My local shop said it was $60 .... I said I think you mean pesos... and they were sure that it was in fact it was 60 usd.... so I got 60 pesos worth of rice and watchin youtube and having a beer...
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Really appreciate the advice without the bullshit. Your videos are clear and to the point but love the bit of idiot proofing/bashing as well. Keep up the good work sir!
Can the liner be re-heated and re-molded if I screwed up the first time, or say if it is for an adolescent, whose foot gets larger? Or is it a one-time thing? EDIT: Oh, I see you mention it. Thanks.
I’ve got a pair of 32s that have roughly 40 days of riding on them. Liner is heatmoldable, but I never did it when I purchased. Is it at all worth it to heat mold them now at this point in the game? Thanks man! Love the videos. Cheers.
Can't you just throw the boot liners into a basic household tumble dryer for 10-20 mins to heat them up for molding? It seems so easy and obvious... or am I missing something?
Hey I just ordered the Lo Fi‘s in Size 28.5. Before i had the Synapse from Salomon in 29, my left foot is 29cm long and my right 28.5 after a season riding it felt like i‘m swimming in them (both feet), thats why i ordered the Lo Fi‘s in 28.5. Now that they arrived my feet are falling asleep after wearing them for 20min. Are the Lo Fi‘s just cut smaller in General and i should still take the 29‘s or do you think i‘ll be fine with heatmolding and breaking them in? I don‘t want to get the 29‘s and then swim in them after 40 ride days again. Thank you! I really enjoy your videos!
If the boot doesn't really bother you anywhere right out of the box is it ok to not heat mold it and just let them break in over time? And if they start to bother you after a few days is it ok to heat mold them then?
Pretty sure it's some weird RU-vid compression issue because in FCPX the videos are fine and rendered fine, going to see if it's something with Compressor or if I need to tweak something with a limiter filter. It's been sucking a lot lately as videos are constantly having this issue and didn't used to.
Hair dryer method? High or low setting for how long u think? I did it on high for a few minutes but don't want to eff up the boot. Is heat molding going to produce a different result than just wearing them over time? Or just a faster way to break them in?
Been loving the tips on boots coming through, as even a novice like me can understand how critical they are. If I'm two days into a set of boots and feel like I've got a touch more heel lift than I'd like, is it worth/beneficial to get them heated again and chuck in a good footbed before I strap in and let it set? I'm thinking it'd help push my foot into the top of the boot a little better.
If you haven't gotten an aftermarket insole yet then yes, if you already have one and still have slight lift wait for our video on J Bars dropping later this week.
Hey man, really appreciate this series- I'm trying to get a perfect fit on my newer Step Ons, since I can't compensate with extra heel strap tightening anymore, and this all seems like it'll really help. I have one question for heat moulding + insoles: If one were to get a heat mould insole (Remind Remedy appears to be the only non-Superfeet sole in my size locally), would it be better to just heat mould them together, or one, then the other? And a couple other questions that I figured I'd ask in one place instead of commenting on several older videos: - What kind of foam sheet are you using? You describe it as 3M, but I can't seem to find 3M branded sheets that look like that. What kind of foam do you use and what thickness do you recommend, or where do you get yours from/would you be able to share a link? - I've got a high instep, and get pressure on that, along with some parts of calf & outsides of leg before my boot tightens enough to fully eliminate all heel lift- I think there's a touch of looseness on the shin, mostly right above the ankle. Following your instep video, you add foam to the shin just above the ankle. Is it best to start there, or go full tongue shim? Thanks for the videos, they're a real gem!
If you're going to mold the footbed and liner as one it's doable. I recommend doing them separately. Footbed first then the liner. www.tognar.com/ski-and-snowboard-boot-fitting-foam-10-x-10/ Depends on what you want from the outcome. From what you're saying though start there.
I tried to shop local in Alamosa but they didn’t have my size. Found a good deal from a shop online(close out Maysis). The wired sports guy said absolutely do not use a heatgun. Do you agree?
I got my foot measured and bought Burton Photon Step On boots. I've worn them 3 times so far and twice they were perfect. The last time I wore them I was getting severe heel lift. Would you recommend me getting jbars or would heat molding help me out?
So, I just realized I don’t have any rice and don’t feel like going to the store rn. If I don’t burn myself, is baking my inserts in the oven still a good option? It seems like the simplest process.
