if we as Americans were more free, the world would legitimately be a better place. We just need 3 simple umbrella laws to remain a functioning society. Don’t kill, don’t steal/fraud/scam and do not touch anyone who does not consent. The rest should left to the free people of America. We need community servants, not tyrants!
Yes it is but I guess you'd rather be in prison some ppl can't afford it. Some ppl are in hard times. Such a loser comment. Stop putting ppl in prison for some child support!
The illegitimate state doesn't care. They want to extort and punish the peons as much as they can because they're all a bunch of criminal tyrants anyway. Most of them are descendants of Stalin, Trotsky, Lenin, and the bolsheviks. When they get the chance they'll butcher millions just for fun.
@@yerxa420ca maybe this dude should have paid his child support instead of buy a 60k truck. but go off defending a skitzoid cop killer, you are a super brave person.
Totally man. Men should be allowed to never help pay for the child they bring into this world. The woman should be the sole provider for the kid. Men surely are the most oppressed people in the world😔
That's really not hard. Most officers ONLY do the yearly qualifications nothing more. Then they get to continue the test till they pass...3 times 4 times or whatever it takes.
@@dylonjackson8863 Sou do Brasil e gostaria de saber se policiais da América tem permissão para fazer abordagens mais agressivas e ter algum companheiro na viatura usando fuzil mais pesado tipo 7.62 mm. A maioria dos vídeos que vejo de abordagens na América os policiais chegam com tranquilidade na porta do passageiro. Seria medo da corregedoria?
The real crime here is the way our country treats fathers, anyone who has or knows someone who has dealt with child support cases knows that the man is automatically relegated to the status of criminals and treated as such for no reason other than that they are the biological male in the ending relationship. I have personally seen judges incarcerate a man to scare him into paying cause he was a week late man looses job as a result and has trouble getting new ones cause of legal problems then judge locks man up for up to a year then charged him again every time he missed paying while incarcerated, tell me how fair that is. Now considering the complete lack of fairness and justice these people get from your system why wouldn't they do the same, why cooperate when you know you're not going to be treated fairly as a human off gate!
*Family court is adversarial and fleeces the husband for, legal fees, child support & alimony.* Some men take their own lives, others turn to alcohol or drugs, some lash out in impotent rage at anybody that they see as involved in their unfair treatment.
Which is why, although I don't condone taking lives, I cannot feel any remorse or sadness toward the two police officers (even though they were just taking orders: a lot of atrocities have been committed at the hands of men "just following orders"). If anything, his greedy ex-wife is the one who should've lost her life.
What they fail to mention is that the state takes a percentage of that child support. So let’s forget that nonsense of supporting your child, the calculation they use is beyond ridiculous. It’s a very one sided system and I can see why men do not want to have kids or a relationship with women in the US.
@@Philosopheraptor Sure her children don't need a roof over their head or food in their bellies. 🤬 Man enough to make em', be man enough to support them!
@darkwingduck3477 Well duh...But you think this is the only run in these police have had with this guy. What do you want to bet it all comes out later that they have been fkn with him for months if not over a year. Back an animal into a corner and it WILL bite you.
"Messy divorce" Thats all you had to say. Dude lost everything and went nuts. Mens mental health doesn't get talked about enough. this probably could've been avoided if he got the help he needed
Knew 2 guys who were well off until divorce. One had to work as security guard, and the other as a soda vendor. Both seem miserable, rightfully so. Years ago I read a story about a wealthy business man whom lost almost everything after divorce. He ended up shooting the judge, which was insane!
Stop robbing people of everything they have! Nothing is more dangerous than someone with nothing to lose at all, easily the most dangerous person you can encounter.
@@TheAnnoyingBoss most likely this guy was already off his rocker, that's probably why she left him. He was unstable and could've harmed the whole family.
@@thisiconisactuallygoofysfa9960 Cops kill civilians in daily basis mostly are not wearing a gun and cops just empty multiple mags on an already dead civilian…
@Laonidas Spainhower depends where you get shot in the leg. The femoral arteries are the biggest arteries in the body. It can take less than 2 minutes to completely bleed out of one of them is severed.
