The 4 gang charger is an awesome marketing idea because it makes people go out and buy 2 more batteries because there are those annoying spaces that are always vacant. Then you have to buy more tools because you've invested in 4 batteries.
Im a technician of electronics, instrumentation/automation and control systems. I would have finished the extra year to attain my engineering class but ended up having a family and needed to get working. I sincerely enjoy your vids and information. I love doing the same type of breakdowns, except I normally do them to either repair or modify the tool/instrument! I dont have it in me to tare apart brand new expensive tools from my garage... i save that for when they start acting up! I can tell you’re quite intelligent and have a fairly in depth knowledge of a wide variety of subjects. I also enjoy the funny vocabulary. Keep it up! Thanks for the entertainment
@Howard Black All it does, is short circuits the motor with a switch which connects as soon as you release the trigger. That feature is common on just about any drill, regardless of price, brand, or quality.
I'm a foundry mechanic and in using this drill for the past 2 years and it's still running great even in the hardest conditions (really fine dust, drops from 2 meters and above stuff like that) my last drill was an dewalt 18v that thing lived for like 4 months than it died so I really like Hilti drills because they are just reliable and high quality tools it just works day in and day out and i take them to there limit but the Hilti doesn't seem to have a limit
The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten. Is actually from Benjamin Franklin.... either way love the saying!!
I used Hilti drills for years and they absolutely copped a bashing where I worked. They never missed a beat! Top drill and of course, premium price to go with it!
I had an 18V Hilti that came with my work van. I always had the latest and greatest name brand, but I was rough on tools. That Hilti just always worked, even after nosedives from a ten foot ladder. Great brand.
I was walking my dog yesterday and I saw my neighbor (I've never met him) opening a big Hilti cabinet and found out he is a sells rep or something for them. Anyway, the equipment seems flat out superior to anything, I just cant afford it (I do DIY stuff, it would be like deer hunting with an F16), but if I owned a construction company, it would probably be worth the cost
I dunno man. Depends on WHO is using your tool... you gonna give that punky kid you hired as a helper a $700 tool that he could easily just misplace without even thinking? Or that journeyman whatever with 20 years in the trade? Or are you going to use it yourself? It's a gamble to me
It's quite clear that the drill didn't need that piece. They'll probably steal AvE's idea of removing it, call it a new and improved version, then charge even more for it.
At 18:26, bottom right of the handle where the battery slides in, just in behind of the black plastic, there's a slot molded into the plastic, looks like it would fit there.
This particular steel plate goes in front of where the gang changer switch is (the one that switches between 1-2 and 3-4). It prevents the spring underneath the switch from dislocating.
3:47 ... "Likely this DeWilt, ugh, has got a slight weeble wobble at the bell end on account of the prestadigitory (sp?) malfeasance of muffin top and Clark Griswald"
My old man bought his first of many Hilti's back in 1990. I served my time with it as a kid working for him, and when he died 2 years ago, the TE72 he bought back then was, and still is, as solid as ever; it works perfectly every time and I have absolutely no doubt it'll still be going strong in another 30 years. It really has done the most incredible amount of work in its life time, too - it's an absolute MACHINE! I contacted Hilti when I inherited a lot of his kit, mainly because I broke another drill being stupid, and they happily transferred them all over to me, and have agreed to honour all of their servicing and repairs in my name! They will not charge me anymore that £70 UK for "any" repair. The are not only the muts nuts for the tools they make, but they're absolutely incredible for customer service too!
If you are spending 5x too much for a product, then yah, they'll have good customer support. Also, the fact that a drill is still running after a couple decades doesn't mean much. Totally anecdotal & you could say the same about the shittiest tool around.
We had hilti drills for our fleet (millwright). And we'd beat the piss out these things drilling stainless steel, dropping'em getting them wicked hot till you need stick weld gloves to hold them and dirty as all hell.Might have burned one out in my years but she'd be smoking while drilling a 1-1/4" hole through 3" stainless plate and it just wouldn't quit. wicked drill for sure.
as long as the brushes arent diarrhea hardness than in 90% or more of cases the drill will bite the dust or get lost/dropped/drowned long before you run out of brushes.. my angle grinders are the only thing i notice brush wear in and i lean on those with all of my 160lb gorilla frame... even so after 300-400 running hours on one still got just shy of half the brushleft.. not a constant rate spring though so shes gonna start shitting the bed and i cant find new brushes..