Ask yourself this, do you really want to eat food out of an oven you just cooked your liners in that will release toxic chemicals? Also if you have never cooked a liner before I really recommend against doing it.
Why it is not advised to use oven? What are the dangers? I tried it (90-100°C for 12 mins) and looked like it was working. To me it seem more appropriate than the rice method or the blower, because you can precisely control the temperature (with modern ovens of course). Thanks.
People bake headlights all the time. As far as chemicals go, read what’s in oven cleaner haha. That being said, for liners I personally prefer a nice sous vide followed by a broil in the oven to crisp them up.
Hey Angry! Is it true that heat molding redistributes material to the negative spaces? Does that mean that heat molding results in a different (better) fit than natural break in?
It doesn't really redistribute it, it just makes it more malleable which allows it to conform better to the bones in your foot as well as your foot shape. It definitely expedites the break in process.
Local shop told me not to heat mold until I ride with the new boots for at least a day. Is that correct? I was under the impression that I should heat mold them right away?!
I'm guessing they like huffing stank fumes. Their logic is more like well if they go ride it and they don't have an issue they won't come back and we don't have to do it.
@@AngrySnowboarder I actually didn’t buy from them so they’d have nothing to lose and only $20 to gain …. He stressed how important it was to ride at least for a day!??
Hello Angry! Thanks for great videos. I have just bought Vans Sequal Snowboard Boots 2020 (V3 Liner). Is it bad to heat mold right after first heat molding? In the first time I forgot to put on my insoles :-) After I realized I had been standing without insoles for almost 10 minutes, I did it correctly in second time. Heat molded according to the REI's instructions.
Will heat molding a second time re-expand de foam back to it's original size? I feel there is a bit too much lateral movement in the foot after the first try. Some guys from a shop said that each time you do it only gets smaller so don't know if I should try again to hopefully get it right. Thanks!
A lot of heel/toe areas are neoprene and I was wondering how that material reacts to heat molding. It is supposed to resist deformation, so should you use bigger toe caps if you want a more drastic result?
Neoprene tends to be a lot like memory foam in that it just goes back to normal after you use it. What you need to be aware of when heat molding is making sure that the ends of where it's attached to the liner mold perfectly as well as making sure that your insoles are in the liner when you enter the cool down phase. If your toes are still drastically hitting after the first mold, you might want to put a heel wedge into the boot to pull the foot back off the end. This can also help/hinder alignment to the natural J bars in the boot so be prepared that you might have to do some more work after this.
Hi, I gave a D wide foot and women's boots are apparently B wide. Can I get the insoles of women's boots to expand enough with heat molding for women's boots to be comfy?
@@AngrySnowboarder Oh man, not what I wanted to hear, ngl. The men's boots dig into my calves making them feel like they're going to cramp up. Thank you for the help, I guess it's about choosing the lesser evil when you have non-standart feet.
Austin or Jackson at MSO in Silverthorne, Leanne or Andy at Underground in Breck, or anyone that when asked "what's the best boot" responds with "the one that fits your foot and your needs".
Hey Angry, Just bought 2021 Burton Photon and have two days at the hill .. about 15 runs. Had them heat molded after day one, and they seem to fit fine except for one spot .... This liner has a pronounced heel hold pocket, and the the "L" shaped pad/form on the inside of my left ankle is digging in to a point where the pain is unbearable.... the pain point is just rearward and below the ankle bone ... I have a utility knife and heat gun in hand,... any advice before I turn the liner into Chop Suey? Was wondering if "localized" heat molding of the heel lock pads is advised? Thanks in advance from a Rad Dad feelin' a lot less Rad ...
Cut an L shaped slit into the J bar that's giving you a problem. Try the boot on again and see if that relieves the issue, if it doesn't cut another L shaped slip right next to the first one. Try the boot on again. If that doesn't work rip out the section of the foam between the slits. Cover with duct tape when done.
If I have ridden for 12~ days and really want to keep the most performance possible, is it smart to heat mold to avoid foot pain, or should I wait 8~ more days and let it break in naturally.