Lord have mercy!!!!! I think child support is an issue when they go hard on these men. I know a woman behind $10,000 and has to pay $1000 a month which she still don’t pay,and she not wanted at all, my brother has to pay $1600 for 2 kids a month and is behind $2,000 and they’re already threatening to take his drivers license and jail time. Why are they so hard on these fathers????? RIP to these two officers it’s sad all the way around
@@gotoalex100 they’re so hard on these fathers that they feel like they literally can’t live anymore. It leads to stuff like this! My brother said he would be better off if he was dead and I tell him nooooo way!! Luckily he has his family to help him survive. It’s sad
Cuz once they drstroy fathers it's ez to control children cuz woman can't. God made us Men like that. Kids r naturally scared of their father. It's called fear of love
That guy was a POS but It's crazy how women have the option to abortion but if the dad don't want to be a dad he gets stuck paying child support robbing him of more than half of his pay check. If dad misses a payment he is labeled a coward but we women walk free. I don't agree with child support.
So, a vengeful ex-wife decides to stick it to her ex-husband, talks nine kinds of trash about him to the police, and two cops end up dead over it. I'd say she needs to be the one in prison....
@@claytonbrown7100 Giving your life to enforce The State's will in spite of all justice isn't bravery. "Just following orders" isn't bravery. This was a foreseeable tragedy brought about by a broken system that would throw a father in prison over a paltry sum. If you corner a starving dog, don't act surprised when you get bit.
Well- they won't need to worry about trying to get him to ever pay child support again.... Perhaps the issuance of a warrant on a monetary issue should be reconsidered. You can only push someone just so far before they feel as though they have nothing left to live for-so, nothing left to lose....
States like oregon won't allow it. They declared imprisonment over debt unconstitutional. Should be nationwide. And you shouldn't lose you gun rights over non payment.
You know it's bad when the system is continually corrupt and engaging in criminal activity but they expect everybody else to be law-abiding. Debtors prisons were outlawed in this country over 200 years ago but are corrupt bureaucracy continue to lock us up for debts.
He had a warrant for his arrest. That's why he was pulled over. He got that warrant not for being unable to make payments, but because he chose to ignore court orders to appear before a judge. I know this because I have been in that situation. The court will NOT put you in jail if you can't pay. You'll have to do some kind of community service and they will absolutely accommodate your job schedule. You don't go to jail if you're broke. You got to jail when you say you are above the law.
@@josephgarrett5693 the ex wife had to go before a judge to say she's not getting child support payments in order for a judge to issue a warrant to my knowledge. Yes it was his responsibility to pay child support or it could of been worked out between them two without a judge. Lives were lost because of some selfish individuals. He doesn't have to pay anymore money and now she gets no money, the kids and the officers including the father love ones are suffering from this tragedy smh
People need to read Marx instead of being wild and crazy. I get that this guy was a mental case but a little theory goes a long way. Instead of killing cops he could’ve been building something beautiful
That's one way to describe it.... another would be that many public officials violated their oaths and a man's rights in order to get money for their state through title IV-D funding, which comes from our social security.
@@jamesseeker1538 they were enforcing an outstanding warrant. That is precisely what their job is and what upholding their oath to execute that order. If you don’t like it, become a judge and create your own warrants or not based on your interpretation of the law.
@@jjww30 its not "my interpretation of the law" the law doesn't REQUIRE them to do this.... And their oath REQUIRES that they do it in a certain way if they do.. I'm certain that if you're not a lawyer I know more of how it operates than you do. You think cops are required to do this? Go look it up. Cops ARE NOT required..... The fact you don't know that but are claiming it to be true is disgusting.