I work at a rental shop that stocks Hilti tools for all the 250 pound gorillas in town. Most tool companies observe a 90 day rental warranty, meaning the company I work for only gets 90 days warranty after they put it in service as a rental tool. Hilti still observes their regular warranty as long as we take it to a real service center when the red light comes on.... THAT is a real tool manufacturer!
Cool! I guess you have a lot of experience with the durability and quality of various brands in that case, so I was wondering about a couple of things -- which brands do you guys carry? Which are the most durable, and which ones do you have most trouble with?
We carry products from all sorts of major tool manufacturers. If youre talking electric power tools my favorites are definitely Hilti but Dewalt and Makita do the job fine. All of my cordless power tools in the shop are Dewalt because they are lighter and easy on the wrist for all day use, sometimes I grab a Hilti off the showroom floor when I need extra power.
Brian Holdren, there is other equipment that costs us a whole lot more and we get a lot less coverage. Hilti is definitely a top end brand that charges reapectively but some Fein tools and that other really expensive EU brand take the cake when it comes to how much they charge for a tool vs commercial warranty... We dont get one
Just switched over to this drill for my competitive robotics team after our dewalts started dropping like flies. Found out about it here!! It sure is a beauty tool, thank you for putting all this info out there. Keep up the great work!
Maybe should come with an emergency wrist- "smart" -lanyard so when it throws you over the fucking vice and into the garage door, it will call 911 for you. Great vid!
The better Hilti, Metabo, Bosch, etc modern models have electronic clutches. If the drill or grinder binds up the motor shuts off to avoid injuring your hands and arms, launching shit skyward, or cooking the magic smoke out of the motor and wiring from the current spike.
phelebas Hilt is have had that feature for a few years now...when I built elevators for a living all we would use was HILTI my partner and I actually had to go out and buy these practically bulletproof truck boxes so that no one would steal them..I mean when you're carrying oround like 10k in drills you become an overprotective mom......lol
Mate, FYI the leftover metal piece is a locating guide plate between the two clamshell moulds, just a little Easter egg for first time Lichtenstein explorers lol
Not allowed to bring brushed tools to a few refinery and gas plants here in Alberta. Brushes cause too many arcy sparkys not intrinsically safe enough.
It's actually a very good idea to isolate the battery terminal from the welded cells. When you hammer in that battery multiple times into the drill you're not transferring that hammer force to the welds via a rigid connection. This will weaken or even break the joints or the connecting tabs via work hardening. In this solution it just slides the terminal around and no harm done.
I have an old Hilti TE-17 from the 60's that my father bought back in the day. It's seen a hell of alot of work and still works like new. Awesome stuff
I am no tradesman by a long shot but I had to ask why the hell Makita would only offer 1port chargers. Felt like cheapo bullshit. I got asked by our tradie crew to please charge the Makita batteries after a fair bit of downtime and while they were out. About 20 batteries on 4 chargers. No fun.
once I used an Hilti electric hammer.. It penetrates concrete like a korean sailor in an Hamburg's brothel.. with no resistance and disappointingly fast
EtaCarinae230 hilti hammer drillers are freaking awesome . worked for two companies that would sign out a hilti and dang would it blow through concrete. and chooched on after many ape handed apprentices.
In my country hammer drills are called "Hilti", that gives you an idea how good they are. It was pretty weird to me back when i was younger and someone says "Oh, he spent XX months working in Germany and i brought home a Makita Hilti" but now I got used to it just like everybody else
Sima, I presume that you are not in the US of America, but even in Pennsyltucky, a "Rotary Hammer" is not called a "Rotary Hammer", just called a Hilti. Having used one at work from time to time, even being cordless, (typically one battery charged by the time one is spent) and literally being dragged knee deep in mud, I completely see why its reputation precedes itself. AVE just confirms it is a inside and out that it is a Skookum Choocher, and not just "Well I've been using it for years".
Heh, yeah. My cheapy hammer drill was making no dent on some 8" concrete I was trying to drill through. Rented a Hilti hammer drill, put it to the concrete and 15 seconds later I was through. I felt kind-of cheated at an effective rate of $9600 per hour but it was worth it.