@@AngrySnowboarder Awesome, going to put insoles in today - super stoked. What is the main difference between Shred Soles and Remind? Thanks for getting back
apart from the stink (my boots smell citrus/tree tea oil) why should one not heat mold old boots? My liners have a poor season in them (cca. 25 days) and was wondering if it made any difference. I have a pair of Ride Fuse (Rawlings edition).
Can I still heat mold (whether diy at home or bring them into a ski shop) my boots if I’ve already ridden in them for a day? Roughly 7 hrs spent with them on. Burton Ruler Boas
@@AngrySnowboarder I heat molded my boots using the method in the REI video. On the right foot I did it right, but in the left food I accidentally forgot to remove the footbed/sole before putting the hot socks in there and the footbed was in the boot the whole time is was heating up. Do you think this caused any big issues? Thanks again.
I just got myself a pair of Salomon Hi-fi's, tried them, big toe bearly touching front of the boot when i really try to do it. The only thing that concern me is that my little toe feels a bit pressed to the side. I wore them for 15min in total so i cant really tell. Will you suggest me to do the heat molding or i can try them on snow first?
Angry Snowboarder thanks man, i guess i will give it a try first and than decide. It's not much really, but being brand new i guess they will mold with few runs. It's just that i need to wait for the snow 4 more months :)
Hey fella, what's your thoughts on getting (new) replacement liners for boots, when the shells are in A1 condition ? I've got a pair of boots with only 30 days on the hill, but the liners have compressed to shit !! Seems a shame/waste to throw them out.....
Hell yeah appreciate it man. Would it be the same for any convection oven? I'd rather just do it myself and have access to one. Got trust issues with this shop after they tried to hard sell me on a wide board and I wear size 8.5-9 boots haha.
Yeah as long as you have a convection oven you're good. Just make sure you place them in the center of the oven on a non stick tray, take the footbeds out, keep an eye on the foam as it will expand. Elevation and other factors can play a huge part in how it expands. Better to under cook it than over cook it.
Hey man. Looking to heat mold some Burton Ion Boas at a ski shop nearby. But I can't find the recommended temperature anywhere. Any tips? I think it has the Life liner.
@@AngrySnowboarder I think so, seemed to be one from Salomon. One of the hot air types where you put the entire liner inside. It’s a flagship store for ski boot fitting in my area.
When I put the boot on once it's heated, do I need to have the socks on that I'll be riding with or bare foot to get better precision of the contour of my foot. I feel like if I'm bare foot it will be more precise but when I put socks on, the boot will fit tighter. Also I don't have a shop near by so I'm doing my own measuring and buying my own boots online. When I measure my foot. Should I measure with socks off and get the size boot that my bare foot measures to? My bare foot is 28cm and the width is 101.6mm would a 28.5 boot with a 102mm width fit good?
@@AngrySnowboarder so are you saying mold the liner with socks on or measure my foot with socks on? And isn't the .5 on half a cm bigger? Wouldn't the molding process using toe caps make it fit? Thanks for the reply and help. As you can tell I'm kind of a noob lol
Is it worth it/possible to just buy new liners after a season or two? My boots are in pretty good shape but with a lot of days and the liners feel like they are just wearing out.
Will boot dryers impact the mould of heat mouldable boots? Im just asking as Im thinking of getting a boot dryer but really dont want to get one it if its going to destroy the mould of the boot when drying them out
Will heat molding tighten up a sloppy heel? I have a new pair of last season's 32 Jones boots and the heel cup is tight but theres a little bit of room on top for it to raise out of. I took a chance on them because they were on sale online and I really wanted them because they have the heel welts for crampons, but my old Ride Fuse boots were way tighter in the heel because of the boa and fit so well out of the box that I didn't need to heat mold them. So I'm wondering if I should mold my new ones or try to find someone to trade.
@@AngrySnowboarder I bought the boots, new board, new jacket and new pants. Ran me about $1450 so I'd say thats enough. Once they said they're charging me an extra $50 for the molding I pulled the receipt out of my pocket and returned everything but the boots. Not too mention I've been a customer since the early 2000's... REI method is just as good and will cost me $2.50. No more giving to greedy shops - theres a family owned shop 35 mins away and they'll be getting my business from now on.
@@sdineen557 Jesus they done fucked up. It takes a whopping 5 minutes to heat mold a boot and keep the customer happy. Fuck em, you did the right thing.