It's not surprising that Perry reacted this way. What is surprising is that Judges, district attorneys, and ex-wives are still allowed to ruin a man's life through exorbitant and unreasonable child support orders, outrageous awards of alimony, and depriving him of his children with impunity. The ex-wife is lucky she didn't get wrecked in the process. This reaction is getting more and more popular. Look at the guy who whacked his whole family, including his mother-in-law, in Enoch Utah. Judges, prosecutors, and ex-wives need to be aware that this reaction is always an option when a man gets his life destroyed through divorce and child custody disputes. Don't write Perry off as merely unhinged. All divorced men think about this option. It's time for the judicial system to wake-up.
@@VioletWings1353 women destroy Men and don't gaf.the courts steal their kids and put them in the poor house then make them out to be the bad guy. A literal second clas cotizen to their own children.That's why men off themselves in record numbers.and thats WHY men snap....maybe you shouldn't talk about something you know NOTHING ABOUT
@@VioletWings1353 - I forgive you. Women can't possibly understand the male psyche; particularly when her objective is to destroy him. There is nothing so cruel and unempathetic as a woman
How would they pay for that “support “ And 10 out of 10 times the support would put him on a watch list and probably institutionalize him until he proves he’s “normal” which would incur him even more financial burden with no resolve
@@VioletWings1353 yeah but when something so detrimental to the social cohesion is yelling in your face saying "I'm not being treated equally under the law" is it time to listen or do you brush them off? Doesn't matter if you think they are crazy and unhinged right? You know brushing em off well just make things worse.... and when it's SO PREVALENT do you STILL just brush em off. Do some research. Check out title IV-D. Root cause right there.
*Michael Malice - “There is no law so obscene that the police would not be willing to enforce it, up to and including the mass execution of innocent children.”*
What this guy went through is something many separations are a bi product of. Knowing that everything you helped build with your partner that you said you would be with for the rest of your life is now abandon you and taking a vital resource to you, leaves you a broken man. That brokenness leads to this, the court system rewards the other person and punishes the other, typically the man. Using a child as a shield to justify the reasoning. What a tragedy on all sides.
Man-Judge I lost my job… court-that’s no excuse either find away to pay or prison. Man- So go to prison for bank robbery or child support? Court-you can be a dad in prison who paid or be a man in prison who didn’t pay don’t be selfish!
The POS was a domestic abuser, stalker, and had mental disorders. He made threats to kill people. He trained to kill law enforcement and spoke of delusions that Gov. Tony Evers owed him a $27 million grant to start a hydroponic vegetable business and overturn the ruling in his divorce. He expressed a desire to start a militia and assassinate police and religious leaders. His own family said he was "going off the deep end" and his family was in the process of getting him committed. He had violent tendencies and was exhibiting signs of schizophrenia.
Shouldnt even be a criminal matter, so many poor blokes end up in this situation. CS gives a means for former partners to control their ex's both male or female.
@@ChrisGilliamOffGridpaying for your child you never get to see because strangers who wear suits say you can't is like paying for a car you never get to drive. Does that make sense?
Exactly, divorce is usually favorable for the female. Instead of trying to arrest this guy they could have seized assets or garnished wages. Now 2 dead.
Wisconsin is ran by Germans. Their laws are insanely authoritarian. Other states like oregon will not imprison you over debt. They declared it unconstitutional unless it's due to fraud. Wisconsin is a police state and its a nasty state
@@tdr2101said exactly like someone who has no idea how to handle their own problems. How much crime do you think police actually foil in real time smooth brain?
Nah, he was a big baby. Didn't have the guts to opt out, so he thought he'd kill cops first. A schizo with bipolar has an arsenal & not only did he not pull out or get a vasectomy, he blamed cops for his genetics & income. He was a toddler having a meltdown, but of course, armed to the teeth because...'merica.
definitely evil when you train to kill policeman i dont care what he was charged with he broke the law if you dont like the law try to have it changed dont blame the police for doing their job and thats protecting peoples rights like you
@@tdr2101Police fired at him first. That man had every right to defend himself. The cops wouldn't have handled it any differently if they were in that situation.