I'd love to see test an all around strength test competition between Snapoff,Mackco,StanleMac, wrench ,,,must be 9/16 just cause..whos is harder better ect
I’ve used a LOT of Hilti tools. When it comes to big, gnarly tools like SDS Max or spline drive hammerdrills, demo hammers, metal cutting circular saws, core drills, big impacts, that sort of thing- they’re AWESOME. I think they’re essentially unrivaled in that department. Regular drill motors, small bandsaws, 1/2” or smaller impacts, angle grinders, etc.? I VASTLY prefer the 20V Dewalt and 18V Milwaukee tools. I’ve used Hilti tools of that ilk, and I have no doubt they’re certainly a far superior tool, but they’re way heavy, uncomfortable to use, and TOO perfect (the tighter tolerances make them easier to gaum up with dust, shavings, filth, slime, goo, grease, etc.) for regular construction use. In machine shops, clean environments like nukes, chemical plants, and so on, I may well change my tune, but in the shithole plants (coal powerhouses, steel mills, and such) and commercial facilities where I mostly work, the superiority of the Hilti tools is of no consequence since I can get more work done with their lesser competition. I sure do like fondling them, though...
I used a Hilti diamond core drill and it was HORRIBLE. I'd much rather use a Weka or something similar. Small drills? Seen Hilti ones fail spectacularly. They sure do have decent SDS max and concrete brakers though.
@@nikolairubinskii6450 The last core drill I used was a Weka, and it scared me to death. The first time it grabbed, it wrenched INSTANTLY out of my hands and twisted its cord off before it came to rest. I would've clutched a Hilti out against my opposite tricep til it came to rest. While the Weka seemed like a better tool (really nice build quality), it's a harder tool to use in that even my foot on the side handle didn't stand a chance, I'd HATE to use that (unusually heavy, by the way) tool in a manlift or straddling a beam or something. I'd probably treat it like a dry-core bit on a grinder; fasten some conduit or something to the tool and let it eat wedged against something. If it binds up, yank the cord, but with the Hiltis I've used, you don't have to do that, ever, because they have a good clutch.
I've been watching some of AvE's video for a while now but it wasn't until this video and the first 27 seconds that finally made me subscribe to this channel. I like the teardown videos alot and how he can identify alot of the electronics and mechanical items. He's got alot of knowledge schmoozing out of every which hole.....
you would need the Ingersoll Rand drills then. The rubber and plastic they use are made for greasy environment and can withstand those harsh grease cleaning solvents if you need to clean your tool.
I have a Fein with the same thing. I run the thing 10 hours a day and I much prefer it. You can put more pressure into the actual twist drill without the drill shaking and twisting.
I used this for structural iron working and I was recommended this one over the brushless second gen Hilti came out with recently. I was really skeptical since it’s brushed but I walk circles around the guys with the Milwaukee drilling 9/16 in holes into I beams all day long
i work as a blacksmith in denmark, and we almost exclusive use Hilti hand tools, and we have plenty of it, its nice to see someone gasm over them as much as i do.
Yep. Pancakes for breakfast (extra fluffy with Maple Grove Farms Sugar Free syrup). Fried egg. Slice of Prosciutto in the frying pan, with another slice of Capocollo to make it mo' betta. Some Wally World McCaffe grind in the Drip-Drip. Then its upstairs to the Confuser... and lo and behold it's AvE! And he's doing a HILTI-whatever! by Zeus! It's going to be a good day :-) ....WHOA,OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! ....I seriously kid you not...My wife just came in and asked me if I looked up some restaurant last night like I was supposed to, I told her I was busy at the moment (I was typing here), she gives me a kiss and says happy Anniversary! ......Whoops! Her Birthday was two days ago and I gave her a nice card and her favorite flowers.... (I forgot the anniversary card was still in the trunk). She seems OK at this moment. I'm gonna blame John Walker..... Dang, I'm dead serious again, phone call says Patio furniture to be delivered in 15 min. I can't let a delivery "interruptus" me from watching this. I'll be back in an hour.
Dillon Mech Nice. That's a great tool life. I still use corded drills in my shop some. I pilot with it and set with cordless. All my saws are corded... Well I got a Craftsman 19.2 volt cordless circular saw for xmas.... It struggles to cut a 2x10 so I never use it... Been using a Hitachi corded circular saw for about the past 15 years. It works good just looks like it has been blowed up by dynamite 3 to 4 times.
Hilti are true industry-quality tools. A friend was a Hilti sales rep in the UK and was very confident selling them. I used Hilti TE17 SDS hammer drills when I was installing stadium seating in the '80s and they drilled many thousands of 10mm bolt-holes in pre-cast concrete without isssue. Apart from the flex breaking internally just by the handle, mainly due to pulling on them. I wish I could afford them now.