@@carrasco2011sc well taking children from fathers and require child support and after taking everything a man has will throw him in jail all seems pretty evil
@@Spance-er You mean the ONES THAT ITS DESIGNED FOR SO THEY CAN SIT AT HOME COLLECTING FREE MONEY? More like a FREE RIDE to LAZY TOWN, ENTITLEMENT and a LAWFUL THEFT OF A MENS LABOR. You have A LOT to learn about REALITY and the system that enslaves you.
@@joshjohnston2986 you do understand that anybody can go through hardships. The government doesn’t help, you think hes got a better chance to get on his feet if they take his license away? Or what about if he can’t afford his bills because they take half his paycheck? It’s not like the government helps these fathers. Generally they are told they make too much because they don’t account for all the money getting taken out of there paycheck. You sound so uneducated on the topic. It’s so easy to snowball into homelessness if you have kids with a woman you are no longer with.
@@ohioprotectyourkids3739 he said and I'm paraphrasing 'if they (the mothers) can't afford to take care of the children, maybe the other parent (the fathers) should have custody.
My dad paid child support for 9 years while I lived with him and mom partied on the money, nothing wrong with carrying a pistol everyday, sounds like this man was backed into a corner by a greedy ex wife with the support of the state and had to fight for his rights, it’s truly sad what people are forced to do anymore, not sure if it’s the case here but sounds like it, their defense is he carries a pistol and has a shooting range, that’s bull
@@whocares893 I can’t justify it but can see why people feel that’s the only option, child supports a civil case, they had no business pulling him over for child support
Uhm Im pretty sure his mental health was also mentioned and he had a warrant out for his arrest. Mental instability and weapons on someone who is about to lose their freedom is absolutely a reason to be cautious. Anyone with a weapon that is about to be arrested should be handled with care in a job where even the unarmed fight back. There are tons of videos where police aren't "extra" cautious with when they find out there are weapons in the vehicle/on someone, but when the point is to arrest someone, that is a concern. Its not some big deal, its common sense precaution. The officer didn't have his weapon out at first and the female officer just asked for assistance in case worst case scenario happened, she wasn't alone. And THIS is exactly why they do that.
@@mechamahou8467 and how were they not innocent? they merely was just doing their job, do you wanna call the shooter innocent? i've read about his past and what he was doing that caused his divorce.
cars should not be used as hard cover bc bullets rip right through it, so he probably moved into the open bc the dude probably knew the officer would try to hide behind it and was shooting at the area on the car
Let's focus on getting guns off the street before we take them away from officers. In fact I'd say let's never take them away from officers because many things besides guns can still be deadly.
@titaniac30 Normally, I'm pro 2A, but seeing how many sociopaths in these comments are siding with the cop killer, I have to agree with you. These idiots need to be put on a list.
Those cops didn't have enough sense to stay in cover. Rifle vs. pistols is not a stand in the open situation. They learned the hard way. Being way overconfident got them put down. All over being 2 payments behind on child support.
Sou do Brasil e gostaria de saber se a polícia dos EUA não teria permissão para abordagens mais agressivas e ter companheiro de viatura com fuzil 7.62mm. Em todos os vídeos que vejo da América os policiais chegam com tranquilidade na porta do motorista. Isso parece suicídio.
What stands out here is this man was known to be extremely dangerous. When a young inexperienced officer asks for backup, she is sent another young inexperienced officer to back her up. Why? Why with a suspect who is known to be extremely dangerous, was only one officer sent to back her up. Last month there was a fender bender two blocks from my home and within 5 minutes there were 4 police cars on scene.
I mean they also did a poor job following their own high risk stop protocol. And well experience has little to nothing to do (as 90% of the officers will never get to use it since most of the stops are low to no risk), they should have never passed the training, the second guy kinda started following the protcol, but then he dropped it, went out of cover and stood in the open while firing and walking backwards, then he died, instead he should have stood behind the crusier and shot the dude from there, or when he left cover first he had clear shots, he should have taken them, instead he went out of cover and fired while walking backwards, why? i have no idea, maybe fear, clouded judgement? who knows, but his protocol dictates that he should have never left cover, he had a way better chance to survive from there.