"Hilti" has actually become a term for those large concrete breaking tools here in Norway, because the Hilti brand has always dominated that market here.
@@COZMICTOM Just because something is made in China doesn't necessarily mean it's low quality, it depends on the specifications and standards set by the client.
Hiltis nowadays seem to be low quality compared to back then. I can tell cuz the TE-16 rotary hammer is much more reliable than the bullshit they sell now.
That makes sense that they are industrial focused. I've never seen anyone with a Hilti, and then I started working at a steel mill and we were given Hilti drills and we have Hilti power tools. I can confirm anytime I've needed a drill the Hitli took care of the job.
I love my DeWalt range, the XR have never let me down working with heavy steel and punching that heavy steel into concrete the last 9 years. Would love to get Hilti someday almost every major lift company supply their engineers with Hilti.
You're an awesome dude! love the video! Kalamazoo Michigan Loves you! Used Hilti Drills, Hammer Drills and demo hammers at work. In an industrial situation nothing else compares. When you have a tool get the flue the salesman would come by leave a loaner so you have no down time while they take the sick puppy to nurse it back to health! Great company have no complaints. Now if the homeowner with the means buys these for home use, he will be handing these down for generations!
700 dollars for a brushed motor, plastic gearbox, sintered gears, and a charger that doesn't do concurrent charging despite them giving you 2 batteries. Meanwhile for the price one can obtain a Makita drill, a spare battery, and a charger that does both at once. And of course, with some money left over to buy something else. Like, I don't know. A whole another drill with its own battery. Feels like an iffy value proposition. I could forgive it if the 700 dollar pricetag came with all machined gears in an aluminium gearbox and enough torque to rival corded tools.
MonMalthias it's interesting how he jumped on the juicero for doing effectively the same thing, high price for a service contract/consumables. not sure why this is being treated differently. this drill has some nice features but ultimately it's the same ole same ole Chinese stuff in a nicer box. guess it's all excused because it's not for home users? I'd rather have 2, 3, 4 brushless drills for the price.
I'm pretty sure this is a sarcastic video, with the only legitimate point being at the end, whenever you would fancy a $700 drill that is painfully average with reliable warranty. Either that or AvE is experimenting and seeing how much bullshit he can feed his fans before they become sceptic about whenever it is true or not.
Honestly their cordless tools aren't that amazing but the AC powered heavy duty stuff is a whole other level. You couldn't cram more skookum inside the injection molded case without causing an explosion.
+34125867 it does seems a very out of character review in general.. hammering on the "feels good in the hand" stuff when i seem to recollect him mocking the "tools in action" guys for saying exactly the same thing. i do feel like the BS on this channel has been on the up lately.. that said it's still thousands of times better than most channels.
You guys clearly don't have the funds to justify purchasing hilti equipment. I started my career learning with this stuff, and everything i've bought for myself has fallen short of my expectations. No loss of torque when under load, never breaks, feels great in the hand, looks nice, rolls joints for me, brings me a beer.... it does it all. Couldn't get that out of a Milwaukee.
Thank you very much for this video, I watched it awhile ago and used it as a reference yesterxay when taking mine apart to clean after a bunch of masonry dust and crap in it. Lol lent it out big mistake haha. Keep the great videos coming, love the commentary!
I run hilti gear, it’s never let me down. I even dropped my impact driver 21ft from a roof peak and it only split the corner of the rubber on the battery. That was 6 years ago, I can’t imagine how many fixings it has put in since. Faultless
That’s literally the point of him doing these reviews, he doesn’t get them straight from the marketing department so he isn’t obliged to wank them off and tells you how it is.
Voided a few for a good video myself plus no good replacing factory problems with the same ones to just happen again so I like to fix em good and proper.
@AvE the rfid you took out is Hilti's way of increasing their efficiency. If you ever send it in for servicing. as the tool goes round their various benches the work log pops up on each techs screen before they even touch it. Hilti, apart from amazing quality is also second to none in repair and service on their stuff. they've repaired an sds max drill i've had since the 90's.
i just got one of these with a good battery at a pawn shop for $50. its a bit crusty but it still feels nice. Now i just have to find stolen batteries and a charger for sale
I looked at getting one of them 4 way chargers but the batteries do not take long to charge so i went with the single one. Great video. Thanks for sharing.
I've used this drill, simple fact is its too heavy. I let any other guy that wanted it have it and i took the milwakee or makita when checking out tools. Aside from the obvious every extra few ounces add up when holding a tool over your head 6 hours in a 8 hour shift. The heavy tools are bad in commercial construction applications as most tool death is caused by drop damage anyway not wear and tear. Not to mention slightly unrelated, their cordless wood saw is a gutless waste of good material. However their cordless impact wrench would snap bolts if your not careful. Their fastener tools cant be beat, but their general construction tools seem to be awful. just my 2 cents.
I'm glad you asked. 2 days on that job we needed to drill out 3/4" holes into 3/8" plate steel and lots of them. The steel was in small plates, it was a perfect torture test. We got the plates up on blocks at our feet to pin them down and leaned into the drills. The short of it is, when drilling 3/4 holes with rapidly dullling drill bits and cordless drills we didn't notice a difference. I'm almost sure it is in fact more powerful but would you really notice it, very unlikely. I just don't want guys spending so much hard earned money on a tool just to be so disappointed. This is what I know. Hilti cordless wood saw is useless and does lack power, no balls At all. their drill and impact are heavy and noting special. They are made in china now and other brands preform equally. However their cordless 1/2" driver is badass, their concrete/demo saws are amazing, their clipped powder charge guns cannot be beat. Basic rule of thumb is if its not almost 1000$ or more Hilti cant hold their value for money. I even remember AvE saying how Hilti could not compete with the Prosoomer market because their engineers could not make tools cheap enough.
brian jones Woaah thank you so much for that detailed response! For me I don't really mind how heavy a tool is as long as it can make it up, by getting the job done faster. Saw the disappointment coming, the only brushed drill left in the prosumer market. although in Australia it's less than 50 dollars more expensive than the Milwaukee Fuel hammer drill My first tool from Hilti is their BX-3 and I can confirm, nothing comes close when it comes to fastening systems!
Just bought one a few weeks back because of these video. I don't know every drill out there but it is best I have ever used by far, especially for metal work.
I think you refuse to be disappointed by this drill. I have a few new Hilti cordless stuff and think makita's cordless are much nicer. Hilti service is amazing though.
Today I realized that one of the only reasons I can appreciate fully the absolute treasure that is my grandpa's old machinist toolbox is your videos. Not this one so much, but so many. I shall get a premium T to celebate by. Rather, to celebrate you.
The difference between a cheap tool and an expensive tool , is the amount you can use it and the punishment it can take my dad bought a Metabo drill had it for decades and gave it to me it was built in West Germany and still goes today.
I bought one of these about 10 years + ago. On my second chuck and second battery. We use it for screws and mixing plaster, still going. Worth every penny. The hard case it comes in is still going as well.
That little stamped steel stiffener looks like it's supposed to fit cross-ways into the slot immediately behind the top screw behind the chuck. The curve of the steel matches the curve of the top.
TheTruthRocks it's a brace doo-hickie for the plastic. My radio controller came with it also. Keeps the drill handle from twisting when you grip it and apply torque.
I took apart my Metabo drill, their highest spec one and I took out the gears and everything to take a look. I'm certain the Hilti is similar from looking at the vid because when I took out the gears, they're all lined with needle bearings and don't use cheap-o bushings. Pretty incredible. Took me forever to put the gears back in though, that's for sure.
With the serialized batteries rather than parallel, I think that works better for the "I NEED THEM NOW" option. Why do you need 4 batteries all at once when you could have one in 1/4th the time?
a parallel charger isn't inherently slower though. Makita's DC18RD (double charger) charges just as fast as their standard DC18RC. And you can't run a fleet of tools with a charger that only charges one battery at a time.
Well I'd sy the main problem of this specific charger is that it is a "slow" charger ... thats why it is missing a fan. They sell them in hard boxes with fast charger that is capable of charging one battery at the time but still faster than this.
We just had a gang box with 15k woth of hilti delivered to a jobsite. Long gone are our days of defunkt and mondfunkee. Super happy with the sds and vac attachment. The bandsaw is a beast!
I still have my Hilti SF 144A 14.4 volt cordless set! paid $400 for it new 9 years ago. I have used it for everything from home projects to commercial job sites and it still works! I still use the same batteries they don't last quite as long as they use to but it has to be the best cordless set I have used yet.
Love your reviews , especially after the teardown of the tools . Can you do a Hilti Impact Drill 18V , i am very interested in adding that to my collection , but want to be safe with my choice .
